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Post Post #4038 (isolation #200) » Sun May 12, 2019 1:57 pm

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In post 3867, NanceFloor wrote:If this fails then the focus is immediately going to go to RC as a "deep wolf." Which I'm not sure is helpful to anyone. If we're going to give him control over an entire coalition it's not going to be as good as it can be if we're forcing him to exclude himself.

I would strongly prefer doing something similar to:

Moongrass
NanceFloor
themilkcartonkid
Skygazer
MariaR
Clemency
Ankamius
Chennisden

This is taking a leap of faith of mbaki!town. I think mbaki was town here and he obviously won't be in RC's coalition so I think it makes some sense to put him in here instead of RC.

It looks like I might be outnumbered on this opinion though.
In post 3893, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 3867, NanceFloor wrote:If this fails then the focus is immediately going to go to RC as a "deep wolf." Which I'm not sure is helpful to anyone. If we're going to give him control over an entire coalition it's not going to be as good as it can be if we're forcing him to exclude himself.

I would strongly prefer doing something similar to:

Moongrass
NanceFloor
themilkcartonkid
Skygazer
MariaR
Clemency
Ankamius
Chennisden

This is taking a leap of faith of mbaki!town. I think mbaki was town here and he obviously won't be in RC's coalition so I think it makes some sense to put him in here instead of RC.

It looks like I might be outnumbered on this opinion though.
I don’t agree with your list. How is Chenn townier than Chemist and I’m still iffy on Moon.
I did, but Dan is still in your hydra, my point stands
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Post Post #4044 (isolation #201) » Sun May 12, 2019 2:04 pm

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Because he wants to have more than 1 scum on coalition so as not to be "the scum that made coalition fail"
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Post Post #4064 (isolation #202) » Sun May 12, 2019 2:34 pm

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Yep, should have saved it. Dont worry, I wont have the clout to pull it off
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Post Post #4134 (isolation #203) » Sun May 12, 2019 11:08 pm

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In post 4109, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 4106, Titus wrote:
In post 4105, chennisden wrote:whats an abr
Albert B. Rampage, he called our teammates retarded and was an all around asshole.
Sorry @tmck, I didn’t mean to suggest you were being dumb only that your analysis was whack.
It's ok, I know I'm not dumb
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Post Post #4135 (isolation #204) » Sun May 12, 2019 11:18 pm

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In post 4133, RadiantCowbells wrote:no i'm not ccing and anyone who thinks that i am is very silly
I'm so glad I dont have to 1v1 you
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Post Post #4137 (isolation #205) » Mon May 13, 2019 1:35 am

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In post 4136, 0verki11 wrote:Fuck I wrote a VCA thingy and then realised all townie people from it were like obv town.
Anyway, RC, Ank, Nance, and kind of but not as much Mbaki are townie
Probably 2 scum on BEF wagon D1
1-3 scum on BEF wagon D2
So is TD your scumbuddy or is there a deepwolf?
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Post Post #4146 (isolation #206) » Mon May 13, 2019 6:32 am

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I will laugh so hard if this wins
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Post Post #4150 (isolation #207) » Mon May 13, 2019 8:30 am

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Its gross that moon, chenn, and td were on this
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Post Post #4170 (isolation #208) » Wed May 15, 2019 2:19 am

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In post 4165, Titus wrote:If we do a second coalition, it should be everyone left out plus the conftown.

This either wins, or confirms a 2-1 or a 1-2.
I actually like this. Also, can RC tell us his coalition now?
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Post Post #4176 (isolation #209) » Wed May 15, 2019 3:22 am

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I mean, you can read my role PM too. It's at the beginning.
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Post Post #4178 (isolation #210) » Wed May 15, 2019 3:48 am

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You good
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Post Post #4187 (isolation #211) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:06 am

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I do wonder if we use ok and td to force an elimination of two people. Take for example if we did scum!chem town!clem scum!overkill and scum!TD. They would be forced to kill 1 scum member and we would for sure know the other two. Alternatively we do scum!chem town!clem scum!overkill and town!td they would be forced to leave kill td, one of your biggest srs and we would know the other two are scum. Although this doesn't work if we dont pick at least two scum, I think it gives us a better shot then just picking the bottom four slots of our og coalition. Thoughts?
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Post Post #4189 (isolation #212) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:13 am

