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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 1:48 am

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In post 1119, Exilon wrote:It's as if you're saying posting a lot of supportive evidence is easily faked.
And yet I never fail to post an analysis and conclusions I reach from the information I gather, and at the very least I also follow up on it.

As opposed to, you know, fencesitting all day.
I think this is a personality/playstyle thing. For some people, posting an analytical post like that as scum would be close to impossible, and they may prefer to interact in real time.

For other people (cough me cough) it's about a bajillion times easier to interact with the thread as scum with those sorts if posts.

I dont know u. I dont know ur playstyle. I'm saying that i do think scum can write those kinds of posts and that those posts are fakeable for some people, and that they read similarly to posts i make sometimes as scum.

They're high-effort and a lot of words and some scum use this sort of thing to interface with the thread
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 1:50 am

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In post 1120, Exilon wrote:EBWOP: And putting your money where your mouth is
damn
Not fence-sitting. Changing my mind. On balance i don't think this looks like sash's scumgame, even if he is being kinda scummy in a vaccum. + the vast support is making me a bit wary/spooked too.

So now i need to start broadening my search for scum and i'm doing that by focusing on people i haven't really sorted yet
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 1:51 am

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In post 1115, High Risk Gamble wrote:VOTE: Skitter

This is where we really should be lynching today.
And I don't want to vote outside of Skitter, Bob, and Ausuka either.
I have a strong town read on two of those, skitter is a nullish at the momment.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 2:24 am

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In post 1123, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1119, Exilon wrote:Usually, I'm not expecting scum to decide to nightkill someone that they've been pushing for during the day. a) They prove their read wrong; b) they force themselves to find other targets to push and fake more reasoning and scumreads. So yeah, I'd give someone twoncred for that if it happened.
Ok fair enough. I was kinda thinking that if someone's scumread got nk'd that meand their reads are bad kinda holistically so i wouldnt really give them towncred for having wrong reads.

I don't know if i would give people towncred for this really.

Exilon how were u reading channel at eod?
CDB always read town to me.
In post 1125, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1119, Exilon wrote:It's as if you're saying posting a lot of supportive evidence is easily faked.
And yet I never fail to post an analysis and conclusions I reach from the information I gather, and at the very least I also follow up on it.

As opposed to, you know, fencesitting all day.
I think this is a personality/playstyle thing. For some people, posting an analytical post like that as scum would be close to impossible, and they may prefer to interact in real time.

For other people (cough me cough) it's about a bajillion times easier to interact with the thread as scum with those sorts if posts.

I dont know u. I dont know ur playstyle. I'm saying that i do think scum can write those kinds of posts and that those posts are fakeable for some people, and that they read similarly to posts i make sometimes as scum.

They're high-effort and a lot of words and some scum use this sort of thing to interface with the thread
Ok; I get it; I do have one question though.
And this feels a bit like day1 deja vu but:
you once again react to a post of mine by latching more to its form rather than its content, but then you don't do much with the content itself, which I feel isn't aligned with your claimed willingness to sort people and broaden your search.
And by that I mean, what do you think of the points I raised about Egix?
Feels like I've been here before.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 2:34 am

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In post 1082, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1063, Egix96 wrote:
In post 987, Garmr wrote:Bob is town.
In post 991, Inferno390 wrote:Yeah Bob is town here.
In post 1006, skitter30 wrote:i think bob is town
Whatever you three are seeing, I'm not seeing it...
feels like a real thought process
In post 1086, skitter30 wrote:i can track his thought process from post to post and his posts holistically make sense as a whole
like i feel like i can understand how he's approaching the game
In post 1091, skitter30 wrote:sorry maybe i explained wrong

egix is asking me (and inferno and garmr) what i see in bob
i'm saying that bob's posts feel like real thougth processes (that i imagine would be kinda hard for newbscum to fake)

i'm not commenting on egix's thought processes, i don't think he's said much unfakeable really
Yeah NGL I did think that you were talking about me for a moment there.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:24 am

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In post 1067, Inferno390 wrote:And what am I now?
Not sure yet. The fact that Rui flipped town, followed by a weird-arse nightkill, has me really doubting my reads at this point.
In post 1068, Exilon wrote: a) from your own posting and actions your suspicion of cdb was fading at the same time you were calling him scummy. Like literally the same post. Even putting that aside, you're not justfiying here how exactly your suspicion faded. You're just saying it did, which is the same conclusion me and anyone can reach by looking at your ISO.

b) What is this even addressing? Once again, you're just stating what happened. Worst to me is that you're not even addressing the main reason of why I found that to be dissonant.
a) IIRC the main reason why my CDB suspicion faded was because of him moving his vote in . I was finding it hard to see why he would do that as scum when he could have just kept pushing me.

