Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: 8 ball

[NanceFloor]

Just vote 8 ball please

You gotta give me more than that.

It’s the mechanically correct play, just don’t ask me to explain it.

~Nancy head

[NanceFloor]

Just vote 8 ball please

+1

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler:

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: 8-ball

actually, i kind of favor info lynches here


ranked sounds good

Same thing as last time?

che?

Voting 8 ball, prevents scum from having info. That’s the point.

[NanceFloor]

@Creature, @Fuscosco, come join us on 8 ball.

[NanceFloor]

2 more, please.

[NanceFloor]

The faster we hammer 8 ball, the better.

[NanceFloor]

Why does it take 9 votes for the 8 ball?

It should take 8 votes

Meh, 8 ball is loved, it should only require 7.

[NanceFloor]

Wait I'm pretty sure nancefloor just scumslipped

Not this again, RC. :/

[NanceFloor]

Voting 8 ball, prevents scum from having info. That’s the point.

How would she know whether scum would have info or not if she wasn't scum

VOTE: NANCEFLOOR

I was in the last game. What are you doing?

You know we need to hammer 8 ball.

[NanceFloor]

RC, just knock it off, this wasn’t funny the first time.

[NanceFloor]

Or

Alternatively

We can lynch you, since you scumslipped

I am not getting trolled by you a second time. Fool me once . . .

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler: 8-ball
The game will have a commercial break, in which the Mafia choose a player to be the 8-ball, which is not publicly announced. Town must choose to eliminate a player by majority vote. If the 8-ball is lynched, it is revealed as such, and the Mafia get an extra nightkill that Night (for a total of 2 kills). Otherwise, the Mafia may not kill.

For anyone, who doesn’t understand why this is the correct play and how important it is to hammer asap.

[NanceFloor]

Is it that me/nancefloor is SvS?

Go fuck yourself, RC.

Please mind your language.

(Also please post from the correct account)

Sorry RC.

[NanceFloor]

Hi!

So do we RVS or quick lynch or what?
It seems on D1 the 8ball choice was set in stone.

Why would we quick lynch?

~Nancy head (in case that wasn’t obvious)

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: 0verki11

Reasons?

[NanceFloor]

Hi

Hello from the other side

I must’ve called a thousand times.

[NanceFloor]

Is it that me/nancefloor is SvS?

Go fuck yourself, RC.

Please mind your language.

(Also please post from the correct account)

Sorry RC.

I politely request you to copulate your own self, RC.

[NanceFloor]

Hi!

So do we RVS or quick lynch or what?
It seems on D1 the 8ball choice was set in stone.

Why would we quick lynch?

~Nancy head (in case that wasn’t obvious)

I didn't think it completely through but the basic idea behind a quick lynch would be like rolling the dice and sacrificing someone before scum has a chance to setup a lynch on the 8ball target. We would just have to hope we don't hit the 8ball but honestly it's only a small chance that we randomly lynch the 8 ball.

Last go round scum selected one of their teammates but they didn’t bus. But I suppose as good an idea as any.

Anyway, I think you may be my first tl in this game so far.

[NanceFloor]

I didn't think it completely through but the basic idea behind a quick lynch would be like rolling the dice and sacrificing someone before scum has a chance to setup a lynch on the 8ball target.

Mechanically it might be fine but wouldn't scum setting up a lynch on the 8ball target be somewhat obvious in hindsight?

Creature is town

Explain how you got that from four posts.

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: okapoka

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

discussing 8ball or who is 8ball defeats the purpose of why we voted for the 8ball within 2 pages without any stated gamesolvey posts.

Creature is town

pretty easy read, is it based off activity meta (thats slowly becoming outdated) like most

creature

reads?

I now have 4 reads.

the longer you hold off on telling them the bigger the pay off i expect

i wonder if i can just get away with posting GIFs of game of thrones characters drinking but 90% of that would be tyrion or cersei often within the same scene.

p-edit

VOTE: okapoka

- Dann

quick time to counter! VOTE: Nancefloor

No it doesn’t Taly. The purpose of 8 ball is to not discuss anything PRIOR to voting that. Btw, what is your issue with Dann’s Oka vote?

I assume you have one?

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

clem

, is the lack of response you have to the

nancefloor

99 vote your way of defending them?

tread carefully hun

I don’t like this. Acting like town leader is a Taly scumtell, I think?

I don’t recall town!you ever doing this.

[NanceFloor]

Talk to me about

OkaPoka

and

Nancefloor

.

Specifically the votes on

Oka

and 75.

p-edit

what's

Dann's

reason for voting

Oka

?

and is my vote on

Dann

the only thing about 99 that caught your attention?

if so, i need better GIFs

What

specifically

is your issue wity it?

You keep treating it as sus but not explaining WHY.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

clem

, is the lack of response you have to the

nancefloor

99 vote your way of defending them?

tread carefully hun

I really don’t like this post. Nothing Clem posted was scummy.

[NanceFloor]

Talk to me about

OkaPoka

and

Nancefloor

.

Specifically the votes on

Oka

and 75.

p-edit

what's

Dann's

reason for voting

Oka

?

and is my vote on

Dann

the only thing about 99 that caught your attention?

if so, i need better GIFs

Dann didn’t like the fact, that he voted someone who claimed to have 2 reads but didn’t inquire about them.

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, I don't remember the last time you saw me as scum, and the last time I saw you saying me

"me being a town leader is a scum-tell"

was when you were scum,

Merchant's Daughter

.

So is your answer to 107 that you ONLY are interested in my vote on your hydra and debate that I could be scum for getting a feel of the playerlist?

p-edit

clem

, is the lack of response you have to the

nancefloor

99 vote your way of defending them?

tread carefully hun

I really don’t like this post. Nothing Clem posted was scummy.

did I say he did anything scummy?

So, I mentioned the town leader thing in a game where I was scum, so that of course makes me scum here, right?

Are you even actually trying to sort us?

You haven’t even explained why you hated his vote so much and you’re looking for any reason to push us. Tell me I’m wrong here. I want to tr you.

[NanceFloor]

Talk to me about

OkaPoka

and

Nancefloor

.

Specifically the votes on

Oka

and 75.

p-edit

what's

Dann's

reason for voting

Oka

?

and is my vote on

Dann

the only thing about 99 that caught your attention?

if so, i need better GIFs

Dann didn’t like the fact, that he voted someone who claimed to have 2 reads but didn’t inquire about them.

Tell me why this is scummy Taly?

I’m not getting off you until you do.

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, I don't remember the last time you saw me as scum, and the last time I saw you saying me

"me being a town leader is a scum-tell"

was when you were scum,

Merchant's Daughter

.

So is your answer to 107 that you ONLY are interested in my vote on your hydra and debate that I could be scum for getting a feel of the playerlist?

p-edit

clem

, is the lack of response you have to the

nancefloor

99 vote your way of defending them?

tread carefully hun

I really don’t like this post. Nothing Clem posted was scummy.

did I say he did anything scummy?

Oh okay, he explained it in our hydra PT but not here.

@Dann, don’t do that anymore. *smack*

[NanceFloor]

taly is probably not scum btw

Yeah, Dann should have explained his reasons in the thread, not just our PT.

[NanceFloor]

Ouch, Nancy is mad at me

Hi Taly .o/

I supplied my vote without context because I like to see reactions to naked votes and I can always add full transparency later.

Why specifically did you find our vote the most interesting to poke at/sort out of the Okapoka votes?

[NanceFloor]

Ouch, Nancy is mad at me

Hi Taly .o/

I supplied my vote without context because I like to see reactions to naked votes and I can always add full transparency later.

Why specifically did you find our vote the most interesting to poke at/sort out of the Okapoka votes?

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

dont u think if mbaki wanted to share his reads he would have

Why was he your choice of vote then?

[NanceFloor]

dont u think if mbaki wanted to share his reads he would have

Why was he your choice of vote then?

- Dann

fuck I suck at this hydra thing

[NanceFloor]

dont u think if mbaki wanted to share his reads he would have

Why was he your choice of vote then?

because i feel like voting him will maximize content

How so?

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

Ouch, Nancy is mad at me

Hi Taly .o/

I supplied my vote without context because I like to see reactions to naked votes and I can always add full transparency later.

Why specifically did you find our vote the most interesting to poke at/sort out of the Okapoka votes?

- Dann

No, I’m not, I just assumed you mentioned your reasons. Please do it in the future.

Or if you naked vote for reactions, please give me the heads up first.

~N

[NanceFloor]

cuz hes a megatryhard and so pulling him directly into the frontlines of the games will make him a megamegatryhard

Why mbaki over RC then?

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

why are you encouraging him to vote me

Not what I was getting at

I'm just curious why he chose that specific try-hard player.

