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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:15 pm

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In post 9, Fuscosco wrote:VOTE: fuscosco

b-baka
I've seen this from scum quite a bit.
Voting themselves rather than trying to pick a random target.

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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:25 pm

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In post 20, Something_Smart wrote::thonk:
That DID sound like a scummy thonk through..
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Post Post #35 (isolation #2) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:49 am

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In post 34, Alchemist21 wrote:What differentiates Fuscosco from Something Smart to you?
..the fact that S_S didn't selfvote?
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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:51 am

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Or if your actual question was supposed to be: "Are you scum with S_S and therefore avoiding that wagon and instead try to create a competing one?" - then the answer would be "No."
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Post Post #39 (isolation #4) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:53 am

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@Fuscosco - are you an alt, or new on site? Might help me understand you better.
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Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:53 am

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In post 38, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 7, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: Something_Smart
I concur.
I legit missed this!
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Post Post #41 (isolation #6) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:56 am

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Then again, I am somewhat aware of S_S's previous "work" on site, and don't think he needs to self-vote to avoid pressure..which is how I interpreted Fuscoscos selfvote. (hence the question above - I want to hear it from them)
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Post Post #42 (isolation #7) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:02 am

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In post 37, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m confused here. He self-voted in response to someone making what was really an NAI play?
If I understood him correctly, he means that S_S selfvoted as scum in a
In post 28, RCEnigma wrote:game where someone else replicated a recent scum opening and was townread for it.
@RCEnigma - What game was it?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #8) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:10 am

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In post 44, Something_Smart wrote:Why are you drawing a connection between selfvoting and avoiding pressure?
Because it's RvS and I think especially newer players tend to gravitate towards not voting at all/selfvoting to avoid being on an early wagon.
Perhaps something like not wanting to be caught in a set group? Dunno.
I somehow missed your selfvote-post, but I also don't really think you'd be "afraid" to vote where ever, so I don't think the two self-votes are necessarily alike.

But that is all obviously pending RCE's return post about that Bunny Tunes -game.
Apparently he had something more to work with than just the selfvote?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #9) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:14 am

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Btw, I have seen Something_Smart both as scum and as town before, and I have to admit that I can not read their tone correctly. Ever.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #10) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:26 am

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Oh. That is not the same thing as RC though, right?
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:08 am

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In post 55, Something_Smart wrote:Have you played with town-me other than Sharing is Caring? I was pretty busy during that game and I didn't play very well.
I'd say multiple times.
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Post Post #59 (isolation #12) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:09 am

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In post 56, Fuscosco wrote:I selfvoted because i could, because it sparks discussion, and because, aside from conspicuously not voting at all, its my mo
Fine enough.

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Post Post #121 (isolation #13) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:17 pm

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In post 87, Ausuka wrote:Why?
Because I want you to be involved in the game.
I believe in your ability to scumhunt.
And because it's been a while since I've played a game with you.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #14) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:22 pm

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In post 111, Baezu wrote:Fine with me guys, as is always my luck I come across scummy af when I’m town and vice verse...
Doesn't feel genuine.
In post 111, Baezu wrote:let it be known that this ^^^ smells of scum to me and I would like to officially place a vote down before I go...
What is this "^^^"in reference to? Saudade replacing out? And if so, why vote me instead then?
In post 111, Baezu wrote:FWIW I also support a Siv36 wagon, though Civ6 is much better! Lolololol
....I'm not even sure what...

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Post Post #124 (isolation #15) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:30 pm

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In post 123, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 122, HitAlt wrote:
In post 111, Baezu wrote:Fine with me guys, as is always my luck I come across scummy af when I’m town and vice verse...
Doesn't feel genuine.
Why not? Do you think it isn't true?
Not sure, just jotting down my first impressions here.
I do my best work when writing with a stream of consciousness.
Trying not to think too deep into who/why yet.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #16) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:32 pm

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I'm thinking whether Baezu is the kind of player who feel really confident in their one "scumread" this early in the game, and is willing to go down with it, or if they are scum who thought I was going to be an easy push based on my early postings.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:33 pm

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I'm also strongly leaning town on S_S here, which sort of bugs me.
Like said - I always misread them, so S_S is more likely just scum here and I really suck.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:46 pm

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In post 100, SIV36 wrote:@HitAlt: Do you have any suspicions on anybody?
The last time I've played with you/seen you play, you made some very good observations, but lacked the ability to communicate them to the rest of the town. If my memory serves me right here.