b) I thought your issue with me there was that I was keeping my vote on Rui despite being suspicious of Inferno. If your actual main issue was that my reasoning seemed better re:Inferno, then... well like, that's just your opinion, man?
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In post 1065, Egix96 wrote:(Emphasis added by me)
I legit can't tell whether you're saying he must be scum (implied by your use of the word indeed), he might be scum (last italicised part), or he's town who's scumsiding ("the 4th slot").
The word indeed was woking with think, like I was deducing he was scum, not implying it as an absolute. I worded my sentence very baly htis time it seems.
What is a town who's scumsiding? I don't get this :(
Town who's scumsiding = a town member who's (not on purpose ofc) playing into the scum's hands. Considering that Mini Normals usually have 3 mafia I thought that "the 4th slot" could mean "honorary 4th mafia member".
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:45 am

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Our dog went to the emergency room, he’s really really sick. Don’t know if he’ll make it. Assume I’m on V/LA until further notice.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 3:50 am

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@exilon i see ur post but it's the kind of post i need a pc to answer, so later today, sorry.

Inferno, i hope ur dog is ok :(
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 4:29 am

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In post 1131, Inferno390 wrote:Our dog went to the emergency room, he’s really really sick. Don’t know if he’ll make it. Assume I’m on V/LA until further notice.
Wish your dog well.
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 4:33 am

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In post 1131, Inferno390 wrote:Our dog went to the emergency room, he’s really really sick. Don’t know if he’ll make it. Assume I’m on V/LA until further notice.
Prayers up :(
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 4:38 am

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That's sad to hear :(
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 4:59 am

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In post 1130, Egix96 wrote:Town who's scumsiding = a town member who's (not on purpose ofc) playing into the scum's hands. Considering that Mini Normals usually have 3 mafia I thought that "the 4th slot" could mean "honorary 4th mafia member".
Thanks!
I hardly imagine Garmr this way though... :?:
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 8:54 am

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Rui lynch- Egix96 , u r a person 2 , High Risk Gamble , Exilon , Ausuka , Sashaddin - plus one dead CDB

not on lynch

bob3141 , skitter30 , Garmr , , Inferno390 ( Lil Uzi -confirmed townie )

As everyone knows CDB was on sash lynch. So why was he killed?

Naturaly mafia would want to avoid being isolated so wouldnt they want to kill someone off the lynch.

Now do we have 2 or 3 mafia. With day one confirmed townie we might have a strong town and thus the high number.

With teh max mafia were woudl we find them. Are they all on rui wagon or are some hiding off it.

Of those hiding I think only inferno and skitter could be mafia.

post will go on
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:04 am

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now that leaves Egix96 , u r a person 2 , High Risk Gamble , Exilon , Ausuka , Sashaddin

Now im we assume atleast 2 are on it. ( were assuming one could be off for saftey )

But who?

The alternative lynch was sach

u r a person 2 , Ausuka , Lil Uzi Vert , bob3141 , Exilon , Garmr with it lynch - 1

minus the confirmed townie, me and teh one person im sure isnt mafia is below

u r a person 2 , Ausuka , , Exilon ,

Now is sash town or scum

Those are both wagons ( u r a person 2 , Ausuka , , Exilon ,)

If sash was scum was one bussing or if he is town was atleast oen hoping from one wagon to another
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:09 am

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thanks for the analysis bob. so who do you think is scum?
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:12 am

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thats not analysis. Thats just setting up base points by clear setting down a few stats. Analysis starts latter.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:24 am

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So u r a person 2 , Ausuka , , Exilon , --- On both wagons (group x)

Egix96 , High Risk Gamble, Sashaddin ---- just on Rui (group y)

Skitter, inferno - on neither ( group z)

The first conditionwe have is if sash is town or not - as his was the other wagon
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:27 am

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For this bit i will ignor sash posts. as i will work of two conditions

condition a - sash is town
condition b - sash is scum
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:35 am

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Now as i go into this analysis the person thats screaming out to me is Ausuka. ( disclaimer, this not full analysis- think ausuka as food stuck in your teeth. There is just something bugging me about him )

Now if sash is scum or not. he fits both conditions.

He didnt leave sach till no lynch was near and voted rui

Now sach vote first stalled at 4 votes. Now if it as ausuka himself points out it could be stalled as scom scum are alreadon it

If that was the case then the only possible person at that point was Ausuka.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:39 am

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Ausuka post even looked like pre excuse for him jumping off. Yet not preventing him jumping it on a later date.

There even looks like posts were he is trying to fabricate fall guys for that lynch if sash turns out town. And if sash is his scum buddy it could give him an excuse to jump off. Ironicly him being that scum he is talking out
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 9:56 am

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will need to check the early sash vote again as it might have been 5 at that point not 4. With urp2 being on it too
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2019 11:02 am

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So, if I'm reading you correctly, the result of your analysis is that you think Ausuka is scum?

I'm not trying to be dismissive, it's just a little tough for me to locate your conclusions
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