large normal 219: COOL NEW ANIMALS (done!!)

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Oh wow.

I forgot to subscribe to this thread.

My bad.

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At least you guys know I wasn’t active lurking.

Alright, guys.

Gimme the low down.

What’s the spiffy? Who’s scum? I want it from your perspectives before I give it through mine

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UNVOTE: Nomnom

1 scum on Wiz, 2 in the vanities

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VOTE: Nomnom

Actually, let’s put this back. See what this does.

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VOTE: Nomnom

Actually, let’s put this back. See what this does.

Probably not much tbh

We’ll see. It seems to be doing well. Not at surface level

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At least you guys know I wasn’t active lurking.

you could, in theory, lurk until you get prodded and then lie that you forgot about the game.

Fair.

But do you think I'd forget about a scum game/choose this path to go? Especially when I'm actually pretty active sitewide right now?

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Slow game for a large. I’ll do some digging tonight.

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Ate successful.

I think Wizard’s town.

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Ate successful.

I think Wizard’s town.

Serious. Off him. Time to wagon elsewhere.

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Axe says you're lying about your random and unneccessary roleclaim, what a shock

This probably comes from scum, but I won’t push off that.

I have a deep gut scum read on you, though for some reason, and my guts been good to me lately.

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I'm Krazy, FL, you always gutread me as scum.

VOTE: kidamn

Why don't we go here? Or give me a reason why this is not the path FL

I remembered who you were, but you’re right, I do always gut scum read you.

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But remember...my gut’s been...good. -.-

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I’m willing to hammer. A flip will just make it easier for me to get into this game and start analyzing. I don’t really have strong stances either way right now

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im being very lazy rn

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VOTE: Nomnomnom

Let’s just speed lynch this and move to Day 2.

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I have a super strong PR i wanna use.

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Just not feeling it, you know. Going all on gut

Been years with my alts, and I’m only now starting to alt slip.

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Just not feeling it, you know. Going all on gut

Been years with my alts, and I’m only now starting to alt slip.

It's okay, so long as you still have that boon charisma

I get lynched on Morality and scumread hard there, I don’t want that charisma.

It happens every Morality game. It’s definitely the avatar.

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That’s a town tell

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You’re just going to put yourself and your scum partners if you push forward with the line of thinking.

Just warning you now, haha

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Pushing me legitimately will trigger me into game solve mode which will start with giving you the Third Degree Boon.

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I'm just saying the resemblance to this other game...

Mini Normal 2062: Erinnerungen (um game over)

Indicates that you claim PR and wait for a hammer as scum.

Anyway, 4 people have claimed town PR, I would not be surprised if at least 2 of those are scum. TheWizard remains the lynch, people trying to take the wagon apart seems to indicate that he's scum, given none of these players reacted to the Skygazer lynch.

I was just playing to my town game there, the setup was just kinda rigged up.

And why are you bringing up just a single scum game and not any town games?

I claim town PR’s far more often as town than scum.

I claimed Day 3 IC in my last town game, and everyone knew I wasn’t actually that, even the scum team, but I was a 1-shot Vig.

I hit scum Night 2, and people still thought I was scum who shot my own partner to continue the gambit.

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I think Scum!FlavorLeaf probably means town!Wagonomics, so I have to town read wagonomics, but I really think one of them is scum.

What a mislynch trajectory path

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Also, I'm pretty sure that town!TheWizard = scum!Nero Cain, I don't think they're scum together, so that's a good clear when TheWizard flips scum. This is just based on how Nero reacted to the skygazer lynch vs this one.

Meant to quote this one too

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That’s also my only scum loss in like 2 years with a 9:4 in a normal game (i think 9:4 is either too townsided or too scum sided) and that one was too townsided, and I was fighting a guilty, so idk what that comparison is about at all.

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Also, I'm pretty sure that town!TheWizard = scum!Nero Cain, I don't think they're scum together, so that's a good clear when TheWizard flips scum. This is just based on how Nero reacted to the skygazer lynch vs this one.

