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Hello, Finally caught up on things, been busier than I expected.
On the surface it screams bs overall. Draco Lucky saying that Vedith is town for keeping promises really isn't a good enough reason. I can see why JM would think that's sketchy, odd that they think they're so sure because of it without at least some bg playing experience/meta with them but the issue I have is..JM said that Draco Lucky couldn't be trusted all the while voting for Rooster Fooster at the time..... (page 2) then What even is 75? The change of thought/flip/back tracking comes across as sketchy. Null on Jungle Medicine, tentative town-ish lean on Draco Lucky.
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Post #180 (isolation #2) » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:47 pm
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
I'm being critical of your earlier play, This last page or two feels better than before but I'm still not confident enough to place you either way yet.
Are we really going to do *this* right now? I came in really late to the game, made one post that wasn't cohesive and detailed enough (basically just stated) so It's easy for you and now JM to just jump on the wagon and vote me.
Are we really going to do *this* right now? I came in really late to the game, made one post that wasn't cohesive and detailed enough (basically just stated) so It's easy for you and now JM to just jump on the wagon and vote me.
Ok. Do you want us to unvote and give you more time to do stuff?
Yeah, you should because I'm actually town and it would be fucked up and unfair overall to go out like this considering.
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Post #213 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:30 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
rooster just goes Mia after that whole "I'm an idiot" thing but nothing much in their iso so far.
Also, something is just not feeling right about JM, they're posts are starting to read better but I don't know of it's genuine town. Could be them trying to "recover" from earlier.
I reread a few things this morning, I feel like they're leaning town right now (Icon), I
now
see the issue with the Rooster/draco thing earlier and how that in particular is scummy, despite their lack of actual anything in their iso (Rooster) I don't see anything scum motivated from them (icon) so far but that that depends on how Rooster would potentially flip, if town then I'd say that Icon is opportunistic scum based on 210.
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Post #294 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:16 pm
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
Yeah, I read it the wrong way - I get what you're saying now, currently Starwings is in that weird placement of between middle/nai.
Also, can you answer this, why'd you vote Icon earlier? You asked me what I thought of their slot and I'm struggling placing them out of being in the middle.
Also, can you answer this, why'd you vote Icon earlier? You asked me what I thought of their slot and I'm struggling placing them out of being in the middle.
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Post #386 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:59 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
Jungle, which scum games of icons did you read specifically and what prompted you to recently decide to end your proposed scavenger hunt for reasonings on your basis for voting them earlier?
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Post #397 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:58 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
Agreed, that's why if you're going to use meta as a basis for your reasoning please link to specific games so I don't have to blindly sift through games hoping to see what you're talking about.
And Jungle, Can you answer my question please?, which specific games of Icon's did you look at? .
In post 397, GeminiTwin12 wrote:Agreed, that's why if you're going to use meta as a basis for your reasoning please link to specific games so I don't have to blindly sift through games hoping to see what you're talking about.
And Jungle, Can you answer my question please?, which specific games of Icon's did you look at? .
no your laziness isn't an excuse to scumread me or to say i'm wrong, if you don't have the energy to look for yourself you can ignore the meta stuff & evaluate the non-meta stuff, do you disagree with that part of my analysis?
It's the case that YOU are making to US. You need to be clear if you want people to see where you are coming from. It's more than 2 pages of games there, I'm not wasting the little time that I do have to try and see what you're saying, you know you're point, or you're supposed to, you know the games you've looked at so you should be able to link them but you're saying I'm lazy? it's a simple question that requires a simple response. I'd gladly read a wallpoint of a an argument especially if it's meta based with linked references. I asked for game references to see if I can get a feel for is you're pulling this out of no where or if you're actually serious about your claim against them, for motivational purposes.
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Post #463 (isolation #23) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:12 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
In post 453, Jungle Medicine wrote:hey gemini do you agree or disagree with the non-meta parts of my analysis on icon?
