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Yep. You?In post 7, Irrelephant11 wrote:Persivul you town?- Persivul
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I endorse this product or service.In post 11, Irrelephant11 wrote:Ye
Gonna lovktown you for now because I really do struggle to read you and randomness is on my side
Nobody touch Persivul he’s our D1 IC
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How do you feel about policy lynches on hydras with >4 heads?In post 12, Smile wrote: Yoooooo.
Something that maybe needs to be said: We are a 5-people hydra, and we don't plan on signing our actual usernames, and use magical girl code names instead, hopefully that won't be a problem. We're cool though, I promise. Also It's not exactly hard to find who the five of us are.
Anyway, I believe the only person I played with before is Chara, so, hello hello to people, this is Cure March. I'll leave the RVS to the other girls.
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Interesting!In post 2, funkybike1 wrote:There are two Jailkeepers. I suggest that the Town try and keep them alive.
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In post 6, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: skitter
@mod I’m on v/la this week
I should maybe do the v/la tags huh
The first post pinged me as self-conscious, but first post so whatever.In post 20, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Oops this should have been a PM huhIn post 6, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: skitter
@mod I’m on v/la this week
I should maybe do the v/la tags huh
Well whatever functionally I’ll probably still make time to show up all week tbh
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You announced that because...?In post 34, tris wrote:I am town.- Persivul
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That's not a bad answer.In post 26, Irrelephant11 wrote:It was a sort-of apology to funkybike because you pointed out something from a mod post so I read through all the words of the mod posts and i noticed the rule about PMing the mod if you’re v/la which is already done wrong- Persivul
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I didn't see any rolefishing. That was setup spec, which in a semi-open is fair game according to the book.In post 43, Shiidaji wrote:mmmmmmmmy only idea of Percy comes from replacing in for him in Zulfy's game. I also expected him to immediately shush and table the role-fishing Town JK discussion because of his "by the book" playstyle that Vedith described.
My top of the head thoughts on it: JKs are town. At some point they can claim and thereby conftown themselves, as a fake claim would presumably be CC'd. PLUS, they can protect each other that night. If they can avoid being NK'd or run up and forced to claim, they should probably claim a day before potential lylo.
I considered voting there, but I have experience with him and gave him opportunity to explain, and as noted in my follow up, I was satisfied with the explanation. Although I didn't go back and read the rules to verify, which I probably should.Percy in post 23 should have voted elephant since he is the type to hop on players like skitter for pressure in the first place anyway I also got a bad feeling from elephant's first few posts in the same way that I did on Flavor Leaf in that game.- Persivul
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Why do you read a RVS wagon as a serious push? Lots of people do that just to see what happens. It rarely goes to lynch.In post 45, insomnia wrote:What posts of elephant’s ping you? He seems to be interested in pushing skitter at the moment,- Persivul
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I get that if someone does nothing but setup spec it's scummy, but aside from that - what do you have against it?In post 46, Shiidaji wrote:but still encourages early role discussion felt counterintuitive to me.
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Everyone started that way...In post 57, ClearlyClarity wrote:And all of you seem to know each other. I feel left out- Persivul
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Why?In post 66, RCEnigma wrote:Vedith meta is catching on and I like it.- Persivul
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Uh, aren't you supposed to be in a hydra?In post 76, Baezu wrote:Persi!!!! Long time no see- Persivul
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You didn't help, as Baezu isn't actually in the player list.In post 88, Smile wrote:If we're going to talk about awkward entrances, this is the most awkward of them all! I love awkward people, they're funny! But this is no fun, this is scum!
VOTE: Baezu
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Because she used to say the product or service line I used. That's where I got it.In post 99, Fuscezu wrote:why did you mention her?- Persivul
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Why the change?In post 107, tris wrote:
This is accurate.In post 105, Persivul wrote:So far tris is playing nothing like she did in Room Odds, in which she was town.- Persivul
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That's either an uncannily keen observation...or you read ahead and are only pretending to be doing a post by post catch-up.In post 125, skitter30 wrote:i'm pretty sure the rules say that v/la should be pm'd and not posted in thread; it kinda makes sense for this to follow your post pointing out that this game has plurality lynching - he probably went back to read the rule post and then saw the thing about v/la so mentioned it- Persivul
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I don't get this. I don't see how mod accidentally typed the sentence, or why you would even speculate about that.In post 135, skitter30 wrote:i kinda feel like the op meant for the jk's to be alignment neutral, but the below kinda slipped/insinuated by mistake taht they're town-aligned (or, at the very least, that the jk's being alive is helpful to town which would imply that they're probably not scum). i'm not sure if we were supposed ot have that info tho- Persivul
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Why, did she play a good scum game? What number was it?In post 175, Miss Kobayashi Maru wrote:I'm surprised at you handing her a townread so easily after that last newbie game- Persivul
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This feels like an excuse not to post. There's been some setup spec, but not that much. And personally when I was a newbie I was pretty interested in role mechanics. Why aren't you?In post 179, ClearlyClarity wrote:Feels like a lot of the experienced ones are debating mafia theory rather than anything about this game too so I'm kinda just hoping for a brainwave rn.- Persivul
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Oh come on. You mentioned it publicly for a reason.In post 180, funkybike1 wrote:Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
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In post 180, funkybike1 wrote:Debating theory/outguessing the mod always tends to be a thing in these games. It very rarely works.