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What is it?
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Post Post #4192 (isolation #213) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:16 am

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In post 4191, RadiantCowbells wrote:It is my coalition
Who is?
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Post Post #4195 (isolation #214) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:19 am

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Yes, those, I would like their names please
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Post Post #4197 (isolation #215) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:25 am

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I didnt vote for that and you know it.
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Post Post #4199 (isolation #216) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:28 am

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As soon as I saw who jumped on it, I got the heck outta dodge. That fact that TD voted it means that everyone should have jumped off immediately
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Post Post #4200 (isolation #217) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:28 am

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Honestly the fact that moon voted it too
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Post Post #4201 (isolation #218) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:32 am

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I'm going to reach put here, titus, is there a world where rc is scum?
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Post Post #4202 (isolation #219) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:33 am

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And this is not because of coalition fail, I have a different reason
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Post Post #4204 (isolation #220) » Wed May 15, 2019 4:34 am

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Eh, nevermind, you can answer titus, but I think that's a conversation we should have later
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Post Post #4206 (isolation #221) » Wed May 15, 2019 5:01 am

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RadiantCowbells
Moongrass mbaki
OkaPoka

Time Devil (TemporalLich + Baezu)
themilkcartonkid Shoshin

Ankamius Vedith
Creature
Skygazer Taly
MariaR JohnnyEnglish Confirmation Bias (??? + ???)
Clemency
NanceFloor (Nancy Drew 39 + Dannflor)
chennisden
Chemist1422
0verki11
BrightEyedFish

Titus Shadowlesscloud
Fuscosco


OkaPoka/BrightEyedFish
(9): Time Devil, chennisden, Titus, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, NanceFloor, Clemency, Ankamius,
themilkcartonkid

Creature/Chemist1422 (2):
OkaPoka
, 0verki11
Ankamius/Clemency (1): JohnnyEnglish
chennisden/Titus (1):
BrightEyedFish

RadiantCowbells/0verki11 (1): mbaki
Not Voting (2): Chemist1422, Creature

Dance (9): RadiantCowbells,
themilkcartonkid
, chennisden,
OkaPoka
, 0verki11,
BrightEyedFish
, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Taly (P-0)
1of4 (1): Time Devil
Veto (1): Titus
Not Voting (5): mbaki, Creature, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, Chemist1422

Fuscosco (9): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor,
OkaPoka, BrightEyedFish
,
themilkcartonkid
, JohnnyEnglish,
Fuscosco
, Ankamius (LYNCH)
BrightEyedFish
(3): chennisden, 0verki11,
Fuscosco

mbaki (1): Titus
themilkcartonkid
(1): Chemist1422
0verki11 (1): Clemency
Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly
*I think the fuscosco on BEF is actually TD and is labelled wrong*

8-ball (9): Confirmation Bias, Vedith, NanceFloor, Taly,
BrightEyedFish, OkaPoka,
Creature, Chemist1422, mbaki
Not Voting (8): RadiantCowbells, Time Devil,
Shoshin
, Clemency, chennisden, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud,
Fuscosco
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Post Post #4207 (isolation #222) » Wed May 15, 2019 5:03 am

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In post 4205, RadiantCowbells wrote:The inevitability of people calling me scum
eh, there are some reasons, but I'm not ready yet, I'd rather confirm the other people I should you could be scum with, and then decide
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Post Post #4208 (isolation #223) » Wed May 15, 2019 5:04 am

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I don't know why I'm inserting random words in my sentences, I think someone is trapped inside my head and may be trying to escape
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Post Post #4210 (isolation #224) » Wed May 15, 2019 5:23 am

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Because if I correctly read you then I know I'm good
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Post Post #4212 (isolation #225) » Wed May 15, 2019 5:55 am

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In post 4211, Moongrass wrote:Can we not game throw for your ego tmck? You're not good, you can't read this slot correctly.
Chill
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Post Post #4221 (isolation #226) » Wed May 15, 2019 6:28 am

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So like, actually tell us what you think
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Post Post #4227 (isolation #227) » Wed May 15, 2019 6:36 am

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It's not too late to give your reads
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Post Post #4229 (isolation #228) » Wed May 15, 2019 6:38 am

