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[Ankamius]

wait a minute...

what was my PoI list?

[Ankamius]

that's a spicy gamestate read

[Ankamius]

I'm pretty sure wilky+ddl is never a thing this game

[Ankamius]

nah I did my special patented day 1 pre-flip vca shenanigans

[Ankamius]

but no there's a particular thing that happened that's obvious in the VCs that makes it very unlikely they're scum together

[Ankamius]

why should a single association read do anything in particular to my overall reads

???

[Ankamius]

it doesn't change a whole lot

I don't know much of anything about your scum range

[Ankamius]

sorry

I learned a long time ago that I need to be careful about reads like that

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sheldon

[Ankamius]

The contract is fulfilled. Our will must be known. Kill!

[Ankamius]

Sleepy boy disapproves of our contract. Evasive maneuvers must be attempted. Retreat!

UNVOTE: Sheldon

[Ankamius]

Guest Book:
Vedith TTTT - ???
Pretentious RadiantCowbells - SEAL -> ???
Emperor flippyNips Carmen** - MUSE -> ???
Shiidaji - COWBIRD
DrDolittle - BEAR
Sashaddin - GREEN
Creature - MONSTER
Ankamius MaryJoLisa FRECKLE -> LAMB
wilky - RABBIT
BrightEyedFish - FISH
Sheldon Cooper PhD - BRAIN
insomnia - SLEEPY BOY

[Ankamius]

Protection for myself is not needed. My own words and my own actions shall be my shield. It is so!

[Ankamius]

it was actually pretty fun figuring all that shit out

and it makes reading through macabre's posting a lot less painful

[Ankamius]

btw assuming I'm right in who you are

why the fuck would you make an alt like this?

[Ankamius]

Sleepy boy's usage of the prose and the phrasing is lacking. Sleepy boy must train more to reach enlightenment. Ascend!

[Ankamius]

Macabre pretty much slapped me over the face with the fact that they're an alt, yes

[Ankamius]

eh

[Ankamius]

I'll be back tomorrow

[Ankamius]

lead me macabre

[Ankamius]

my spirit has been ripped away

[Ankamius]

well ok

what should I be looking at

[Ankamius]

I already think DDL is town again

lol

[Ankamius]

sasha might be decent info actually

not sure it's optimal tho

[Ankamius]

Sasha scum = wilky scum probably?

[Ankamius]

uhhhhh yeah now that I really look at it

Sasha looks like a wagon that scum are trying to dismantle and DDL is the designated counterwagon

I can't tell yet whether the DDL wagon is scum-led or scum-sheeped though, which is a bit ominous for this interpretation :V

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Shiidaji

why is this not dead yet

[Ankamius]

that switch from sasha into ddl is legit like

really bad

[Ankamius]

the sasha wagon has less raw resistance but the wagon keeps shifting over and over again
the ddl wagon is pretty consistent but just has a lot of raw resistance to it

errrrrrrrrrrm

[Ankamius]

might be worth looking at how those wagons started consolidating maybe

[Ankamius]

anka, can you tell me why your read on insomnia is town? cause he seems really scummy from my perspective

I remember this being a really town post

[Ankamius]

{TTTT, DDL, Creature, BEF}
{Shii, Sheldon}
{RC, Macabre, Ank, insom} - Null.
{Sash, wilky}


Looking for disagreement on these.

hmmmmm...

[Ankamius]

like at one point or another

TTTT
RadiantCowbells
Carmen
Shiidaji
DrDolittle
Sashaddin
Macabre
Creature
MaryJoLisa
wilky
BrightEyedFish
Sheldon Cooper PhD
insomnia

I've found every1 here except wilky to do something that struck me as town n I'm in a ;/ mood about it

TTTT what are you thinking atm?

everytime I think I've found scum
they start acting town

^^^ I don't think both of these are town.

[Ankamius]

I'm liking Shiidaji less and less the more I find about them again :V

[Ankamius]

also a brief glance at wilky's iso again makes me think he's town with bad reads

So you first scum read wilky based on his iso

And now you town read him based on the very same posts that you’ve seen the first time?

this post is gross in hindsight

[Ankamius]

yeah I think I'm swinging back to wilky leaning scum again

something about his trajectories in the catch up around that time rings really fake to me

[Ankamius]

Vote Count 1.12

votes

DrDolittle [5]

: Sheldon Cooper PhD, insomnia, Sashaddin, wilky, Shiidaji

Sashaddin [4]

: Emperor flippyNips, BrightEyedFish, Vedith, DrDolittle

Shiidaji [2]

: Creature, Pretentious

Sheldon Cooper PhD [1]

: Macabre

Not Voting [1]

: Ankamius

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

The Day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-04-13 12:44:08)

tbh now that I'm not really townreading wilky anymore, that DDL wagon looks disgusting

[Ankamius]

I don't think scum have tried to take the lead so much this game as of yet

[Ankamius]

yeah VC 1.7

I'd bet that none of those double wagons are SvS

[Ankamius]

flippynips do you have more than just those two reads?

