Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

[Almost50]

VOTE: Almost50

Hello to you too

OK, here's a question: I skimmed D2 & 3. Didn't touch D1. Is it better to do a proper read of D2 or to read 60+ pages of D1 stuff?

Also, I am confused. I thought I had played this setup before, but obviously not. I though this was the 2-grids setup with the old Beginners game grid applied once for Mafia and another for Wolves. Now I need to read the setup more and do the math, but I think I got to Tx2 or more for Mafia and Tx3 or Tx4 for Wolves (I did this last night before I went to sleep, so I need to redo with more concentration in case I made a mistake)

[Almost50]

Say, I will be back later and I really do hope I find a n answer to the question about reading D1 (Cuz I don't

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[Almost50]

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???? You never before implied you didn't want to play with me!

[Almost50]

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Can you clarify?
Same person, different Alt?

No. Percy didn't/doesn't want to play with me, but he never told me that before. Now I know though.

Anyway, since nobody responded I decided not to read D1 at all. I skimmed Sky's ISO though and noticed her suspicion of Vorkuta being a traitor. Sky flipped Guardian though and there was not enough info for her to deduce there was a traitor on either side. It was interesting to see both scum teams shooting her (unless she blocked the WW kill or Shoshin blocked the Mafia kill).

I also noted Irrel brought up the traitor again, so IF there's a traitor it's probably between Irrel & Vorkuta with the other being the main member of their team.

Finally, Percy (now Titus) believing they were targeted by Shoshin is off and gives me pause. Could it be that this is the Mafia slot that was blocked on N1?? But why blatantly claim it?? I'm confused.

[Almost50]

Oh, and I did make a mistake. skitter flipped Alpha Wolf so it's definitely not Tx3/Tx4. I knew I was asleep when I did nthat, but now I need to do it all over again.

OK, so noting that's it's Tx0/Tx1/Tx2 or Tx5/Tx6 (Alpha rules out 3/4 and Guardian means at least Dx1 so Tx7 is out of question)

For Mafia, Jailer = at least Dx2 so not Tx7/Tx6 and there's no goon for Tx0 so it's Tx1/2/3/4/5

[Almost50]

Say, I will be back later and I really do hope I find a n answer to the question about reading D1 (Cuz I don't

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Hey NotForever21

Read it. It'd be fun.

-BuJ

Like I said, I won't do it unless I have to, and I don't think I'm in that situation yet. (Plus, you know.. reading 60 pages only to get shot next night sucks).

[Almost50]

All you need to know is Dunn is scum

You can lynch him for all I care, but -as I'm not picking up fights and due to my own mistake- I won't be pushing there. For your reference.

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50

Hi.

Hello, Titus. Long time
I've got to wan you though: The last man who did this soon replaced out.

[Almost50]

No, Im not

Oh, yes you are. Why deny it!

[Almost50]

Do you really think he's
-scum
-a better lynch than Dunn/ Persy'sReplacement=A50 though

WAIT A SECOND

@everyone

now that persivul is gone, can I resume my

strikethrough

usage?

Let me know if I'm misunderstanding this, but you thought I replaced Percy??

[Almost50]

town 1 shot cop

GDI. I knew something was missing when I did the setup spec the second time still. So, at least Dx2 got the Jailkeeper AND at least Cx1 for the 1-Shot Cop. This means a max of Tx4 on the mafia side, but at least 1 because Tx0 has no goon.

So basically 2 Goons + (Roleblocker/Role Cop) (Tx4/Tx3) or Goon + (Roleblocker/Role Cop) + (Godfather/Ninja) (Tx2/Tx1)/ So, again.. they're guaranteed a RB/RC. Well that explains the skitter kill either way. Mafia either blocked the WW kill on N1 and deduced skitter was doing it, or they Role Copped her on N1. (am I getting myself killed yet?)

[Almost50]

Almost50 is pretty much scum.

Thank you

[Almost50]

No he thought you’re a better lynch than persi or dunn

OIC. Well, I don't think I am, but it's a free forum and all.

[Almost50]

coolio my reads stand as before, mostly.

Wheres A50?

VOTE: amost 50

I didn't comment in this because it looks like a pressure vote. If you scum read me/my slot please state your case so we can discuss.

[Almost50]

Ok. I am waned.

Shall you wax me now? I feel like going to the moon.

[Almost50]

davesaz is another scum.

Oh, prey tell. Because this is exactly the town!davesaz I've come to know over the years.

[Almost50]

Also I’m losing my davesaz townread for sure

Your opportunism has been noted.

[Almost50]

please state your case so we can discuss.

I dont have a case on an empty slot.

I just want a read or seven from you rn

Try

reading my posts

? I have yet to hit the 20 posts mark, so it shouldn't be a problem. For instance I mentioned Irrel/Vor for a team if there is a traitor in play. I've just called davesaze a townie (that wasn't said before you requested my reads, so that's OK). Creature is acting funny (i.e. scum lean for me). I think DDJ are town, and I'm not sure about Dunn but I said I won't be pushing him based on a recent experience (P.S. PP had his vote on Dunn though and I didn't change it yet).

