Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Dannflor]

If you want to lynch RC, maybe, I dunno, case him?

He's not really trying

He'd have an easier time casing Max too but "resistance"

I doesn't matter if he's on V/LA or doesn't have time he would still come up with better reasons to push RC than "it could be scum."

DDL, if you're town here this is a bad play. I don't think you actually believe what you're pushing.

At least explain why max-scum is correlated to RC-scum?

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so it's not a free lynch

it's just throwing the game

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well he got out the lynch using similar methods yesterday lmao

might as well try again

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meh, at least people will think about it tomorrow so that's a plus

you're smarter than this

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can I take the Enter role of writing an essay about how this will actually flip scum

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so this is probably a loss then :/

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ddl I can't take anymore twilight trolling are you serious

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can I take the Enter role of writing an essay about how this will actually flip scum

so this is probably a loss then :/

ddl I can't take anymore twilight trolling are you serious

This is fake :<

Vedith you need to reevaluate me

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Okay let me re read these 800 posts...

I mean if you have any cares left for this game, yes.

Both you and RC played with me in my most recent scum game and I'm so far outside of my scum range here it's not even funny.

Like, I know that's a defense that means absolutely nothing coming from myself, but I still think it's true.

In my scum game I literally had to wait until late at night when everyone had gone to bed to post a bunch because I literally couldn't bring myself to directly interact with people in the thread. My content was the bare minimum I needed to imitate my town game.

I really don't think I have the capacity to fake the amount of real time interactions and solving I've done this game, not over 200 pages and certainly not over 800 posts

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I don't know

I'm working on trying to figure that out

[Dannflor]

Akarin
Ankamius
Saudade
Tohru
RC

is my top tier currently

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I think I'm like as close to 100% on all of those as I'm going to get

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It's not ordered

I'm double checking all of those rnow but they're all at the same level of very very very close to certain these are town

[Dannflor]

Tohru
Akarin
RC
Saudade
Ankamius

Is the order with most towny at the top, though all of these are pretty close imo

[Dannflor]

Okay great, so Ank if 5th for me and Akarin 4th.
So if theres a deep wolf as people say, we're agreed its Ank right?

A problem I have with that is that I think either RC and Enter would have expressed more suspicion of Ank if that was a possibility, and they can't both be scum.

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Vedith, why don't you think an xtoxm/Max team makes sense?

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@Jingle, what is your read on Max?

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ok so presumably one lynch left tomorrow

who do you want to lynch most out of me/xtoxm/max

who do you want to lynch least

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I'll be home this evening to present my solve

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I’ll tell you a secret it’s not max/xtoxm

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Don't say me.

it's not you either!

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does anyone want me to post color coded VCs in the main thread

I'm finally getting around to doing it

I'm also doing that later maybe we'll sync up

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ank you would do the game a favor if you stopped trying to make reads.

are my reads wrong?

yes

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I'm eating rnow but I'll be on in an ~hour

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Hello Jingle, what do you think are the odds of you having being doused during any point of the game.

@Town, what do you think are the odds of Jingle, if he is town, being doused already?

Quote this post and give me a direct answer, please.

low

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VOTE: xtoxm


Baaaaaa.

To be clear, you'd hate to lose to scum!xtoxm over scum!me?

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Xtoxm idk why you townread dann tbh

Max idk why you scumread dann tbh

[Dannflor]

No one in:

Akarin
Ankamius
RadiantCowbells
Tohru
Psyche
Saudade

is ever scum. Within 99% certainty.

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I'm also basically 90% on Vedith town.

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I'm more likely to have been doused than Jingle and I've been a possible mislynch since forever.

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xtoxm would you hear out my Ank/RC town cases

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btw from my perspective Max is 99% scum

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ok fuck it

@xtoxm

Spoiler: RC is town

RC being a good scum player does not take away from his ability to town tell.

First, the fact that RC felt the need to move from his meme alt-account in Prince of Renais to his main account in order to try hard is ++equity town. If he's scum, he doesn't need to do that to win. It points to him being town and frustrated enough to start really trying.

This is a town response that RC has no need to confront as directly as he did if scum:

Can people please read and understand posts before they comment on them?

There's no shame in asking for clarification.

Also I'm sorry but if prince did what he did as scum it would be horribly immoral so he's conftown now.

don't agree with this reason to townread me. if I were scum I would have been equally as hurt by the rape comment.
I don't appreciate the implication that there was anything AI in my actions even if it leads you to a correct townread on me.

This whole sequence is genuine. I don't think RC comes to the conclusion that he needs to hard bus in order to win the game only 300 posts after he replaced in. It could possibly be the case if grapes was setting up bad associatives with him or something of the sort. However, grapes posts twice during that time frame and doesn't even mention Prince, so that seems unlikely. Especially as RC was undercover in his alt at the time, he had no need to hard bus to set himself up to endgame only because of paranoia. He could just rely on obv towning.

let's lynch grapes?

VOTE: clemency

think this is better actually

maybe not?

NO
never happened

VOTE: grapes

OMG NSG NO

RC's attitude replacing in on his main is town putting on try hard pants and not scum trying to cement their position as deep wolf. It's clear RC cares a lot more about his town games than his scum games these days. His good scum games make his time on this site objectively less pleasant. Him replacing in on his main to try hard is

not

congruent with that.

Maybe I'm biased about this but the lowkey sorting jam session Enter/RC/Myself all had around page 200 reeks town from everyone.