I've seen actions that ping me, and I've tried to point them all out.
I'm happy with my current vote, but wouldn't say I have any solid reads yet.

Baezu and Fuscosco are both sort of "all over the place" from my POV. Scummy might be a strong word for now, but for now I'd argue one of them would make for a good lynch here.
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Post Post #163 (isolation #19) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:39 pm

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Getting a hyperactive replacement - what a Boon.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:42 pm

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Still paging Ausuka.
Hope they get more active as the game progresses.
If not, we should lynch that.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #21) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:45 pm

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In post 0, Dannflor wrote:designed by schadd_ and reviewed by RadiantCowbells
I guess this should've been hint enough that RCE and RC can't be the same.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #22) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:37 pm

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In post 167, Ausuka wrote:I'm not sure what kind of meta you're using that says that I make more than 6 posts in a RL week day during the school term, but it's outdated and if I did the posts were a lot shorter than they are here.
We're all good here.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #23) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:38 pm

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Not saying anything about your upper brackets yet, but I think I agree with your bottom 3.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #24) » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:52 pm

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In post 182, cbynumber wrote:Pretty sure I'm already voting scum though
Just checked your ISO, you have only voted once.
So you struck gold with an RvS-vote, or "caught them" based on one post?
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Post Post #185 (isolation #25) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:36 am

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In post 184, cbynumber wrote:Didn't realize there was a prerequisite number of times I had to vote.
This is just a silly reply.
My point obviously was that you are still fine with your RvS-vote. At least you provided some posts for reasoning as well.
In post 184, cbynumber wrote:Answer my Fuscosco question?
Assuming it was this:
In post 173, cbynumber wrote:What's the argument for a fuscosco lynch?
The argument I made, was that they felt like they were all over the place. At that time baezu hadn't given me as much to scumread, and I wanted to out my top two scumleans.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #26) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:35 pm

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I'm not sure if scum!SIV would do that post.
I might have raised an eyebrow when reading it, but I still think the intention behind the post was propably good.
In short: I think the level of "tryhard" makes me lean town.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #27) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:44 pm

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Uh-huh.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #28) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:47 pm

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In post 193, SIV36 wrote:It's hard for me to empathize with this
because as town, I
see the importance of people sticking up for themselves above anything.
This was the only scummy thing in their post. After calling my phrasing LAMIST.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #29) » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:52 pm

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Boon, I've seen you do your gambits over the years, and I'm fully aware of your quirks.
When you are scum, your actions tend to be on the dramatic side. Flashy moves and sound effects.
So please explain this cologne thing in full when you feel like it.
Until them, I'll be sitting here with the popcorn.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #30) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:55 pm

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I have a theory on that cologne thing.
Boon voting for the replacement out of the gates fits said theory.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #31) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:45 am

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In post 266, Flavor Leaf wrote:as long as I can figure out who the alts are.
Sorry man, this is a secret alt that has no intentions of ever revealing.

Furthermore, do you want to put that cologne-thing into words at some point, or do I need to look what's under the hood myself?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #32) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:41 am

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In post 308, Baezu wrote:If I were scum, I'd put my vote where the majority of votes are going so as not to draw attention to myself
Would be hard to make it a good play though?
Voting yourself, huh?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:46 am

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My usual D1 paranoia is starting to peek in ("no way we are catching scum this easily D1 and all townies are actually grouping together that read"), but I honestly don't think any other slot is as deserving of my vote anyway.
Maybe Boon, but I do not see a Universe where we really lynch him D1. Ever.
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Post Post #314 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:47 am

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In post 313, Baezu wrote:I'm not understanding what you mean
Then the sarcasm/joke was lost in translation.
Maybe a smiley would've driven the point home, but I hate emojis so I never use them.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #35) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:49 am

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Actually, @Boon - give me this:

Setup spec. aside - what do you think is the likelyhood for Slaxx scum?