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

i feel like there's a really obvious answer there and that you don't really need to ask that question?

I agree. I was trying to see if he would bullshit an explanation or not.

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

UNVOTE:

I have pretty strong town reads in Taly and Oka rnow

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

UNVOTE:

I have pretty strong town reads in Taly and Oka rnow

- Dann

why oka?

I think his line of thinking re: mbaki is credible and town motivated given the experience we had in the recent game the 3 of us played together. mbaki/Oka were the centerpiece of the game—granted Oka was scum there—but it led to mbaki being forced to obv town and me being able to lock him as so

I also think scum is more likely to fabricate some sort of reasonable sounding explanation to why he chose mbaki over RC than respond like this:

i cant answer that question dann

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

its ok nancy is mad at me too

I am? I was but I’m probably more upset at myself for my reaction. I probably shouldn’t post when I don’t eat anything all day.

[NanceFloor]

I now have 4 reads.

I now have 4 lockscum reads.

Who?

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

creature

, are you going to do what

nancy

does and chronologically make one-quote-reply-posts about things that happened at least 1-2 pages ago - and half the time what you're quoting about is already resolved?

p-edit

no don't skip all page 5, am i and/or

Time Devil

lockscum?

p-edit again omfg

ooh, am i one?

Not all of us process the same way Taly.

[NanceFloor]

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Shocker! RC still can’t read me. Some things never change. :/

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: nancefloor

Bad vote.

[NanceFloor]

I'm not pushing you. don't give me shit for pushing you until I'm pushing you. If you're town I'll figure it out, let me do my thing until then.

I never said you were, I’m just frustrated that you seem not be able to read me and I honestly don’t know why. So sorry? Maybe I’m being unfair to you then but I just don’t get it.

[NanceFloor]

we are 8 pgs in do you honestly expect people to have accurate reads 8 pgs in

Alright, I’m being unreasonable. Point taken.

[NanceFloor]

i will not be pushing on you regardless of my read on you until some indeterminate point in the future.

Fine, I do want you to be sorted properly. @Taly, to answer your earlier question, I don’t have to many reads yet. I think you BEF and RC are town currently.

I think Dann agrees with that,

[NanceFloor]

i will not be pushing on you regardless of my read on you until some indeterminate point in the future.

Fine, I do want ME to be sorted properly. @Taly, to answer your earlier question, I don’t have to many reads yet. I think you BEF and RC are town currently.

I think Dann agrees with that,

[NanceFloor]

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann

[NanceFloor]

Now also searching replacement for

Shoshin

NO PLS

give her time

+1

PLS

has she even picked up her role PM?

@mod, she’s probably having internet connection difficulties, she didn’t flake

.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

I’ll give some attention to this game tonight.

I’ll be Conf, by the way, this was my first post.

Bias voted for 8-Ball.

VOTE: 0verki11

Which of you voted Overki11 then and why haven’t you given any reasons?

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

same

You’re tr CB or yourself?

~N

[NanceFloor]

Townreading Clemency.

-Bias

Any other reads and why?

Your hydra definitely isn’t any danger of verbosity, from what I’ve seen so far.

~N

[NanceFloor]

8-Ball Thoughts

RadiantCowbells - Never 8-Ball
mbaki - Never 8-Ball
OkaPoka - Possible, but I believe that they would be overlooked.
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu) - Could be, but similar to OkaPoka, but a little less.
Shoshin - Hasn’t even picked up yet, this is never 8-Ball
Vedith - Never 8-Ball
Creature - Hmm, could go either way, but I don’t think this is ever 8-Ball.
Taly - Never 8-Ball
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???) - I guess we could be 8-Ball. Kind of odd to comment on this.
Clemency - If familiar, High chance of being 8-ball
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor) - Medium-low chance at being 8-Ball.
Chennisden - If town, and scum are familiar with the playlist, highest chance at being 8-Ball, but for that reason, might not be 8-Ball.
Chemist1422 - eh.
0verkill - eh
BrightEyedFish - same as Clemency.
Shadowlesscloud - Replacement coming in is too risky. Not 8-Ball.
Fuscosco - High chance at being 8-Ball.

Conf

Are these reads based off of who you has the highest lynch equity?

Why tf are you using my avatar?

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Why are you trying to push us?

~N

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: Time Devil

[NanceFloor]

Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann

@TD

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we’re not the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we ARE the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever, never answer Dann’s question as to why. No they’re eager to mislynch us.

I think TD may be scum and knows we ARE the 8 ball.

~Nancy - resident bs detector

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Why are you trying to push us?

~N

Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann

@TD

Are you ever planning to answer this @Time Devil?

You initially voted us because you apparently sr us, now you think we’re the 8 ball? How did you get from sr us to thinking we’re the 8 ball?

~Nancy

Shit, sorry mod.

[NanceFloor]

Not liking dann this game.....

First: sr us, never really explains why.

VOTE: nancefloor

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Please do

Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

If you

agree

with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?

I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact 191 has to exist only gives credence.

Walking back initial fake sr on us.

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there

. If so let us know.

This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

-TL

Really hard driving our lynch now.

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target.

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

TD is the only one who is advocating the same slot as NEVER the 8 ball as his initial #1 sr but it’s abundantly clear that he thinks scum wouldn’t have chosen us as the 8 ball, so he’s now tr us.

His entire progressive on our slot is fake and is not a townie thought process

.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

whats the point of 8ball spec

There isn’t, we should just try to hit scum and hardpushing a slot’s lynch for any goddamned reason they can think of, isn’t townie, which is precisely what TD is doing.

~N

[NanceFloor]

kittybells

... im having trouble here



level with me and be my

shoshin

?

TD is the only one who is advocating the same slot as NEVER the 8 ball as his initial #1 sr but it’s abundantly clear that he thinks scum wouldn’t have chosen us as the 8 ball, so he’s now tr us.

His entire progressive on our slot is fake and is not a townie thought process

.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, I'm trying to find town. I have more scumreads than I'd like.

Chemist and BEF seem pretty townie.

~N

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, your 10-minute interval of trying to think up of someone that has posted today who is town has ended. Have a good day

I'll just see if the fire gets fanned or burned out without posting.

I didn’t know I was being timed. I don’t do timed anything if I can possibly help it.

[NanceFloor]

Nancy, I'm trying to find town. I have more scumreads than I'd like.

I like Oka for town and agree with Nancy on BEF.

I think I also understand why RC doesn't want to push this slot atm and I town read him for that.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

RC doesn't want to push this slot atm

why would they?

He said he finds our slot scummy but doesn't want to push yet.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

Liking Chenn and Overkill as well.

@Taly, I think that’s 6 now, possibly 7 or 8 if you include Oka/Fucosco, do I get a cookie now or something?


@Chennisden, I tr BEF because he seems to be trying to figure things out and didn’t seem to understand the 8 ball mechanic which is more likely to come from town.

~Nancy, putting the Nance in NanceFloor since recently

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Who cares? Dann isnt the most scummy player here, and 8ball spec takes away from finding scum.

On that note talk about your scumread with me please

+1

[NanceFloor]

kittybells

... im having trouble here



level with me and be my

shoshin

?

Who will be MY Shoshin

No one can actually ever replace Shoshin

but


*waves arms and does cartwheels, hoping a certain seal will notice her*

[NanceFloor]

Conf can you change avatars pls ty

+1

Yeah, it’s kind of weirding me out, I keep having to remind myself, my account wasn’t hacked.

[NanceFloor]

@Time Devil, where are you?

We’re still waiting for your answers to our questions.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

lightly townreading bef

We are not lynching for "not the 8ball". We are lynching for scum, and if we happen to hit the 8ball (

very

unlikely), that's our fault.

This game is a mix of slow and too jokey. Not interested so far.

I can agree with this. I just wasn't for sure what should be our best approach. So we play like a normal day and just hope we don't hit the 8ball. OK. Thst makes my vote on Chen useless.

UNVOTE:

@Chennisden,

I tr BEF because he seems to be trying to figure things out and didn’t seem to understand the 8 ball mechanic which is more likely to come from town.

His thought process seems genuine and non-agenday.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I feel like he was trying to get a reaction out of you

What kind? Both NF heads read it like they just wants to drive a lynch on us, without real reasons.

But we’ll know the answer to that if and when, they actually answer our questions.

[NanceFloor]

Looks like she never confirmed, RC

I haven’t seen her posting anywhere on site, I don’t think, so I think it’s pretty likely, she’s having internet issues, so my guess would be she hasn’t.

I hope she can fix it before it’s too late. :/

also, heyyyyy

Hey Ank. <3

~N

[NanceFloor]

Conf can you change avatars pls ty

+1

Yeah, it’s kind of weirding me out, I keep having to remind myself, my account wasn’t hacked.

