Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[Ankamius]

radiantkittybells was right on mbaki and I was not right

[Ankamius]

damn it rc you're fussy

[Ankamius]

radiantkittybells was right on mbaki and I was wrong

[Ankamius]

I'm never going to understand you

w/e fuck it

VOTE: Veto

[Ankamius]

gonna be blunt

I really don't care about the order at this point

[Ankamius]

yes I'm afraid of RC's coalition

[Ankamius]

oh look

nancy and I are almost completely synced

[Ankamius]

there better be gossip later or I stg

[Ankamius]

crush thing was eh im not that into anymore

we were really vibing at the start of the night but i feel like she's me and like i dont want to date a second me lol

awk

[Ankamius]

oo nice

that sounds like a fun time

[Ankamius]

ftr I'm not going to vote on a coalition

[Ankamius]

thank you

[Ankamius]

@Mod: In the VCs, can the names in the voted coalitions be alphabetized? It would make reading them much easier.

[Ankamius]

Nancy why does dann feel way different than I'm used to from him now

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Ankamius
VOTE: Chemist1422
VOTE: Clemency
VOTE: Creature
VOTE: MariaR
VOTE: NanceFloor
VOTE: Skygazer
VOTE: themilkcartonkid

There are you happy

[Ankamius]

I don't agree at all that you being included into this coalition means jack shit but I really don't care enough to fight it

I don't think this coalition is good ftr

[Ankamius]

Like my impression of the game is that if the consensus reads are wrong, we need to hard reset over adjusting reads

[Ankamius]

Cool shit RC

[Ankamius]

C O O L
B E A N S

[Ankamius]

Nice I'm glad we are wasting our time for no reason

[Ankamius]

Man isn't this game great rn

[Ankamius]

Maybe we should just throw random shit in there for lulz

[Ankamius]

RC I bet that you have the scumteam narrowed down to 3-4 slots and I'm one of them

[Ankamius]

Idk if I've seen THAT misspelling yet

[Ankamius]

I think maybe I will take a break from the thread until it's time for me to be lynched

[Ankamius]

Who was Titus paired with?

[Ankamius]

Can someone explain why ank is obvtowning here? Not that I dont townread, but I would like to learn more and get better reads

If you’ve ever played with scum!Ank before, you’d know this isn’t it. Scum!Ank’s reads aren’t nuanced or deep. She seems off somehow and I can’t see a world where scum!Ank is mindmelding with me this much. It’s subtle if you don’t know what to look for but I bet money, this is town!Ank we’re seeing here.

I don't feel like I'm out of my scumrange in nuance

[Ankamius]

Can someone explain why ank is obvtowning here? Not that I dont townread, but I would like to learn more and get better reads

She's not obv town but I'm too apathetic to not town read her apathy

I would say this is very different from how I'd expect scum!her to play this game but I can't really say I should be able to confidently read her

- Dann

This apathy talk seems disingenuous. Not from everyone, but from at least 1 of the people doing it.

My town games have been universally terrible and it's just a matter of time until my scumgames become impossible again so I'm not really interested in putting my heart into any of my games anymore, especially if the only ones that go well are my scumgames

[Ankamius]

Can someone explain why ank is obvtowning here? Not that I dont townread, but I would like to learn more and get better reads

If you’ve ever played with scum!Ank before, you’d know this isn’t it. Scum!Ank’s reads aren’t nuanced or deep. She seems off somehow and I can’t see a world where scum!Ank is mindmelding with me this much. It’s subtle if you don’t know what to look for but I bet money, this is town!Ank we’re seeing here.

I don't feel like I'm out of my scumrange in nuance

Your reads are more surfacey as scum, do you dispute this?

My reads have been surfacey here though

[Ankamius]

Then who is going into the coalition

[Ankamius]

If RC flips town this game, my tell on him is likely valid

[Ankamius]

Ftr I don't actually care, take my read how you will

[Ankamius]

So uh

Does anybody feel like moongrass is obvscumming

[Ankamius]

So uh

Does anybody feel like moongrass is obvscumming

Only the whole game :lol:

You can kill me in Veto dw.