[Ankamius]

my reads are really jumbled

..

[Ankamius]

I'm like 80% certain Shiidaji is a scumslot though

[Ankamius]

are you syaing you think wilky+insomnia are scum together?

[Ankamius]

is DDl really lynched

[Ankamius]

good job on your wasted d1 townlynch

see you tomorrow

[Ankamius]

I do scum read him but your hammer followed by ank trying to get town cred before the flip although she barely defended DDL tells me she wanted the lynch and wanted to look town while not defending DDL so hard that he’d get off a lynch

what?

[Ankamius]

that statement literally makes no sense

what?

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sheldon

[Ankamius]

insomnia how do you reconcile wanting to lynch DDL and thinking that I wanted towncred off his lynch

[Ankamius]

As soon as the spotlight is on you, you start posting huh

Funny

Where were you all this time?

me?

[Ankamius]

go ahead and point it out then, because all I'm seeing is more "ank wanted towncred off the lynch!!!" and you still wanting to lynch DDL anyways

[Ankamius]

DDL you have 24 hours to claim a role and town case yourself, otherwise I’m gathering my troops and we’ll riot

?

[Ankamius]

ok NOW I understand what you're coming from

and no DDL is just town, I'm not interested in lynching now

[Ankamius]

it tells him whether the target has a PT

[Ankamius]

now that DDL is obvtown, can you unvote

[Ankamius]

it doesn't.

[Ankamius]

this exact same scenario popped up in lynch the wolves

the official answer was that if I was investigated, my private PT would not count

[Ankamius]

me?

[Ankamius]

DrDolittle [5]

: Sashaddin, wilky, Sheldon Cooper PhD, Creature, BrightEyedFish

can we lynch in here please

I strongly doubt this wagon is all town.

[Ankamius]

like

very strongly doubt.

I think the scum on it is wilky but Sheldon probably has better odds of actually getting enough support to push through so

[Ankamius]

actually sasha might not be a bad lynch either

[Ankamius]

xx

Vote: Pretentious

I know this prolly isn't happening today but I wish xx

I still haven't changed my mind on sheldon being in my townleans so I'd rather not vote there.


I lost my RC slot townread again, Pretentious is really scummy.

I naked voted DDL to try and feel out some reactions on anyone that thinks I'm scum and how they feel about me being on DDL instead of Sash.
{BEF Sheldon Insom DDL Sash Pretentious and Macabre} all had ample time to react negatively to it or even poke at it. Ank was the only one to bring it up first, which makes sense, because Ank is the only one besides creature I feel legitimately thinks I'm scum. From my perspective and given the state of the game, I've been expecint scum to want to set up their suspicion on me today so that I'm a viable target on D2 or D3.

It made sense for Insom and Sash to not kneejerk question it since they prefer the DDL push. I expected the people that scumread me to immediately question it though, and Pretentious didn't. (While Macabre didn't either they immediately responded to Ank and i think Macab is town so w.e)


Ank I'm asking you, do you think Pretentious's read progression on DDL is natural?

Flip to page 89 in yr textbooks

Pretentious's views expressed thus far in thread: DDL town, insom misguided town, sash scum

Akarin then posts VC 1.11 which has Sash at L-2 and DDL Sheldon Shii wagons available

I need to put the time in discerning which, if any, of DDL/Sasha is scum. I do believe that they aren’t S/S, and nothing’s probably going to convince me otherwise.

That being said, I believe there to be scum in Crow, Dr D, The Creat, or Ankypoo, and then probably one on each of Sasha/DDL.

DDL/Shidaji//Wilky is sort of standing out to me for some reason. I’m looking for patterns within the vote counts.

I think i’m Okay with Shiidaji.

VOTE: Shiidaji

The above posts were all within the span of two minutes, but they feel prompted as a result of the posted Votecount. 2208 "I'm looking for patterns within the vote counts" feels very weak to me and there was little to no explanation provided ever since. I feel that because the Votecount was posted Pretentious just saw that there were alternative wagons available and chose one of them to scumread because of whatever the aforementioned agenda might be.

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Ankamius]

I mean

Pretentious' content is not very good

but at the same time they're not really a high priority sort since I kinda feel that's self-resolving in the long term

[Ankamius]

DDL can you check wilky?

