Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

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8 ball

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Just vote 8 ball please

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Why does it take 9 votes for the 8 ball?

It should take 8 votes

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Wait I'm pretty sure nancefloor just scumslipped

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Voting 8 ball, prevents scum from having info. That’s the point.

How would she know whether scum would have info or not if she wasn't scum

VOTE: NANCEFLOOR

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Or

Alternatively

We can lynch you, since you scumslipped

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Hi!

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Is it that me/nancefloor is SvS?

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can we not

i'm just having fun.

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just ignore the 8ball and lynch scum

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oh my god okapoka you can't just ask someone why they're not rvsing

VOTE: okapoka

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I wonder if we can get NSG to replace in

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VOTE: creature

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thank you clemency

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taly is probably not scum btw

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VOTE: okapoka

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its ok nancy is mad at me too

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eww yourself

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why are you encouraging him to vote me

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i feel like there's a really obvious answer there and that you don't really need to ask that question?

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i can be your megatryhard baby~

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no

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Shoshin how are you doing?

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UNVOTE:

I have pretty strong town reads in Taly and Oka rnow

- Dann

why oka?

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i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

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I'm not pushing you. don't give me shit for pushing you until I'm pushing you. If you're town I'll figure it out, let me do my thing until then.

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i will not be pushing on you regardless of my read on you until some indeterminate point in the future.

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@Fakegod what are your thoughts on the quality of mbaki's reads?

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why is clem probably town

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don't agree that his minimal posting here differs from my last scum game with him in any meaningful way.

given that he was townread despite doing nothing that game because he outcharismaed most of the playerlist that's a pretty shitty way to read him.

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Shoshin I'm lost without you come back

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what relevance does that have to what i said?

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why are you already defending yourself when i haven't called you scum

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lewd

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NO PLS

give her time

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PLS

has she even picked up her role PM?

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Do we learn who the 8ball was after the day?

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Do we learn who the 8ball was after the day?

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kittybells

... im having trouble here



level with me and be my

shoshin

?

Who will be MY Shoshin

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Conf can you change avatars pls ty

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VOTE: confbias

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i think that you guys are scum. how do you feel about that?

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Yes I brought that up last game

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lightly townreading bef

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Did Shoshin ever pick up her role PM

Are we allowed to know that

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That's not what I asked

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also, heyyyyy

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Will the real town please stand up?

hi i'm town so you should start calling me scum

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ank has done nothing to leave her scum range.

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VOTE: Confirmation Bias

I very openly, multiple times, told Flavor Leaf that I didn't want to play with them again. They completely ruin games for me. I'm not allowed to request that they replace out but I'd like to request that we policy lynch them right now.

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They entered the game on a secret alt to avoid me being able to have them WOTMed. I don't want to play with them. Please vote them.

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VOTE: Confirmation Bias

I very openly, multiple times, told Flavor Leaf that I didn't want to play with them again. They completely ruin games for me. I'm not allowed to request that they replace out but I'd like to request that we policy lynch them right now.

Nancefloor vote confirmation bias with me.

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taly if you're my friend you'll vote flavor leaf.

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Nancefloor vote CB

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I’m someone who can out town leader him.

you tactically replaced out like a bitch because you couldn't get me mislynched and completely ruined a newbie game for everyone
off of me supposedly 'setting you up as a mislynch' when i repeatedly, repeatedly said that I wasn't scumreading you and had told you to unvote yourself

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and that game was after i told you to leave me alone. you're still replacing into this game. if you didn't think you were doing something wrong you wouldn't have hidden your hydra heads.

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mbaki you are fully aware that i have made my feelings towards flavor leaf super clear yet he has chosen to join this game anyway. and there was an even worse game that happened after the one you were present for.

this isn't okay and if you're not going to vote him at least back up to the mod that i have made my feelings on him super clear

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contacting listmods

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nancefloor vote him.

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the fact that i scumread confbias is entirely unrelated to this push and i want it to be clear in this instance that we're lynching them because they won't leave me alone as opposed to because of their alignment.

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there's an objective right and wrong here and when you choose to not be in the middle you're not making the right choice.

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someone is harassing me by following me into games and you're mad at me for expecting you to take my side on it?

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i've contacted both the game mod and the backup game mod so hopefully they intervene but i'm not accepting having to play with FL as an answer.