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If you had to pick two that might be wrong, who would they be?
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Post Post #4239 (isolation #229) » Wed May 15, 2019 7:04 am

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Just tell us so we dont veto them please
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Post Post #4246 (isolation #230) » Wed May 15, 2019 7:34 am

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This is exactly why I'm paranoid about scum being at least two very townread people
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Post Post #4272 (isolation #231) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:01 am

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Ok and TD need to be in the veto no matter what.
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Post Post #4298 (isolation #232) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:21 am

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Tell. Us. Your. Reads.
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Post Post #4302 (isolation #233) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:26 am

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In post 4301, RadiantCowbells wrote:why do they matter?

everyone's advocating doing the exact opposite of what I want anyway, outing my reads just makes it easier for you guys to zero on on exactly who i am most townreading to speedlynch them
ftr

I'm mad at you specifically because you're advocating these plays that do nothing to help me get anywhere in the game and you've resisted actually playing with us when I asked and then told you to multiple times

I thought I proved that I'd work with you if you worked with me with the Oka/BEF thing but I'm not going to sit here and pull teeth every day phase for you to work with us
do you think i should be prioritizing 'getting you anywhere in the game' or finishing this game as cleanly and painlessly as possible for all parties
This doesn't seem like something rc would actually say.
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Post Post #4303 (isolation #234) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:27 am

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Like, he was against us "blowing" things earlier to avoid a problem later on and now hes advocating quickusing something to possibly win now over definitely winning kater
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #235) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:29 am

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In post 4304, RadiantCowbells wrote:you just started the coalition vote that failed

have u considered that maybe your idea of the way things are might not actually correlate all that well to the way that things actually are :?:
Very deeply, that's why I'm reaching out to titus ank and you
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Post Post #4308 (isolation #236) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:37 am

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I've been asking you for your reads like every other post today. Of course I have a contingency plan, but I'm not about that right now. I agree with you about d2 not needing to be paranoid about deepwolves, but you keep shutting down every effort to play with you so I can either ignore you or play against you. You are the one giving me that dichotomy, not me
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Post Post #4310 (isolation #237) » Wed May 15, 2019 8:40 am

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Asking you to state the coalition you want or the reads you've been hinting at all game is not asking you to jump through hoops. Its asking you to play the game you signed up for
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #238) » Wed May 15, 2019 9:54 am

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In post 4312, RadiantCowbells wrote:as soon as I out my coalition scum know whether or not they instantly lose if they don't oppose it.
concealing my reads leaves scum in a difficult situation where they cannot know whether or not I actually have the game solved when they either support or don't support my coalition. reactions when the coalition comes out will be game solving in and of themselves; that coalition was obviously bust by the people who supported it.

i have a game to win. i can either play to win this game or i can play to alleviate your concerns about me deepwolfing, but not both.
Okay, why not give all but two of your coalition? Those two could make or break but the problem is I'm potentially giving you a huge advantage if you're scum for a huge unknown if you're town. If you give all but two, I could know whether what I was thinking you were thinking is correct and it still makes use of surprise.
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Post Post #4349 (isolation #239) » Wed May 15, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 4342, MariaR wrote:Not shocked by that RC col
it's gonna fail but ayyyy I'll vote it just to prove a point
That's because it's his reads plus a veto
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Post Post #4350 (isolation #240) » Wed May 15, 2019 10:34 am

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In post 4347, RadiantCowbells wrote:no we can't because tmck decided he didn't want to give me my coalition
I genuinely thought the plan was to veto first
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Post Post #4352 (isolation #241) » Wed May 15, 2019 10:34 am

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Now I get why you're pissed okay
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Post Post #4366 (isolation #242) » Wed May 15, 2019 11:46 am

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In post 4364, NanceFloor wrote:
Veto


TD
Chenn
Chemist
Clem

I can’t see a world where Overkill11 is town. so pointless putting him into it.

