Dayless Everyone is a Serial Killer! (Game Over)

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Post Post #0  (isolation #0)  » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:32 pm

Dayless Everyone is a Serial Killer!

The Rules, Stolen from shaft.ed, TSQ, Mr. Stoofer, Flameaxe, Jdodge:
00. I reserve the right to edit these rules at any time should something truly unexpected occur.
01. All votes must be made bold. Unvoting is not required but I heavily perfer it. Any attempts at disguising your voting will be prohibited. If its treated as a vote and I think its a vote, its a vote!
02. A majority of votes is required to lynch. If there is a lynch, no amount of bitching will prevent the lynch from happening. I am a moderator, not a charity.

03. When you live, live well. Live long. Prosper. When you're dead, shut up. Don't post or even pm me. Lie in a grave/furnace/corpse pile. Rot.
04. All days have a 7 day deadline. All nights have a 2-3 day deadline. The thread will not lock during night given the nature of this game. No votes will be counted at night but you are welcome to wifom and make alliances as you please.
05. This isn't technically mafia. There is no informed minority or uninformed majority. Every player really is an SK.
06. Every player must send a kill and a protect at each night. You can not protect yourself. If you do not send an action at night, you will protect no one and kill yourself.

07. Don't talk to each other outside of the game thread.
08. No small, encrypted or invisible text. Don’t edit/delete previously submitted posts. I will modkill you if you do this, and you will lose the game.
09. This is a game. Have fun and respect the other players. Don't do things that will result in site bans please.
10. If it seems like it should be illegal, it probably is. Considering the fact rules sometimes can't cover everything. Please use your common sense. PM me if you think something you are about to do could break the rules or possibly ruin the game.
11. I am human. If I mess up and make a mod error that results in you legitimately losing the game, then I will give you a technical auto-win at the end of the game to make up for it.
12. This game will start with a night phase. This should allow every player a chance to send their first night actions before any player gets lynched
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Post Post #1  (isolation #1)  » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:32 pm

This time the game will be dayless. NO LYNCHING. Super Kill is only anti-stalemate mechanic in use

This game has been run before and approved to run in the mish mash forum.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=72658

Previous runnings of this game
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=35634
viewtopic.php?f=57&t=35733
viewtopic.php?f=83&t=61250
viewtopic.php?f=63&t=72921
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=75835

Attempted running of this exact game
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=78862

Everyone's Role PM wrote:You and everyone else in the game is a serial killer. Each night you must send a kill choice and a protect choice. You can not choose to protect yourself. If you do not send a protect of another player, you will die that night. Death by these means can not be prevented. No communication outside of the game thread. You can post in thread whenever it is unlocked. All deaths will be revealed as "XXX has died as a serial killer." Carefully pick your victims and make the right alliances to survive as long as you can. Survive to the end of the game and you may win...


Basic Mechanics:
-Every player must send a kill and a protect each night. You can not choose to protect yourself. If you do not send a protect of another player, you will die that night. Death by these means can not be prevented.
-Protects prevent only 1 kill. If you only get protected once and you are targets for 2 or more kills, you are going to die.
-The game will start with night 0 where all players can send a kill and protect

Regulations and Resolutions:
-If 3 or more players are currently alive, the game must continue
-If all players die in the same night, the night is replayed. Each player must change at least one of their actions in some way when the night is replayed. If you do not change at least one of your actions, you will die that night. This death can not be prevented

End Game Mechanics:
-If only 1 player is currently alive, that player wins the game
-If only 2 players are alive then we go directly to the Final Phase. Both living players must send me a choice, Shoot or Truce. If both players truce, they share the win. If one shoots and the other sends truce, the shooter wins. If both shoot, all currently dead players win, both shooters lose.

Anti-Stalemate Mechanics (Select At Least One): Using option B. Game will be Dayless

Option A. Enforced Lynching

-Game has both a day and a night phase. Game will not be locked during either phase. Players can continue to talk during each phase. During the day a majority vote will result in a player's lynch. If a majority is not reached, the player with the most votes will be lynched. Should there be a tie for most votes, lynch the player that got most votes first.


Option B. Super Kill

-A Day phase WON'T HAPPEN may or may not exist. During the Night phase, if a player receives the most protects or is tied for the most protects at night, their kill is super charged! It will succeed regardless of how many protects are in its way!
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Post Post #2  (isolation #2)  » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:34 pm

FAQ:
Q: Is this a Mafia Game?
A: There is no Informed Minority Faction or Uninformed Majority Faction built directly into the game. There is no talking outside the game thread. The thread will not be locked during the night either. This game has been approved to be run in the mish mash forum since its not really mafia.

Q. How long will each night last?
A. 2-3 days. If I get all action before 2 days, it will end after 2 days. If it takes longer for me to receive all actions, it will last 3 days. If someone has still not sent in a protect of another player in those 3 days, that player will die. This death can not be prevented.