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i'm objectively better than you as both alignments.

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why are we discussing this

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i'm not playing the game with FL.

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how would you guys feel if you had repeatedly asked someone to leave you alone and they insisted on joining your games and using secret alts to evade being wotmed?

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i'm sitting the game out until BNL makes up their mind.

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FL needs to stop following me into games?

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that's level 0 thinking oka

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step 1: voting confbias

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yes

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take a look at our last newbie game (which happened

after

i told him to leave me alone btw) where he completely derailed the game and caused numerous replace outs tunneling me because i was supposedly setting him up for a mislynch when in actuality i had prevented him from being wagoned multiple times

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so what you think chennis is trying to bait the lynch as the 8ball and spew dannflor town going down?

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Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.

from this post

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no

we were both town.

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and he did a whole bunch of crying about how he couldn't handle being lynched by me and openly tactically replaced out (he said he did so at the time) because he couldn't actually mislynch me.
i'm done with whatever problem he has with me, he clearly has convinced himself that he has something to prove over me and its not conducive to either myself or other players enjoying games with both of us in them.

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no we shouldn't. you should just respect my wishes and leave me alone. you've deluded yourself that we have this special relationship when i just want nothing further to do with you. it's creepy, it makes me uncomfortable, and it makes for terrible games.

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note that i'm asking to sort you moreso than him. i'm reasonably sure that chennis is town here.

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i think you're all being really shitty people by siding against me when someone who i've repeatedly asked to leave me alone and who continues to follow me into games, even hiding their identity so i couldn't wotc them.

just because i'm the one inconveniencing you doesn't mean that i'm not the victim. get out of your own fucking headspaces and think how you would feel if you were in my positions.

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i think you're all being really shitty people by siding against me when someone who i've repeatedly asked to leave me alone and who continues to follow me into games, even hiding their identity so i couldn't wotc them.

just because i'm the one inconveniencing you doesn't mean that i'm not the victim. get out of your own fucking headspaces and think how you would feel if you were in my positions.

Can you actually stop

no. i should have a right to not have people making secret alts to follow me around into games after repeatedly telling them to leave me alone.

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we both know that wasnt their intention, they havent done anything to you this game so you have no reason to care and either do I.

so if someone was stalking you or one of your friends but they weren't actually doing anything you'd say "oh they havent actually done anything"
and no the chances that they just randomly happened to secret alt to evade my blacklist are astronomical. and if it's true they should do the decent thing and leave.

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how will you feel if I act horribly towards you all game and then when you justifiedly blacklist me I follow you into new games and ruin those games for you too?

news flash: flavor leaf is going to end up being his usual self. he's a scumbag who lied about a new job to justify tactically replacing out of a scum game he was going to lose because he wasn't going to have time then joined 4 more games. he's not going to be a good boy all game and I don't want to have to sit here not enjoying myself at all waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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what i don't understand is BNL's failure to have acted already. i think this situation is really cut and dried. i suspect flavor leaf sent him a bunch of manipulative pms framing himself as the victim.

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i have contacted multiple list mods and the game mods.

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the list mods basically said it wasn't their problem as site mods to policy users not wanting to play with other players. so they pawned it off to BNL. who, well, hasn't done much.

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cant one party rep out?

it does seem like the correct solution to this situation for the party that hid in a secret alt to avoid being wotced from the game to replace out.

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or for the mod to enforce such.

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wow i sure did know that the secret hydra contained people that i had blacklisted.

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ok. i'm going to take a break and come back when i'm ready to play the game.

UNVOTE:

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i can't not be toxic in the game if FL is in the game and i don't want to be toxic.

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I just realized I have eight townreads

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oh hi cerb

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ok nancefloor ima tell this to you straight

ur basically guiltied scum

but if you let me leash your vote i will spare your life and lynch you last

how does that sound

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time devil is locktown to me.

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{RC}
{TD, Chennis, Taly}
{Okapoka}
{MBaki, BEF, Shadowless}

other people

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i'll townread you if you agree to sheep me today unconditionally and tomorrow as well if i hit scum today

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idk

i actually haven't looked for scum at all

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i'm not actually scumreading you

i'm not even trying to read you right now

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I'm not trolling you. I wanted to see how you'd react.

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VOTE: tmck

oh yeah i totally forgot about that.

