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So how shall we go about mass claim?
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Some character actions resolve before other people's actions at night. Everything does not happen at the same timeStarwingBeauvoi wrote:I do not know what I a doing here, why I am doing here, or even who I am doing here. How do we play?
First question is comprehensible. The second I do not follow.In post 26, PokerFace wrote:So how shall we go about mass claim?
Claim in order of which your role acts at night or some other order?
Based on the outlined roles I believe our action resolution order at night is Seer, then Robber, then Troublemaker. Hunter, villager and werewolves won't claim actions
I was suggesting we go seer, then robber, then trouble BUT if seer checked the center then it better to go robber, trouble, seer. Robber stealing from scum is bad to deal with. Having them claim first to avoid that is often good. Trouble should not go before Robber since Trouble acts after robber during the night and is the main counter to a robber that becomes scum. Trouble can turn them back to town or be used to combo us toward scum.
With all this in mind I think if you are a villager you should claim first. Lock you in to doing nothing so you can't say you are something more useful later like a lying wolf. Then we have robber. Then we have seer or trouble pending if seer saw center or someone else's. Maybe we have seer always go after trouble? Not sure
I don't think hunters should claim at moment, wolves knowing who is hunter is bad. So if you are one of those, I guess you should claim villager. A villager changing their claim to hunter isn't a problem since we will just lynch the hunter anyway. And if they real hunter hopefully they can take the wolf with them to their graveWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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By the way just cause i suggested it, does not mean you should out yourself as villager now before everyone can way in on if my plan is the right idea or not.
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It matters for basically the same reason it matters in most games. If town Y can counter or ruin a scumy claim from wolf x, then y should claim after x
Otherwise if x gets to hear y's claim first, then x can adjust their claim so y does not catch x
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If scum wants to fake claims robber, there's a risk they have to take. Trouble acts after robber. Scum can say they were robber and stole from a player. BUT as trouble acts after that, trouble could have made them a completely different player later on. The guy that thinks he is scum, may actually now be town.
If a real robber steals from scum, thus becomes scum, there's a risk they have to take. Trouble acts after robber. Robber may have become scum, BUT is he still scum? Trouble could have switched the scum back to town.
Trouble maker doesn't give direct info, it gives indirect info. It says where a role has gone, not what a role is. Let's say Adam is a villager. Bob is a robber. Carl is a wolf. Doug is a trouble maker. Eric is the hunter. The robber steals from the wolf during the night. So Bob is now scum. He plays the game to his new win condition. Adam has already claimed villager. So Bob claims robber but lies and says he stole from Adam. Doug claims and says he switched Bob with Eric. Bob now realizes he is no longer scum, he is Eric's role. And Eric became scum. Bob comes forward with this new info. Town lynches Eric for the win.
As things stand someone that started the game as scum or as robber, doesn't truly know what their alignment is right now. They could be anything if the trouble maker switched them. If you don't know what role you are, will you take a big risk or a little risk with your claim? What benefits any player the most is the tell the truth so people can figure out who is what correctly and lynch the right person.
With this in mind do we want to claim rolenamesfirst in any order? Then claimtargetsin order of robber, trouble, seer? Or would claimtargetsin order of robber, seer, trouble be better?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Thought about things some more. If everyone says onlywhatthey are before seer comes forward, its a good thing. (Don't say what you did targetwise last night)
If seer later says they checked a person or they checked the center, what the seer saw could out a liar from the previous name claims.
Something else of note a solo wolf can easily fake seer since a solo wolf gets to see one of the center cards.
With that in mind I think we give names only. Then we go robber, seer, trouble with target info.
In case you could not guess by all my talking.I am the trouble maker.
Me saying my name before we know if there is a seer is good for the town as I can't lie right now about being the trouble maker.
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yes please give role name onlyWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Robber needs to give actions first based on what I said earlier
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Looked back on what I wrote before and remember now. The reason I think seer needs to go before trouble is as follows.
Seer is a role a solo werewolf can fake fairly easily. A solo werewolf gets to check a single card in the center so they can fake seer by lying about what the second card is.
Also let's say the seer checked another player and saw another player as wolf. If the trouble claims first and says they switched the seer with the wolf player, the seer will realize they are now scum and lie about their real night actions. This lie could ruin the town's chances big time.
As things stand a solo werewolf that faked seer and an actual player that started as seer doesn't know if they still are what they started as until the trouble says who they switched. Because that player doesn't 100% know what they are now, its better trouble goes after them so we can catch them in a lie, in the event of the previous scenarios.
A seer that became wolf could now be found out. And a wolf that became town will immediately out what they were so we can catch the new wolf.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Well I claimed troublemaker before everyone had claimed. Before robber and seer had claimed. If I started the game as wolf, that means I took a risk claiming before any other power had been outed
If two wolves I took a risk that no one would claim trouble or seer moving forward since those could out me.
If I started as a solo wolf that looked at a card in the center and saw trouble maker, then I took risk that there was no seer. Or seer didn't see the same thing I saw in the center
Also if I am a solo wolf, its very possible the robber stole from me. I could be town right now without knowing it.
The only way I'd be taking no risk at all, would be if I was wolf with both chem and Allo and since that's against the rules. I would have had to take one of these risks as wolf.