Gun to head Clem and Chenn get NK’d over TD/Chemist.
I like throwing known scum in there bc it can force a kill if we get 3 scum
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Post Post #4368 (isolation #243) » Wed May 15, 2019 11:48 am

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Post Post #4372 (isolation #244) » Wed May 15, 2019 12:18 pm

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In post 4370, Titus wrote:Can you at least comment on my proposed veto of Ank and the Cs?
You and rc agree actually
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Post Post #4375 (isolation #245) » Wed May 15, 2019 1:01 pm

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Chenn is who I'd take out
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Post Post #4383 (isolation #246) » Thu May 16, 2019 12:04 am

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Welcome
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Post Post #4390 (isolation #247) » Thu May 16, 2019 3:30 am

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VOTE: veto
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Post Post #4401 (isolation #248) » Thu May 16, 2019 4:26 am

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No, titus is definitely not the scummiest out of coalition player
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Post Post #4419 (isolation #249) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:24 am

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In post 4418, Moongrass wrote:
In post 4408, RadiantCowbells wrote:I thought we all agreed moongrass was scum but they haven't made even one veto pool
Oh I misread this.
... this cant be true based on your original statement?
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Post Post #4421 (isolation #250) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:26 am

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In post 4420, Moongrass wrote:
In post 4416, RadiantCowbells wrote:No I'm using veto to clean up the coalition like a person who is not bad at mafia
Pretty sure I remember you hating the idea to veto since you couldn't waste our repick to redo coalition...one that you've still not shared.
He gave a reason though
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Post Post #4422 (isolation #251) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:27 am

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Actually, please keep arguing with me that rc is scum. I'm the kind of person that needs to talk decisions through and I need another voice to argue with here
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Post Post #4423 (isolation #252) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:27 am

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In post 4420, Moongrass wrote:
In post 4416, RadiantCowbells wrote:No I'm using veto to clean up the coalition like a person who is not bad at mafia
Pretty sure I remember you hating the idea to veto since you couldn't waste our repick to redo coalition...one that you've still not shared.
Like, this made me realize that as much as I hate it, RC has a point doing it
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Post Post #4425 (isolation #253) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:30 am

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Okay, but can I ask you a question? Do you not see the scum equity for trying to shut down a conversation that could help another town?
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Post Post #4429 (isolation #254) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:36 am

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I think ok is the better choice, or moon
Pedit, can you point out what you mean? Is it the apathy?
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Post Post #4430 (isolation #255) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:36 am

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Or the trying to sell herself as scum
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #256) » Thu May 16, 2019 6:36 am

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*town
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Post Post #4501 (isolation #257) » Thu May 16, 2019 2:04 pm

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I def think nance is right about coalition, I think moon ok and two omcoalition or swap td for moon
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Post Post #4513 (isolation #258) » Thu May 16, 2019 3:28 pm

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Veto: Chemist, Clemency, Overkill11, Moongrass
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Post Post #4567 (isolation #259) » Fri May 17, 2019 2:21 am

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In post 4562, Moongrass wrote:
In post 1876, BNL wrote:
Vote Count 1.2.14BrightEyedFish (6): , , , , ,
(L-3)

chennisden (4): , , ,
themilkcartonkid (2): ,
Fuscosco (1):
OkaPoka (1):


Not Voting (3): , ,

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in
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In post 2003, BNL wrote:
Vote Count 1.2.15BrightEyedFish (7): , , , , , ,
(L-2)

Fuscosco (4): , , ,
themilkcartonkid (2): ,
chennisden (1):
OkaPoka (1):

Not Voting (3): ,

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in
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In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:
@mod, are treestumped players flipped?
Yes.
In post 1969, OkaPoka wrote:
@mod can treestumped players still use their ability?
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Vote Count 1.2.17Fuscosco (7): , , , , , ,
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BrightEyedFish (4): , , ,
mbaki (1):
themilkcartonkid (1):
0verki11 (1):
Taly (1):

Not Voting (2): ,

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

The deadline for elimination is 27 April 12:00pm UTC-4, or in
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Less than 1 day remaining!
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@Mod, what resolves first, the 1-shot repicker or the scum night kill?
The people who stayed on BEF until the end seem less suspicious than those who jumped off last minute like Clemency and JohnnyEnglish/Maria.

RC not voting all day but jumping on scum with his first serious vote is meh.