[Ankamius]

I still haven't read the majority of the game from before I replaced in

[Ankamius]

I think I feel better about my carmen townread now

[Ankamius]

macabre is town

[Ankamius]

because I think I have figured out who they are

and if I'm correct, then their approach to the game is strongly in their townrange

[Ankamius]

you're right

I'm scum for townreading your scumreading

good work skipper

[Ankamius]

it's so great that I even grammar much correctly

[Ankamius]

insomnia please quote the posts you're responding to or at least give an indication of who you're engaging

this is the third time I've been confused whether you're talking to me or not

[Ankamius]

that's usually what I do when I'm in lynch danger, insomnia

I look to see who the scum is on my wagon and 360 noscope them

the problem is

all the slots pushing me when I replaced in was town except for TTTT, who I was iffy on.

[Ankamius]

you're also ignoring that I pressured Macabre briefly, who had also voted me immediately after I replaced in.

I didn't just townread all the scumreads, I sorted them.

[Ankamius]

What’s with this animosity

@Ank

snark is how I tell people that a specific point is ridiculous

[Ankamius]

You can go ahead and try to lynch me if you want

[Ankamius]

If I'm right on who macabre is, they're the player most likely to read me correctly in this playerlist. This is provable to some extent by how they play around me in the thread.

The second most likely is Creature, and he's been pretty obvious in how he's reading me.

I think nobody else here has >rand odds of sorting me correctly

[Ankamius]

You can go ahead and try to lynch me if you want

Is this a scum claim

It's a claim that I'm confident you will not succeed.

[Ankamius]

You'd be surprised how many people scumread me for the most ridiculous reasons on a regular basis

[Ankamius]

In reality, Ank is a good scum player as well and managed to get RC to change his mind regarding her alignment.

what?

this is news to me

[Ankamius]

...that's unique to my towngame

I have no charisma as scum and I play around that fact to direct the game flow where I want it to go so that town doesn't have time to put me under the spotlight on the first place.

[Ankamius]

@Mod: V/LA until 4/27

it shouldn't drastically affect my ability to be here but I can't guarantee I'll be here mentally

[Ankamius]

that entire post falls apart when you realize that the claim has nothing to do with why the wagon fell apart

[Ankamius]

and uh

a player that is not a PR threat and has a tendency to get scumread really easily is someone you wouldn't powerwolf to rush a L-1 on

[Ankamius]

*openwolf

[Ankamius]

shrug

[Ankamius]

that entire post falls apart when you realize that the claim has nothing to do with why the wagon fell apart

you are right - but - i think people are now voting sash because "you dont vote a claimed PR" - well - obviously scum are going to keep claiming PRs to not get lynched and we are going to just circle back on sash if you think like that... DDL is still the scum here... BEF too but... alas.

DDL also claimed a PR that is self-resolving

[Ankamius]

I'm not interested in a BEF lynch sorry

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Shiidaji

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sashaddin

[Ankamius]

flashlynch me creature <3

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sashaddin

This is L-1

[Ankamius]

yo can we get a flip

[Ankamius]

that was to the other players

mb

[Ankamius]

so

everybody in this game that is currently not voting sashaddin

can we get a flip

[Ankamius]

I'm going to bed and I'm going to riot if there's no hammer before I wake up

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sheldon Cooper

[Ankamius]

Macabre what would you say if I told you I have a solve

[Ankamius]

I want to see what DDL says before outing what it is

[Ankamius]

Insomnia is town, leave it please

[Ankamius]

Yes

[Ankamius]

I will be clear here

Sheldon is actually my second most confident scumread since he's in a dichotomy with another player for this spot on the scumteam

but the top scumread is not useful to the game dead and if I die n2, I'd rather leave the game with two obvscum in the worst case scenario

[Ankamius]

I want to see what DDL says before outing what it is

How would DDL influence your theory? Unless he’s a scum read as well, I don’t see how his check can influence your story. You’ve already voted your scum read as well, I understand waiting for DDL to post his check before I say anything or vote anyone.

If you wanted to confirm a belief, you shouldn’t have voted. Now it’s too late. So just tell us your theory, DDL posts in like 24 hours or so anyways

It's not a complete solve

Just knowing who he targeted and what the result is can be very indicative.

[Ankamius]

Yay that simplifies some things

[Ankamius]

Check wilky please

[Ankamius]

That's not too far from my PoE actually

[Ankamius]

:thonk:

[Ankamius]

it's telling me that I'm very confused why you think Vedith is town

[Ankamius]

because actually... Vedith is top scumspect

\o/

[Ankamius]

ftr I was assuming DDR was town with my solving so if Sheldon actually is a VT or whatever

then I'll have a different solve tomorrow

[Ankamius]

insomnia:

stay strong and stay the course, you have earned one more friend than you initially assumed

[Ankamius]

btw insomnia what did you do to get this playstyle read on me

I feel like you've dug a bit on how I play during the night

[Ankamius]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

it's actually a lot more complex than that but it's hard to tell just from my personal PTs

[Ankamius]

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=76819

[Ankamius]

I assume my fallout 4 one?