I’m sorry I weirded you out. I changed it so I can flirt with Clemency for you.

Um okay.

[NanceFloor]

I should have separated those. Grammar! I’m not doing that for you, I changed avatars for you, I’m sure you knew that was meant, but that was definitely not what was written. Oh, isn’t grammar exciting!

~Conf

Thanks, I appreciate it, then.

[NanceFloor]

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Why are you trying to push us?

~N

Why do you find us scummy, TD?

- Dann

@TD

Are you ever planning to answer this @Time Devil?

You initially voted us because you apparently sr us, now you think we’re the 8 ball? How did you get from sr us to thinking we’re the 8 ball?

~Nancy

No I don’t think you’re the 8 ball- it’s exactly the opposite - I think there’s no way in hell that you ARE the 8ball which is another reason you are a safe lynch

How the hell do you know that? You were trying to persuade RC to push us not to long ago. Are you tr us now? If so, it’s anti-town of you to advocate for our lynch.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

you are my first tr

Not liking dann this game.....

First: sr us, never really explains why.

VOTE: nancefloor

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Please do

Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

If you

agree

with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?

I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact 191 has to exist only gives credence.

Walking back initial fake sr on us.

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there

. If so let us know.

This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

-TL

Really hard driving our lynch now.

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target.

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

~Nancy

Gosh I’m so sorry I’m trying to kill scum this game...I won’t try to play to my win condition anymore

-b

Dafuq? You’re still sr us? You think we’re both scum and the 8 ball?

I’m never unvoting you in this game until you’re dead.

~Nancy - resident scum catcher

[NanceFloor]

@Time Devil, you never actually gave the reasons why you’re sr us. Do you actually have any you’d care to share with the class?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, I don't remember the last time you saw me as scum, and the last time I saw you saying me

"me being a town leader is a scum-tell"

was when you were scum,

Merchant's Daughter

.

So is your answer to 107 that you ONLY are interested in my vote on your hydra and debate that I could be scum for getting a feel of the playerlist?

p-edit

clem

, is the lack of response you have to the

nancefloor

99 vote your way of defending them?

tread carefully hun

I really don’t like this post. Nothing Clem posted was scummy.

did I say he did anything scummy?

Oh okay, he explained it in our hydra PT but not here.

@Dann, don’t do that anymore. *smack*

taly is probably not scum btw

Yeah, Dann should have explained his reasons in the thread, not just our PT.

this turnaround is not congruent with the rest of nancy's posting on this page

it's most likely a backpedal

Nope.

[NanceFloor]

i will not be pushing on you regardless of my read on you until some indeterminate point in the future.

Fine, I do want you to be sorted properly. @Taly, to answer your earlier question, I don’t have to many reads yet. I think you BEF and RC are town currently.

I think Dann agrees with that,

noting this post for later

It was a typo, which I immediately corrected.

[NanceFloor]

RadiantCowbells is a safe townread for a while
Taly is a safe townread for a while
BrightEyedFish is a townread but he's derping
Clemency is a townread... a weak one, but still probably town

Taly x Confirmation Bias debate is not SvS based on how it died down, if one slot is scum here it's ConfBias since they are a lot more self-aware of how they look from it than Taly does

Confirmation Bias +

Nancefloor

+ 0verki11 + Time Devil <--- this is all my scumreads currently

Fuscosco is skirting the edge into a scumread, but is not quite there yet.

I can see Chemist going either way depending on how he reengages into the game, I can see his entrance coming from either alignment.
OkaPoka I'll need to double check, mainly the names that have been pushing on him throughout the day so far

mbaki/Shoshin/Creature/chennisden/shadowlesscloud <--- not sure what to think of yet

Cool, you can’t read me either.

~Nancy

Btw, explain your Overki11 scumread because I’m not seeing it.

[NanceFloor]

my townreads are in order of strength

my scumreads are roughly Confirmation Bias > Time Devil > Nancefloor > 0verki11 atm in terms of read strength

If you seriously think I’m scum here, I should probably not be tr you because I know you are better at reading me than this.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

0verki11 is scum mainly for that post I quoted, Chen's posts were nothing new at all and scum can easily have posted those np

it's a very easy townread to jump on, especially with the only other 'content' from that slot being the other weird reads for the gamestate that I noted earlier

Something is off here because I’m not currently sr them.

[NanceFloor]

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Why tf is Shoshin even on your list? She is probably having internet problems. Are you freaking kidding me?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Will the real town please stand up?

hi i'm town so you should start calling me scum

Do you think Ank could possibly fake this as scum?

I’m really not sure what to think rn.

~ND

I just don’t believe her sr on me.

[NanceFloor]

Will the real town please stand up?

hi i'm town so you should start calling me scum

I don't think you're scum though

girl ive been sittin all day

p-edit

.....

Thoughts on Ank’s catch up? I am totally not buying her sr on me. I also wasn’t crazy about Vedith wanting to nominate BEF but didn’t read too much into that, at the time.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

ank has done nothing to leave her scum range.

Yeah, I’m definitely not tr her for those posts. If I compare some recent towngames of hers, this catchup seems kind of surfacey and faked to me. Not the usual deep sorting that I’ve come to expect from town!Ank. It reads kind of lamisty to me.

I can read obvtown Ank right away and something seems off. ISO her in nsg Anuket Topaz where she was bleeding town or in Merchant’s Daughter, for contrast.

Rn, not thrilled with TD/mBaki/CB/Ank or CB’.Wrt mBaki: He has been a tryhard from the getgo but am I sr playstyle here?

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

I mindmelded with

Ank

on a few things, I'm discerning on what's AI or not.

I don't get why you focus solely on

Ank's

scumread on you versus the other 3 scumreads and several townreads she listed

Nancy

I agree on TD and maybe CB. Don’t get Overki11.

But obviously, town!Ank isn’t that terrible at reading me. And her reasons for sr me, aren’t the usual reasons she has, right or wrong, so yeah, I’m hella suspicious of it.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: creature

i think this one here is right

I have no clue how to read Creature here. He’s a big fat null for me rn.

[NanceFloor]

It’s hard to defend myself here while I’m a secret alt. But I’m town, and people going after me make sense to come after town me

My other head’s staying secret, but fuck it, I’m Flavor.

You’re being sr for that 8 ball readslist. You can understand why that looks sus?

~ND

Thoughts on TD, Ank? Other slots? but I can’t see a world where TD doesn’t flip scum rn.

[NanceFloor]

is boonskies the other head

No, Morality.

[NanceFloor]

is boonskies the other head

Oh, I should do a triple hydra with my 3 accounts and play as each one.

Nah, this is just Flavor here.

I had to put because I think Ankamius is town, and it’s my playstyle that sets him off.

Why is Ank town? She’s NIA for me rn and town!Ank never sr me for the reasons she gave here but I suppose that there’s a first time for everything but meh.

[NanceFloor]

I don't think I have good meta on either of your heads even if I knew the other one.

@Confbias

Do you have any scumreads right now? Shitty bland question, but you're mostly voicing townreads and it seems counterproductive with the gamestate.

p-edit

ugh

nancy

if youre going to scumread everyone who suspects you this game then that just makes it much, much harder to solve you.

I don’t sr either you or RC. I’m suspicious when people give reads on me that don’t make sense to me and Ank’s reasons don’t make sense to me. And as I said, if she’s town here, she will make it really freaking obvious over time. Time Devil otoh, is pinging my scumdar off of the charts. I think if that’s ever town, I should quit playing mafia altogether.

[NanceFloor]

Love when secret alts show up to be useless.

Don’t you have any reads at all? You’re just posting nonsense.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: Confirmation Bias

I very openly, multiple times, told Flavor Leaf that I didn't want to play with them again. They completely ruin games for me. I'm not allowed to request that they replace out but I'd like to request that we policy lynch them right now.

1: You act like I pay attention to playerlists.

2: I had zero effort put into signups for this game.

3: No. Get over it, and just play the damn game.

FL, I went through this in DnD, when I hydra’d with Mathblade as an anonymous hydra. The game wasn’t fun for anyone. I think you probably are town here but this game is going to be aids with both of you in it.

I like both of you but this situation is going to majorly suck. :/

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: Confirmation Bias

I very openly, multiple times, told Flavor Leaf that I didn't want to play with them again. They completely ruin games for me. I'm not allowed to request that they replace out but I'd like to request that we policy lynch them right now.

Nancefloor vote confirmation bias with me.

I don’t want to be in the middle of this. I don’t want a repeat of DnD mafia. I’m friends with both you guys. I woulds rather not play then to be put in the middle of this shitstorm. :/

[NanceFloor]

Nancefloor vote CB

I won’t be put in the middle of this, I’d rather not play.