Good because you are pretty blatantly scum now

[Ankamius]

Have we ever even played before?

[Ankamius]

:thonk:

If you are who I think you are, then I very strongly doubt you ever thought that

[Ankamius]

Oh.

[Ankamius]

My second theory also makes sense but that's also somebody who I expect to flip scum here playing that way too

So ?????

[Ankamius]

Unless I'm wrong on who you are then idk why you're specifically expecting this level of BoP on reading you from me either

[Ankamius]

The way mbaki played around me

And the way you approached the game.

[Ankamius]

I'm actually even more suspicious of that if I apparently know enough about you to be able to read you with some accuracy

[Ankamius]

I am not drunk

[Ankamius]

Thanks I feel terrible enough about mafia without having that rubbed in again

[Ankamius]

Or isn't in this game

[Ankamius]

Who needs titles

[Ankamius]

Survivor is exactly the best title

[Ankamius]

And here I am hating town and only liking scum

[Ankamius]

VOTE: themilkcartonkid, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency

let's get this shit out of the way

[Ankamius]

SOUNDS LIKE MY EGO

[Ankamius]

too many Cs but not enough cheese

[Ankamius]

I'm not seeing a second coalition

[Ankamius]

Go on...

[Ankamius]

I just wanted the day over rc

I never cared about coalitions

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Veto

[Ankamius]

And I've changed my mind, put me in so I can watch this from somewhere not here

[Ankamius]

yes get me out of this game

[Ankamius]

pagetop

[Ankamius]

Titus when you get around to coloring VCs, post them please

I want to look at them myself

[Ankamius]

if it's not blatantly obvious I'm town at this point, veto me.

I guarantee 100% that town!me dies in any veto

[Ankamius]

plus I guarantee you that nothing I do will ever get people to townread me if everything so far hasn't done it yet

get my flip out of the way so you don't get hung up on it later in the game

[Ankamius]

ftr nancy locktowning me is alignment neutral for her

I'd expect her as either alignment to have that read on me by now

[Ankamius]

the fuck does that even mean TD

[Ankamius]

this is actually really simple Lich

I've gone out of my scumrange multiple times this game, I

SHOULD

be a general locktown read

the fact that I'm not means that it's never going to happen, because I literally cannot do more to prove it without directly hardpushing scumlynches, which is not fucking possible since we're too far up RC's ass with mechanics to allow people to just scumhunt normally.

I'm not going to sit here and watch as I slowly get PoEd down because people are too tunnel visioned on mechanics to actually play the damn game, just get me out while flipping me isn't inherently bad for the game so that you all can fuck yourself over with mechanics and I can watch without having to deal with eventually being lynched because nobody on this site can read me

[Ankamius]

and no, RC cannot read me either.

[Ankamius]

I think this coalition idea was beyond stupid in the first place, why did we even do this?

[Ankamius]

my reads haven't changed other than the fact that I obviously have at least one townread incorrect

[Ankamius]

themilkcartonkid is never scum
Skygazer is never scum
Creature is very unlikely scum
NanceFloor is very unlikely scum
RadiantCowbells is very unlikely scum
Clemency is very unlikely scum

MariaR is unlikely scum
Chemist1422 is unlikely scum but less confident than any of the above
chennisden and Titus are less scummy than the last three slots

Time Devil, 0verki11, Moongrass scumreads

{Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer} --- 4-6 town, 1-3 scum
{Moongrass, Time Devil, MariaR, chennisden, 0verki11, Titus} --- 3-6 town, 0-3 scum

I'm wrong on at least 1 of my strong scumreads
if I'm wrong on one of my strong townreads, it's almost always Clemency or Creature, outside chance of NanceFloor; I don't think I'm wrong on more than one atm
MariaR and Chemist1422 can go either way, Chemist is my choice for scum out of all my townreads combined and he would fulfill the Coalition failing requirement, tbh I could see him being the one scum outside of my PoE list

[Ankamius]

