Starcraft Mafia: Legacy of the Void [Game Over]

[mastina]

Votecount 5.4

Iconeum(2)

~ Volxen MJL Combo Pack(8), Almost50(12)

Hydra TBD(2)

~ Liger_Zero(60), Iconeum(64)

Volxen MJL Combo Pack(1)

~ Shiro(2)

Shiro(1)

~ RCEnigma(14)

Cerberus v666(1)

~ Cerberus v666(1)


Not Voting (2): Moongrass(50), Hydra TBD(16)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 5 deadline is in (expired on 2019-05-17 01:14:21)

MOD REMINDERS

Liger and Hydra were both prodded

FLAVOR

[Hydra TBD]

We're town, volxen is town, shiro is town

Ico scummy, but I'm more confident in liger scum

If we're not lynching liger today the lynch should probably be us so that people can take our reads seriously, if ico flips town today we probably just get lynched tomorrow and scum win

- TBD

[Moongrass]

Ok

VOTE: Liger

[Almost50]

Ico scummy, but I'm more confident in liger scum

If we're not lynching liger today the lynch should probably be us so that people can take our reads seriously,

if ico flips tow

n today we probably just get lynched tomorrow and scum win

BIG if. If you are Town then Icon is

the

one and only acceptable lynch today. Also,

not lynching Liger

. Pops already died defending Liger, and you're basically making the counter argument to nullify Pops' sacrifice.

Also, why didn't Cerb hammer you?? I think BOTH you and Icon are scum, and I'm not lynching Liger.

[Almost50]

Actually...

VOTE: Moongrass

Cerb never lies about game mechanics. He (and Wisdom) both said it's more customary that if there are 2 identical roles (one ODD and one EVEN night) that one of them is SCUM. We already lynched the Town version, so Moongrass is the Scum version and BOTH Cerb & Wisdom knew it. That also explains why Moongrass is still alive.

NOT LYNCHING LIGER

. If you are Town

VOTE MOONGRASS TODAY

. (And now I'm 100% the NK of the night, but it means RCE lives to N6 and can hand someone a gun, so I'm happy going down tonight).

[Liger_Zero]

I am here.

[Almost50]

This might be a bit of a stretch but I think this is likely a towntell assuming the scum team would have had some interaction with both mods.

Also this looks like a minor slip. Who says the scum team usually interacts with "both" mods? It is almost always the case that I communicate with the main Mod all the time as either alignment. It is rarely the case that scum communicate with the back up mod, but OK.. the problem is..

schadd_, mastina, and Ankamius are backup/co moderators

So, it looks like Ank & Krazy are the ones posting in the Scum PT (Schadd usually doesn't and mastina has something against Cerb).

Yeah, it's weak sauce if you try to look at it as evidence, but if you are convinced that Moongrass is indeed scum then you can see things from a different perspective. My case is

this happened

:

VOTE: chennis

now that i think about it rolestopper type roles are almost always scum

its pretty common to have a town odd night and scum even night of something though (or vice versa)

why do you think that makes him town

I don't mind soft claiming to save Chen. I am the even night variant of his role hence I believe them to be town.

its pretty common to have a town odd night and scum even night of something though (or vice versa)

why do you think that makes him town

Yeah. I was just about to say that should actually make you think him more, not less, likely to be scum? ><

Yet Cerb never really pushed Moongrass after Chenn flipped Town. In fact, Cerb said:

I actually think we should still lynch me today, as Alchemist and Almost was saying that having me continue to be around the topic of me faking cop to save a buddy will continue to resurface unless we just quash that now so it won't bog down the game later.

I want to talk to Iconeum some more before we do that though.

This is a sentiment that I agree with(that the noise surrounding this singular event could easily grown to dominate the entire game, and thus it needs to be resolved in some fashion sooner rather than later).

In unrelated news, moongrass is also like 90% town, because in my opinion their claim is certainly true, the only question is the alignment of their claimed role...and a scum moongrass along with a flipped town counterpart would have meant scum could have freely shot alchemist21 last night with little concern about protection existing on them. Since they did not shoot there, but instead at someone who was unlikely to be protected due to their miller claim, indicates to me that there was concern about moongrass protecting their preferred target.

With that said, a small amount of doubt exists because scum!moongrass could have easily gotten away with commuting alchemist21 and thereby preventing any possible investigations under the guise of protecting them, but I don't believe moongrass' position in the game has been threatened enough/they have been under sufficient suspicion that scum!moongrass would wish to draw that scrutiny in their direction.

Which is:
(A) Why WE'RE NOT LYNCHING LIGER
(B) A preemptive defense of Moongrass.

My guess is Moon didn't even block Alch. Scum where hoping he may get a guilty on Cerb, perhaps?

Also..

Ico's EOD is scummy. To put it mildly..

It's that panic post scum feel obliged to contribute about how disintered they were in the town wagon after someone hammers.