The text of the OP regarding the Jailkeepers was intentional; this isnota confirmation that both are Town.
All the votes? There's one. Someone's not reading the thread, but trying to act all townie by challenging a (nonexistent) wagon.In post 189, insomnia wrote:Can someone make a scum case on ceejay? I thought his unvote looked townie, I don't get all the votes on him
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Fair enough. I used to talk out the mechanics even though I was frequently wrong, but that's me I suppose.In post 223, Miss Kobayashi Maru wrote:as an identically new player I'm interested in the setup stuff but don't really feel like I can participate in it or constructively comment on it, so I can understand it contributing to newbie stage fright- Persivul
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Not exactly sure what you're asking, but FWIW: tomorrow someone will likely push for massclaim, but most will say no and it won't happen until D3 or D4. I have no clue why, but a lot of people think they can solve a closed game from the claims. IMO it usually just makes it easier for the scum to pick their NKs. BUT, this is semi-open, and although mod is now denying it, I think the JK info can be used to our advantage.In post 226, ClearlyClarity wrote:I am actually quite interested in the mechanics of this game, though. What's the usual meta for Mini Theme games that have a closed setup?- Persivul
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Hey, another useless post from the hydra. Imagine that!In post 229, Smile wrote:Hellooo I'm here and this is completely unrelated but I just became a corporate slave wooooohoooo
catching up
btw Cure Happy's busy lately but she'll show up.
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JKs can be scum too, but since mod said we should keep them alive, that pretty much means that they're town, unless mod royally screwed up.In post 231, ClearlyClarity wrote:
K so I have a couple questions regarding this:In post 1, funkybike1 wrote:Game-Specific Information and Role Interactions
37. This is a closed setup... for the most part. Some elements of the setup are public and listed below.
38. There are two Jailkeepers in this setup. The first time they both target each other, they are both protected. The second and subsequent times, they are both roleblocked and not protected.
39. The Mafia is the only groupscum faction in this game. There may or may not be additional scum or third-party factions.
40. There are no bastard elements in this game; I will never deliberately lie to you outside the bounds of normal gameplay. All investigative roles are Sane unless they are explicitly told they have a chance to be non-Sane.
41. There are no Cults, Survivors, Jesters, or Unjesters. The role you receive is the role and alignment you will have for the entire game unless your role PM specifically tells you otherwise.
42. This game begins on Night 0. No killing actions may be taken on Night 0, but all other Night actions may take place.
- I saw the speculation on the alignment of the double JK earlier but I've never suspected that they could be any alignment other than town. If mod wanted roleblocking scum, wouldn't they just make them Mafia RB? Unless mod wanted to purposely misread town by making one scum JK?
- If mafia is the only groupscum faction and there's additional scum, does that mean that scum is in a third-party? Are they the only scum of that hypothetical third-party?
- Third-party factions indicate roles like SK or Survivor iirc? I haven't ever played in any games with those roles, what's the meta?
There's only one scum faction (i.e. team), but there could be a 3P, which would probably be a SK.- Persivul
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I feel left out.In post 281, Irrelephant11 wrote:skitter you should come vote shiidaji- Persivul
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In post 286, insomnia wrote:So Persivul are you going to hop off already or what?