I think Titus is probably town

if Chemist is lonescum in the coalition, Chenn has pretty high scum equity thanks to his general play over the last however long

[Ankamius]

then what's the master plan that apparently PoEs out the game

[Ankamius]

titus will you do your whatever right now if I color every VC

[Ankamius]

Spoiler:

Not Voting (17): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

Shoshin

, Vedith, Creature, Taly, Confirmation Bias , Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

The deadline for choosing a power is 26 April 9:30am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2019-04-26 09:30:00)

8-ball (5): Confirmation Bias, Vedith, NanceFloor, Taly,

BrightEyedFish

Not Voting (12): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

Shoshin

, Creature, Clemency, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

8-ball (9): Confirmation Bias, Vedith, NanceFloor, Taly,

BrightEyedFish

,

Okapoka

, Creature, Chemist1422, mbaki

Not Voting (8): RadiantCowbells, Time Devil,

Shoshin

, Clemency, chennisden, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Not Voting (17): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

Shoshin

, Vedith, Creature, Taly, Confirmation Bias , Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Okapoka

(2): Creature, RadiantCowbells
0verki11 (1): Confirmation Bias
mbaki (1):

Okapoka

NanceFloor (1): Time Devil

Not Voting (12): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Vedith, Clemency, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

, Taly, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Confirmation Bias (2): Taly, RadiantCowbells

Okapoka

(2): Creature, Confirmation Bias
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
chennisden (1):

BrightEyedFish

Time Devil (1): NanceFloor
Shadowlesscloud (1):

Okapoka

Not Voting (9): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Vedith, Clemency, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud,

Fuscosco

Okapoka

(3): Creature, Confirmation Bias,

BrightEyedFish

Confirmation Bias (2): Taly, RadiantCowbells
Time Devil (2): NanceFloor,

Fuscosco

NanceFloor (2): Time Devil, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (1):

Okapoka

mbaki (1): Clemency
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (5): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Okapoka

(3): Creature, Confirmation Bias,

BrightEyedFish

Confirmation Bias (2): Taly, RadiantCowbells
Time Devil (2): NanceFloor,

Fuscosco

NanceFloor (2): Time Devil, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (1):

Okapoka

mbaki (1): Clemency
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (5): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Shadowlesscloud

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Okapoka

(3): Creature,

BrightEyedFish

, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2):

Okapoka

, Confirmation Bias
Confirmation Bias (1): Taly
Time Devil (1):

Fuscosco

mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

Okapoka

(3): Creature,

BrightEyedFish

, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (2):

Okapoka

, Confirmation Bias
Time Devil (1): NanceFloor
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius
chennisden (1):

Fuscosco

Not Voting (7): mbaki,

Shoshin

, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, Taly

Okapoka

(2): Creature,

BrightEyedFish

themilkcartonkid

(2): RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor

BrightEyedFish

(2):

Okapoka

, chennisden
Shadowlesscloud (1): Confirmation Bias
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil
0verki11 (1): Ankamius
chennisden (1):

Fuscosco

Not Voting (6): mbaki,

themilkcartonkid

, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

themilkcartonkid

(3): RadiantCowbells, mbaki, Time Devil

BrightEyedFish

(2):

Okapoka

, chennisden
0verki11 (2): Ankamius, Taly

Okapoka

(1):

BrightEyedFish

Shadowlesscloud (1): Confirmation Bias
mbaki (1): 0verki11
chennisden (1):

Fuscosco

Not Voting (6):

themilkcartonkid

, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor

themilkcartonkid

(3): RadiantCowbells, mbaki, Time Devil

BrightEyedFish

(2):

Okapoka

, chennisden
0verki11 (2): Ankamius, Taly
Shadowlesscloud (1): Confirmation Bias
mbaki (1): 0verki11
chennisden (1):

Fuscosco

Not Voting (7):

themilkcartonkid

, Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor,

BrightEyedFish

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

themilkcartonkid

(4): RadiantCowbells, mbaki, NanceFloor,

Okapoka

BrightEyedFish

(2): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

Shadowlesscloud (1): JohnnyEnglish
0verki11 (1): Taly
mbaki (1): 0verki11
chennisden (1):

