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[Skygazer]

true im really good at catching scum ig

[Skygazer]

nero has ur meta changed significantly since i was last on site??

[Nero Cain]

not really.

[Skygazer]

nero can be town

[Nero Cain]

spoken like scum that knows I am.

[Nero Cain]

like maybe wizard is scum but so is

VOTE: bob3141

[RuiRui]

I'll build a case on TheWizard while waiting for skygazer to defend himself.

1. You never claim role blocker as VT (Unless you're really bad - in which case lynch is fine)
2. You never claim role blocker as role blocker unless you're getting lynched (Unless you're really bad - in which case the anti-town aspect of role blocker might lead me into the conclusion of point 1)
3. Claiming role blocker as mafia can be OK because you protect yourself from lynch while also likely not claiming the strongest power in the game, allowing you to justify the lack of NK against you. (It's still really bad unless you're actually in a bad spot)

Do we understand now claiming role blocker post 1 and following up with shit is just REALLY bad?

Okay, so I'm also ok with lynching here, but I think skygazer should be today's priority target.

I don't think mafia claims roleblocker either though

His play is a little unorthodox, I don't think that makes him scum at this time

[NotAnAxehole]

Spoiler: quoted text

i think sickofit is basically conf-scum at this point tbh

saudade seems town btw

fumuki can b town

nom could b lynchbait

why is axehole still selfvoting

Ok, so since I've given Skygazer every opportunity to play her town game, I guess I'll lay out the case. This is 100% scum meta for Skygazer, it's basically c/p from another game I saw on this site where she is scum. Her town game seems to be injected with minor descriptive points here and there, none of which is present so far.

On top of the meta check, the play is scummy to begin with which is why I checked meta. I think she deflects well when fumuki addresses her and overall doesn't provide any content other than "this may be town", "this is obv scum" - which also is a trait I expect from scum, using absolutes on scum reads and maybes on town reads... With no justification on either.

[RuiRui]

I don't get how people are stating "x is town" already with what's been posted so far.

For instance it appears there's a lot of joke posting, along with "I'm a PR/specific PR" posts, which sounds like messing around a lot. First impression is that it's null, can't get a good enough read from that yet. Could be town gambiting or scum gambiting.

I scumread this post slightly because it seems to be a certain type of explanation/analysis that I think comes from scum

[RuiRui]

VOTE: Performer

[Skygazer]

u do realize me calling anyone obvscum this early is shitposting, right?
or that i haven't been on site for like 6 months until this month so meta doesn't rlly hold up?
or that i sometimes like to play my reads close to the chest as town?
or etc etc etc

a lot of people who know me super well can't consistently meta me so what makes you think you can?

[NotAnAxehole]

like maybe wizard is scum but so is

VOTE: bob3141

I can get behind that, but I don't think it's a good lynch for today.

I'll build a case on TheWizard while waiting for skygazer to defend himself.

1. You never claim role blocker as VT (Unless you're really bad - in which case lynch is fine)
2. You never claim role blocker as role blocker unless you're getting lynched (Unless you're really bad - in which case the anti-town aspect of role blocker might lead me into the conclusion of point 1)
3. Claiming role blocker as mafia can be OK because you protect yourself from lynch while also likely not claiming the strongest power in the game, allowing you to justify the lack of NK against you. (It's still really bad unless you're actually in a bad spot)

Do we understand now claiming role blocker post 1 and following up with shit is just REALLY bad?

Okay, so I'm also ok with lynching here, but I think skygazer should be today's priority target.

I don't think mafia claims roleblocker either though

His play is a little unorthodox, I don't think that makes him scum at this time

I agree that it's bad in all situations, and that his play being unorthodox doesn't mean he's scum, it's the full picture that does it for me though. The low quality posts + the bad claim + the worse defense.

[Performer]

Well, that elevated quickly...

I'm hovering somewhere between "this is so over the top that its a joke" and "this is newb scum that doesn't know how to react under pressure."

Eh, either way, he is scum. Even if he's town roleblocker, he deserves to be lynched. I think he's just mafia roleblocker though

but....town rb and mafia rb are both normal roles
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can we get a vc? thanks schadd

I can agree with part of nero's 171, and I do like his response to bob's vote on him.

I do agree with saud that...some of these avatars are downright strange...
but I'm not getting the feeling that these are scum: sickof, saud, sky, nero, notanaxe, nomnom.

[Saudade]

First person to tell everyone why I'm super town and why Nero is scum gets a reward

[EeveeLution Army]

i think within so many posts that axe is probably town. from what ive seen at least, ill stick to this until someone says smth different

[RuiRui]

i think within so many posts that axe is probably town. from what ive seen at least, ill stick to this until someone says smth different

Okay, I don't agree that he looks town

[Nero Cain]

y?

[NerfedBuJ]

I want nero to be town so I'm just going to assume he's town.

Fumuki's sarcasm strikes me as a personality quirk, so I don't know if it's AI yet, but from what I can see people are having a hard time understanding what she means or doesn't mean. So overall result is anti-town atm, Fumuki. Please minimize it.

[Sickofit1138]

who voted when we were out of rvs.

I'd argue that we are just now getting out of RVS with a semi-serious wagon on me.

Why does Skygazer and Fumaki voting you make them good lynches?

Not cuz they voting me. And I haven't mentioned anything about Star?

Also i never ever said anything about lynch

[Nero Cain]

I want nero to be town so I'm just going to assume he's town.

[Nero Cain]

Not cuz they voting me. And I haven't mentioned anything about Star?

I am really lost then.

Mostly talking about the other two, who voted when we were out of rvs.

Why does Skygazer and Fumaki voting you make them good lynches?

Not cuz they voting me. And I haven't mentioned anything about Star?

It feels like you are being intentionally vague here. Who are these other two?

Also i never ever said anything about lynch

true but why would you wagon anyone without the intention of lynching them?

[bob3141]

Ive been reading through the forum and sky certainly does look alittle dodgy. Like nero Ive not realy seen sky many posts of actual substance. Though this is certainly a problem with day one so far.

Too me it does look like sky is reluctant to commit to scum hunting. She says things liek that could be lynch bait or he coudl be town. But looks more like scum trying to get out of postign by making running commentary

I dont know sky's meta so I can only go on what I see but without change she is certainly looking scummy to me. Sky who do you think is scum and why. Also what do you think of the otherr players. Also who is mostly strong looking like scum in your opinion, enough so you woudl vote for them

[bob3141]

Ill be keeping my Vote on nero for now until he actualy starts making posts that arnt just joke posts or posts that are very light.

[bob3141]

This discussion is pointless, this is all town, let's stop flooding the tread and allowing scum to lurk.

I very much agree with this. All these non scum huntign posts will hurt us in the long run. As we ar making it very easy for scum to hide

[schadd_]

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