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shoshin repping out of this game is probably more scum indicative than anything else that's happened.

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pretty sure?

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can you explain why you're scumreading shadow?

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As for the discussion of the 8ball, isnt it actually protown to pop it this early? Unless scum can correctly guess who everyone is scumreading and would lynch, rn is the best chance to get the lynch+no kill from it as theres the highest number of people alive as there will ever be.

i don't think it's especially likely that scum told him to fake this dumbtell or that he missed it entirely as scum so i think he's more likely to be town here

maybe I'm overthinking it?

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even aside from that though there's nothing that he's done that justifies anyone being confident in a read there and i'd rather hit someone who i have a better read on

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why? his entrance is pretty abysmal

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who is we?

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bad vote.

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btw I was serious when I said that we should lynch shoshin's slot.

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she was absent but she returned to site immediately before her slot was replaced and chose not to post in the game. i feel like she would have had at least a townlean on me. I think she's more likely scum that didn't want to play vs me

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tmck's posting so far is terrible?

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mafia is hard

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games for me are either mafia is hard or mafia is loleasy

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sorry dannflor

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for FOTM

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fire on the mountain lol

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I'm happy to deal with either of you!

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ank you are really really underwhelming this game.

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what if you

don't be underwhelming this early game

for me <3

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explain your townreads please

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"standard tell"?

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what's a form read

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sometimes i wonder if i'm the way i am about mafia b/c there's not much else in my life that gives me validation rn.

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lol i remember those

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ank if i told you i loved you would it make me more or less likely to be scum

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i didn't say that i did

i asked her what it would indicate about my alignment

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as soon as we flip 1 scum we're using the 1 of 4 thing then we end the game with 2 consecutive attempts at coalition

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i didn't even consider doubling up on the 1 of 4

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can I have a PT for this game please BNL

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i think this is the first time i've requested a pt as town as opposed to an attempt to spew myself not scum but proper ability usage is really unclear to me rn

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i like sardines

VOTE: fuscosco

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i'll effort soon, i'm not feeling great about mafia rn.

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I don't think that BEFs 8 ball fixation is scummy and I would actually put it as a lot harder to fake than some of the other game entrances. Not sure why that's the wagon

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hunh?

ank is town
mbuki is town
tmnt is town
taly = town
and various others in my iso

Why is tmck town

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I'm not sure if I hallucinated a tmck post overexplaining a fuscoscos townread or if I'm misattributing it

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Chemist creature not getting lynched today

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JE neither

Whose left

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Tiers not currently relevant
Also not lynching Ankamius today but thats not the same as town reading her

RC
{TD, Chennis, Taly}
{Okapoka}
{MBaki, BEF, Shadowless}
{Creature chemist Ankamius JE

So

Clemency
Nancefloor
Tmck
Fusco
And some other player

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Overkill

I had some reason to not want to lynch them I think

Clem MF tmck fusco

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Clem tmck Fusco could easily be 3

I'll check nance

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I'm really confused why I was scumreading NF in retrospect I don't think that slot is ever scum

I'm still wrong on at least one of my lower tier townreads / not lynch right now reads though

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If we kill 2 scum quickly we can autowin with double 1 of 4s btw

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So who am I actually sure is town

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RC
NF
Chennis
Taly
Time Devil

shouldn't have any scum

I guess I should.double check TD since nf was town

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ehh

I still don't think they're scum but I'm not going to call them clear

Hey creature go do a clear thing pls

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It's probably going to be a while before I can put together a real case. Nancefloir shouldn't be the lynch because I'm not 100% about it not being playstyle. The sea come from their almost exclusively AtE reasoning, a couple of weird almost slippy posts that I think I've shared a few of and the fact that all their srs are omgus. Bef sounds so increadibly stilted and unnatural. Mbaki... I had a reason but I'll have to remember what tired me was looking at. I think some obvious towns are taly, chenn, and oka. And again, I dont know who shadow less cloud is

This post could be town

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Idr want to try to sort Clemency at this stage so I guess my vote is in a good place

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Fuscos iso is really really terrible

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aaaaaa

I'm scared

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I have no idea and I have no idea

I will try to unpack this question

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Or I could go to sleep

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Pls don't vote anyone past L2 while I'm gone

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Confirming my townread on taly and that I'm reading his posts
Ditto chenn

