Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[tris]

VOTE: skitter, hi. I've been seeing you a lot lately.

[tris]

I am town.

[tris]

I am town.

You announced that because...?

Because I'm mafia, and I want to fool you.

Hi Im town

Only scum would say this. VOTE: Fuscezu

Tris the towny one for being original when he posted it imo

*she

Hi I'm around

VOTE: Chara

Her posts are dull.

Are they scummy?

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But actually, I'm staying on VOTE: skitter so that elephant's dreams can come true. I think I agree, though, that Clarity's entrance was meh.

@Clarity Are you town? And, does anything from anyone stick out to you?

[tris]

Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.

[tris]

Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.

Hasn't skitter not posted yet? How is that scummy?

-Cure Beauty

It's the way she hasn't posted yet. Like Miss Kobayashi Maru's silence has been done in a very townie way, while skitter's has been done in a very scummy way.

[tris]

Beauty I think that signature attack video is for hammers

Tris please tell me you're meming

- March

yeah

[tris]

Why is Baezu here?

[tris]

So far tris is playing nothing like she did in Room Odds, in which she was town.

This is accurate.

[tris]

@Chara What do you think of me so far in this game?

[tris]

So far tris is playing nothing like she did in Room Odds, in which she was town.

This is accurate.

Why the change?

I've just been tending to fool around more in RVS.

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Clarity is just null for me now.

[tris]

Although, even in the Room Odds, I was looking to get a wagon going.

[tris]

VOTE: Shiidaji

[tris]

Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.

not sure scum!tris says this really?

Why not?

VOTE: ceejay

yay caught up

rather like this vote. I felt that I was premature for thinking ceejay was kind of wagonhunting, but this helps.

This feels like a town thought process.

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Goodnight all!

[tris]

Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.

Hasn't skitter not posted yet? How is that scummy?

-Cure Beauty

It's the way she hasn't posted yet. Like Miss Kobayashi Maru's silence has been done in a very townie way, while skitter's has been done in a very scummy way.

tris — thoughts on this after skitter posted and MKM still has not?

It was a joke.

[tris]

I think there was something else I meant to respond to, but I lost it.

Ugh I have fuscezu and tris as townleans for some reason.

Maybe chara too.

I like irrel and rcenigma for town

Why is rcenigma town?

Also, skitter's response to the wagon is very scummy.

not sure scum!tris says this really?

Why not?

VOTE: ceejay

yay caught up

rather like this vote. I felt that I was premature for thinking ceejay was kind of wagonhunting, but this helps.

This feels like a town thought process.

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Goodnight all!

idk
doesn't feel like something scum!you would have said in the 911 emergency game

I think it's comparable to how I was with my vote on ofrzh in RVS. I don't really see what you're talking about.

i was going to put some effort in here, but then skitter did town things and i decided i could rest instead.

also, as someone who holds onto its vote far too much, i don't find insomnia's not immediately voting to be a bad thing, really.

I don't see skitter as town yet. What's making you think that?

[tris]

Ugh I have fuscezu and tris as townleans for some reason.

Maybe chara too.

I like irrel and rcenigma for town

What's the difference between fuscezu and me, and irrel and rcenigma here?

[tris]

I told you I have 5 games going on my dude, that plus when skitter covers me like that I don't feel like doing much. I have to get out of that habit lmao

skitter was "covering" you in our last game as well, but you do seem a bit different from that game to me. How many games were you in at the start of that game? You seem more subdued here.

[tris]

I don't really have time right now. see you all in the morning.

[tris]

Why are people townreading Smile?

[tris]

VOTE: Fuscezu

On reread 190 comes off as reach-y. Could see their Ceejay related posts as them wanting to push him but to not be the one driving the wagon.

I'm leaning town on Fuscezu. 159 seems like a town thought process to me. As for 190, Insomnia was asking for a case on ceejay.

[tris]

So.. what is it?

[tris]

So, you were intentionally making a bad argument?

[tris]

So, that's what you mean by wanting to see who calls you out.