I should probably be lynching in wisdom/cerb for blatantly lying about the odd/even thing but Ico has pretty much scum claimed so yolo.

Yet, Moon hasn't even voted either of Wisdom/Cerb after that post (he did bote both of them on DAY ONE), and is now looking for a lynch outside of Cerb/Icon too (I know Cerb is unlynchable. I am talking about how Moon is hunting for a lynch outside of his declared "more scummy than the two flipped scums").

The only time he actually voted Icon

after the above quote

was this:

UNVOTE: I think BP is a scummy claim regardless. But it can be tested tomorrow so there are better options probably. Not named Liger preferrably.

Then we can let an investigative handle it tonight and have vig shoot elsewhere.

Looks like you already answered this question... Why are you so keen on using town powers of which you don't even know for sure they exist to clear a slot you find scummy?

Both a vig and an investigative are better used elsewhere, and I find the lack of pushing on what you describe as a scummy claim interesting.

Hmm. VOTE: Iconeum

I just remembered that I used my role on Iconeum so he's not the eyes but his ISO makes sense as scum.

Notice how he plants the seeds for everyone to be skeptical of following him? He is voting Icon AND chainsawing him in the very same post.

So, I conclude that the scum duo remaining (ourside of Cerb) are Moonlogic & Iconeum, but IF -by some Godly miracle- there's only one scum left then it's definitely Moon.

LYNCH MOONGRASS TODAY. If the game doesn't end, LYNCH ICONEUM NEXT.

[Almost50]

Sorry for the big wall.

[Moongrass]

Ugh A50 I'm not scum you're being a derp head. You ruined my play.

VOTE: Hydra

[Iconeum]

Ico scummy, but I'm more confident in liger scum

If we're not lynching liger today the lynch should probably be us so that people can take our reads seriously,

if ico flips tow

n today we probably just get lynched tomorrow and scum win

BIG if. If you are Town then Icon is

the

one and only acceptable lynch today. Also,

not lynching Liger

. Pops already died defending Liger, and you're basically making the counter argument to nullify Pops' sacrifice.

Also, why didn't Cerb hammer you?? I think BOTH you and Icon are scum, and I'm not lynching Liger.

How the fuck can you think Liger is town and I'm scum? Scum was obviously setting up liger previous day as the 'easy' lynch which it would have been UNLESS FOR ME

[Iconeum]

Like, I literally put my head on the chopping block to stand up for Liger. There's no serious scenario where I'm scum and liger is town.

[Iconeum]

I actually think we should still lynch me today, as Alchemist and Almost was saying that having me continue to be around the topic of me faking cop to save a buddy will continue to resurface unless we just quash that now so it won't bog down the game later.

I want to talk to Iconeum some more before we do that though.

This is a sentiment that I agree with(that the noise surrounding this singular event could easily grown to dominate the entire game, and thus it needs to be resolved in some fashion sooner rather than later).

In unrelated news,

moongrass is also like 90% town, because in my opinion their claim is certainly true, the only question is the alignment of their claimed role

...and a scum moongrass along with a flipped town counterpart would have meant scum could have freely shot alchemist21 last night with little concern about protection existing on them. Since they did not shoot there, but instead at someone who was unlikely to be protected due to their miller claim, indicates to me that there was concern about moongrass protecting their preferred target.

With that said, a small amount of doubt exists because scum!moongrass could have easily gotten away with commuting alchemist21 and thereby preventing any possible investigations under the guise of protecting them, but I don't believe moongrass' position in the game has been threatened enough/they have been under sufficient suspicion that scum!moongrass would wish to draw that scrutiny in their direction.

A50, this is what you quoted. Read it again. I bolded the important part.

That is NOT SvS. That's scum shading a claimed PR.

[Iconeum]

A50, RCE

You guys need to hop onto the Hydra wagon.

Town
Ico
Liger
Moon
A50
RCE
Shiro

Scum
Volxen
Hydra
Cerb

[Shiro]

Why do I do to pretend to care you guys, sell me a wagon.

[Iconeum]

Hydra is also inj my PoE tbh sooooo I could lynch there as well.

[Iconeum]

Sold?

[Shiro]

Yea sure

Vote:Hydra

[Iconeum]

That's L-1

Wh

[Iconeum]

*What will Cerb do?

[RCEnigma]

There was something that I thought was a townslip from moongrass in the beginning of the day but it can wait till tomorrow I guess. I kinda liked ico today but I think he's bullshitting this page specifically. Liger didn't survive the day through the grace of Ico risking his life to save him but whatever. I just have to not screw up my last gun.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Hydra

[Iconeum]

That's hammer I think.

RCE why are you jumping on a wagon that's instigated by someone bullshitting according to you?

[Iconeum]

Liger/Ico/Moon/A50/RCE looks like a full-town wagon though.

[Moongrass]

A50 isn't on the wagon, Shiro is.

[Iconeum]

Doesn't matter, both are town.

If this goes through like I hope it does, we kill Volxen next day