I’m really sorry Dann but I didn’t sign up for this situation. :/

[NanceFloor]

I’m going to talk to Dann, I owe him that much. This totally fucking sucks. I was really enjoying this.

I’m pissed at both of you. FL for ignoring your blacklist and you for forcing me in the middle of it. I’m friends with BOTH of you. I didn’t know RC had blacklisted FL.

Thanks guys for ruining this for me. :/

[NanceFloor]

It’s hard to defend myself here while I’m a secret alt. But I’m town, and people going after me make sense to come after town me

My other head’s staying secret, but fuck it, I’m Flavor.

You’re being sr for that 8 ball readslist. You can understand why that looks sus?

~ND

Thoughts on TD, Ank? Other slots? but I can’t see a world where TD doesn’t flip scum rn.

pretty blatantly fake thought processes

Dw Ank, you won’t get a chance to mislych me. :/

[NanceFloor]

someone is harassing me by following me into games and you're mad at me for expecting you to take my side on it?

I agree with you that he shouldn’t have signed up for this game. I just don’t want to be put in the middle of it.. I’ve already talked to Dann who is totally awesome and one of the best hydra partners ever. 5 stars <3 and he completely understands.

I am friends with both of you. I don’t want to be put in the middle of it.

[NanceFloor]

that's regarding TL not that post

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. I haven’t been able to think about anything other than RC/FL drama’

[NanceFloor]

@RC, @FL

Can you guys work this out or not, because I really don’t need the drama. :/

[NanceFloor]

@RC, @FL

Can you guys work this out or not, because I really don’t need the drama. :/

I mean, I get along with everyone. Even RC until he starts going aggro on me, and even then I just respond, so I would say yes to that.

Why did you signup if you knew he didn’t want to play with you?

This didn’t work out in DnD mafia and tbh, I don’t see things being any better here. It just really fucking sucks that I’m playing with this awesome hydra partner in a really fun setup and I have to be part of this shitstorm, that I never signed up for.

I just wanted to play a damn game, not be in WWIII.

[NanceFloor]

Can you guys just read my posts...? I already answered that like three times, Nancy.

My partner signed us up, and was trying to get a game for us.

I also join every single BNL game for the most part.

And I’m not going to miss out on some big event style game just because of some fragile ego.

This isn’t helping anyone and you’re fanning the flames with this. What about the rest if us? How is any of this fair?

[NanceFloor]

both of you have a history of being blacklisted, tbh. its a sign of maturity to tru to bury the hatchet

That would be nice but I don’t believe in Santa Claus.

[NanceFloor]

mod, please replace NanceFloor into Dannfor

I <3 you Dann.

[NanceFloor]

NanceFloor replaces Dannflor

\o/


Sad boons is gone, but at least nance is back!

Thanks, glad to be back. I only outed to avoid the inevitable shitstorm that I thought was inevitable. Now that there’s guaranteed peace, I’m happy to be still playing.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

is conf or bias flavor?

Conf right, he outed it.

[NanceFloor]

@ankle

no particular order, tentative readslist upon skimming

town

ankle
kittybells
mbaki
confbias
clem
creature

sorting

chenn
oka
BEF
fusc
chem
shadow
shoshin slot

scum

overki11
dann slot
time devil

i dont like my townread category atm, mainly because if half of them are town as i think they most likely are, they need to actually :EFFORT: and show a shred of transparency about their thoughts in the game.... otherwise, me voicing a townread on them feels wasted.

oka/chenn

might be in a town category but i need to look at their posting the past few pages as they provided some juicy interactions

overki11

can get lynched. them painting your read on them as a tunnel was both a deflection and a weak defense. i see nothing of substance that suggest town-motivation.

the reason my vote isnt there is because i havent read the game with full comprehension yet and if theyre town they should realize that the scumread on them has credibility.

I don’t really understand why you sr us Taly?

I have to reread the parts after I thought I was out of the game, so why are we lynching Shadows or Overkill11? Time Devil has done nothing to convince me yet, he’s not scum.

~ Nancy

[NanceFloor]

Like I dont particularly like being SRed by you in every freaking game you hop in.

chemist

where did you go

i fell asleep

I’m going to read shadow from the perspective of someone who has a lot of prior experience with him

Okay so he has not done like anything

Good to know

I’d wait for him to do stuff that’s actually readable or lynch him if we can’t find anything else

Fucosco, Chemist, town I think from this.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

they have lots of talk but i dont see much substance but they speak of it in such a way that implies they have lots of substance behind it so i want to see what im missing

or maybe

they lie

okay rephrase

are you being confident to get people to sheep you

or you are you very sure that this flips scum to the point where you are willing to sabotage the future to get this lynched asap

im v sure this flips scum.

why do you think nancefloor would 180 on my slot when its easier not to?

does lynching a town confbias raise town wr?

yes

how so

theres no other content and nancefloor has been screaming scum?

can you enlighten me where its screaming scum cuz i cant see it

Oka, sr tr. Wrt to Chenn, I don’t understand the 180 on our slot.

~N

[NanceFloor]

As for the discussion of the 8ball, isnt it actually protown to pop it this early? Unless scum can correctly guess who everyone is scumreading and would lynch, rn is the best chance to get the lynch+no kill from it as theres the highest number of people alive as there will ever be.

Don’t see why he’s scum.

Nullread on him so far.

[NanceFloor]

shadowlesscloud should pick up ank's vote because i fill what she wanted for a lynch + overkill has reasonable doubt due to meta

thats two

time devil is ok with this so thats three

suddenly if you vote with me

we will have more than me

@Time Devil has switched his vote? I was sure he was obvscum hellbent on mislynching us. I honestly don’t know what to make of it.

CB slot might also have been town? I guess we’ll find that out when we get a replacement.

[NanceFloor]

low activity from someone that higher activity is expected from a quick glance at profile +

Is this game usually this slow?

few posts that are made are not related to sorting or doing anything. more just general questions about game state

as for why thats scum

because we have a lot of slots that arent doing much, it would provide him reasonable cover with "what about him" if he is ever pushed for lack of posting because well, there are slots with equal - less content than him

Oh okay, so not opposed. But I still think highest scum equity is with the slots pushing 8 ball WIFOM. \_0_/

[NanceFloor]

i only read up to 500 because i just woke up but i'd rather pl the person throwing the tantrum just saying

Can we please not do this?

[NanceFloor]

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

what why though

We’re not scum. I don’t think Oka and Chemist are either, so adamantly oppose those. Even worse is lynching a slot that probably never picked up their role pm.

Chenn is may be bad town? I obviously don’t like him pushing us but it doesn’t look fake like TD.

[NanceFloor]

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

VOTE: Mbaki
idk if this is scum 8ball its still a good lynch for town

Why is this post scummy?

[NanceFloor]

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

VOTE: Mbaki
idk if this is scum 8ball its still a good lynch for town

as in scum choosing themselves as 8ball

I don’t like this post.

[NanceFloor]

I have 2 reads already with decent confidence.

VOTE: 8ball

I now have 4 reads.

The mentioning of reads but no shareing seems useless.

Code: Select all

OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Trying to control votes so early on despite not doing much themselves + no real reasoning at all.

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

Like wolfy af, lynching someone because you dont agree with their playstyle is unneeded

We have 4 days. Please relax Chen.

Oka lynch is cool.

I

think

Shadow is town, for some pretty garbage reasons.

I am not placing a vote. I will be voting by end of day, do not worry.

Disagree with Shadow read, and I dont see a reason not to vote

Yeah, I’m seeing why you’re sr this. I was in a game once where a player who wound up being SK kept using the expression, “garbage reads”. Garbage reads/reasons read like a way to make a read without having to justify it.

[NanceFloor]

625 is wolfy and I cant really see any town motivation behind the post, im saying its a possbilty although unlikely (ish)
I havent played with them before, and will have a quick look at their playstyle later

I can see how you would react negatively to that post but I don't think him disliking a player's playstyle is AI.

wanting to lynch them or putting them on the list to lynch is though

Hate to contradict my other head but didn’t mbaki sr Chennis also on playstyle?

[NanceFloor]

I'm caught up

I'm not understanding why shadowless is a better lynch than overkill, can someone explain to me why?

Shadows is a null for me rn and I’d rather not lynch a null poster.

~N

[NanceFloor]

Vote Count 1.2.4

OkaPoka (3): Creature, BrightEyedFish, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2): OkaPoka, Confirmation Bias
Confirmation Bias (1): Taly
Time Devil (1): Fuscosco
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Shoshin, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

How is Oka the top wagon?

[NanceFloor]

Vote Count 1.2.4

OkaPoka (3): Creature, BrightEyedFish, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2): OkaPoka, Confirmation Bias
Confirmation Bias (1): Taly
Time Devil (1): Fuscosco
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Shoshin, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

How is Oka the top wagon?