33% or more like 50/50?
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Post Post #320 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:03 am

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In post 319, Fuscosco wrote:Why did you vote me instead of SS?
Eh....guess there is a reason to give the same answer again?

I missed S_S selfvoting.
That's the main reason why.
I really thought you were the only one selfvoting.

Also. I have some exprience with/on S_S. And even with them selfvoting, I do not think the same reasoning applies to them.
For whatever reason thought you were a new player on site, and thought it might have been a newbie scumtell.
(have seen it especially from unconfident players)
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Post Post #324 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:18 am

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But what's the best alternative as of now?
I don't feel like going elbow-deep into Slaxx quite yet.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:44 am

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Mildly interested in why I'm at the absolute bottom of two lists as of now.
But just midly, so I'm not going to ask.
Guess they are both going to explain once they start voting their (apparently) #1 scumread..?
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Post Post #339 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:45 am

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In post 337, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, unpopular opinion, Baez is town.
It's starting to look like it's not so unpopular anymore.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #40) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:00 pm

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In post 480, Slaxx wrote:Maybe hitalt?

Hes been kind of fielding the idea that this isn’t a good wagon without hopping off. Looks more intentional than it should.
I said very clearly it's likely just paranoia. Also literally said that I couldn't think of a better alternative.
And then I said that FL is someone I might want lynched, but don't think we can get it done D1.
Now, I haven't unvoted and still think Baezu is the best lynch we got, so I would love to hear you argue scum!Hit after their lynch.
Oh and.. I might have misunderstood your previous post, but wasn't FL your first thought for Baezus partner?
So out reads somewhat meet here but you think I'm on the scummy end of the spectrum?
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Post Post #558 (isolation #41) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:04 pm

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^^this is the kind of thing I earlier described as "all over the place".
I can't follow their logic because I think of things in a different way, and sometimes I catch scum simply like that.
I guess sometimes it's forced reads/content shining through?
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Post Post #559 (isolation #42) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:13 pm

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In post 515, Flavor Leaf wrote:UnaBombah can catch me
I'm thinking this is an alt for an older player? Based on how highly I have viewed your performances, I don't think an actual newbie could do it.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #43) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:16 pm

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In post 528, Flavor Leaf wrote:Actually, Ausuka’s a player too I’d be generally pretty worried about if I were scum. I don’t think i’ve been scum in too many games against her, though.
I think they don't generally get enough credit for their townplay.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #44) » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:25 pm

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And then there are a bunch of posts regarding FL-Slaxx and planes.
I'm not at all certain I correctly interpreted FL's gambit anymore.
Vorkuta seems to get a townstamp from FL, and I don't like it.
S_S is pretty much the only slot I feel set on for now. Townlean-wise.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #45) » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:21 am

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In post 609, Something_Smart wrote:Ausuka is town here unless she's bussing imo
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Post Post #633 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 am

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Oh wow, potentially a wagon on Fuscoscosco?
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Post Post #634 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:24 am

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To swap around the "swap-around" on Baezu-wagon..
They are actually scum and since the scum didn't feel like bussing (?) the wagon never went all the way through.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #48) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:28 am

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In post 635, Alchemist21 wrote:How does that sentence relate to the vote on RCE?
It was sort of "sarcasm". Or something like that.

But regarding the vote...I do have a hunch on RCE.
Gonna do the ISO-work tonight/tomorrow.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #49) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 am

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In post 641, Vedith wrote:My name is Vedith and I don't know any player here.
But I do know you...

..VEDITH \m/
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Post Post #683 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:32 am

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In post 681, RCEnigma wrote:Ausuka/FL/SS townblock would make me sweat as scum.
Ausuka is the only one of these three I'd be willing to townlock for now.
S_S is in the bin, but they can still be taken out if naughty.