Meant to quote this one too

You're the one who's trying to oppose the best wagon by voting nomnomnom when you're actually scum reading me. So why not put your vote there?

Ahhhh. Now it makes sense.

Continue your chainsaw.

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Wanna speed lynch Axe?

VOTE: Axehole

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honestly VOTE: thewizard we arent going to get anywhere until something flips. and this gives us the most info even if its town

This deflection, though

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If you're town, vote TheWizard and if he flips town, you can lynch me right away tomorrow, I won't even post. Like shit... It's not possible for him to flip town.

I don’t like that mindset because it implies there’s no world where you’re TvT which makes me lean scum for you.

Nobody should be that certain day 1.

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Flavor Leaf is also scum, so we can lynch him next once TheWizard flips

town

.

See

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He just got Third Degree Boon’d.

He’s scum.

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Wanna speed lynch Axe?

VOTE: Axehole

You sound desperate for a lynch.

How about going for the fastest one instead?

I wouldn’t call it desperate. It’s more of a “I’m just gonna post whatever nonsense I feel like until a lynch goes through and gamesolve after Day 1”

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@Flavor Leaf, when you get dealt a bad scum bud, you should bus. Just fyi.

Well, I’m consistent as scum. Too consistent, so another town tell, I guess.

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Chicken’s town

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Yeah, you’re pushing me. You just aren’t voting me

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I can’t mention why, but I see Wizard as the type who messes around as town an will claim randomly early games.

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Because wagonomics

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Kinda my thing

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Because wagonomics

Everyone in my PoE is still off the wagon at L-2, so thats a good sign.

Sign that you’re probably wrong if you’re town.

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Wrong on some of the people on the wagon*

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Nero Cain, Krazy, Boonskiies have 23 years of site experience together.

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That it’s a mislynch, and you’re probably town too.

Nobody’s taking the bait and jumping on you yet, though

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You were already obvtown. That doesn’t make you town.

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Also, I'm super obviously town, so I'm glad you finally came to that conclusion (yet are still voting me).. anyway, from your experience...

What are the odds that you die tomorrow if TheWizard does in fact flip scum?

Zero

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It’s zero...i’ll Just claim Day 3 IC if I seem to be going down

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It’s zero...i’ll Just claim Day 3 IC if I seem to be going down

Oh, you think a claim will save you, that's cute.

I don’t really get lynched, man.

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Did kid just accuse BOON of setting up chain lynches?

Are we reading the same game? LOL

He quoted a bunch of my fluff posts with it.

When I said wagonomics, I wasn’t even talking about you.

Was talking about literally the science of wagonomics.

They act like I’m not obviously gonna hammer Wiz when he gets to L-1.

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Also 930 was a play on words

Oh. I should have read the next post first

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Wagonomics - Boon - Nero - Skygazer - Axehole can be the town block for now.

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Kid is probably scum who’s upset for being scum read for reasons. They don’t should be there.

Anyone see Brooklyn 99? They get caught because they’re proud of how good their work is so when someone is implying they’ve been sloppy it’s offensive.

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@Sick - if one of wagon or myself are scum theother will catch it soon enough

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You still think he’s messing around FL?

Yeah

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Can we lynch Axe and see if he has a guilty or not, and if he really does, we Sheep on Wiz?

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Because other than that, there’s nothing here that makes me think Wiz is scum ever

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Why is Wiz town?

I have actual reasons, but I can’t talk about them right now

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Fair, but I was heavily scum read there.

And it was obvious.

But every other time I’ce Been lynched on Morality. I’m 2-1 as scum with Morality, that was the first game I endgames as scum

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At least I’m conf town now

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Anyone who knows me well against me just trollin’ it out until it’s time for deep solves?

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@Flavor of the Future

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Put Performer a step up on that list

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I don’t agree with the nomnom or the chicken just yet.