After some reading I'm happy townreading skygazer, Titus, Tmck, Chenn, PB.
In post 4563, Moongrass wrote:VOTE: Clemency, Chemist, Chen, TD

Though the last two aren't scum reads by play, they have ended up in shady positions on most EoD vote counts.
What happened between these two posts. Also, I like your town pool a lot and it doesn't feel like sheeping consensus
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Post Post #4625 (isolation #260) » Fri May 17, 2019 11:50 am

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V/LA because bachelor camping trip
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Post Post #4626 (isolation #261) » Fri May 17, 2019 11:50 am

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Til Sunday
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Post Post #4771 (isolation #262) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:04 am

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Soooooooo
veto: nancefloor, radiantcowbells, moongrass, PB
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Post Post #4772 (isolation #263) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:09 am

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This may be a terrible idea, but I just got back from backpacking so weeeeeeeee. I think we have a 1v1 and 1 of these people if not both are scum. If moongrass survives, this game is as easy as it seems, but I think were going to force scum to reveal themselves here. Also, scum, you would be an idiot to keep rc alive here because if I tr them after, I'm sheeping them to victory
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Post Post #4774 (isolation #264) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:13 am

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Rc just admitted they wont play until I or they die
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Post Post #4776 (isolation #265) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:27 am

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But that's not why I'm doing this. It seems like two potentially strong players each are sring each other. Vetoing has a high possibility of forcing scum to reveal themselves
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Post Post #4779 (isolation #266) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 4775, Moongrass wrote:Uh? You're assuming RC is town but pushing him like he's scum. You're assuming I'm scum so putting me in the veto makes no sense as I'm either dead or confirmed scum with the worst logic possible. How can you sheep someone who's overtly not playing to victory? Im confused. My brain can't even.

So to simplify, what you're saying is, If I'm left behind I'm confirmed scum and if RC is left behind you'll townread him and sheep? Why bother putting him in at all then?

I wouldn't mind being in the veto with RC and NF if you added TD or Chenn instead of PB. Though you would need to flip all 4 veto before it actually meant anything.
Hmmmmm
Also, rc is not fighting NF, nance is sheeping rc and rc is shielding NF from criticism
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Post Post #4780 (isolation #267) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 4778, Moongrass wrote:
In post 4776, themilkcartonkid wrote:But that's not why I'm doing this. It seems like two potentially strong players each are sring each other. Vetoing has a high possibility of forcing scum to reveal themselves
Can you walk me through how this will force them to reveal themselves?
Either you and pb or nance and rc are scum. You would be forced to strongman rc and nance or they would be forced to strongman you.
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Post Post #4781 (isolation #268) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:35 am

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Also, btw, if rc and nance are alive, we confirm rc by lynching nance and if shes town, then I repick coalition and die and rc runs the game
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Post Post #4784 (isolation #269) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:50 am

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Hmmmm
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Post Post #4790 (isolation #270) » Sat May 18, 2019 11:17 am

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I'm going to join the games I'm interested in, I wont replace it though. I only play 1 game at a time now so it wont be hard
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Post Post #4805 (isolation #271) » Sat May 18, 2019 11:46 am

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Rc, I play 1 game at a time. You play tons. Think about it
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Post Post #4808 (isolation #272) » Sat May 18, 2019 11:48 am

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Man I really didnt want rc as an enemy. I actually like playing with you. I just thought i caught you. If you flip town and we lose, I may stop playing for a long while. I'm about to start medical school anyway so it might be the smart thing anyway
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Post Post #4809 (isolation #273) » Sat May 18, 2019 11:49 am

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I should say I lose, because at that point I think I will have lost the game for people
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Post Post #4810 (isolation #274) » Sat May 18, 2019 11:49 am

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That sounded so self centered. I'm just gonna stop. I'll be back after I sit and think
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Post Post #4819 (isolation #275) » Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 pm

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I actually scumread you. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings by saying that. I was being honest and meant it as a compliment. If I knew it would offend you, I would not have said it. Now I'm going to keep pushing you for the fact that I do sr you and nance.
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Post Post #5026 (isolation #276) » Sun May 19, 2019 1:21 am

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@Nancy, I'm asking you kindly to stop harassing me, thank you.
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Post Post #5163 (isolation #277) » Sun May 19, 2019 6:58 pm

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UNVOTE: okay, two things:
1 rc and pb liked my veto and that's not a good sign for it.
2 that point about fusco and rc was really convincing. I was very wrong
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Post Post #8043 (isolation #278) » Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:25 am

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Back from self-imposed exile to say vindicated. Kthanxbye
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