[tris]

What do you think of MKM's reaction then?

[tris]

I think it's comparable to how I was with my vote on ofrzh in RVS. I don't really see what you're talking about.

fair enough; i didn't remember your rvs vote there
i also don't know if scum!you argues with me for giving you a townread so

heh

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335 and some of skitter's recent interactions are leading me to townread skitter now. Seems natural.

[tris]

Spoiler: These parts

awkward charisma, interesting contributions. in four words.

bleh i'm starting to become a bit paranoid of you pocketing me via townreading me again
but i remember anuket so like town!you can/does townread me early, so like i ~know~ that i shouldn't be paranoid but i still kinda feel it so like idk how i feel about this overall or if this is even sometihng i should be paying attention to

i'm not sure i actually still like my ceejay vote
going to do this instead i think
VOTE: rcenigma

skitter you should come vote shiidaji

pedit: I reminded myself of why I scumread shiidaji and it's stronger than my (just now remembering that it's finals week) gamestate read

i have like exactly zero thoughts on shiidaji tbh

This is just narration.

? i didn't read that as narration

kinda gut-town on fuscezu

[tris]

VOTE: MKM I don't like 321

[tris]

i'm still mulling over whether or not it's scummy; i'm not sure that scum says this post in conjunction with the next one tho (the one pointing out that scum could defend lhf just as easily as vote them) - if you're scum trying to stave off the wagon you'd kinda want to incentivize people defending you, i'd imagine, not point out that it's a good place for scum to sit

I think this is correct. I'm still townreading Fuscezu.

[tris]

This isn't going to make much sense but I feel like we have similar thought process' in most cases. So sure you reading me scum was weird but it may be from a small sample size. I figured if you're town you would recognize me as town down the line.

Plus confronting you directly wouldn't give me the kind of read on you that I'm looking for. This doesn't seem like a pressure vote but I also don't consider myself as lhf so I still don't know what the play here is.

it's kinda pressure i suppose; or at least a way to start a dialogue so that i can try to sort out if i'm right or wrong here
i was kinda expecting some sort of response to me saying taht i was scumreading you, even if it was just 'why' or something

i guess one of the things that feel a little off is that you feel kinda passive? more than i'd expect at least?

Fair. I'm kind of out of sync with this game in particular. Couldn't tell you why and I hope it switches around day 2. At least I'll make an effort to improve my input.

I don't necessarily have a read on you either way and a vote on me based on gut doesn't sway me either way, but I'd probably feel that way as either alignment.

The best way to get content out of me would probably be to force it with a legitimate wagon, preferrably before EOD so I don't get flashlynched without giving my thoughts.

I'm following along with the game so I know what's going on but don't have any strong feelings, I have reason to believe ceejay may be town, I still think CC is town and that's about it.

If the hill I die on is my Shiidaji read directly following rvs then I find it incredibly weak and a probable point for scum to sow doubt. No one's really asked but no I don't really have Shiidaji as town anymore following his absence. Scumreading him on an activity rep out feels dumb though.

Oh insomnia is probably town as well, he would be my Fringe read however.

I feel like scum would pause before going like "you should force content out of me with a legit wagon" like RCE does here

- March

I think that statement is something that mafia might make to sound townie.

[tris]

ceejayvinoya

[line]Chara
ClearlyClarity
Fuscezu[/line]

insomnia

[line]Irrelephant11[/line]
Miss Kobayashi Maru
Persivul
RCEnigma
Shiidaji

skitter30

[line]Smile[/line]

tris

never touching strikethrough names d1
should probably lynch within bolded
underlined is shit thrown at the wall scum for post game ego

- March

Why insomnia?

[tris]

Clarity has moved into a townread for me.

[tris]

432 is a post that felt rather weak to me.

[tris]

@tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?

Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.

[tris]

LHF wagons are really bad for vca

Scums literally as likely to defend LHF with minimal content as attack it.

Maybe you should actually vote then, and start a good wagon.

You say something like this, but you're vote is on a slot that's probably going to be replaced.