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Anyone who knows me well against me just trollin’ it out until it’s time for deep solves?

but what if you die?!? lead us Boon!

Hmm. Fair. I am being rather town read despite me not putting much effort here.

I never make that Wagonomics kill here, Axehole is townie, but is he scum projecting townieness, or just town.

His early comments this day phase his me to that projecting side.

Performer’s town because that’s an anti scum agenda he’s pushing out.

I want to say skygazer is town, but I’m not locked into that. I could see her reads list being entirely political.

If Nero’ scum, I’m going to get pocketed, so I’m town reading Nero, but he will fall through the cracks for me.

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TheWizard

(8): NotAnAxehole, rosterfoster,

NerfedBuJ

, nomnomnom, EeveeLution Army, bob3141, Sickofit1138,

Skygazer

NerfedBuj (2):

Nero Cain

, Performer
NotAnAxehole (2):

TheWizard

, Flavor Leaf
Performer (1): RuiRui
KidAmn (1):

Wagonomics

Wagonomics (1): KidAmn

I think we should blue those as conditional, even though I am leaning towards them just being conftown.

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I think thewizard wagon could have 3 scum on it.

If Bujaber and Axehole are both town, though, that means if Perf is town, both their wagons were all town, and I don’t see that specific scenario happening.

Which is why Axehole is probably scum. However, that meant he power scum’d almost needlessly, so that lowers his scum equity.

Nomnom, we’ve, sickofit, Bob should be the lynch today. One of them.

Hard tinfoil theory that I don’t believe: Skygazer, NerfedBuj, Nero

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Oh, it’s a large, probably 4 scum.

Nice. Yeah, I think 3 scum are on the wagon still, and 1 in RuiRui/Kid

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We’ve* was Eevee

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VOTE: Eevee

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Oh, we’re only 15 players.

Hmm. That might change some things.

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Nomnom’s scum ^

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UNVOTE: Eevee

Which means Eevee probably isn’t.

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NerfedBuJ,

KidAmn

, TheWizard,

RuiRui, bob3141, Sickofit1138, ELA

With bob and ela contenders for town.

Leaves me with 3 scum in 5 names. I kinda don't like rui for scum but I haven't analyzed him deeply enough to rebut performer atm.

That being said wiz would not be my first pick in those remaining 5 names but it seems like not a lot are on board with a kid lynch

I think if we bracketed off axe and his tunnel I'd say today's lynch should be in sick and buj.

But I'm not actually sure which of the two is scum, maybe sick, I just kinda feel like there's a scum in those two. Maybe sick. Hmmm.

I don't feel strongly enough to stop a wiz lynch tho. Meh.

Well, what do you know.

Bob and Eevee could have killed in there to frame, but I think it’s more likely scum is in the others.

One of Kid/RuiRui is possible. Never both.

Bob/sick/Eevee have 1 scum, maybe 2

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dont think scum-FL would need to dumbtell here

ScumFL would already know the game. I also never kill Krazy here, at least not night 1

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One of Kid/RuiRui is possible. Never both.

y not?

TheWizard was a bad wagon. I knew that from just glancing at the game. Also it went near deadline, correct? Scum are hopped on at the ladder half.

Kid/RuiRui weren’t on the wagon at all, and they were both on Vanities.

Scum made the decision probably to let Axe take the heat from the Wiz wagon, which probably means Axe is town.

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Wait, Nero cain’s Green on himself threw me off. That isn’t necessarily an all town wagon on Axehole meaning 1 or Performer/Nero could be scum in place of RuiRui/Kid.

1 scum in Nero/Performer/Rui/Kid then.

I town read the first two, but this is for completionists sake.

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sure I can buy that but that doesn't mean that kid and rui rui can't be scum together.

Sure, but I think there’s more than 1 scum on the wizard wagon.

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Dude performer sell me on kid town because I do not see that at all

It’s probably Kid.

