Mini 2072: Timeshift Mafia IV [GAME OVER]

[light_ganski]

Alright, everyone claim your role immediately.

I'm a 2-Shot Ninja.

First scum found

VOTE: something smart

[light_ganski]

In THE FUTURE, at THE END, everything was so BLEAK and dreary that colors were all FADING, muted and dim.

If you want to AVOID that fate, TRUST me and vote Mephistophanes.

SOunds like a good enough case for me

VOTE: mephistophanes

[light_ganski]

how do we know you're telling the truth about the future mastina?

[light_ganski]

No! Believe our comrade from the future Mastina, your colours will fade if you don't vote mephistophanes!

[light_ganski]

Though the risk of a PARADOX prevents me from telling you everything, I can share LITTLE details of the FUTURE.

Among them I can tell you the N2 NK was a HYDRA. I should not inform you of which.

How are we to know how not to repeat our mistakes (other than by wagonning mephistophanes) if you cannot divulge further details?

[light_ganski]

Can you reveal who the scum were in the FUTURE?

[light_ganski]

I also require a psychiatrist VOTE: rightodude

I guess we're destined to repeat the mistakes of the FUTURE, if mastina cannot tell us the scum we originally failed to kill

[light_ganski]

I was just informed by my psychiatrist that psychiatrists aren’t real

But you said I'd get one if I voted for you

[light_ganski]

Eh mephisto seems null atp

Here is a piece of info for you: I do, indeed, possess a killing ability.

Make of that what you will.

Town. Scum don't typically respond to pressure like this

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

So you're telling me Mastina is

not

from the future?????????????????????????

~A

Latro, how do you interpret mastina's trolling? AI or not?

[light_ganski]

Yeah I should always vote the leading wagons.

Why?

[light_ganski]

@Latrodectus

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

rosterfoster yeah, but I'm gonna paraphrase TTTT himself and ask: what has he done that's alignment indicative at this point? I can't see anything

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

I mean, RVS wagon, but the speed at which it went makes me concur that he's probably town

You think scum!me chose to jump on an RVS wagon immediately after my buddy?

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

I've played one game with mastina, in it I townread her (and was right) but she was mislynched. This is early on and she was a replacement in that game but tonally she was nothing like this then; why is her vote more alignment indicative that her tone?

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!

To me the RC vote looks like early game silliness more than anything else. Is this an explicit scumread or are you sitting on the fence?

Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

Agreed.

[light_ganski]

I don't get the wagon on Rightodude, not much info besides a townlock on RC which seems sudden since that's his opening post (95). It scumpings me, but not enough for me to L-1.

rightodude is a lolwagon but they're probably town in hindsight

UNVOTE:

Mephistophanes seems to think mastina is scum, and I think 192 doesn't get the point across (I don't see the connection).

Expand on this pls. I think there's plenty of scope for mephisto to be suspicious of mastina at this stage

Yahmose's "can kill" claim doesn't sit right with me, especially considering 181. (probably scum, if Yahmose is a scum!vig we're doomed)

Interesting. That post is the main reason I think yahmoose is probably town

[light_ganski]

@Latrodectus

Hello! I am caught up! =)

TTTT is very likely town!
Rosterfoster is likely town!

rosterfoster yeah, but I'm gonna paraphrase TTTT himself and ask: what has he done that's alignment indicative at this point? I can't see anything

Thanks to these two reads and my concurrent scumreads on ceejayvinoya and Light_Ganski, the Rosterfoster->TTTT->ceejayvinoya->Light_Ganski ordering on the Rightodude wagon is suspicious! I also personally believe that Rightodude looks much more like LHF than scum at the current moment!

I mean, RVS wagon, but the speed at which it went makes me concur that he's probably town

You think scum!me chose to jump on an RVS wagon immediately after my buddy?

Mastina can go either way! I only have memories of seeing her troll like this as scum, but this is far from conclusive nor a confident read! I believe this is much more likely to be NAI. Regardless, her current vote is good, which is enough for a leantown read for this current point in the game! =)

I've played one game with mastina, in it I townread her (and was right) but she was mislynched. This is early on and she was a replacement in that game but tonally she was nothing like this then; why is her vote more alignment indicative that her tone?