Fuscosco

NanceFloor (1): Time Devil

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius

Not Voting (5): Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Clemency, Creature,

BrightEyedFish

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

BrightEyedFish

(6): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

, Clemency,

Okapoka

,

Fuscosco

, JohnnyEnglish (L-3)

themilkcartonkid

(2): mbaki, NanceFloor
chennisden (1):

BrightEyedFish

0verki11 (1): Taly
mbaki (1): 0verki11
NanceFloor (1): Time Devil

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius

Not Voting (4): Chemist1422, Shadowlesscloud, Creature, RadiantCowbells

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

BrightEyedFish

(6): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency,

Okapoka

(L-3)

themilkcartonkid

(4): mbaki, NanceFloor,

BrightEyedFish

, Chemist1422, Taly
mbaki (1): 0verki11

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius
Ankamius (1):

Fuscosco

0verki11 (1): Time Devil

Not Voting (4): Titus, Creature, RadiantCowbells

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

BrightEyedFish

(6): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil (L-3)
chennisden (4): Titus,

Fuscosco

,

Okapoka

, NanceFloor

themilkcartonkid

(2):

BrightEyedFish

, Chemist1422

Fuscosco

(1): mbaki

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius


Not Voting (3): Creature, RadiantCowbells, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

BrightEyedFish

(6): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil (L-3)
chennisden (3): Titus,

Fuscosco

,

Okapoka

themilkcartonkid

(2):

BrightEyedFish

, Chemist1422

Fuscosco

(2): mbaki, RadiantCowbells

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Creature, Taly, NanceFloor

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

BrightEyedFish

(7): chennisden,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, 0verki11, Time Devil,

Fuscosco

(L-2)

Fuscosco

(4): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor,

Okapoka

themilkcartonkid

(2):

BrightEyedFish

, Chemist1422
chennisden (1): Titus

Okapoka

(1): Ankamius

Not Voting (3): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Fuscosco

(6): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

,

themilkcartonkid

(L-3)

BrightEyedFish

(5): chennisden, JohnnyEnglish, 0verki11, Time Devil,

Fuscosco

themilkcartonkid

(1): Chemist1422
chennisden (1): Titus
0verki11 (1): Clemency
Taly (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Fuscosco

(7): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish (L-2)

BrightEyedFish

(4): chennisden, 0verki11, Time Devil,

Fuscosco

mbaki (1): Titus

themilkcartonkid

(1): Chemist1422
0verki11 (1): Clemency
Taly (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

Not Voting (16): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Protect (2): RadiantCowbells, Ankamius
Coalition (1): chennisden

Not Voting (13): mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Coalition (3): chennisden, NanceFloor, 0verki11
Protect (1): Ankamius
Dance (1): RadiantCowbells
1of4 (1): Time Devil

Not Voting (10): mbaki,

Okapoka

,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, Chemist1422,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Dance (4): RadiantCowbells,

themilkcartonkid

, chennisden,

Okapoka

Coalition (3): NanceFloor, 0verki11, Taly
1of4 (1): Time Devil
Call a friend (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Creature, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, Chemist1422,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Dance (5): RadiantCowbells,

themilkcartonkid

, chennisden,

Okapoka

, 0verki11
Coalition (1): NanceFloor
1of4 (1): Time Devil
Call a friend (1): Ankamius
Veto (1): Titus

Not Voting (7): mbaki, Creature, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, Chemist1422,

BrightEyedFish

, Taly

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to select a power.