Why did we unvote Time Devil, Dann?

[NanceFloor]

Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.

so what you think chennis is trying to bait the lynch as the 8ball and spew dannflor town going down?

This doesn’t seem plausible

Chenn is a horrible player and gets mislynched a lot. Probably also the case here. He’s obviously wrong but lean to bad town over scum.

Rn, trying to decide between you and Overkill11.

You’re both objectively scummy.

[NanceFloor]

If I thought Chennisden was scum, I would be voting them. They are and have been closer to town. Just, if they are scum, there is good partner equity for Dann, who I also do not have as a town read.

I am holding my reads as much as I can. I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.

I’m leaning Overkill11 rn. Him calling you scum 8 ball pinged me.

I think I’ve caught half the scum team so far:

Overkill11 and TD. Not sure about the the rest yet, probably after I see some flips.

~N

[NanceFloor]

Time Devil I think we need to compromise here.

What’s the compromise?

on OKA.

mbaki, time devil, let's lynch oka

I think Oka’s town.

[NanceFloor]

Ankamius's supposed 'tunneling' of me is strange in the fact its 'Lynch the shitter' arguement when theres multiple other people with very little content.
+ the tunnel isnt putting any pressure on me and is just beginning to be repetitive which I probably should check other games for similar things

I’ll know Ank is town when she reads me one way or another for actually AI things. I’m still waiting for that. I’m not caring too much for you mbaki push. Scum is probably most likely in slots driving agendas. My gut is still screaming at me that TD is scum.

~N

[NanceFloor]

i only read up to 500 because i just woke up but i'd rather pl the person throwing the tantrum just saying

Can we please not do this?

i meant as in over voting conf but thats over now

Yeah, thank God.

[NanceFloor]

Vote Count 1.2.4

OkaPoka (3): Creature, BrightEyedFish, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2): OkaPoka, Confirmation Bias
Confirmation Bias (1): Taly
Time Devil (1): Fuscosco
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Shoshin, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-27 12:00:00)

Mod Notes:

How is Oka the top wagon?

Who should be the top wagon atm?

I’d like it to be TD obviously. I have a hard gut sr on that slot. I just think their entire progression and read on us is fake. Nothing about it seems to come from a town process. Their play kind of reminds me of scum!Pervival in TRO. And I wound up being right about them. I have the exact same feeling on TD.

[NanceFloor]

So...

I'm town reading Overk1ll right now, to be clear, I'll explain why when I put together my reads list today

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

This is the problem, Taly. Overkill posts some terrible LHF posts. Then Nancy replies with some terrible LHF reads and responses. Meanwhile, she's calling out other terrible LHF posters.

This is readable, yes, but it's not fun to play games like this.

Okay, so yeah I can see Overkill11 being possible mislynchbait.

VOTE: Time Devil

I can’t see how this is town.

[NanceFloor]

Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...

I was feeling somewhat so at that point. But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)

That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

@Taly, I was being tunnelled in that game by Fire and wanted to avoid a temp ban. I rep’d out here for the exact reasons I claimed. And if you would bother to read DnD mafia game, I seriously doubt you’d be sr us for it. And fyi, at least Math wasn’t actively antagonizing RC like FL was, so I really don’t see how the two situations have anything at all in common.

Like I think you’ve got it wrongly stuck in your head that AtE is scum indicative for me, it’s not. I don’t fake my emotions and the replace out should be correctly viewed as NAI.

I need more than two browsers. :/

[NanceFloor]

Dann, are you feeling de-motivated? I thought you'd be attempting to gamesolve more directly with the thread here...

I was feeling somewhat so at that point.

But I feel better today and I'll get my reads list going as well. (I'll also stop talking about it and just do it after this post)

That vote was just because I wasn't completely happy with the one on TD and I wanted to show support for RC at the time. I was still interacting directly with the thread and trying to sort at the time outside of that vote so I'm unsure what you're getting at.

- Floor

the bolded is what im getting at, ty for coming to my ted talk

Just ftr, I wouldn’t have replaced back in if RC had been the one to replace out, which is what I was expecting to happen. Had I known that the mods were going to handle it the way they did, I would have never even considered replacing out.

~Nancy

[NanceFloor]

Nancy

, did any part of my post say that you were scum for replacing out here in 812? Or you were scum for AtE?

These were my exact words.

There's nothing AI

by Nancy replacing out and then lol-replacing-in even if her in-thread reasons for doing so were injected with emotion. 529

You come to conclusions and make assumptions that aren't there, and I don't think you're reading my posts thoroughly. THIS is a reason why I'm scumreading your slot.

You did this all page 5 and shifted your focus on me the second I unvoted you

(which wasn't a scumreading vote)

and it was mentioned that I was likely town by someone else. You and

Dann's

early-strong townread on me does not feel congruent to your approach and I'm not going to do another back-and-forth with you if you're more focused on trying to find suspicion or a resolution in my posts outside of the content I give.

Yeah but I just think your phrasing “lol replacing” back in makes me question that. If I was wrong about that, then I’m sorry. However, nothing about that is remotely AI for me. I mix up stuff all the time and you should never be sr me for that.

[NanceFloor]

P.edit. I don’t think you’re scum here Taly, so I don’t know what more you want me to say. Yeah, I do tend to be automatically suspicious of people sr me. Show me a game, where that hasn’t been the case? Is it good play? Maybe not but you should know if you’re at all familiar with my meta, it’s completely NAI for me.

Now that I’ve reasessed, I st tr you, here.

So, maybe that’s what you ought to be looking at then. Do I reassess my reads with good reason or don’t I?

Nothing has changed for me about TD, they are still my strongest scumread in this game.

[NanceFloor]

Not liking dann this game.....

First: sr us, never really explains why.

VOTE: nancefloor

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Please do

Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

If you

agree

with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?

I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact 191 has to exist only gives credence.

Walking back initial fake sr on us.

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there

. If so let us know.

This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

-TL

Really hard driving our lynch now.

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target.

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

~Nancy

TD is the only one who is advocating the same slot as NEVER the 8 ball as his initial #1 sr but it’s abundantly clear that he thinks scum wouldn’t have chosen us as the 8 ball, so he’s now tr us.

His entire progressive on our slot is fake and is not a townie thought process

.

~Nancy

whats the point of 8ball spec

There isn’t, we should just try to hit scum and hardpushing a slot’s lynch for any goddamned reason they can think of, isn’t townie, which is precisely what TD is doing.

~N

My case on why I think TD is scum.

@Taly

As for you, you are clearly trying to sort and it reads genuine to me. I wish I could say that for Ank, whom I’m still on the fence about.

As for Overkill11, Dann should probably respond to that.

[NanceFloor]

Dann isn’t liking Ank so far either. Perhaps that will change but something seems a bit off to both of us. I’ll keep her as a null for now, until that changes.

[NanceFloor]

If NanceFloor flips town, I will vote Reveal the next day.

That's how confident I am that Nance is scum. Their continued insistence in deathtunneling me and continuing to use the misinterpretation as a "case" against me is proof Nance is caught scum.

-TL

No sorry, you’re not mislynching us. Your push on us has been bad and fake from the getgo. I’ll reassess, when you give me good fucking reason to do so and not a moment sooner. You’re not baiting me into not sr you. Town it up or stfu basically. Sorry if that seems harsh but I really do think you’re scum here. Prove me wrong.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

If NanceFloor flips town, I will vote Reveal the next day.

That's how confident I am that Nance is scum. Their continued insistence in deathtunneling me and continuing to use the misinterpretation as a "case" against me is proof Nance is caught scum.

-TL

No sorry, you’re not mislynching us. Your push on us has been bad and fake from the getgo. I’ll reassess, when you give me good fucking reason to do so and not a moment sooner. You’re not baiting me into not sr you. Town it up or stfu basically. Sorry if that seems harsh but I really do think you’re scum here. Prove me wrong.

~ND

P.edit, if Dann disagrees with this, he can switch our vote but I still can’t see how you’re not scum here.

[NanceFloor]

No sorry, you’re not mislynching us. Your push on us has been bad and fake from the getgo. I’ll reassess, when you give me good fucking reason to do so and not a moment sooner. You’re not baiting me into not sr you. Town it up or stfu basically. Sorry if that seems harsh but I really do think you’re scum here.

Prove me wrong

.

~ND

Wolfy reaction btw

-TL

Not helping, do better.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Aight lez git down to it mah homies — (Translation: Never give me a keyboard and a liberal amount of free time)

WARNING: The following reads list is not ordered strictly by strength, it's just by who I decide to talk about first vs. later.

side effects may include: vomiting, diarrhea, nausea, etc.