Boon is worrying me, and them taking that VLA doesn't help because it doesn't make sense to push for them while they aren't active.
I think I'm able to tell their town/scum gambits apart.
Depending on whether I understood that cologne thing correctly, I think it was either a very clever town!gambit, or scum-theater. (scum!Boon doing that type of charades leads me to scum!Slaxx. Meaning SIV would've replaced out because they couldn't take the pressure.)
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Post Post #685 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:34 am

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In post 684, Vedith wrote:VOTE: Ausuka

\o/
I really really think this isn't a reasonable wagon.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:36 am

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inb4 - Vedith votes for me.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #53) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 687, Alchemist21 wrote:At some point someone is going to have to explain the cologne thing to me.

How does scumBoon doing that lead to scumSlaxx?
In my mind, Boon has to be the one to say something before I out my theory. I'm not sure if he already confirmed my suspicions - I think he did.
Town!Boon would have been aiming for a result X with his gambit.
Scum!Boon would've posed as if he was aiming for result X.
Scum!Boon doesn't outright mean scum!Slaxx, but considering SIV replacing out, I think it's more likely.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #54) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:41 am

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Didn't someone already speculate 2p scumteam? Who and why?
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Post Post #694 (isolation #55) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:44 am

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In post 689, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not enough for me to push RCE
today
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read him
due to how he interacts with me
later
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Bolded these because I've said and seen similar things all around this game day now.
We are going to run out of lynch-options soon.
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Post Post #696 (isolation #56) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:46 am

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Baa! BAA!
BAAAAAAAAAA!
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Post Post #804 (isolation #57) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:20 pm

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I'd rather vote Vorkuta than no-lynch.

VOTE: Vorkuta
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Post Post #805 (isolation #58) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:21 pm

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In post 804, HitAlt wrote:I'd rather vote Vorkuta than no-lynch.

VOTE: Vorkuta
Still no need to panic!
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Post Post #806 (isolation #59) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:21 pm

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We might actually get a lynch through!
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Post Post #807 (isolation #60) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:29 pm

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In post 803, Flavor Leaf wrote:Vork’s town.
Honestly though - is he?
And if he is, please feel free to point me to a reasonable D1 lynch.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #61) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:38 pm

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I'm just here thinking whether FL actually should be the D1 lynch here.
I've seen games where he bullshits his way into D3/D4 (as scum), partly under the promise of "you can just lynch me then".
Meanwhile he kills/lynches all the so called "power-Townies" who actually could get him lynched and would keep their heads.
Meaning that he ends with a bunch of unconfident, incohesive players who he then manipulates further to get the lynches required for the win.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:50 pm

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I'm considering just outing my ideas about the cologne-thing.
I don't think it would hurt town too much if I'm correct, and if I'm wrong, then it really affects how I'm reading FL this game.
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Post Post #811 (isolation #63) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:19 am

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I can handle that.
But I've seen too many games where I am the only one shouting for his lynch D3 when it's time to cut the crap and gather the rope.
It's basically everyone outside of you/Slaxx/S_S that might be swayed with the right kind of BS.
And Boon is one of the best bullshitters I know. (that's a compliment btw)
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Post Post #818 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:30 am

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In post 817, Something_Smart wrote:Third party isn't possible.
I suck at setup spec. so maybe it's just me but..I do not understand why.
I tried to re-check the first posts and didn't see any mentions on what the setup is power division -wise.
What I did spot was that this game is proven to have a daytalk for scum.
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Post Post #821 (isolation #65) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:55 am

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In post 819, Vorkuta wrote:Is that uhh... a major finding?
Well, now that you've worded it like that..it shouldn't be?
I haven't been playing actively for a while now, but the way I remembered it, daytalk wasn't a given.