Q: What if I am gonna be on V/la during the night?
A: Then you should give me V/la notice and or send your choices to me in advance so that you don't kill yourself.

Q. Can I change my actions at night after I have already sent them to you?
A. As long as I get the changes before the night ends, sure.

Players can post in game during the night phases. Game will only be locked if I am in process of writing the end of night scene. If you see the thread locked, you can no longer change your actions for that night. The thread will only be locked for a few minutes. So if you ever see the thread is locked, come back in a few minutes and it won't be. This game has no set player limit.

Main game thread opens for signups Tomorrow. Signups will last one week and then game will begin with a night start

Signups start in: (expired on 2019-04-02 20:00:00)
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Post Post #3  (isolation #3)  » Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:58 pm

Reserved for player listings and reveals

All Players:
01. Elsa Jay
02. the worst
03. Iprobablysuck
04. NotAJumbleOfNumbers
05. Iconeum
06. Nancy Drew 39
07. TheBrie
08. randomidget
09. Irrelephant11
10. animorpherv1

Reveals so far:
Spoiler:

Iconeum has died as a Serial Killer on Night 1
animorpherv1 has died as a Serial Killer on Night 1
Nancy Drew 39 has died as a Serial Killer on Night 1
Elsa Jay has died as a Serial Killer on Night 2
randomidget has died as a Serial Killer on Night 2
Irrelephant11 has died as a Serial Killer on Night 2
NotAJumbleOfNumbers has died as a Serial Killer on Night 3
TheBrie has died as a Serial Killer on Night 4
Iprobablysuck and the worst agree to a Truce on Night 5


Signups end in: (expired on 2019-04-09 20:00:00)
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Post Post #8  (isolation #4)  » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:57 pm

In post 5, Enter wrote:Weeklong signups for an hour long game
/in

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Post Post #17  (isolation #5)  » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:36 am

In post 15, Enter wrote:/out

Sorry to hear that. Only the first post had the typo. Others were fine
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Post Post #20  (isolation #6)  » Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:13 am

In post 18, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 8, PokerFace wrote:
In post 5, Enter wrote:Weeklong signups for an hour long game
/in

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Yeah, this made absolutely no sense to me.

I tend to run these types of games on marathon day given their lack of informed groups and my general lack of time.

When I do run them in the more main stream forums in long formats, I can make rule mistakes in the initial posts. If anyone sees other typos I missed or rules they would like clarified, feel free to bring it up.
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Post Post #23  (isolation #7)  » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:10 pm

I think in the future I give signups less time since they seem to have slowed.

How long do you all generally see signups last for mish mash games these days?

Do you think setting a player limit would encourage people to sign up quicker and lead to better participation and start times?
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Post Post #26  (isolation #8)  » Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:17 pm

In post 25, TheBrie wrote:FYI, I won't be able to play until next weekend. I don't expect that game to be filled before then, but I thought it was best to say.

You do realize our game will start after signups, which ends tomorrow right?
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Post Post #29  (isolation #9)  » Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:07 pm

TheBrie wrote:I hadn't seen the countdown and it wasn't looking like a whole lot of people had signed up.
Options: /out which I'd hate to do.
Presend my shots and get on the once or twice I could. Maybe I'll survive with interacting much. Maybe I would die anyway. Then I'll be back for the next night.

Presending is allowed by the rules. If you want to do that, that's fine.

The first night phase starts tomorrow and will end thursday or friday pending when I get all actions

There are no day phases so calling the first night, night 0 seems off. It will be considered night 1
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Post Post #31  (isolation #10)  » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:59 pm

Night 1

Alive Players:
01. Elsa Jay
02. the worst
03. Iprobablysuck
04. NotAJumbleOfNumbers
05. Iconeum
06. Nancy Drew 39
07. TheBrie
08. randomidget
09. Irrelephant11
10. animorpherv1

Night 1 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-11 20:00:00)

If I get all actions by then. Otherwise it ends at

Night 1 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-12 20:00:00)
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Post Post #53  (isolation #11)  » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:22 am

In post 34, Irrelephant11 wrote:@Mod can a player shoot and protect the same target?

There is no rule against it

If you are trying to manipulate/break the setup so that all players win or all players die there are rules against that though
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Post Post #71  (isolation #12)  » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:02 pm

Players yet to send actions have been prodded
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Post Post #73  (isolation #13)  » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:00 pm

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Post Post #74  (isolation #14)  » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm

Iconeum has died as a Serial Killer
animorpherv1 has died as a Serial Killer
Nancy Drew 39 has died as a Serial Killer


Night 2

Alive Players:
01. Elsa Jay
02. the worst
03. Iprobablysuck
04. NotAJumbleOfNumbers
05. TheBrie
06. randomidget
07. Irrelephant11

Night 2 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-14 20:00:00)

If I get all actions by then. Otherwise it ends at

Night 2 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-15 20:00:00)