Yeah this is also how I'm feeling about the game rn. I normally don't lurk as much as I have this game as town but the environment of this lobby is completely different from that I've been used to from games I usually am in. Every post I've seen so far feels the same, like I'd read through 5 pages of the game and get absolutely nothing out of it. I'm probably just bad at the game or w/e but I'm entirely lost

Yep, I've been feeling the same way. I'm frequently somewhat rude/aggressive on D1 in order to generate content, but no one seems to understand that method on this site and I get scum read for it. I'm tired of spending the game defending, so I'm purposely backing off in this game. The downside is that nothing much is happening.

I'd much prefer you being aggressive than not engaging like you've been.

[tris]

For some reason it seems like no one's really expressed a read on me. Does anyone want to give it a shot?

[tris]

I have reason to believe ceejay may be town

Do you want to say more on this?

[tris]

@tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?

Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.

Actually, I don't really have much more to say.

[tris]

town

Why?

[tris]

I don't see why I would be townread right now.

[tris]

I'm not sure. Possibly you, but I think you're town. Some others seem equally informative.

[tris]

what do I reveal?

You've had a lot of people who have either voted for you or defended you. It would depend on the flip. I don't really know what my conclusions would be though either way.

who else?

Actually probably Shiidaji more than any of the others. But, that would change if someone else gets lynched because that requires a wagon on them. Like I think this RCE wagon could generate information for if he flips scum. There just isn't much there yet.

I don't really think about wagons in terms of what's going to generate more information.

[tris]

I feel like teeth have to be pulled. they should not

What are you talking about?

[tris]

- gives scum a general idea of who is bussable/mislynchable today/savable today.

How does scum giving their own reads do this?

[tris]

For some reason it seems like no one's really expressed a read on me. Does anyone want to give it a shot?

Sure - scummy side of null. Your ISO is a bunch of questions without pushes. You occasionally put a post in tags and say you don't like it but don't give specific reasons.

I've gotten this complaint before.

[tris]

I don't see why I would be townread right now.

I don’t see why we’re not policying you for playing like this on purpose

Fuscezu had just asked me if I felt the townread was undeserved.

[tris]

- gives scum a general idea of who is bussable/mislynchable today/savable today.

How does scum giving their own reads do this?

Through the slots that interact with the reads. Players are going to give their own opinion on what they think is wrong, why X slot isn't actually scummy etc. Etc.

Then they can decide where they can pivot or push. Insomnia wasn't in the game at the time Lycan did this in schadds scumstomp normal but he replaced in towards the end. It's not dissimilar to Lycan's puppetstring approach. I probably wouldn't link the game since it's a cringeread but the mafia pt would give a general idea of what I'm talking about.

The Gist.

That's a large Mafia PT. Any specific posts you want to point to?

I don't see why I would be townread right now.

I don’t see why we’re not policying you for playing like this on purpose

Fuscezu had just asked me if I felt the townread was undeserved.

Sooo...What’s your point?

Maybe I don't understand what your point is.

[tris]

I'm sorta wavering on my RCE scumread rn actually because I'm not sure scum go for the "whoever's towniest must be scum" paranoia case when, meanwhile, multiple slots seem to have lurked out of the game (I think town might do this if they're actually experiencing an overwhelming amount of paranoia)
But otoh it's not like his ISO is balanced out by incredibly towny scumhunting and I don't know what else to do with my vote, at least until the lurkers come back/are replaced

Have you changed on Fuscezu? Why are you voting RCE over them.

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I'm thinking Irrelephant is town, so I think this entire wagon is town.

[tris]

@Chara what's your read on irrelephant?

[tris]

Why is your vote still on Shiidaji? Is it similar to what Percy said?

[tris]

I want to vote tris but I planned to talk out my reads with Happy in the PT since I would feel better voting there if we had some consensus that skitter was town. Happy going MIA kinda messed me up tbh. I kinda like RCE and skitter both for town personally, and

I didn't like tris's pushes on those slots

, but don't want to override March's vote and push tris when I feel like March has been paying a lot more attention to the game. I have almost no read on CJ but wouldn't mind seeing the slot go so I don't really strongly disagree with March's vote but I'm not super into it either.