There is also evidence that RC didn't know what either Shoshin or DDL's alignments were before the flips.

i really just want to see a flip though.

i'm pretty sure shoshin hates me regardless of her alignment so

poorly worded: I'm pretty sure shoshin is pissed off at me regardless of her alignment.

i really want to see shoshin's flip for personal reasons tbh.

like this is nothing to do with the game or my wincondition really but I would like to know what alignment Shoshin was in this game.

no

i'm not sorry if this is wrong.

what odds would you give that OR is just trolling us

I don't think either or these, especially the Shoshin posts are faked.

RC is 99% town

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@xtoxm

Spoiler: ank is town

Not only do I think either RC or Enter would have been able to pick up on any possible scum!Ankamius vibes, I think I should have been able to as well. If I can convince you RC is town I think you have to believe Ank is town here too. Enter is also 100% town and knows her well as a player pretty sure

I initially scum read her on her entrance for empty questioning, but she has been solving ever since then. I think her apathy in the last few day phases fits exactly what I would expect from a town!Ank as well. I'd be very impressed if she was able to fake the amount of sorting she's done as it has been nearly on the level of Enter's sorting for certain parts of the game.

The most specific evidence I can give from my perspective for town Ank is her shift in read on me:

Dann is town because I believe I've seen enough of his personality over discord to have a read on how his towngame and scumgame would differ, and this really doesn't look different from merchant's daughter in those specific ways

This change from having me in her PoE is just completely unnecessary from a scum PoV. There's really no reason to fight for me to be taken out of the PoE. It's also one of those oddly specific reads that's just a little too detailed to be faked.

Also side note but I really don't think tonally that this post comes from scum!Ank but it might not mean anything to you:

ank I think you're town and I don't hate that you're town

if that helps

:3

I feel fuzzy inside

like actually read her ISO and tell me if you think it's faked, don't just count how many mislynches she's been on

I came into the day thinking Jingle/Max

but you are pushing town

and you've been pushing town all game

i hope town you is smart enough to realize this

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Jingle/Max

hey I lol'd Ank saying Jingle + Dannflor was a possibility

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realistically all of akarin, ankamius, radiantcowbells, tohru, psyche, saudade, and Vedith to a slightly lesser degree should all be considered treestumped town for today

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literally fuck off dann
you sr 5 consecutive town lynches
i tr 5 consecutive town lynches
you are the one whos been pushing town all game

do you genuinely believe rc is scum here

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No, I don't believe that.

I don't believe he reads my case on Formerfish/DDL from a couple days ago, seriously considers it, and starts changing his reads on FF and myself but now refuses to reconsider me or both of you.

I just have paranoia about Jingle, but I need to trust the reads of the people I believe are conf-town.

And in that case it really is just xtoxm/Max.

VOTE: xtoxm

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I think Vedith is town

If Jingle is scum I’m pretty sure his partner is Max

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VOTE: Jingle

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oof

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i am very bad

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gg

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I think I need to stop town casing the scum team in lylo

bad habit

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well played both of you

was killing grapes D1 intentional or did it just sort of happen?

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xtoxm is going to have a field day

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thanks for modding nsg

I had fun through it all despite everything

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grapes was super 100% not going to reach endgame and if he's not making endgame there's no advantage to lynching him later rather than sooner.

makes sense

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It doesn't give an extra lynch unless you get two doused players, right

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i dunno what dannflor's alignment is and I'm not sure what that means.

psure this was the only time during the whole game I had a flicker of serious doubt about RC's alignment but I ended up shrugging it off

would you have town read me this game as town?

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Okay, I threw the game, I'm sorry.

I don't think we were ever lynching correctly there

not your fault

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I would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more careful if I didn't think lynching a doused player was a free action.

I sort of knew you were wrong there but my wim wasn't high enough to correct you

You tried your best

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oh boy oh boy Enter is gonna have some WORDS TO SAY when he gets back

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I wish the Shoshin lynch had been successfully stopped before she replaced

Keeping her around might have helped

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Ank I never suspected after I initially pushed her entrance

she played extremely well

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don't laugh too much at my PT guys

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Max you were fun to play with I'm sorry I scum read you at the end lol

I was losing my mind

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oh boy oh boy Enter is gonna have some WORDS TO SAY when he gets back

that was the least fun part of the game by far

my heart broke when he did his huge reach out after I started scumreading him

he'll be proud of you

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Congrats scum, I enjoyed watching the townies that treated me unfairly get manipulated by both of you.

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Also NSG I did really enjoy this game (maybe not the whole time throughout but certain parts were very enjoyable) and I appreciate that these kinds of games exist. Thanks for modding as always

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i may be underestimating the number of people who really like the kind of games i consider extremely dull and uninteresting.

I tend to prefer mountainous / close to vanilla games

though this setup in particular was grueling

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i think large nightless games in general seem to be grueling.

So, who wants to pre-in for 25 player Half Mast Nightless?

/in

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that BuJ flashwagon should never have worked but it somehow did anyways

oops

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Alyssa the LambYesterday at 4:32 PM
do you think it's in dann's range to post 8182 as town if he suspects me
I think I need to play this differently based on that

no, I'm not that good haha

even if I had suspected you I would have openly tried to engage you beforehand because I wanted you to be town

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I think it might have been a very different game had you stayed in.

Maybe not a town win, but the game may not have been as scum controlled.

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do you think igniting Shoshin could have been dangerous

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Sorry for basically enabling your lynch Bujaber

Liger! I was sad when you replaced out :[

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Vedith you're beautiful as always