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Roster, Nomnom, Eevee, Bob, sickofit

I believe have 2 scum, possibly all 3.

If not all 3, 1 is in Performer/Nero/Rui/Kid, probably the ladder half.

I guess gotta just narrow down now.

What are some reasons to town read any of those players of the 5

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We’ll call the 5 of em the Wizard Killers.

We need reasons to town read some of the Wizkillers.

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VOTE: Nomnom

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In what world do i make it to Day 6

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Is this an open...?

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No cop no psycho no ninj no trait, 12:3. Other than that there could be a doc

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One of Eevee and Nomnom lock scum

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Idk how you can say that so confidently.

One of Eevee and Nomnom lock scum

How?

Wagonomics 101

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No cop no psycho no ninj no trait, 12:3. Other than that there could be a doc

No doc.

I disagree; I’m the Doctor of Wagonomics.

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I don’t think Kid and Rui Rui are both scum

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@Flavor Leaf, I know you want to vote with me.

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catch up 2nite

are we really doing sick over bob

well until Axe runs out of lynchbait

I have no other lynch options, this is all or nothing for me. I am pretty confident, similar degree to TheWizard fake claim.

I mean, I was confident it was a fake claim, but I was also confident it was coming from town.

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Idk, I think bob’s town too.

I could go Sick. Not on my priority list, but still on a list, but not the A list. I’m on the A list

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Sky’s pinging me a bit actually.

I mean, sure, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. It wasn’t even an i sensed it kind of thing.

That was just me correctly reading the type of player Wizard was and going from there.

I was playing the game instead of going into the etiquette.

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flavor leaf is an A list star like Robert Downey Jr.

Axe is a D lister like that Kathy Griffin.


@nom, town "lie" all the fucking time. Your "if they lie they must be scum!" seems like a p scummy stance.

Nomnom is likely scum.

I think I’m still voting there.

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Nomnom, one of Kid/Rui, Skygazer, one of Eevee/Roster?

I think that’s my way too early Day 2 solve.

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Could be wrong with Skygazer, and could be one of Performer or Axe in that slot, but I generally think Perf and Axe are town. Later in the game, might change that, though, or solidify it more.

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flavor leaf is an A list star like Robert Downey Jr.

Axe is a D lister like that Kathy Griffin.


@nom, town "lie" all the fucking time. Your "if they lie they must be scum!" seems like a p scummy stance.

Nomnom is likely scum.

I think I’m still voting there.

Pretty sure we're lynching Sickofit today, if he flips scum, we lynch his associated partner tomorrow

Maybe. Depends if I wanna powertown or not.

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Why is it a near lock?

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If Bob is scum, it’s a near lock for town

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Skygazer and Sickofit are definitely not scum together.

Idk.

I’m not opposed to sickofit, but something feels a little off.

I don’t think I make it to Day 3.

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FTR I'm still not sure I buy into the only one of Kid and rui rui is scum.

Yeah, that’s fine.

I’m not 100% sold on that either, but that’s just where my reads are at the moment.

I expect to flip and flop the next couple day phases if I’m alive.

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Oh yeah, only 3.

I’m so town, lol.

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I think I’m okay with Sick.

I wanna do some stuff, maybe a Last Night Tomorrow.

We got time. We can talk it out.

Sick, can you just claim now so we don’t have to wagon you

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Well FL? What's that odd feeling you have?

I'm curious.

You

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Sky

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He is from Canada.

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He is from Canada.

HAHAHA, sorry, been watching How I Met Your Mother. I actually think canada is super cool

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Page 62 is probably all town

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UNVOTE: Nomnom

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Actually, BuJ can be scum in a world where Skygazer is VT, because fake claiming as VT is common apparently

i take offense that you think i'd play this badly

again, i'd never inno someone as VT

What was your claim again?

Weak friendly neighbor?

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disloyal friendly neighbor

And he didn’t get a message?