You’re basically saying that Icon’s vote on rooster is reactionary due to the fact Rooster voted for you, the other person he scum reads. And the reads are hollow without real follow up from either of them? And Icon maybe trying to get a feel for whether you're lynchable? It’s possible yeah depending but I’m not getting a strong response of: ‘Oh yeah, that’s definitely what’s going on”
In post 412, Jungle Medicine wrote:what the fuck am i supposed to do to prove i'm town? i'm one of the most active players in the game, i've been putting out more analysis about the game than anyone else in the game except hydras who i can't compete with because it's two fucking players in one, and i'm still scum? how the fuck do you come to this conclusion RC?
This could be legit frustration, but I could also see it as scum who feels like they're being scum read for the wrong reasons. Except I don't really think scum!JM would have cause to feel like he's being scum read for bad reasons in this case?
-U2
Yeah, I could see that, getting
some
vibes of that. Could really be an overconfident townie.
In post 484, Jungle Medicine wrote:i'm not an academic or lawyer brass & i'm especially not one of those things when i play mafia so no i'm not going to cite evidence for everything i say.
and why are you still ignoring all the non-meta analysis?
For future reference, can you at least try to jot down game numbers, something. Makes it easier on everyone and it also keeps people from critically questioning your argument.
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Post #569 (isolation #29) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:08 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
In post 565, StarwingBeauvoi wrote:I townread Roster based on an isolated interaction when i really hadn't taken in much of the game as a whole. Perspective naturally gives new views.
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Post #618 (isolation #31) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:44 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
In post 571, Merry and Pippin wrote:I'm good for a policy lynch on Draco
If they're mafia great if not they're not going to help town anyway
Merry obviously
Same applies to Vedith and Rooster if you're talking policy.
In post 598, Jungle Medicine wrote:i don't see how you come to those reasonable conclusions about me while calling my push on icon 'awful,' there's some type of disconnect going on that isn't sitting well with me.
You can be town with bad reasoning meaning it doesn't directly stem from scummy intentions.
I don't necessarily have a top scumread, just some potential scum.
Vedith - Lack of anything from them. The lack of caring whether they'll be mislynched in 559. I'm going back and forth over the thought of "
if they're scum, shouldn't they be putting in more effort than this?"
also the way they voted Icon. out the blue with no followup reasons (No reasons for hardly anything)
Starwing - the lack of stance from their (star) postings is irking me and the fact that their wagon had some votes earlier has me questioning if they're actually town and if scum (Who voted there) trying to go for the "easy lynch".
The lack of anything more from Brass's slot, (who's now asked for a replacement.)
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Post #735 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:06 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
In post 728, rosterfoster wrote:Vedith, please be more forthcoming. At some point it’s going to annoy me into mislynching you.
Then you say this:
In post 733, rosterfoster wrote:Yeah but Scum kind of wants to appear like they don’t understand it, like trying to semi-town slip. That’s more what I mean I think
Your whole style of play IMO is to provoke people into attacking you and get reactions (though this doesn’t work with people who know you better). Problem is I’ve hard-tunnelled town-you twice for exactly this and been wrong both times, so I think you’re town .
If you're "aware" that this is their playstyle (In your opinion), and you believe they're town, why would you mislynch them?
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Post #831 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:56 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
Nope. Not giving any reads. Town is about to lose two townies, one of which could have been of some use. After this it should be obvious who it is, you all figure it out.
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Post #851 (isolation #58) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:26 am
Postby GeminiTwin12 »
Star and Draco lucky (I'd be a bit annoyed if it turns out that both hydras are actually scum) I'm currently rereading things for.
So are yours, especially for the fact that I'm there from my POV.
I refused to give reasons because I was pissed off (Wasn't fair in hindsight, I'll admit) for not paying close enough attention to the fact that I didn't see what was going on until it was too late and for that fact that in that scenario, with the votes and how it transpired it didn't make sense for me to be scum and I thought I was basically dead after that.