Dance (9): RadiantCowbells,

themilkcartonkid

, chennisden,

Okapoka

, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Taly (P-0)
1of4 (1): Time Devil
Veto (1): Titus

Not Voting (5): mbaki, Creature, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, Chemist1422

Not Voting (16): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Not Voting (16): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11,

BrightEyedFish

, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

chennisden/Titus (1):

BrightEyedFish

Creature/Chemist1422 (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (14): RadiantCowbells, mbaki,

Okapoka

, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Taly, JohnnyEnglish, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(4): chennisden, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, Time Devil
Creature/Chemist1422 (3): Ankamius, mbaki,

Okapoka

chennisden/Titus (1):

BrightEyedFish

Ankamius/Clemency (1): JohnnyEnglish

Not Voting (7):

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Taly, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(4): chennisden, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, Time Devil
Creature/Chemist1422 (3): Ankamius, mbaki,

Okapoka

chennisden/Titus (1):

BrightEyedFish

Ankamius/Clemency (1): JohnnyEnglish

Not Voting (7):

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Taly, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(4): chennisden, Clemency, RadiantCowbells, Time Devil
Creature/Chemist1422 (3): mbaki,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

Ankamius/Clemency (3): JohnnyEnglish, Ankamius,

themilkcartonkid

Not Voting (6): Creature, Taly, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Ankamius/Clemency (4): JohnnyEnglish,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Clemency
Creature/Chemist1422 (3): mbaki,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(3): RadiantCowbells, Time Devil, chennisden

Not Voting (6): Taly, NanceFloor, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus, Ankamius

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Creature/Chemist1422 (5): mbaki,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

, NanceFloor, 0verki11
Ankamius/Clemency (4): JohnnyEnglish,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Clemency

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(4): RadiantCowbells, Time Devil, chennisden, Titus

Not Voting (3): Taly, Chemist1422, Ankamius

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Ankamius/Clemency (5): JohnnyEnglish,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Clemency, RadiantCowbells
Creature/Chemist1422 (5): mbaki,

Okapoka

,

BrightEyedFish

, NanceFloor, 0verki11

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(4): Time Devil, chennisden, Titus, Ankamius

Not Voting (2): Taly, Chemist1422

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(5): Time Devil, chennisden, Titus, Ankamius, RadiantCowbells
Ankamius/Clemency (4): JohnnyEnglish,

themilkcartonkid

, Creature, Clemency
Creature/Chemist1422 (2):

Okapoka

, 0verki11
chennisden/Titus (1):

BrightEyedFish

RadiantCowbells/0verki11 (1): mbaki

Not Voting (3): Taly, Chemist1422, NanceFloor

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Okapoka

/

BrightEyedFish

(9): Time Devil, chennisden, Titus, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, NanceFloor, Clemency, Ankamius,

themilkcartonkid

Creature/Chemist1422 (2):

Okapoka

, 0verki11
Ankamius/Clemency (1): JohnnyEnglish
chennisden/Titus (1):

BrightEyedFish

RadiantCowbells/0verki11 (1): mbaki

Not Voting (2): Chemist1422, Creature

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a pair.

Not Voting (14): RadiantCowbells, Moongrass, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Skygazer, MariaR, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a power.

Coalition (8): Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, MariaR, Chemist1422, NanceFloor, Creature, RadiantCowbells, Moongrass (P-0)
Vengeful (1): chennisden
Veto (1): Ankamius

Not Voting (4): Skygazer, Clemency, 0verki11, Titus

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a power.

Not Voting (14): RadiantCowbells, Moongrass, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Skygazer, MariaR, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a coalition of 8.

themilkcartonkid

, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency (3):

themilkcartonkid

, Moongrass, Chemist1422
NanceFloor,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Creature, MariaR, Clemency (1): NanceFloor

Not Voting (10): RadiantCowbells, Time Devil, Ankamius, Creature, Skygazer, MariaR, Clemency, chennisden, 0verki11, Titus

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a coalition of 8.

themilkcartonkid

, Skygazer, RadiantCowbells, Creature, NanceFloor, Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency (5): Moongrass, Chemist1422, Creature, chennisden, Time Devil
Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, MariaR, NanceFloor, Skygazer,

themilkcartonkid

(1): Ankamius
Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer,

themilkcartonkid

(1): NanceFloor

Not Voting (7): RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, MariaR, Clemency, 0verki11, Titus,

themilkcartonkid

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a coalition of 8.