And I think I remember at least one or two mini games with an SK in the past, but I guess my memory isn't what it once was.
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Post Post #827 (isolation #66) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:49 am

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I'm not quite sure if that is true.
Town!Boon might just be more vocal about it.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #67) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:22 am

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I'm quite certain RCE is not going to be NK'ed N1, so I'm eagerly waiting for what they will give us then.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #68) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:28 am

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In post 832, Vedith wrote:And if we have a protecting role they should actually always be on FL unless proven Scum.
FL can go down N1/N2 for all I care.
If scum go for him it will save me from the paranoia and the struggle of trying to get him lynched D3 when their "IC" turns out to be "I made myself obv.town with my play".
Then again, I'm sure someone else than me would make a different judgement on who to save, so who knows.
Just my 2 cents to consider.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #69) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:31 am

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In post 853, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 852, HitAlt wrote:I'm quite certain RCE is not going to be NK'ed N1, so I'm eagerly waiting for what they will give us then.
That's intentional lol.
Of course it is.
Mostly everything I do is intentional.
And if scum try to kill you N1 based on my post...
In post 854, RCEnigma wrote:FL won't be nked either.
HEY! DON'T TRY TO SABOTAGE MY WIFOM WITH YOUR COUNTER-LOGIC!
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Post Post #857 (isolation #70) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:32 am

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Although, if you want to find some value in my ramblings, you need to watch carefully RCE.
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Post Post #862 (isolation #71) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:55 am

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Vedith is smart.
Vedith is great.
\o/
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Post Post #863 (isolation #72) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:55 am

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Boon is
love
paranoia.
Boon is
life
death.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #73) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:00 am

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In post 864, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Hit - you’re probably correct with the cologne thing, but I want to actually use the gambit, and if I explain it here, I don’t get to use it elsewhere.
Mind you - even if I'm correct - you could still be scum.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #74) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:04 am

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Waitwaitwait, if I die N1...scum!Boon will just use that cologne thing the way they originally intended.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #75) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:07 am

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BUT HOW AM I GOING TO KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY SCUM HERE?
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Post Post #871 (isolation #76) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:09 am

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Doesn't cut it.
If Boon flips red this game, no matter when or how, Slaxx should be investigated/lynched next.


Guess I'm off to bed now.
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Post Post #920 (isolation #77) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:37 pm

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Funnily enough, that way too blatant interaction is what initially pinged me.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #78) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:56 pm

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In post 915, volxen wrote:{Alchemist, Vork, and HitAlt} were also on Baezu's wagon. Assuming there was scum on Baezu's L-2 wagon, which of those three do you think would be the most likely scum?
Like Slaxx already pointed out, the wagon could've just as well been all town.
Furthermore, whenever people do this type of "analyzing" as you are pushing for here, they seem to forget that they should always include the TARGET of the wagon as well.

I'll subscribe to your theory of "one scum in the wagon, if the pool of suspects includes all of:
Baezu, Alchemist21, Vorkuta, Ausuka, Slaxx
. (obviously excluding myself from the suspects, but sure, I was there)
To me, Baezu probably still
is
the scum on the wagon.
And if not them, my vote on Vorkuta afterwards should make my 2nd suspect quite clear.

I'm townreading Ausuka and to some degree Slaxx. (still thinking Boon flipping red might 180 this read)
Alchemist sort of worries me mainly because I really can't read them at all.
No actual scum-pings, but the same type of paranoia that I get with Boon, I get with Alch as well.
I think I've seen them play scum only once, but I think they were good..
It was a game I spectated from the sidelines, so might be hard to find it, but I'll try.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #79) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:58 pm

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BTW, 4 people not voting at all in the last vote count, and FL voting for a no-lynch.
Not sure how many of them already voted, but I think we need to avoid "not voting" as we are sliding closer to the deadline.
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Post Post #923 (isolation #80) » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:59 pm

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VOTE: Baezu
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #81) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:14 pm

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In post 1085, Vorkuta wrote:Where are HitAlt and Roy Mustang on that spectrum?
I haven't been diagnosed yet, but I'd say "high functioning autism".
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #82) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:19 pm

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Ok then, seems like no one is coming back to the Baezu wagon, so..
VOTE: Volxen - Hammertime!
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #83) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:30 pm

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I'm not sure if I should save Boon from my shenanigans, but I really think there's a case for our protective to go elsewehere.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #84) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:05 am

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In post 1202, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: Vorkuta

Wanna make another wagon happen?
How/why are you now back to this wagon?
I feel like every time I'm satisfied with a wagon, someone else starts another one and the previous one derails completely.
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #85) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:09 am

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In post 1243, Vedith wrote:If me Ausuka and Volxen are all alive tonight then Vig shoots in these 3.
Then we lynch in these 3 until there are 2 red flips.