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I believe I have 2 scum

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Both of them are Ankamius btw

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Maybe

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Jk only one of them is not Ankamius

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Neither of them is Ankamius

maybe

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It's nice to have people posting enough that I get to play single player mafia which is the best kind of mafia

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Both of them are maybe not not Ankamius

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Wow I am rly tired rn

/Me yawns

This seems like the perfect time to go to bed

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I'll give u a hint it is not

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I'm not townreading you but I'm giving you the space that you demand

If I'm still not townreading you I'll kill you at some point but I'm in no rush

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Do it for me <3

It doesn't have to be today or even this week

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I think we 1/4 into killing 2 of 4 if the pool is hard at 3
Coalition at 2 and use other means to scumhunt if it fails
1 of 4 the last one if coalition failed

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Actually there's 2 lines of play

Hard playing for the coalition victory or doing what I suggested above

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Basically we just really want to hit scum today

UNVOTE: for now

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dw I got this

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His lists are more like guidelines than actual rules

Also please stop voting BEF

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I wanted sardines

I'll be back later tonight

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And then fuscos was a zombie?

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Yes kitten

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me?

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Casing is a lot of work

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You have low inner quality.

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Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is town

Based on form taly chenn oka

I dont think it's the qualities of your reads that make you towny, it's your cluelessness and actual genuineness. Basically what nancefloor was saying about BEF but, you know, actually true. The reason Chenn us town is because they're actually trying and the only other game I had with them they didnt, and the pt showed they weren't just lurking because of irl stuff. Do you think shadow disappearing is AI?

And oka is driving town towards a lynch instead of letting them flounder

Spoiler: tmnt thinks oka is suddenly scum

Oka, why do you want shadow so much?

oka is town because theyre pushing their scumreeeeeads
and they arent pushing any one agenda.


do you think oka is fishing for a low hanger?

shadowless is the very definition of low hanging

I'm worried about this too. I liked the push, but I'm getting vibes because its hardcore shadow all the time and I didnt like okay response

And I kind of get this same impression of his read on me, tbh.

I really hated his post calling BEF, “obvscum”. That really pinged me, because I both me and Dann read his posts as genuine and he called them “fake”.

Fusco is scum

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I'm not voting yet b/c I have some big stuff to post that I need computer for

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Nancefloor is town

Titus is town.

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Why am I scum and why is taly scum mbaki?

The other two are fine ish

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I can't tell you the answer to that question because it might help you read me in future games

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Post #1685

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T

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I think I was in 1684 as well

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Actually me and Titus are masons.

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How much do you want to bet

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I actively unlearned proper grammar and simplified my vocabulary to be more appealing in forum mafia.

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I actively unlearned proper grammar and simplified my vocabulary to be more appealing in forum mafia.

I did it to rebel against academia

why is tmck town again

- Floor

Tmck is not a townread there's just better lynches

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If I don't find time to do this I'll vote tmck

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If tmck is town and fusco is scum I'm powerlynching mbaki

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btw fusco mbaki is SvS most of the time and that's the reason I don't want to lynch tmck today.

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I wanted to wait for a case but

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he's tonally far more similar to his scum game and his woe with me approach to the game and whining about lynchbait makes sense as scum who needs an excuse for pushing mislynches

I'm not scum, taly isn't scum, I don't think TMCK is scum, so that really just leaves overkill to be scum on that list and that's a really weak slot regardless of alignment

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It's also notable that at the point where I started doing recognizably town stuff is the part where he started scumreading me

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the mbaki lynch list is terrible though

What's terrible about it? What names should be on the list that aren't?

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OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Well, i feel like theres def some elitism and generally bad implications about this list i could infer. Like am I off this list because Im your likely choice for an 8ball?


This list is good. It gives us a good way to judge your future actions.

Interactions like this feel super SvS and notably the two biggest people pushing against the general townreads of the game are Fusco and Mbaki in a lobby + mbakis weird morale issues where as town I feel like the game is already a town win like 90% of the time

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Most people meta me wrongly even after they've seen me as both alignments at least twice each.

Nothing specifically AI yet.

Trying to disrupt townreads on towny players is always AI

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I'm a lot more sure on Fusco / mbaki than on tmck and I don't want to lose the ability to lead on either of them if tmck flips town

I'll full case it when I get home

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How is that rolefishing