I don't like taking risks. Telling the truth is best way for me to avoid risk. Especially since a wolf me could be town right now without knowing it.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Unless you disagree with my logic, yes you should claimWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Chemist needs to claim targets and results thenWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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As looking at the center results in seeing 2 cards and looking at a player results in seeing 1, I always go for the 2 when I am seer. Especially since the player could get their alignment changed by other roles.
Guess its my turn. I switched BuJaber and Allomancer
Because of the robbing
Allo became what TK was
And TK became what Allo was
After the trouble making
Allo became what BuJaber was
and BuJaber became what TK was
So currently
Allo => Bujaber => Villager
TK => Allo => Robber
BuJaber => TK => Villager
This assumes^ the 3 of you all told the truth. If 1 of the 3 of you lied and started as a wolf, then you are now town and need to tell us who became wolf
Since all 3 of you couldn't have started as wolf, we should now either have 3 confirmed town or a confirmed wolf because of someone's lies. So did you all tell the truth or not?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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to clarify, you are saying you told the truth?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Waiting on allo and TK to clarify the same then
If they do then unconfirmed players are me, chem, and the center (Its possible all wolves are in the center, but I doubt that)When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Odd, so you are saying BuJaber started the game as wolf, you became wolf, and now you are not wolf?
if BuJabber started the game as wolf then why did he not claim he was wolf and say tk was now a wolf after I claimed my actions?
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That's obviously directed at Allomancer^When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Actually I confused myself. That should readPokerFace wrote:Odd, so you are saying BuJaber started the game as wolf, you became wolf, and now you are not wolf?
if BuJabber started the game as wolf then why did he not claim he was wolf and say tk was now a wolf after I claimed my actions?
He had the opportunity to do that in post 83 or 85? So why didn't he?
based on what I wrote in viewtopic.php?p=10899827#p10899827PokerFace wrote:Odd, so you are saying BuJaber started the game as wolf, you became wolf, and now you are not wolf?
if BuJabber started the game as wolf then why did he not claim he was wolf and sayAllowas now a wolf after I claimed my actions?
He had the opportunity to do that in post 83 or 85? So why didn't he?
Allo would become what Bujaber was
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Could you explain how it could be both of them?In post 94, BuJaber wrote:Allo couldn't have taken a wolf from me because I wasn't a wolf.
So if he is claiming that then either he and chemist are lying or he and poker are lying.
Poker could have made up some other lie if he wanted to kill me so badly, so I think it'sAllo and Chemist.
just to be double sure of somethings
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@Chem, any idea why you saw 1 players card instead of 2 in the center?
@BJ, so you are saying Allo was never robber. You are saying he started as wolf.
I find this to be more likely since BuJaber did not out Allo in 83 or 85
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I was hoping you would say something akin to "Dang I guess I didn't realize I could look at 2 in the center" Forget you subbed in, stick to your guns with a fake claim and thus out yourself.Chemist1422 wrote:
NopeIn post 97, PokerFace wrote:@Chem, any idea why you saw 1 players card instead of 2 in the center?
@BJ, so you are saying Allo was never robber. You are saying he started as wolf.
I find this to be more likely since BuJaber did not out Allo in 83 or 85
BUT if Allo did start as wolf, then I still troubled you two. And BuJaber would now be wolf and Allo would be villager
This is why I hate subbing in
But that doesn't matter, action order suggests BuJaber is wolf, only need to find one wolf. Anything else you all feel we should talk about?
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I don't have anything new to say. BuJaber is wolf
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Makes sense^ given your play. GG.
Chemist's claim made me think he was wolf with how 'safe' he made his lie. A solo wolf gets to see a card in the center while two wolves don't. So it makes sense Chem would also be a wolf.
Night actions really controlled the games outcome. Kinda funny that I switched things back to catch BuJaber. I think it would have been funnier if I switched Allo and Starwing/Chemist. Yes, that would result in them both being wolves. BUT neither would have known that for certain or known the other was also a wolf. Allo could have thought he was really a seer and outed chemist. Chemist could have thought he was a villager(tk) and outed Allo. Chaos would have ensued!When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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That^ is not entirely true if you are the trouble maker. As you can not make yourself wolf or have someone else make you a wolf, you can't change alignment during the game
As the trouble maker the correct play is to claim trouble early and give actions late. If you are not counter claimed or you are confirmed town by other actions, you may lie about your targets. If there is at least 1 claimed robber you should say you switched the robber even if you did not. Say you switched them with the scummiest other player or say who you really switched them with. If done effectively, you should be able to determine if they robbed a wolf during the night. If they robbed a wolf, figure out who currently is wolf and lynch that player. If they did not rob a wolf, then if necessary, tell the truth to find out who really is a wolf and lynch that player.
Now that I have realized this^ I think correct play would have been lying that I switched Allo and Chem. BuJaber's play was fine while Chem's fake claim was scumy. Getting Allo and Chem to out each other would have been correct move. Bujaber 'should' have then corroborated that Chem started as scum and that there were two scum. Once all that info was out in the open, I would not need to say I lied about who I switched. TK and myself would vote Chem. Allo would vote me or chem. Chem would vote me or Allo. Bujaber thinking himself as town would now vote either Allo or Chem. Ideal town play dictates that you should lynch as may players as possible. Killing a town player does not matter as long as you also kill a wolf. 4-2 votes would be on Chem. 2-0 votes would be on me. 2-0 votes would be on allo. Chem would have most votes or tied for most so they would be lynched and town would win.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I think that^ is only true if you start as wolf
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That^ sounds about right
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