Why are you so different here from last time I played with town!you and it was a total shitshow?In post 287, insomnia wrote:I thought you were going on with a push.- Persivul
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Yeah...but their individual thoughts add up to a whole bunch of not much.In post 336, ClearlyClarity wrote:To elaborate more on Smile townlean which is pretty much the sole read I’m slightly sure about: I feel like their scattered thoughts and reads are more town-indicative because as scum they’d be more likely to collaborate on their posts so that they’re not likely to contradict each other. That they’re just throwing out their individual thoughts without much consideration vibes town to me- Persivul
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It was still early in the game - far too early for a position that was deep and nuanced.In post 347, insomnia wrote:he placed a vote for something that is shallow af- Persivul
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It's been so long since a VC I don't know what the votes are like.In post 355, Irrelephant11 wrote:Are you trying to convince me? ...I'm the reason you're voting shiidaji, I thought?
I've gone dark sitewide to lose heat, so that doesn't mean much to me.I agree shii's posts are sorta scummy. Pretty sure shii's been absent sitewide though, so idk how AI that is- Persivul
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Because he's not in the game as Baezu. He's in the fuscezu hydra.
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In post 364, Fuscezu wrote:LHF wagons are really bad for vca
Maybe you should actually vote then, and start a good wagon.In post 365, Fuscezu wrote:Scums literally as likely to defend LHF with minimal content as attack it.- Persivul
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I don't think that's a good vote.In post 416, Fuscezu wrote:Im sorely tempted to vote irre the more of him i read.- Persivul
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That's better.In post 427, Fuscezu wrote:Irrelephant11 - Hate it, but guttown it.- Persivul
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Yep, I've been feeling the same way. I'm frequently somewhat rude/aggressive on D1 in order to generate content, but no one seems to understand that method on this site and I get scum read for it. I'm tired of spending the game defending, so I'm purposely backing off in this game. The downside is that nothing much is happening.In post 456, ClearlyClarity wrote:Yeah this is also how I'm feeling about the game rn. I normally don't lurk as much as I have this game as town but the environment of this lobby is completely different from that I've been used to from games I usually am in. Every post I've seen so far feels the same, like I'd read through 5 pages of the game and get absolutely nothing out of it. I'm probably just bad at the game or w/e but I'm entirely lost- Persivul
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Could have gotten something going? It was going nowhere. It was a waste to have it there. shiidaji otoh is a viable wagon and whatever happens with it, we'll get some info out of it.In post 505, Smile wrote:Percy why did you drop your push on insomnia, when we could have gotten something going
especially when the new vote is shiidaji which fundamentally does nothing
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Have you ever replaced into a scum slot with a wagon already on you? I have. It's not fun. A vote there was much, much more productive than no vote at all.In post 522, tris wrote:You say something like this, but you're vote is on a slot that's probably going to be replaced.- Persivul
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OK - stop making bad comments like the one above.In post 522, tris wrote:I'd much prefer you being aggressive than not engaging like you've been.- Persivul
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Sure - scummy side of null. Your ISO is a bunch of questions without pushes. You occasionally put a post in tags and say you don't like it but don't give specific reasons.In post 523, tris wrote:For some reason it seems like no one's really expressed a read on me. Does anyone want to give it a shot?- Persivul
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In post 525, tris wrote:
Do you want to say more on this?In post 432, RCEnigma wrote:I have reason to believe ceejay may be townIn post 527, tris wrote:
Actually, I don't really have much more to say.In post 521, tris wrote:
Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.In post 520, skitter30 wrote: @tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?And...you keep on doing it.
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How about the fact that he's one of the few who's interested in actually keeping the game moving?In post 543, RCEnigma wrote:Irrel in particular, I haven't gotten anything that tells me he's town.- Persivul
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Rather shiiIn post 547, Persivul wrote: Could have gotten something going? It was going nowhere. It was a waste to have it there. shiidaji otoh is a viable wagon and whatever happens with it, we'll get some info out of it.wasa viable wagon at the time of my vote. Looks like people are waiting for the replacement. In the meantime:
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Rule 40 specifically says it isn't, so you threw that out there because...?In post 678, Flavor Leaf wrote:Pretty sure this game is actually bastard, by the way. Just a heads up to not be surprised later.- Persivul
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This of course would be non-bastard.In post 1, funkybike1 wrote:41. There are no Cults, Survivors, Jesters, or Unjesters. The role you receive is the role and alignment you will have for the entire game
Reading this, OK, if it's in the game that's bastard or close enough to it.unless your role PM specifically tells you otherwise.- Persivul
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I'm pretty sure he's town, and I've played with him as scum before.In post 713, Flavor Leaf wrote:Disagree. Irrelephant’s actually my first scum read.- Persivul
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In my experience, you gambit as scum too.In post 747, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ll quote Nero Cain “In my experience, gambity Boon is town Boon.” - Persivul
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