-Beauty

I haven't been pushing for skitter. I think skitter is town.

[tris]

If you mean the wagon at the start of the game, that was just RVS.

[tris]

Do you scumread that joke?

[tris]

No, I just didn't understand why I would be scumread for it.

[tris]

It's more the absence of towniness while not quite being a lurker in combination with having multiple votes on people I townread throughout the game, not the joke in and of itself.

I understand why you might scumread me for other things; I was just taking issue with the idea that my "push" on skitter was scummy.

But I do think playing off an RVS vote as a joke is slightly more likely to come from scum than town, yeah.

-Beauty

If I was town would you expect me to pretend it wasn't a joke?

[tris]

Fixed.

It's more the absence of towniness while not quite being a lurker in combination with having multiple votes on people I townread throughout the game, not the joke in and of itself.

I understand why you might scumread me for other things; I was just taking issue with the idea that my "push" on skitter was scummy.

But I do think playing off an RVS vote as a joke is slightly more likely to come from scum than town, yeah.

-Beauty

If I was town would you expect me to pretend it wasn't a joke?

[tris]

If you were town I would expect you to play RVS in a way that generates more information and less wifom. Like that you seem to be kinda trying to totally write off your RVS vote is precisely why I don't like the way you played RVS. I know some people think RVS is useless or whatever but personally I think it's one of the most informative parts of the game.

-Beauty

Oh, I thought you were saying that me calling it a joke now was scummy. Even so, I DID continue with the joke in 85; it wasn't until March asked me if it was a joke that I said so in 87.

I would actually also like to know what you don't like about my vote for RCE.

[tris]

432 is a post that felt rather weak to me.

@tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?

Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.

@tris can i interest you in joining the rce wagon?

Yeah, VOTE: RCEnigma I'll have a bit more to say in a moment.

Actually, I don't really have much more to say.

I don't agree that 432 is weak, you say "I'll say more in a bit" but then your next post is all in response to pers and then you just accept you don't have more to say. There's a certain scum player that I have seen do a similar sort of thing when joining a wagon, I don't think you're an alt of them but it did strike me as the type of thing scum says when they join a wagon, realize they don't be able to write a townie-sounding case on the wagon they joined, and then decide that they won't get a lot of backlash for basically performing the art of saying nothing.

Like again, town I think would want to generate more interesting discussion surrounding the vote, but you seem more interested in just kind of giving the impression that you're thinking of the game rather than actually thinking about the game or actively solving

I know I can't talk on that front having given this game almost no thought in the last week while I was out of town but that's where I'm at skimming things now

-beauty

It makes sense that someone would scumread that. I expected someone would.

What was going through my head at the time was: I was planning to place a vote on RCE after said those things to Percy, but then I saw skitter asking me to join the wagon, so I did right then while saying I would say more. But, I found when I came back to that, I didn't have much to add.

[tris]

Hope this slot is town.

[tris]

irre is kinda scummy.
flavorslot is enh - not happy he placed into a slot that needs content
idk how i feel about rc
tris is townish

What's scummy about Irre?

wtf it’s page 3 already

'ohh noooes, its page 3!' is not really worth much more than an rvs vote?

Isn't that what she's saying?

[tris]

@Clarity You haven't said much about most of the players in the game. Could you share some reads?

[tris]

irre is kinda scummy.
flavorslot is enh - not happy he placed into a slot that needs content
idk how i feel about rc
tris is townish

What's scummy about Irre?

I would still like an answer here.

[tris]

Ha! That would explain why you said this.

I actually figured you were a similar player to Vedith but that doesn't seem to be the case. I only have one game with you but you were caught before replacing in so I don't have a good reference point.

[tris]

Can someone explain their Clarity townreads? I'll listen.

