Bulletnlynchproof 13p pre-designed setup

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
7 Vanilla Townie

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How about night 2+ vig

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?

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Bump
If still too scumsided I’ll inform the Mafia about the Psychologist or Watcher only.

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northsidegal?

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Implo said she siteflaked

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Is the simple doctor really that powerful?

FWIW the idea of the setup was the Watcher + Psychologist + Scum informed about them. I just put "scum informed about everything" to make it simpler.

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Simple Doctor
7 Vanilla Townie

How's this then? It may be too weak now, but I hadn't liked the vigilante in the setup; while I initially used it as a psychologist guilty, I felt like the setup didn't warrant one.

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Actually
How about change the simple doctor to a simple babysitter?

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 3+ Vigilante
1 Town Simple Doctor
6 Vanilla Townie

Better?

Would you call this balanced then?

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Bump

Still would like to have feedback on the setup in 13

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I still don't like the delayed vig. I want roles that can get confirmed guilties but not confirmed towns.
And I've realised that since Mafia is informed I don't have to worry about giving town a doctor.

How about...

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Indecisive Doctor
7 Vanilla Townie

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Does a babysitter ever show up guilty to a psychologist?

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Idk what to add

There’s just so few roles that don’t give hard innos, and that includes stuff like Jailkeeper which becomes a Cop once two Mafia die.

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How about adding a Vengeful

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Wait

What about a vengeful babysitter? That role is just so thematic because it gets a vengekill no matter how it dies.

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If we really need a huge injection in town power can we give town a backup watcher?

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I think a Babysitter would be nice but only if it doesn't show up guilty to the psychologist, which I wouldn't like

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Uh

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2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Indecisive Doctor
1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Rolecop}
6 Vanilla Townie

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Hmm I don't think a false psychologist guilty on a Vig is all that bad

There's the Watcher + Doc for town and Informed for scum

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On the other hand I don't want a Night 1 acting vig which could bring a lot of swing onto town
Which leaves us at:

2 Mafia Goon
1 Informed Mafia Goon (told the entire setup)
1 Town Watcher
1 Town Psychologist
1 Town Night 2+ Vig
1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}
6 Vanilla Townie

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Ok

(Is the JOAT necessary in this case?)

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Actually it probably is.

Will NSG be back?

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unfortunately as per the OP rc is only authorized to add sass in this thread

Can we change that?

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unfortunately as per the OP rc is only authorized to add sass in this thread

Can we change that?

Adding on to this

I don't see why the reviewers and their designations for primary/secondary need to be fixed at the start?

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Oh I never wrote role PMs

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Mafia Goon

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Mafia Goon

Your partners are Player (Mafia Goon) and Player (Informed Mafia Goon).

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
You may talk to your partners in the Mafia PT at any time.
Every Night, the Mafia may appoint one player to make the factionall nightkill.

Win condition:
You win when all Town-aligned players are dead, or nothing can prevent this.

Informed Mafia Goon

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are an

Informed Mafia Goon

Your partners are Player (Mafia Goon) and Player (Informed Mafia Goon).

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
You may talk to your partners in the Mafia PT at any time.
Every Night, the Mafia may appoint one player to make the factionall nightkill.
You know that this is the full setup:

• 2 Mafia Goons
  
• 1 Informed Mafia Goon
  
• 1 Town Watcher
  
• 1 Town Psychologist
  
• 1 Town Night 2+ Vigilante
  
• 1 Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}
  
• 6 Vanilla Townies

This information will not be revealed when you die.

Win condition:
You win when all Town-aligned players are dead, or nothing can prevent this.

(Note: "At least 1 Mafia is alive" is intentionally missing from the win condition to allow for the Mafia v Vig endgame)

Town Watcher

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Town Watcher

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Every Night, you may investigate a player. You will be told the names of all players who visited that player that Night.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead and there is at least one Town aligned player alive.

Spoiler: Result PMs

Result

These players visited Player last Night:

• Player 1
  
• Player 2
  
• Player 3

(No players is impossible because the Watcher must appear on the list)

No Result

Your action failed.

Town Psychologist

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Town Psychologist

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Every Night, you may investigate a player. You will be given a positive result if that player is capable of killing, but has not yet attempted a kill; you will be given a negative result otherwise.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead and there is at least one Town aligned player alive.

Spoiler: Result PMs

Result

Player tested

positive

.

Result

Player tested

negative

.

No Result

Your action failed.

Town Night 2+ Vigilante

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Town Night 2+ Vigilante

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
On every Night beginning from Night 2, you may kill a player.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead and there is at least one Town aligned player alive.

Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Town JOAT {Commuter, Roleblocker, Doctor}

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Every Night, you may use one of the following abilities:

• Commuter: You become untargetable by all actions this Night.
  
• Roleblocker: Block a player. That player will be prevented from carrying out any actions this Night.
  
• Doctor: Protect a player. That player will survive one kill attempt on them this Night.

You may use each of those abilites only once.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead and there is at least one Town aligned player alive.

Vanilla Townie

Welcome to Mini Normal XXXX, Player, you are a

Vanilla Townie

Abilities:
During the Day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.

Win condition:
You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead and there is at least one Town aligned player alive.

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Now that Vijarada is banned is this setup being given to someone else?