Taly

- I have you as lean town. Generally, I think the way you've been approaching this game is town indicative in the way you've been interacting with players and genuinely trying to sort them. You are constantly asking questions and then actually following through on those questions and forming conclusions—which is the biggest missing part in scum play similar to your play here. I also think the way you backed off of us in 406 is pretty town motivated, especially because I (think?) you're fairly familiar with Nancy as a player. It benefits scum a lot more than town to gladiate Nancy and clog up the thread. You still clearly attempting to solve us but in an indirect manner is more effort towards our slot than I think scum would give and a much more town oriented mindset to approaching us than trying to force a 1v1.

However, a few of your posts have raised some ?? as I'm reading and I'm hoping you can walk me through your thought processes because it's preventing me from town reading you as strongly as I'd like.

ugh nancy if youre going to scumread everyone who suspects you this game then that just makes it much, much harder to solve you.

For example, in regards to the above, I feel like you

know

that's Nancy's specialty regardless of alignment (sorry Nancy I love you) and thus this kind of observation feels fake. In fact, because of your assertion that you wouldn't be direct solving us earlier, I feel like this was already implicit in your approach to us. Anyway, I'm mostly curious why you haven't been trying to directly interact and sort me more? Especially if the Nance head isn't giving you what you want. You've shot me a question here and there but nothing that makes me feel like you're actively trying to solve me. Maybe I'm partially to blame because I've let Nancy be the more active head, but I would like to interact with you more.

Specifically, can you talk to me about your push on Confirmation Bias earlier and why you thought 8-ball speculation was scum indicative? And I don't necessarily think WIFOM = scum here.

BEF

- First read I mindmelded with Nancy on. His sort of bumbling about with the 8-ball strategy from posts 220 to 350 feels genuine and from what I've seen I don't think he's a player that could convincingly fake that. If he's scum, I would assume he'd have had time with his scum team after the 8-ball got chosen to discuss strategy / why it got chosen and would thus enter the day with a little more purpose than what he did. Confusion/lostness can be scum tell, but here I think it's town indicative. His vote on Oka in 350 to try to get a wagon going and generate content is town motivated as well.

RadiantCowbells

- Drama and everything else aside, I specifically think the way RC has approached this slot is indicative of town. I've alluded to this previously but I'll re-explain here.

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

I'm not pushing you. don't give me shit for pushing you until I'm pushing you.

If you're town I'll figure it out, let me do my thing until then.

The scum read makes sense I think, but it's also definitely town motivated to work to calm Nancy down and specifically reassure with the bolded. RC knows hard pushing Nancy won't produce anything productive content wise, but I also think if he was scum he could easily lead a mislynch here if he wanted to. I also think I understand some other reasons he may not want to push us just yet. One being that Nancy and I (I think and hope) have at least some capacity to obv town and if we're town we should be able to make that evident eventually. Another reason is something I can't/won't talk about yet.

Overkill

- I have meta with Overkill in that I've actually been his scum partner in a game before, so I'll admit that's part of my read here because he feels tonally a lot different from what I'd expect. His solving was also extremely forced from what I remember but here I find it much more natural and understandable, particularly in regards to his actions towards the mbaki slot. mbaki has I think a... polarizing... playstyle that often attracts more "LHF" town to push because they feel rubbed the wrong way by it. After discussing with Overkill, I think he believes his reasons behind pushing mbaki. There's also a small specific difference between this game and my scum game with him in that when policy lynching was brought up there, he repeatedly emphasized how stupid PLing was in a LAMIST attempt, whereas here he's been more focused on actually just not PLing and lowkey trying to diffuse the situation between FL and RC.

This read has a lot of gut behind it but I feel oddly confident on it? at the very least I'm confused by the strong scum reads here

OkaPoka

- I've already explained part of my town read here and you can find it at the beginning of the Nancefloor ISO. The jist of it is that his approach to the mbaki slot at the beginning of the game makes sense and is town motivated. Additionally, I don't think Oka's first thought as scum here is to push mbaki given the last game the three of us had together. I'm a little wary of this slot because he's fooled me as scum before, but that paranoia actually reinforces my town read here a bit because he reads tonally quite different here as opposed to my experience with his scum meta. I would like to discuss this read with anyone who scum reads Oka because a lot of his posts just gut town ping me and I'd want to know if there's something really obvious I'm missing in terms of scum indicative stuff.

Time Devil

- I'm not as convinced as Nancy that you're scum here but... your actions are confusing me and the way you're dealing with this slot doesn't seem town motivated. Basically, you've failed to interact with ME at all despite me directly questioning you several times. You've mentioned how you don't think this is my town game, which is a case in-congruent with how much experience either of you have with me. Your confidence in your scum read here also seems completely unwarranted given that. You seem much more involved in just repeating we're scum over and over for reasons I'm still unclear on than actually solving this game with anyone.

I would appreciate it if you answered my questions and interacted with my head more if you're town. If you're scum, I'm also wondering if you're also the 8ball or bluffing/gambiting that you are with how blatant you are being in tunneling this slot and ignoring me. Like, I know a TL/Baezu hydra is probably pretty mislynchable if town, but you HAVE to try harder than this if you're town.

Ankamius

- Again, Ank is someone who has scum read our slot but failed to really sort or try to interact with me at all. Like, you seem pretty confident you can sort me sooner or later in post 607 but I don't think you've said a single word about or to me this game and that feels... off. It's also a shock to me to see you scum hunting a lot more than you're town hunting this game. I understand you approach every game differently, but I'd expect you to try and sort/gather a good town block regardless of playstyle given the nature of the 8-ball and what it means for mislynching today. What little town hunting you've done doesn't feel genuine; instead your town reads are "safe town reads for now" or weak town reads. That doesn't sit well based on what I know about you.

Also, I need you to walk me through your Overkill read. Because I obviously disagree with you there and whatever you're seeing is not as obvious to me as it is to you.

##########

As far as other reads, mbaki could be town but I don't have a solid read on him yet. Regardless, don't think he's a good D1 lynch as I've explained before.

Not gelling with Nancy at all on the Chemist tr, he's not done enough for that.

Shadowless might be scum for asking if the game is usually this slow and proceeding to bottom post.

Creature is probably town and if he isn't RC will catch him eventually.

Fusco I tonally read as town I think?

I'm holding off on reading Confirmation Bias until a replacement is found.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

i really don't want to use this

but nancefloor slot seems to have benefited soo much from this exchange while doing so little

what benefit?
and why not RC?

What Chenn is saying here is absolute nonsense because my temp replace out was entirely NAI. I would have done the same, even if I wasn’t town here.

So. considering that it was entirely NAI, how did it “benefit” us in the slightest? I would in fact, argue that the exact opposite was the case as my temp replace out got wrongly sr for some reason. It shouldn’t be alignment read in the slightest.

[NanceFloor]

I failed to mention Chennis just realized, I don't really have a read on him yet unfortunately. But I'll ISO him when I return later since he's pushing us.

Hit me with any questions about my reads and I'll try to get back to you tonight. TD/Ank/Taly, I specifically wanna talk with you.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

the mbaki lynch list is terrible though

What's terrible about it? What names should be on the list that aren't?

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OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Well, i feel like theres def some elitism and generally bad implications about this list i could infer. Like am I off this list because Im your likely choice for an 8ball?


This list is good. It gives us a good way to judge your future actions.

You shouldn’t be on anyone’s list because I think you’re pretty obvtown and we need to lynch who is scum and we can’t wifom scum. Last go round, scum!Momo tainted the well, this time we were fortunate that no one did and because of that, wifomming who is likely the 8 ball is pretty much pointless.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

You’ve also seen town me a few times now, I believe, so what makes you see that differently?

Looks advantage seeking, if you know what i mean. agenda based.

anyway if you are town kill scum with me.

This is suuuuper aggressive.

they have lots of talk but i dont see much substance but they speak of it in such a way that implies they have lots of substance behind it so i want to see what im missing

or maybe

they lie

Theyre different pushes. I felt like td was trying to pull out a reaction from nance, purposely pushing them into acting. I was disappointed when nance hard-pushed back; its such a stereotypical tunnel happening from not-much sustenance.

Chen's is kind of crap, td's is kind of towny in tone.

Chen Dann feels SvS, anybody else? That level of confidence from a player of Chenn's caliber is unwarranted, and feels wrong.

yes.

SvS might be possible. Id expect nothing to come of the push on nance in that case, since chen!scum would want the free tunnel and not to build a wagon.

oka's perspective

Im undecided on oka. I dont read oka's view as oppurtunistic. But diggy for info? sure. As scum I like to probe for a good foundation to build a legit-looking case on.

How was TD trying to pull out reactions from us? All he keeps doing and continues to do, is call us caught scum/wolf on shampoo, rince, repeat. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us. All I’ve seen from him other than that is ludicrous defensiveness. Agree about Chenn. I still don’t get the 180 on something clearly NAI. The only one tunnelling our slot, that I could see clearly looking for reactions was Taly. I do get Dann’s concern however.