It should be noted that I needed to edit the rules during the night to fix an oversight that was in them. Please be sure to re-read the opening posts to make sure you don't miss any change or clarification
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Post Post #75  (isolation #15)  » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm

In post 74, PokerFace wrote:Iconeum has died as a Serial Killer
animorpherv1 has died as a Serial Killer
Nancy Drew 39 has died as a Serial Killer


Night 2

Alive Players:
01. Elsa Jay
02. the worst
03. Iprobablysuck
04. NotAJumbleOfNumbers
05. TheBrie
06. randomidget
07. Irrelephant11

Night 1 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-14 20:00:00)

If I get all actions by then. Otherwise it ends at

Night 1 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-15 20:00:00)

It should be noted that I needed to edit the rules during the night to fix an oversight that was in them. Please be sure to re-read the opening posts to make sure you don't miss any change or clarification

Copying this so it goes to next page top
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Post Post #104  (isolation #16)  » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:43 pm

Players yet to send actions have been prodded
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Post Post #112  (isolation #17)  » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:59 pm


Elsa Jay has died as a Serial Killer
randomidget has died as a Serial Killer
Irrelephant11 has died as a Serial Killer

Night 3

Alive Players:
01. the worst
02. Iprobablysuck
03. NotAJumbleOfNumbers
04. TheBrie

I am gonna be busy on the 17 at 8pm so the day is going to the 18th

Night 3 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-18 20:00:00)
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Post Post #131  (isolation #18)  » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:54 pm

Players yet to send actions have been prodded
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Post Post #132  (isolation #19)  » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:59 pm


NotAJumbleOfNumbers has died as a Serial Killer

Night 4

Alive Players:
01. the worst
02. Iprobablysuck
03. TheBrie

Night 4 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-20 20:00:00)

If I get all actions by then. Otherwise it ends at

Night 4 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-21 20:00:00)

I would appreciate the night ending on the 20th since we all may be a bit pressed for time on the holiday
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Post Post #154  (isolation #20)  » Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:59 pm


TheBrie has died as a Serial Killer

Night 5 - End Game

Alive Players:
01. the worst
02. Iprobablysuck

Send Shoot or Truce

Night 5 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-22 20:00:00)

If I get all actions by then. Otherwise it ends at

Night 5 ends at: (expired on 2019-04-23 20:00:00)
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Post Post #157  (isolation #21)  » Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:30 pm

Let me know if you guys want me to end it once I get both your actions or if I should just wait for the timer
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Post Post #161  (isolation #22)  » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:03 am

The game is over Iprobablysuck and the worst both pmed saying to end it when both actions are recieved

They also both pmed TRUCE. Iprobablysuck and the worst win

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Post Post #166  (isolation #23)  » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:49 pm

To be honest there is one new rule I am considering. Winner is player with most kills.

This rule would give value to players not in an alliance and possibly lead to someone choosing shoot over truce in the event they think they don't have most kills at game end.
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Post Post #169  (isolation #24)  » Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:36 am

In post 167, TheBrie wrote:Playing with that rules still encourages surviving and making alliances, because, afterall, if you die the first night, there's no way you'll have the most kills. Yet it also encourages you to be more strategic with your protects, because you have incentive to stop any kill that's not from you.

I'd certainly like to trial it.

Actually now that I think of it, my idea could be counter intuitive.

Let's say we have two players alive after a long game. If one does not think they have the same number of kills, the ideal play is to shoot. This could lead to a player with lesser kills killing the current kill leader because the kill leader chose truce. BUT I think its more likely they'll both die. A kill leader has every reason to kill again when they have the lead. Especially since the game would overall encourage more killing.

So inevitably its much more likely both will die, which would lead to everyone else winning. Everyone with lesser kills would win while the two players that probably have the most would lose. So my idea is not a good one in this regard.

So instead, I think it best things remain simpler....
-You get to the end as the only player, you win without having to choose shoot or truce.
-You get the end with someone else, you both win if you select truce regardless of kill counts. If one of you selects shoot and the other selects truce then only the shooter wins
-If those in the end game all choose to shoot then all those that failed to make it to end game will win
-AND lastly the only new rule I will add, if you don't survive the game, but somehow have the most kills, you will win with anyone else who has also wins

With these rules^ its now possible to have 1 winner, 2 winners, 3 winners or have everyone win. I think that's good
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Post Post #170  (isolation #25)  » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:41 am

Had that change already been in our game, Iprobablysuck and the worst both would have won by being the final survivors

BUT there could have been more winners. Iprobablysuck and the worst each had the same number of kills. If they both shot in the end, all dead player would have won. AND since that mechanic reads "If you don't survive the game, but somehow have the most kills, you will win with anyone else who has also wins" that would have meant Iprobablysuck and the worst would still win despite dying to each others hands. In a scenario like that ALL PLAYERS WOULD WIN!
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