462 and the following posts felt honost to me. I don't like how she hasn't been doing much since then though.

If CJ is town (not sure he is but I at least kinda feel like the way the PL is treating him is semi-spewing him town),

The PL?

-> in the scenario where one jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda outs themselves, by starting a discussion on the alignment of the jailkeepers.
-> In the scenario where neither jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda softconfirms two roles that will probably later claim, by pointing out the way the mod post implies they're both town

Don't these two lines of logic contradict each other? If, in the second scenario, it softconfirms the jailkeepers as town, then wouldn't scum benefit from having their jailkeeper be assumed to be town in the first scenario?

i'll admit there's a part of me that's worried i'm simply townreading active posters, but then that just makes me worry about skitter and i think that's really foolish on day 1. if you're town it's on you to show it, is my thinking.

Percy's push on tris is objectively a good push to make, but my experience with tris makes me not want to agree with it. i wish i knew how tris approached scum in a general sense. if anyone has input please let me know.

I like this post. The first line is something I'm worried about as well.

Well, me, Skitter and tris were in a game where the both of them were scum and I was town, so Skitter should have some insight on tris

Baezu was also on that scumteam, but she's not around.

659 from irre is good.

that's what i like to see from him

What have you scumread about irrelephant?

CC walk me through your read on irrel.

@Clarity You haven't said much about most of the players in the game. Could you share some reads?

Hi CJ! Ummm talk to me about Clearly Clarity. Shorter ISO: Newbtown or Scum using newbtone for towniness?

As an aside: ngl I'm extremely nervous that Flavor repped in an a very mysterious slot

Generally I don't like voting people by the way they post and I have no idea how to sort real newbtown from faked one so I'm not gonna try.

What I can note is that she comes across to me as sort of awkward. There are more posts from her about setup spec, her awkward entrance, and posts that doesn't advance the game than posts that actually help.

She's below the null line to me.

I'm just not feeling this game. I'm out of my league. I'm reactive rather than proactive here because I don't know where to begin and the best thing I can do is nod along. I think my flaky play here ought to be town-indicative due to how evident it is that I'm acting completely on my own

This is such a brazen thing to say. Does scum say this?

[tris]

I don't really know what I should be pushing right now.

[tris]

tris - her play reminds me * a lot* of the scumgame we finished last week.

In what ways?

[tris]

tris - her play reminds me * a lot* of the scumgame we finished last week.

In what ways?

the questioning-but-not-really-engaging thing that you're doing, like right here
most of your questions don't seem to lead anywhere

Wasn't I accused of that in Anuket as well?

[tris]

I think I sometimes have a hard time getting my thoughts clearly out there. I do have thoughts based on the answers I get, but they're often very mixed up, and uncertain.

[tris]

I'd like to hear more on that.

[tris]

*sigh*
Care to explain your read?

You and Chara seemingly reacted in a specific way that i see scum do around me.

Vorkuta/HitAlt got hard WIFOM’d recently because I claimed Day 3 IC and did this cologne gambit, and it drove them wild.

I see similarities in yours and Chara’s play. These are my first impression reads.

Chara hasn't reacted to your claim yet.

[tris]

For what it's worth, my reaction to the claim is similar to Irrelephant's. I can see what you are talking about with respect to Chara's reaction to your replacing in, but for the Irrelephant part, are you referring to the post claim reactions?

[tris]

Why is me being town claiming 3rd party off the table here?

I’m not. I’m just 3rd party, but yeah. I’ll win with town, and you can lynch me later in the game to prove it.

because i wouldn't believe you if you claimed town later. even if i thought of the possibility i wouldn't take any actions that put faith into it.
unless you really really towned it up, i suppose?

Why?

Off of one entrance claim? Noted.

i'm not really a gambler.

What are you saying here?

[tris]

I'm at the end of page 9. Currently the people who I've found no reasons to townread are {ceejayvinoya, Chara, insomnia, Irrelephant, Smile, tris}. Of those, I think that Irrelephant and tris are the most likely to actually be scum. I've found reasons, even if very minor, to townread everyone else. Some more than others, of course – my reason to townread skitter is fairly small, for example.