Mephistophanes has pinged me a few times! Ari's original vote onto RC was not a good vote, and Nancy trying to pull the suspicion off of that post while still townreading the slot that pushed it feels agenda-driven!

To me the RC vote looks like early game silliness more than anything else. Is this an explicit scumread or are you sitting on the fence?

Time_Devil is likely town! It's quite standard for their posting to feel incredibly awkward and I believe that specific point is NAI, but the suspicion on the Aristophanes vote on RC is quite good!

Agreed.

Disregard the last bit of this I though you were referring to something else.

[light_ganski]

Hello Light!

How well do you know RC? =)

Not very well; I've played with him once or twice but it was a loooooong time ago

[light_ganski]

I guess we're destined to repeat the mistakes of the FUTURE, if mastina cannot tell us the scum we originally failed to kill

I have TOLD you to pursue Mephistophanes.

Is that not ENOUGH?

I'm an anarchist, I'm not gonna be coerced this easily

UNVOTE: Mephistophanes
I owe an explanation; I chose my words here carefully.
ORIGINALLY, Mephistophanes was the D3 mislynch, out of paranoia. This lynch was spearheaded by me, and was my largest REGRET. It was a QUICKLYNCH, because Mephistophanes had failed to obvtown in those three days, and lingering suspicions had grown on them.

My attempt to wagon them THIS TIME was meant as a way of kickstarting their obvtown status.
Since the future has CHANGED as a result of this, I'm not CERTAIN I succeeded...but it LOOKS like I have.

They are TOWN, and I hope the towncred generated today is enough to last the game.

Unless you're actually scum, I wouldn't say mephistophanes gets a great deal of towncred from your push on them. So, beyond trolling, what was the point of it?

[light_ganski]

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

[light_ganski]

I'm checking in! didn't realise that the game started but rainbow reads HAS to be town. look at that text

Hey look this is scum.

VOTE: Righttodude

can't you agree that rainbow's text is godly.

I’m slightly confused right now. My head is hurting
/vote for me to get a psychiatrist

These were rightodude's three posts at the time I joined the wagon. rosterfoster started the wagon immediately after the first (95 > 96). For all I know rosterfoster could've got a scumread out of that but I certainly wouldn't have. I joined for the "I'll get a psychiatrist" joke

Btw I can confirm myself D3 for those interested in voting me

[light_ganski]

Also something that seemed odd about Light is the emphasis on Righto being a lolwagon. It got to L-2 and there were actual reasons to vote there, Light was big on emphasizing the lolrandomness of it, but that was the end of RVS and there were reasons for that wagon, and Light voted after we got on right after Righto had made another nothing post.

That was really your thought process on replacing in, FB?

(￣～￣;)

~A

That’s what prompted me to look up that scum!Enter quote because he was hardpushing lhf town!NMSA and giving a similar rationale. So, good to know I’m not the only one who was surprised to hear her call it a “lolwagon”.

~N

This question is for latrodectus as well as you:

What

specifically

are your reasons for thinking the rightodude wagon was NOT a lolwagon?

[light_ganski]

Also for latrodectus: can you answer the questions I asked you in 224 RE your views (barring the rc one you already answered, ty), please and thank you

[light_ganski]

I really find this questioning suspicious. Maybe I bought into your claim which you didn’t even elaborate on, too soon?

How is that question suspicious?

There’s a wagon on me for making a meme post.
Thanks Obama.
I’ll just ignore the fact that there’s going to be a lynch on me. I can tell you right now that you will regret lynching me.
I’m not claiming D1 because that’s dumb.

Very bad response to a lolwagon.

For a start it's uncommon for an early D1 wagon to lead to a lynch anyway,

especially

one most of us joined for the lolz. And no one would expect a claim at L-3, just out of RVS

This seems like a fake overreaction and a bad attempt at faking a PR slip

So, this continuing to make this whole “lolwagon” thing an issue, is pinging me.

1:

I'd left the wagon at this point.

Didn't know he was a newbie otherwise I wouldn't have read him like this.

2:

I notice you still haven't given a reason for why you think my vote was a serious vote. All you've done is say "light calling this a lolwagon is suspicious" without giving any reason as to why it isn't one. Maybe, just maybe, that's because thats what it was?