~Nance

[NanceFloor]

@Dann, while I’m not hard townreading Chemist, I haven’t seen anything he’s done so far as remotely scummy, so until he does, I will tl him.

I pretty much agree with your readslist otherwise.

[NanceFloor]

shadowless

I dont have a read on either shadow or overkill.

lll iso those two after i read up.

i have contacted multiple list mods and the game mods.

RC has shitposted this whole game, and i dont like it.

and yes, Im going to consider the whole spat w/flavor as part of a giant shitpost.

Ankle is town

i think so.
But why arent you posting at all?

Creature is not town?

gun to head, Id go here rn.

I'll tone back, I'm sorry

Dont be sorry. Its something I have to sort out myself. My playstyle can be . . . in need of improvement. Less shitpostting, less open with my TrainofThought, and more reserved. I come off, i feel, as immature and even juvenille. It grates me because people dont take it seriously until I bust open the game. Take flavor's talk about the recent musicals game. I had solved the better portion of the game but my style and an extended period of nonposting got me quicklynched by unsure town.

To be fair to RC, this is NAI for him. He did the same, actually much worse in DnD and I don’t think any of it is scum indicative. He was town in that game fwiw.

Also, I am still currently nullreading Creature, so I don’t get the tr on him. He needs to town it a helluva lot more, before I give him as easy tr.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us.

In what world is the proper response is to push his lynch over what you believe is an ineffective push? Its an issue where your response to his push is to push him for the same quality of material as he was pushing you with.

The world where he remains my strongest sr. Why should my read on him have changed at all? He’s done pretty much jack to earn it?

[NanceFloor]

. In what world do you read that as making any attempt at all to try to sincerely sort us.

In what world is the proper response is to push his lynch over what you believe is an ineffective push? Its an issue where your response to his push is to push him for the same quality of material as he was pushing you with.

The world where he remains my strongest sr. Why should my read on him have changed at all? He’s done pretty much jack to earn it?

No, unlike TD, I actually have a decent case. Do I need to keep reposting it over and over again?

[NanceFloor]

Not liking dann this game.....

First: sr us, never really explains why.

VOTE: nancefloor

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

Please do

Tries to manipulate RC into pushing us.

i think nancefloor is scummy but i also don't want to push them for reasons

And I 100% agree with you on this

If you

agree

with RC, what part of him not being interested in pushing us, went over your head?

I can't help but feel like the NanceFloor heads disagree with each other, and the fact 191 has to exist only gives credence.

Walking back initial fake sr on us.

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there

. If so let us know.

This does not seem right. Is there a reason for not wanting to be on Oka's wagon? I agree with Fuscosco that this is overly cautious.

(but yeah chen should effort more)

-TL

Really hard driving our lynch now.

Here’s one person that’s never 8 ball- dann...from what I’ve seen he never gets lynched day 1 so I think we’re all safe going there

Now, does an apparent 180 and suddenly tr us here. But NOW wants to push us because we’re 100% never the target.

If TD can’t push our mislynch by convincingly casing us as scum, he’s apparently good with casing us with NOT being the 8 ball.

So @TD, how did we go from your #1 sr to your #1 8 ball pick? Kind of sudden turnaround, wouldn’t you say?

~Nancy

@Fuscosco

[NanceFloor]

If his push is weak then he will be lynched eventually. its too early to focus on one person only. it stymies progress, and we have enough of that rn

Well I’m sorry, it’s unusual for me to have even one sr on D1. I’m not going to sr anyone before I feel very confident about it. Other than TD, i’m iffy on any slots I’m not currently tr.

Clemency may also be town. I’m more of a townblock builder on D1 than a scumhunter unless a scumslot pretty much just jumps out at me. I keep imploring TD to show me why he’s town here and he just keeps tanking at it, so what am I supposed to do with that?

~Nancy the frustrated

[NanceFloor]

One half of mafia is finding scum. the other half is convincing everyone else you are right

Well, I’ve made my case and if you don’t see it, there’s really not much else I can do, is there?

[NanceFloor]

Cant go after every jerkhead who picks a bone with you.

I didn’t care for Chenn’s push on us either but at least his tone seems better.

The issue which is frustrating me because it continues to be ignored is that TD initially sr us, then tr us and insisted we couldn’t possibly be scum’s pick for 8 ball and when we called him out on his bs, he went right back to insisting we were scum. My point from the beginning has been, that their entire progression on us has been illogical and faked. TD just wants to push us for any damned reason they can pull put of their ass. basically.

~ND

Sorry mod.

[NanceFloor]

oh hi cerb

[NanceFloor]

Inclined to say Time Devil is town too

Why?

[NanceFloor]

Nancy, what do you mean you have an single scumread?

I mean TD is the slot I feel most confident of and if they want me to unvote them, they’ll have to do a helluva a lot better than call me either “caught scum or wolf” every goddamned time they refer to our slot. At the very least, they need to come up with something substantial like you know, actual reasons? Have they even given any yet because I’m almost positive I missed it.

[NanceFloor]

Hot take: mbaki is scum

Why? Because of that list?

Anyway, Creature may be town.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I'll get to

Dann's

reads soon, I can't be lengthy as I'm about to go out.

Fusc

, are you new to mafia?

IE, you aren't an alt nor do you have any play experience with mafia prior to your joindate.

mbaki

, I replied to one of your posts in 812, do you intend to answer that?

If I thought Chennisden was scum, I would be voting them. They are and have been closer to town. Just, if they are scum, there is good partner equity for Dann, who I also do not have as a town read.

I am holding my reads as much as I can. I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.

If you think

Chenn

is closer to town, why did you bring up an idea of them being SvS with

Dann

? You don't scumread them independently?

I do not intend to answer it. It is not the only one of your questions to me I have ignored, friend.

Why would you ignore Taly’s questions?

This is a perfectly reasonable question.

[NanceFloor]

@Creature

Page 33, namely because I responded to all the posts from pages 21-33 that got my attention, and I interacted with

Nancefloor

more, who is/was a scumread.

((Not verifying this read at the moment.))

you can also look at page 31, thats another set of eyes on

ank

since they're generally not a clear read. +a half-assed readslist I did.

also, any page that helped you conclude

mbaki

is scum would be something I'd like to know about.

p-edit

I'll get to

Dann's

reads soon, I can't be lengthy as I'm about to go out.

Fusc

, are you new to mafia?

IE, you aren't an alt nor do you have any play experience with mafia prior to your joindate.

mbaki

, I replied to one of your posts in 812, do you intend to answer that?

If I thought Chennisden was scum, I would be voting them. They are and have been closer to town. Just, if they are scum, there is good partner equity for Dann, who I also do not have as a town read.

I am holding my reads as much as I can. I am town, and it is a waste to pursue me right now.

If you think

Chenn

is closer to town, why did you bring up an idea of them being SvS with

Dann

? You don't scumread them independently?

I do not intend to answer it. It is not the only one of your questions to me I have ignored, friend.

it's better than giving a half-baked, shitty answer, amirite?

I need to go. You plan to vote either tonight or tomorrow, yes?

How are you still sr us here Taly? I really don’t understand this at all. I hope we don’t need to flip before you figure out how off your read on us is. How did your ability to read me get so wrong after SC2 ?

I am playing the exact same way here. Just open up your eyes. You can’t miss it.

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: Time Devil

I can’t see how this is town.

Why?

How many times do I keep having to answer this?

[NanceFloor]

Overkill hasn't broken out of their standard of content whilst shadowless appears to have. I think there is higher scum equity with shadow than overkill

Well if they don’t give any content soon, that doesn’t look good.

[NanceFloor]

I just realized I have eight townreads

We should definitely be one of them.

[NanceFloor]

Spoiler: 0verki11 notable posts

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

VOTE: Mbaki
idk if this is scum 8ball its still a good lynch for town

This is a wolfy perspective because I think scum are more likely to be focused on the 8-ball setup because it's more important for them to lynch it

I have 2 reads already with decent confidence.

VOTE: 8ball

I now have 4 reads.

The mentioning of reads but no shareing seems useless.

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OkaPoka
Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
Shoshin
Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
Creature***
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11

We are lynching on this list today. No, not being here does not necessarily mean a town read. If you vote off this list I will be irritated.

Trying to control votes so early on despite not doing much themselves + no real reasoning at all.

I thought Chennis was town; he was not on my original lynch list (separate statements). I just dislike his play/style. Honestly, I'm very disappointed at this playerlist, I was much happier with the first one. If I noticed how much it changed I probably would not have stayed in.