From what I've read these don't seem to align with popular consensus, so if anyone would like clarification somewhere feel free to ask. It's getting fairly late for me so I'm not sure how much more reading I'll get done right now.

What do you like about RCE, and what do you dislike about Irrelephant?

It feels weird to throw Skitter in my townreads, I'm not sure how deeply I believe that. Her pushing me makes me want to say town but I don't have any solid reasoning outside of that.

Well,

this

is actually probably the

biggest

reason why I think you might be town
Scum doesn't think they can mislynch skitter easily
Town is paranoid of skitter, though (been experiencing it on and off all game)
so unless you're partnered with her this comes across pretty towny to me

Good point. UNVOTE:

I think I want to vote for Smile, but I'll just consider the options first.

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@Irrelephant

If CJ is town (not sure he is but I at least kinda feel like the way the PL is treating him is semi-spewing him town),

The PL?

-> in the scenario where one jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda outs themselves, by starting a discussion on the alignment of the jailkeepers.
-> In the scenario where neither jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda softconfirms two roles that will probably later claim, by pointing out the way the mod post implies they're both town

Don't these two lines of logic contradict each other? If, in the second scenario, it softconfirms the jailkeepers as town, then wouldn't scum benefit from having their jailkeeper be assumed to be town in the first scenario?

[tris]

Alright, VOTE: Smile.

@March Is your scumread of insomnia just based on the part where he doesn't immediately vote for persivul?

I want to vote tris but I planned to talk out my reads with Happy in the PT since I would feel better voting there if we had some consensus that skitter was town.

Why would that be necessary? Why would you need consensus that skitter is town to vote for me?

Spoiler: Jailkeeper thing

@Irrelephant

If CJ is town (not sure he is but I at least kinda feel like the way the PL is treating him is semi-spewing him town),

The PL?

-> in the scenario where one jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda outs themselves, by starting a discussion on the alignment of the jailkeepers.
-> In the scenario where neither jailkeeper is scum, scum gains nothing, and kinda softconfirms two roles that will probably later claim, by pointing out the way the mod post implies they're both town

Don't these two lines of logic contradict each other? If, in the second scenario, it softconfirms the jailkeepers as town, then wouldn't scum benefit from having their jailkeeper be assumed to be town in the first scenario?

PL = Playerlist - I feel like too few people are treating him as scum for him to be scum. I don't know if that makes any sense actually, but it's my thought

Let me try to explain better.

Given

the mod

already

softconfirmed the jailkeepers as town
Scum who have a jailkeeper are better off not bringing up the question of whether or not the jailkeeper is town (because before Smile's post, I was just sort of living in the belief they were both town without thinking about it)
And scum who don't have a jailkeeper are better off not reminding the entire playerlist that the mod did so

I still think that's contradictory. Either making that post calls into question whether jailkeepers are town, or it calls attention to something that suggests they are.

[tris]

That's almost to the deadline...

[tris]

I remember at some point thinking that insomnia might be town, but I can't remember why. Even after looking through his ISO.

[tris]

@Persivul
What do you think of Smile?

[tris]

your insomnia push is quite awful tho; he's town i'm pretty sure

Why do you think he's town?

[tris]

Ok I feel a bit bad now about how I wrote that. I'm willing to have a conversation with someone about FL's claim if anyone wants to

What about it?

[tris]

If he's going to be cooperating with the town, he ought to be doing some scumhunting or something. That's my thoughts.

[tris]

Sounds like he's something unique to this game.

Why do you scumread skitter?

[tris]

Oh, right. I just read that. Who were you sheeping on that?