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Where did you first claim friendly neighbor, I can’t seem to find it.

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Damn, that’s a good fake claim. Not saying it is here, but damn, hat’s a good fake claim.

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Sick is an alright lynch.

Even if he is scum, it’s only alright.

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Lol I’m never scum here

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But i appreciate the Night Kill protection.

When I get home from work tonight, I’m gonna do a solve.

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I even said I know I could be wrong one the one of scum thing, but i just don’t feel there was more than 1 off the wiz wagon

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it seems like he's drawing attention away from where we should be focusing today (the wizard wagon)

she's not talking about who we should be lynching on the Wiz wagon.

Even if there's scum on the Wizard wagon (which I think there might not be) its still the largest concentration of town and she'd have the most mislynch bait.

And she seems to think that scum is me, performer, and ??? So she's literally hunting for a singular scum in a group of 8. That's some massive chainlynching right there.

THIs is actually impossible unless you think 3 of 5 scum are in Performer, you, me, Rui, kid

And even if you feel that is possible, that should likely show that that’s wrong strictly because of how against Wiz I was, which will be confirmed post game that I damn well meant it, and had an accurate read on the a lot.

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That’s like not even something I’m going to open for consideration. I’m barely open for consideration on 2 off of the wagon, so i don’t understand the concept behind it being weird i think only one of Kid or Rui is scum.

I believe there very much to be 2 on the Wiz wagon. 1 scum doesn’t make it through there, even with Axe’s incessant pushing

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Bob’s town

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Reminds me of flippyNips, but posting more

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I’m down for SickofIt.

I’ll throw a vote down tonight unless my deep analysis does something.

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THIs is actually impossible unless you think 3 of 5 scum are in Performer, you, me, Rui, kid

ummm there are only 3 scum here. All combos of you/rui/kid, kid/rui/performer make plenty of sense potentially. Although the idea of a rui/axe/kid hasn't escaped my mind either.

I don’t know. I don’t think that’s very likely at all, tbh.

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Guess that’s just a difference in reads kind of thing.

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VOTE: Rui rui

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Nah, I’m town. I’m just not really playing.

Zero chance of this being scum me.

You even just saw how much I put in as scum.

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That’s just total bs on your part no matter the alignment

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well, i don’t feel like fighting this. I’m overgammed and modding two games right now, so do whatever.

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You’re wrong lol.

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well, i don’t feel like fighting this. I’m overgammed and modding two games right now, so do whatever.

Then vote Sickofit with us and let's lynch faster. What's the point of 2 week deadlines other than to make players replace out?

To allow players who don’t post everyday to post more. Makes the games matter more too because of the time commitment. Also can be used as a tactic.

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You’re wrong lol.

Just like last game

Yeah, but I mean, it’s hard when you’re essentially a scum team of 1 in a crazy game.

And I’m vastly different here than I was there.

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well, i don’t feel like fighting this. I’m overgammed and modding two games right now, so do whatever.

Then vote Sickofit with us and let's lynch faster. What's the point of 2 week deadlines other than to make players replace out?

To allow players who don’t post everyday to post more. Makes the games matter more too because of the time commitment. Also can be used as a tactic.

Well, it seems like the 2 weeks fails to accomplish its calling.

Well, that’s on the players. Sucks in the present time, but in hindsight it’s cool.

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Sickofit’s too mainstream.

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I just had a busy work week and haven’t gone home yet and haven’t been able to do the analysis.

Not blindly voting.

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I also never kill Krazy Night 1 here. Ever. I just don’t get to play with him then and there’s a lot of use in having him here for me.

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Sickofit

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Sickofit

It's about time

I was going for the good ol’ FL catchphrase. Did somebody say L-1

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I think we lynch Eevee tomorrow if Sickofit flips town.

%^#%%#@$&@

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I’m conf town

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I’m salty I was killed.

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I knew something was off with that claim. I felt it in my jellies.