Fuck, I'm good at this game.
With all due respect...no?
Volxen is likely the only scum in the 3 of you.
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #86) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:44 am

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I still think anyone of Baezu/Vorkuta/Volxen is a fine lynch, and we REALLY need to get one of them all the way through.
As long as we don't make any more new wagons I'd argue we can get a decent starting point for actual sorting.

Getting an actual scumflip also feels very likely to me, and there have been some clear attempts at derailing and "blindly" pushing for some of these wagons.
So any of them flipping scum ought to really give us some associations to inspect.
And even on a townflip I still feel like I get to look more in-depth at the remaining two wagons, and try and see who derailed those wagons in favor of the townflip.
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #87) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:48 am

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Come again?
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Post Post #1268 (isolation #88) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:51 am

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The dumbest thing is that I really think S_S is currently on the most likely scumflip, but I hate the fact that he joined the wagon only after everyone else left.
I feel like Volxen is the least likely to flip scum out of the trio.
I only joined the wagon because
1) It felt like Vorkuta isn't going to be the lynch even if I stuck there
2) No one seemed to be willing to come back to Baezu once the Volxen-wagon got to rolling
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:07 am

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I don't think it really is.
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #90) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:09 am

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We need one more vote on Volxen to avoid a no-lynch.
The hammer is up for grabs.
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Post Post #1311 (isolation #91) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:44 am

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@Slaxx - you remain convinced that Boon should be protected tonight?
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #92) » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:45 am

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Nevermind, it was Vedith who said that.
But still, who do you think SHOULD be protected?
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #93) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:01 am

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So uh..anyone else find the above a bit over the top?
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Post Post #1385 (isolation #94) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:09 am

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Exactly.
Although, my interpretation?
If this wasn't a premeditated act from Baezu, I'm baffled.
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Post Post #1387 (isolation #95) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:14 am

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In post 1382, Vedith wrote:FL Vork Baezu
Not lynching.

I'm thinking Alch scum here.
I'll return to this after a good nights sleep.
Not arguing on the potential of your Alch-read.
But both of Vork/Baezu as town?
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #96) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:18 am

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I'm town here.
And I think we would've lynched scum in Vorkuta/Baezu.
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Post Post #1462 (isolation #97) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:55 pm

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FL, I'm absolutely baffled by you, yet again.. But.
I need you to tell the others that I am not to be lynched here.
If you're scum, you have no reason to, but at the same time I feel like you/Ausuka might be the only ones able to do so.
So this is me asking you to take the time and read what I'm about to spam, and what I have already said.
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #98) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:57 pm

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In post 22, RCEnigma wrote:SS I....I can see you...
First of all, I thought this was a crumb/hint at RCE being a tracker/watcher.
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #99) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:59 pm

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I thought I had like 852 reasons to townread RCE, but now that ISO him, I feel like that was the only crumbing post from HIM.
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Post Post #1465 (isolation #100) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:10 pm

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I don't want to completely flood the thread, so maybe I'll stop at these 2s..

Hots topic being the fact that no one started the day by analyzing the wagons that took place.
Baezu/Vorkuta could've easily been a scum!lynch waiting to happen, and derailed to land us at town instead.
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #101) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:13 pm

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Nevermind, I still want to question the decision our protective did last night.
Because I have no doubt in my mind that the protective wasn't on S_S. Not that it would've changed anything.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #102) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:16 pm

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Baezus 2posts at the start of the day were suspicious as all hell, and not only because of the faked as hell tone. No.
I think they tried to provoke our protective to react immediately after their posts.
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Post Post #1471 (isolation #103) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:20 pm