Like wolfy af, lynching someone because you dont agree with their playstyle is unneeded

We have 4 days. Please relax Chen.

Oka lynch is cool. I

think

Shadow is town, for some pretty garbage reasons.

I am not placing a vote. I will be voting by end of day, do not worry.

Disagree with Shadow read, and I dont see a reason not to vote

I don't like the vote for one post+case later thing at all tbh

Yeah I don't really like the slot, plus overall seems less aggressive than I've seen them lately.

Dann and me aren’t seeing eye to eye on this but he says he has meta with them and him and me are also not seeing eye to eye on you either.

[NanceFloor]

My point from the beginning has been, that their entire progression on us has been illogical and faked. TD just wants to push us for any damned reason they can pull put of their ass. basically.

~ND

Do you think theyre the best choice today? Who else would be acceptable? Could we cop them up tomorrow instead?

I don’t know yet, I’m sorry. I guess anyone I’m not tl yet?

[NanceFloor]

i'll townread you if you agree to sheep me today unconditionally and tomorrow as well if i hit scum today

sounds great to me

who do we vote

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

ok nancefloor ima tell this to you straight

ur basically guiltied scum

but if you let me leash your vote i will spare your life and lynch you last

how does that sound

No, I’m not fucking guiltied anything and if you are really this horrible at reading me than fucking mislynch me. I’m flaming town here and you can buy a freaking clue. I’m really getting pissed at this. You do whatever the fuck you like. If you can’t figure out I’m town here, then don’t even bother to talk to me. I can’t speak for Dann but I’m not putting up with this crap.

[NanceFloor]

time devil is locktown to me.

Based on what? Are you insane?

[NanceFloor]

{RC}
{TD, Chennis, Taly}
{Okapoka}
{MBaki, BEF, Shadowless}

other people

Switch me with TD.

[NanceFloor]

i'll townread you if you agree to sheep me today unconditionally and tomorrow as well if i hit scum today

I’m not doing jack until you fucking read me correctly.

[NanceFloor]

i'm not actually scumreading you

i'm not even trying to read you right now

I don’t understand. You’re trolling me just like last time. :/

I thought that might be the case but then Taly is so horribly off, so I’m losing confidence in a lot of people I expect to be able to correctly read me here.

I’m not opposed to sheeping you, so long as it isn’t anyone I’m currently tl. I vehemently disagree with you on TD but I won’t push it, I will settle for bragging rights in the dead thread, because no one listens to my reads anyway, until they’re proven right. :/

~ND

[NanceFloor]

I interacted with

Nancefloor

more, who is/was a scumread.

((Not verifying this read at the moment.))

How are you still sr us here Taly? I really don’t understand this at all. I hope we don’t need to flip before you figure out how off your read on us is. How did your ability to read me get so wrong after SC2 ?

I am playing the exact same way here. Just open up your eyes. You can’t miss it.

What part of the bolded did you not understand?

This is just funny at this point.

Are you sr us or not? I’m not following. I don’t think you’d troll me like RC though.

[NanceFloor]

I'm not trolling you. I wanted to see how you'd react.

Well I know I’m town and hopefully most people realize that sooner than later.

I don’t always obvtown on D1 but by D3 or definitely 4, my towniness will be positively blinding. That’s how obvious it will be. Money back guarantee.

[NanceFloor]

I'M NOT GIVING A DEFINITIVE READ YET BECAUSE I AM STILL SORTING.

I'M NOT GIVING A DEFINITIVE READ YET BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE'S READS PROGRESS BEFORE I MAKE A FURTHER ASSESSMENT.

STOP PULLING MY TEETH FOR AN ANSWER THAT I'VE SAID I WON'T GIVE YET.

The more you focus on ONLY interacting with me BECAUSE of my read on YOU, the MORE I am DISTRACTED from evaluating BOTH OF YOUR HEADS so I can have a better understanding of BOTH of your approaches this game OUTSIDE OF JUST A READ.

I'm not mad at you

Nancy

, but I do not have any other clue as to how I can make this clearer.

Talk to me

(or about me)

around something else OTHER than my read on you, or leave me be.

I'm done trying to explain myself to you. I want to speak with

Dann

and reply to readslist as he's expressed a desire to do for me, as I also want to focus on other slots and gather a stronger idea of the playerlist before deadline. I don't have time or interest in this.

If you want to talk to me about other things than your read on me, who’s stopping you? Not me. Ask away.

[NanceFloor]

.o/

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

dann do something dann would do

So I kinda forgot the game was happening, but I've played this setup a couple times in sitechat before, (and modded them, too) and usually it doesn't matter who gets lynched first, just because if you get town, you get a confirmed townie, and most of the time by the first couple minutes based on who's working with who and so on and so forth. I saw the votecount and it looked like it was him or you. I knew if I voted you I'd either get scum and p much win, or I'd get town and you'd shoot him (killing scum). That's how it goes pretty much every time. So I flipped a coin that would only land heads up.

I get this setup mixed up a lot, though, with SS3 (and also every time I skim this I think townies are perma one-shot lynchproof) which is why I posted like I did at beginning of day 2. I know you know I'm town, cuz if you didn't think I was, you'd have shot me yesterday. Let's lynch RC and win this thing for the homies?

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: tmck

[NanceFloor]

nancy

post kitty or puppy gifs

dann

do something

dann

would do

kittybells

make me question my life decisions and then reaffirm me

mbaki

meme bully me

[NanceFloor]

Nah, pretty sure they never looked at their PM, that's why I replaced them. Fresh start.

How could you possibly know that?

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Also, scum most definitely 8 balled RC I'm calling that right now

Why? RC was in the last incarnation of this setup and he wasn’t 8 balled in that one.

[NanceFloor]

there are worse slots than oka by far rn

UNVOTE:

I really don’t understand why you’re sr him.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

Ouch, Nancy is mad at me

Hi Taly .o/

I supplied my vote without context because I like to see reactions to naked votes and I can always add full transparency later.

Why specifically did you find our vote the most interesting to poke at/sort out of the Okapoka votes?

- Dann

No, I’m not, I just assumed you mentioned your reasons. Please do it in the future.

Or if you naked vote for reactions, please give me the heads up first.

~N

I'm probably overthinking this, but it's weird that this took place out
side of the PT

Why is it weird? Dann told me on DM that he voted Oka and he gave the reasons, so I just assumed he would have mentioned that here.

Or maybe it’s just Dann. <3

[NanceFloor]

BEF is town.

[NanceFloor]

Bright eyed fish is obvscum

Based on what?

[NanceFloor]

why is bef town nance

gotcha

That was the Dannflor

I sort of already explained it in 846. But essentially, what you're reading as too self-conscious I'm reading as lost!town. It's not a super strong read but I don't see scum.

- Floor

[NanceFloor]

normally i would tunnel you for opportunistically using shadowlessclouds

but here its more towny because a no lynch is terrible.

I think Chenn is town for this.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

Why BEF?

[NanceFloor]

bad vote.

+1

[NanceFloor]

VOTE: chennisden

I don't have any experience with chennisden and I don't want to jump on okas wagon, so I'm placing my vote there.

Feel free to sheep me unless you have reason to believe scum put the 8ball there. If so let us know.

My Chen vote has nothing to do with a SR or activity. It just feels like a safe place to lynch. IMO, a mislynch > an 8ball lynch.

guys.

You obviously have never played with BEF before.

[NanceFloor]

BEF is town.

why is bef town nance

That was Dann.

He just seems really natural and unrehearsed. He reads likes he’s trying to figure out stuff as he goes along. Like he makes votes but he really isn’t pushing anything,

[NanceFloor]

ive played one game with bef town so take that fwiw

but that game he at least had reads

Well maybe? His posting feels kind of natural. He is less active than usual but I don’t know if that’s scum indicative. I still think he’s town.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

BEF is town.

why is bef town nance

That was Dann.

He just seems really natural and unrehearsed. He reads likes he’s trying to figure out stuff as he goes along.

Like he makes votes

(1)

but

he really isn’t pushing anything

(2)

,

(1) his last vote is in the 350s. wrong.
(2) how is this town? especially with 8ball pushing nothing is scum!

Why is pushing nothing is scum with the 8 ball? Don’t you think scum would be way more likely to try to push a lynch, unless they did the same thing as momo.

~ND

[NanceFloor]

the second best option for scum is a no-lynch. its much safer.

it also gives them two NKs.

Oh? I thought that only happened if they hit 8 ball. Okay then we absolutely can’t no lynch. Dann didn’t seem to be aware of this either since I was postulating if no lynch guarantees we don’t hit the 8 ball but then I guess that would have been way too easy.

So, then yeah agree with Chen then, mislynch > than no lynch but I’d rather hit someone I think is scum but I’ll vote to prevent a no lynch, if that’s the case.

~ND