[Ankamius]

:V

[Ankamius]

I think I need another reality check

Bonus for cat pix

[Ankamius]

That cat is beautiful

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: Sheldon

I want my cat pix

[Ankamius]

Where is pretentious anyways

[Ankamius]

macabre is town

Still think this?

we shall see

[Ankamius]

oh holy shit I just looked back at pretentious and that single day 2 post is horrendous

[Ankamius]

like pretentious might actually shake my RC locktown read

if ANY thought is scary, it's that

[Ankamius]

usually I'm all for leaving obvscum alive but I kinda feel like solving this dichotomy is more important than that atm

[Ankamius]

do you think the opportunity cost is worth it

because that kinda depends on how long all the power towns survive and how many of them are not town in the first place

[Ankamius]

because ngl, I think we have enough of those to where we don't need to do much gambling, that's generally the type of approach I advocate when there is very little time before the strongest town players all get nuked

[Ankamius]

Macabre could you tell me your entire reads list please

[Ankamius]

Macabre pleeeeeease tell me when you are fully caught up to the game please

[Ankamius]

Macabre pleeeeeease tell me when you are fully caught up to the game please

This lamb's efforts to slow down the process of this execution have been noted. Your trial will commence in due time. Chop!

the fuck does this even mean

[Ankamius]

who will save me from the big bad monster?

[Ankamius]

idk how I feel about being the sacrificial lamb for a philosophical question like this

[Ankamius]

UNVOTE: Sheldon

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Macabre

Crossbow loaded and I'm ready

[Ankamius]

:THONK:

[Ankamius]

I'm pretty certain that Macabre is not who I think they are

[Ankamius]

...........................................WHAT LOL

[Ankamius]

I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM WHO YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU'RE LITERALLY LOCKTOWN IF YOU ARE

[Ankamius]

I'm still confused as to when I've ever althunted as scum

[Ankamius]

when is it my turn to die

can I at least be the last scum first

[Ankamius]

so are you who I think you are or are you not

[Ankamius]

I wish I was that good at the game

I'd finally have a reason to never play it again

[Ankamius]

if certain players are cleared, then the gamestate is actually really easy to figure out and Vedith becomes near lockscum just from that by itself

[Ankamius]

Creature, Macabre, you, DDL

[Ankamius]

oh I was hitting a snag so I just assumed my RC townread was correct too and that like instantly hit a full scumteam within 4 players

so

[Ankamius]

a scumflip would probably break open the game for me tbh

[Ankamius]

uhhhh I'm getting my notes confused

I actually just had it as Vedith + Sheldon + wilky in that case

I threw a lot of teams together in that time

[Ankamius]

~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~
~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~
~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~

I did all this during the night

~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~
~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~
~~~SCUM META ALERT~~~

[Ankamius]

90% of the time I do shit like this during night I'm scum

[Ankamius]

you should've been in anuket then

I didn't tell a single lie about my meta but I rattled the hell out of everyone anyways

[Ankamius]

am I scum yet macabre

[Ankamius]

your posts are just decipherable enough that I can understand roughly what you're getting at

but the way you jump from thought to thought makes it impossible to link them together WHILE being that level of decipherable

[Ankamius]

and you pretty blatantly skipped over the post I directly prodded at you with

and the reasons you're trying to pressure or scumread me or whatever are completely incongruent with how the person I initially thought you were would respond to me

your entire play doesn't match how they would play

so now I'm not entirely sure how to even begin trying to sort you because your content directly literally is not readable to me if I can't even link any of your posting together or to anything else

so what exactly are you expecting from me

[Ankamius]

and tbh I find it really interesting that you'd call me althunting a scumtell when you basically slapped me upside the head that I should know you almost immediately after I replaced into the game

[Ankamius]

creature carry me

macabre is being weird

[Ankamius]

I'm not too far from that

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Sheldon

[Ankamius]

I'm pretty sure this game is going to be won before the powertowns all die

It's really unnecessary to do extra shenanigans

[Ankamius]

Macabre what are your reads

[Ankamius]

all in one place please

[Ankamius]

Oh all those posts yesterday were literally for this one question?

[Ankamius]

You're upset

[Ankamius]

Being a Mason was fun even though I kinda lost it a few times

Gg

[Ankamius]

good call!
ank is one of the best town players onsite. creature is awesome too. and yeah, totally agreed; if vedith was on our side there was just too much going for town.

I don't understand this when I don't think I've had any decent town games until this one

[Ankamius]

Specifically this year sorry

[Ankamius]

:V

Either way I don't think there's anything in the mason PT I would want redacted, iirc I was pretty tame in there

[Ankamius]

You had a good run vedith

[Ankamius]

Just going through the N1 thread again and holy shit we were pretty much on point

[Ankamius]

The mason thread sorry

[Ankamius]

FL what is Pretentious' avatar from