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In post 1467, Flavor Leaf wrote:I have no interest in your lynch, and I am gut town reading you despite, but actively not wanting to go along with that, if that makes sense.
But then you should have no trouble lynching Baezu with me today?
Also, dig deep with me here.
I did exactly what I set out to do.
I feel a bit ashamed though.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #104) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:21 pm

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In post 1470, Flavor Leaf wrote:he’s just scum
Hence me feeling ashamed.
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #105) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:25 pm

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Well, I'm the one trying to talk you into it, and if you read my rambling with the right kind of glasses, you should be able to see that I have nothing to kill you with.
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Post Post #1478 (isolation #106) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:31 pm

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In post 1476, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think i’m Nearing whatever I need to give a solid push towards an endgame.
Nice.
If Morality had said that, I'd give pun-points as well.
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Post Post #1491 (isolation #107) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:08 pm

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Booooooooooooooooonnnnnnnn.......
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #108) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:09 pm

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I. THINK. VORK. IS. A. GOOD. LYNCH. SAID. IT. A. HUNDRED. TIMES.
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #109) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:09 pm

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YOU kept insisting he is town.
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #110) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:11 pm

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No. This does the complete opposite to me.
I read this as "scum!Boon accidentally townbinned too many slots and needs to backtrack"
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #111) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:11 pm

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....sorry Dann?
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Post Post #1504 (isolation #112) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:14 pm

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Ok, now I'm seriously worried I misjudged FL and gave too much away with my shenanigans.
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Post Post #1506 (isolation #113) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:16 pm

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Did you really read my posts regarding RCE as me trying to lure you away from him? Because if you did, then you missed what I was trying to tell you.
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #114) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:18 pm

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I never use emotes, but I feel like this is the time.
In post 1505, Ausuka wrote:Your D3 IC is a real claim if you're town right?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #115) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:19 pm

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Boon, can you just tell me this - do you feel like you now know what I did?
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #116) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:21 pm

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@Ausuka - do you think our protective should be on you over Boon tonight?
Interested to hear your opinion.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #117) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:29 pm

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I think our protective might need the guidance.
Let's just leave it at that.
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #118) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:04 pm

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In post 1550, Dannflor wrote:damn im good
...cough...on the second try...cough...
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Post Post #1553 (isolation #119) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:06 pm

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So.
If we are still not lynching in Baezu/Vork, OR they are both town, I'm afraid I might have lost all my sense of scumhunting.
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #120) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:10 pm

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Also, I'm not sure if I misunderstood Boon or he made a slip a few posts ago, but I'm not getting myself into a 1v1...yet.
I want Ausuka to give me that sweet sweet result before I even try to solve the associations at work here.
Knowing Boon like I (/we all?) do, I'm not even putting "scumtheatre Boon/Vork" beyond his reach.
Don't know what Vorks "reach" is though.
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Post Post #1555 (isolation #121) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:12 pm

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Oh, on other news!
I thought Boons Cologne-thing was a neighborhood-gambit.
Guess it's safe to out now that Slaxx has flipped.
I'll give my reasoning after the game ends if anyone is interested (I don't think anyone will be).
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #122) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:20 pm

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In post 1554, HitAlt wrote:Also, I'm not sure if I misunderstood Boon or he made a slip a few posts ago, but I'm not getting myself into a 1v1...yet.
I need to do something else for now, but I'll return to this.

@Boon - give me once more your theoretical scumpairings.
Like who is scum with who, or definitely NOT scum with who?
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Post Post #1559 (isolation #123) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:32 pm

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In post 1558, Vorkuta wrote:I mean I have comments on what I think is optimal and suboptimal scum play if that's what you're interested in.
I bet that would help me a lot here.
/s
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #124) » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:33 pm

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In post 1558, Vorkuta wrote:Is anyone going to look at how our wagons were derailed and find a common denominator? We might find something there.
I'll do this tonight/tomorrow.
I'll do it real good.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #125) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:26 am

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In post 1566, Ausuka wrote:Baezu is town.
This simplifies my goal for today.
We lynch Vorkuta.
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #126) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:28 am