[tris]

I meant to meant to say more last night, but I didn't, but now I'm here.

i don't know; i have to go back and check
of the scumgame and anuket i remember the scumgame better (i guess cuz it was more recent) so that's what i'm comparing against. i don't remember how the the towngame compares to the scumgame but i'll take a look at her iso in anuket again when i have a chance

did you get a chance to look?

when i pointed out that her game here looks similar to Anuket i was expecting some sort of explanation as to why it also looking similar to her scumgame was AI and what the difference was.
Percy's reasons i think are fine and if i hadn't played with tris before i might also think that, but i haven't really seen any reasons that aren't null to me and considering your experience with her i expected something more.

i skimmed about half her iso in anuket again, yeah
she makes more declarative statements in anuket than in her scumgame imo (ie 'i think x is scum' or 'i think these two people are town', even without a vote, as opposed to asking questions). she's also a little more pushy there in following up on questions, which makes me feel like in anuket she actually cared about the answers

I think this is true. Sorry, I've been kind of unmotivated in general recently. Hopefully, if I'm not lynched today, I can be more engaged and demonstrate my towniness.

VOTE: Fuscezu

No. Also, I never scumread fuscezu.

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I should say where all my reads are at right now.

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Most confident townread

skitter30

Some more townreads

Irrelephant11
Fuscezu
insomnia (I'm going off of skitter's argument here)

I did townread ClearlyClarity before, but that wanes the more she doesn't engage.

Brown Eyes: needs more content.

ceejayvinoya: idk

Chara: Hasn't been scummy, but I haven't had much reason to townread it either. It did take me a while to read it in Anuket Topaz as well.

Persivul: I need to think about him a bit more.

RCEnigma: I'll need to come back to him as well.

Flavor Leaf: If he doesn't step it up tomorrow, I think I'll want to lynch him.

Smile: I'm getting the feeling they might be town. I haven't agreed with most things that have come out of this hydra,

but it could just be

You know what. nevermind on that townfeeling. Hold on a sec.

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@Beauty are you basing your claim that I scumread fuscezu on this?

Hi Im town

Only scum would say this. VOTE: Fuscezu

Because that was another joke. My last post before that had been almost the same thing as Fuscezu was saying there. I didn't even keep my vote on Fuscezu the entire post.

It feels weird to me that this is the second time you've taken one of my RVS fake scumreads seriously.

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If Fusc flipped scum, I think it would be worth revisiting tris.

This can't be a set up for a mislynch on me unless it's busing, which I doubt.

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Look at your joke and give me one reason not to see it as weak distancing?

It was not distancing. Like, who would look back at RVS and think that that vote would mean I'm not scum with Fuscezu?

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Maybe it's because a lot of what you said in RVS wasn't very funny and can be read as light reads rather than jokes.

If you take it out of context maybe, but the fact that the thing I was scumreading was something I literally said in my last post means it has to be a joke.

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I'm wondering if scum!Smile might have continued to push for me, and try to get skitter on board. I guess Fuscezu does have more votes.

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Sometimes I do feel like I want people to vote for me. I don't know why.

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VOTE: Clarity

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Do you think anyone going after you is scum?

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I'm a day 2 IC

Haha. I don't believe this. VOTE: Smile

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you're not a duck, penguin, or zebra, right? 'Cause those are the only three dramatic reveals I can think of that would break my read on you

Relly is now trying to backpedal by implying he thinks he thought I was a different person as though he doesn't know who I am. This is not something someone asks *after* making a meta argument. This is something someone asks when they realize their mislynch is an IC.

That post doesn't imply to me that he's backing away.

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Town. He has thoughts that seem organic and nuanced, and a couple of times have meshed with how I'm thinking.

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peditx2: I'm actually laughing

someone is getting desperate and now is going to start lurking so he doesn't spew anymore

Lol

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if that's real and you're town, Smile, i'm really really pissed.
if Smile is scum i'm okay with it.

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Why would you be banned for that?

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Are you going to leave the town now?

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Oh, hi Baezu.

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You skitter and chara are a team?

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You think skitter and chara are a team?

EBWOP

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Wow. I townread skitter, but I should go over her ISO to remind myself why.

VOTE: Succinct

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Sorry that I replaced out. Glad town won! I really should have suspected Insomnia more.