Ankamius, Chemist1422, Clemency, Creature, NanceFloor, RadiantCowbells, Skygazer,

themilkcartonkid

(8): Moongrass, Chemist1422, Creature, chennisden, Time Devil, NanceFloor, MariaR, Ankamius

Not Voting (6): RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Clemency, 0verki11, Titus,

themilkcartonkid

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a coalition of 8.

Not Voting (14): RadiantCowbells, Moongrass, Time Devil,

themilkcartonkid

, Ankamius, Creature, Skygazer, MariaR, Clemency, NanceFloor, chennisden, Chemist1422, 0verki11, Titus

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to select a power.

[Ankamius]

Fuscosco

(9): mbaki, RadiantCowbells, NanceFloor,

OkaPoka

,

BrightEyedFish

,

themilkcartonkid

, JohnnyEnglish,

Fuscosco

, Ankamius (LYNCH)

BrightEyedFish

(3): chennisden, 0verki11,

Fuscosco

mbaki (1): Titus

themilkcartonkid

(1): Chemist1422
0verki11 (1): Clemency

Not Voting (2): Creature, Taly

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to eliminate a player.

[Ankamius]

like I don't see how I can be very far off, like adding chennisden to my PoE list and confscumming him because of the coalition is literally where I'm at

chennisden + Time Devil + 0verki11

[Ankamius]

Here are the pairings for the Dance:

Player 1	Player 2
RadiantCowbells	0verki11
mbaki	NanceFloor
OkaPoka	BrightEyedFish
Time Devil	themilkcartonkid
Ankamius	Clemency
Creature	Chemist1422
Taly	JohnnyEnglish
chennisden	Titus

this fits like every criteria I have for what scum did for dance

[Ankamius]

why

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Lynch

[Ankamius]

can we

just not

do that

thanks

[Ankamius]

or alternatively

you could play the game instead of trying to brute force everybody to bend to your will for no reason other than your name

[Ankamius]

And what exactly are you losing by outing it now

[Ankamius]

then

at least out your reads?

[Ankamius]

wasn't the whole point of using veto to clear the coalition pool

why are there so many suggestions with no coalition members

what does this even mean

[Ankamius]

"we put all the consensus townreads and others in the coalition"

"better clean out the townreads to find the most likely only one scum in the coalition!!!!"

[Ankamius]

hi let's play via reads

and not what is 'mechanically optimal'

so that we can figure out whether our reads are valid?

[Ankamius]

well thanks for playing with us and letting us know what they are then RC

[Ankamius]

I'm supporting an overkill/TD/chenn/x veto

until I see a damn good reason to do otherwise, I'm not supporting it

[Ankamius]

not supporting any other vetoes*

[Ankamius]

yes I am

and I also strongly believe that we'd get a lot more mileage out of flipping the consensus scumreads than by doing whatever the hell we're trying to do now to sort the coalition

since

you know

we've essentially stagnated with the same reads for weeks at this point and you're advocating for us not to progress our reads at all?

[Ankamius]

like other than a brief stint of barely townreading him for a time in D1, I've thought 0verki11 was scum for literally the entire game since I replaced in

I've had Time Devil as a scumread for close to the entire game

my other scumreads have shifted around, but a lot of it is predicated around the idea that my reads are mostly valid

and my reads are literally not being tested

and there are no nightkills to analyze so that I can get a read on what scum are doing

literally the only information I have to build a gamestate read is the day 1 8ball lynch and the dance partners

I HAVE NOTHING TO WORK WITH

[Ankamius]

whatever RC

you're more important than everyone else in the game and that's all that matters

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Veto

PLEASE veto me

[Ankamius]

because I've been stuck in the same rut for like 3 weeks now and you're literally advocating for a play that will do nothing but kill two of my townreads

what exactly is the benefit of that fmpov

[Ankamius]

like

wow

four townreads get vetoed

two townreads die

that sure does a lot for my reads!