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In post 1568, RCEnigma wrote:Oh, even better. We can still flip alchemist then.
Hold the phone for a moment on this.
I want Boon to comment on what his lynchpool/scumlist for today actually is.
I found a mistake/slip in his spamfest, and I want to see whether it might have been a perspective-one.
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #127) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:12 am

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In post 1571, RCEnigma wrote:Is it around the Ausuka guilty thing? It's just boon bullshitting.
Nope.
He might have actually slipped.
I wouldn't even bother being paranoid about him anymore - we lynch him tomorrow when his "IC" doesn't pop - but if this is a genuine mistake I won't let him manipulate me even for a day more.
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #128) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:13 am

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Also - it feels very good to feel very good about Ausuka.
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #129) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 am

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In post 1519, Flavor Leaf wrote:We know two of RCE’s town reads were town, and one of his pool reads were town.
I believe Alchemist to be scum
, and I don’t think he lists both his partners here.
This is the one sentence that pinged me.

For all that follows from here to make sense, it would've needed to be "I believe Alchemist to be town". For example:
In post 1519, Flavor Leaf wrote:RCEnigma, one of Vorkuta-Hit, one of Baezu-Fuos.

Only wild card is Vedith.
And
In post 1525, Flavor Leaf wrote:Setup for a future Alchemist lynch without hard pushing.
Now, I know some of you are thinking "Hit, that is just a silly mistake. Very natural.", and sure, it could be that.
But it immediately pinged me as a slip from perspective. As in - Boon knows Alch is scum and forgets to say they are town there.
Obviously meaning they would be scum together.
Just outing this for everyone to consider in case Boon doesn't become the IC he has promised to become.
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #130) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:12 am

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Other than that outlying possibility.....

Vorkuta+RCE makes sense?
With Vedith then? (I really can't see scum!Ausuka here)
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Post Post #1614 (isolation #131) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:41 am

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Games with Boon in them often are.
VOTE: Vorkuta

I'm fully behind this wagon, and hope that Boon really "flips" IC D3.
Vorkuta flipping scum+FL being confirmed tomorrow would cement town in a very good position.
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Post Post #1641 (isolation #132) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:57 am

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You are set on S_S being the NK
because
they..crumbed(?)..being a Vig?
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #133) » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 am

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Vork getting stuck on annoyance/semantics doesn't help my read on them at all.
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Post Post #2429 (isolation #134) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:21 am

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In post 2412, RCEnigma wrote:I need to kick the habit of hard-softing invest as doc. Nearly died N1 for it.
Yea, I read it.
You didn't get killed N1 because
1. I tried to put myself into a position where I might be tracked/investigated N1, and I wanted to be able to claim Doc.
2. I read your posts as watcher/Tracker -> no hard guilties+potential for townpoints.
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Post Post #2430 (isolation #135) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:24 am

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In post 2418, Vorkuta wrote:Yeah this townblock was ridiculous.
We should've really killed Boon.
Scum should always kill him early.
It's just that there was never a chance for him to ACTUALLY be IC, so I got greedy and thought we could get him lynched D3.
If he hadn't hit scum that night, I have no doubt in my mind we would've just rolled over town this game.
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Post Post #2431 (isolation #136) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:26 am

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Not sure if I said it here already, but Ausuka was great as town. Again.
One of my secret favorites.
Not so secret I guess.
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Post Post #2432 (isolation #137) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:28 am

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Me in the Mafia PT:
Step 1. Be like town.
Step 2. Actually be scum.
Step 3. Get a good start with everything going like you want it to go.
Step 4. Find out you/your buddies get guiltied during the night.
Step 5. Bus with the might of Zeus.
Step 6. Still get scumbinned.
Step 7. Squeeeeeze your way into LyLo somehow.
Step 8. Hope for the best, because it always gets close no matter what.
Adding step 9 now.
Step 9. Get vigged the night after posting this by the player you thought might be backing you up the following day.
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #138) » Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:31 am

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I'm quite proud of my crumbs this game.
Especially .
Shame I never got the chance to actually claim Doc.
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