[Ankamius]

I know that AT LEAST ONE of my townreads are wrong

FOR ALL I KNOW IT IS EXACTLY ONE

AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO SLOTS I'M BARELY TOWNREADING IN THE FIRST PLACE

PUT THOSE TWO IN AND TWO BIGGER TOWNREADS AND THE TWO BIGGER TOWNREADS DIE

THEN WHAT

[Ankamius]

ftr

I'm mad at you specifically because you're advocating these plays that do nothing to help me get anywhere in the game and you've resisted actually playing with us when I asked and then told you to multiple times

I thought I proved that I'd work with you if you worked with me with the Oka/BEF thing but I'm not going to sit here and pull teeth every day phase for you to work with us

[Ankamius]

i don't understand your reluctance to lynch in a pool that is confirmed to contain scum. i don't.

because getting townflips on my scumreads will do more for my reads than getting townflips on my townreads?

[Ankamius]

I guess I should've known something was really off when the dominant reaction to the townblock coalition failing was to start flipping all of them

[Ankamius]

creature hasnt been a free read for a while and when he rolls scum people get stomped because people still think he is.

in mini 2077 we wouldve stomped if it hadnt been for our best friend RAS

this type of thing is a pretty big reason why I think a lot of people would be better players without trying to use meta reads

[Ankamius]

ankamius!!

heya

gg

[Ankamius]

there were no consensus TRs except like

NF and Sky later

the third consensus was, well, scum so.

the problem is

at that point in the game, a lot of the general reads were that the players outside of the coalition were the predominant scumreads

my entire thought process was that since we know we're wrong, we need to start figuring out which of these scumreads are actually town so we can start figuring out WHICH townreads are wrong

it's a lot easier to fix reads when you start flipping people who aren't the alignment you thought they were rather than flipping people who were correct reads

[Ankamius]

Towns really shouldn't be relying on mechanics to win the game when there is any possibility of scum having someone who can competently manipulate setups like this, it's almost always better to use mechanics to supplement day play when you have the ability to and I've seen scum win through mechanical play far more often than town unless the setup itself is hilariously broken in a way where scum just can't deal with it at all.

that's the primary example that I think town would've been far better off this game, I really think the coalition -> veto -> coalition play that ended up happening was a horrific mess that basically threw away town's chance of correcting their reads.

[Ankamius]

Why not make lynching the 8 ball immediately cause rocks to fall and everybody to die

[Ankamius]

I might not have gotten so upset that I left had you stayed, taly

[Ankamius]

You're welcome for the ptsd, Pink Ball

[Ankamius]

Tbh after I saw the amount of people disagreeing with me on how to handle the veto, I probably would've just vegetated if I didn't replace

[Ankamius]

I feel like Taly is the kind of player that would townread me as scum, sky

That's why

[Ankamius]

townread me when I'm scum*

I generally correct people when they townread me for reasons I shouldn't because townreads for reasons like that are very very very fragile to paranoia reads.

[Ankamius]

(and I'm honestly fed up with paranoia reads because those tend to be for reasons just as bad as why a lot of people end up townreading me when they townread me)

[Ankamius]

pagetop

[Ankamius]

can I mourn like

every game

[Ankamius]

I was prepared to stop caring about that, but then I replaced out and fought

[Ankamius]

Tbh after I saw the amount of people disagreeing with me on how to handle the veto, I probably would've just vegetated if I didn't replace

I wish you had stayed and not ask to be vetoed because we both recognized that vetoing obvtown made no sense but I would have hoped that the moment Creature wanted me and Sky to be in veto, would have been the exact same moment you lost your obvtown Creature read.

That is not to say, I didn’t absolutely love having PB in this game too. <3

I remember you fighting me on that too, Nancy

[Ankamius]

Most town didn't play very well honestly

[Ankamius]

Ok

But Titus plays wrong in the same way consistently game after game

If your play is unpredictably bad, it's hard to suggest change

When you make the same mistakes for 6 years it's a lot easier

Fair

Idk what to really suggest though, she plays the way she does because of how her brain is wired

[Ankamius]

I used bad wording, yeah

I more mean the overall style is based on that and the solution isn't as simple as people are saying they are

[Ankamius]

guys roast my gameplay here