I dunno about you. Your posts sound town enough but your voting patterns do not, so there's that.

We have a claimed 1-shot Cop (Chenn), so that's another town slot (with the reservation it could be a WW who also rolled Cop) << This part wasn't obvious in the wiki page, so when I skimmed Irrel's ISO and saw him mentioning that I went back to check the examples sheet and it shows that it could be the case indeed. My point is Irrel mentioning our of the blue could be TMI (nor saying he is a wolf with Chenn, but he could be either type od scum and doing his best to shade a town PR all the same so as not to have them confirmed).

This leaves Baezu & Titus in my null area.

You're welcome.

[Almost50]

@duck, @almost, @dunnstral

thoughts on my 2054 and following posts?

2054 was certainly interesting albeit inconclusive. It's a weak indicator at best.

I am still not sure what to make of Percy's ISO as a whole, and Titus has yet to open up too. That said, I could be biased because I am suspicious of you (for reasons mentioned before). Unless you can convince me you're a townie I will always look at your cases on others with a skeptical eye.

[Almost50]

davesaz is another scum.

Ya kinda starting to feel this too

VOTE: davesaz

Let's experiment.

"Bad vote!" is all I got to say. It's a free forum though. *Shrug*

[Almost50]

Oh man, I want to flash.

What do you mean?

VOTE: dave

Listen, guys. before this becomes a thing I'd recommend you go read any recent (or not so recent) games of dave. If you still think this is scum him then by all mean, vote him and show me why so I can sheep. Based on my own experience with him this is exactly what I'd expect town!him to be posting.

[Almost50]

Percyslot shouldnt be town.

Maybe

dave is a good wagon

Nope

idk why people think dunn died

Maybe because he's not posting anymore?

Like, are people suddenly not willing to L-1 him?

I haven't been in here long enough to notice that. Well, what was the case on him again?

[Almost50]

Why do you want to be read as traitor

Can I get this in english please?

STOP FISHING FOR YOUR PARTNERS AND ASKING TO BE RECRUITED

OK, so if this is what you really think then why aren't we lynching Vor?

[Almost50]

Akshully, how does one traitor/defector work in this anyway?

I don't think they can be recruited (might've missed it on the wiki though), but they die if we lynch their main team. It's worthy to note the team with the Traitor is the one of Tier 1 strength (while the other is tier 2 or 3), and unfortunately so far both teams could be tier 1. (Mafia are 1 or 2 and Wolves are 1 or 3)

[Almost50]

Oh, well I've already pointed out that there's a 95% chance of 3:3
I think flips potentially rule out 2:2 anyway

Enlighten me! I double checked -again- and I don't see what excludes both sides having rolled Tier 1.

[Almost50]

Actually, wait! Tier 1 is the higher Ts

Yeah. DD for the JK and C for the 1-shot Cop means Mafia cannot be tier 1. I'm stupid.

So Mafia are tier 2 or 3 and WWs are tier 1 or 3, and with one side guaranteed not to be tier 1 it must be 3:3.

[Almost50]

I think creature is townish and he has good reads and he townreads Vorkuta

Good way to absolve yourself of the read. Just blame that guy for it.

[Almost50]

A50 can you come back and read a few ISOs for me
I thought your pred was town and I would like a town voice to talk to me about my reads
fusc some IRL days I feel you've obvscum and other IRL days I think you're the towniest player alive

I now have posted my reads. They're not conclusive but that's how they're shaping right now.

[Almost50]

fusc some IRL days I feel you've obvscum and other IRL days I think you're the towniest player alive

Can you update me on your reads I bet if we're both town we have a strong PoE. If you're scum hopefully the last petal on this rose is "loves me not" and I realize the truth before eod.

this should be its own post it looks like it's to A50 but it's not

I indeed thought it was addressed to me, and I immediately though of that game where we had to elect 5 townies on D1 to won. Sky was scum though and skitter was town in that game.

[Almost50]

I think A50 and Creature are more likely to be town than you have them there

Maybe titus/vork/dave/dunn are the scum? Sounds weirdly easy

pedit: yeah I think I still like dave as town then
titus/A50/dunnstral/baezu

LOL! You could've waited a minute for that switch!

[Almost50]

can't confirm given only chennis's 1-shot cop + roster goon

Dude, you forgot about the JK flip!!!

[Almost50]

1, 3, or 5 D's from JK flip. I assume 3 because math reasons T D D D

This is a bit confusing. What I see is:

Dx1 = Doctor
Dx2 = Jailkeeper
Dx3 = Jailkeeper, Doctor
Dx4 = Jailkeeper, Doctor, 1-Shot Doctor
Dx5 = Jailkeeper, Doctor, Doctor

Why exclude 2/4?

[Almost50]

Spoiler:

We have the following letters "confirmed", and I want more
Mafia: T C D D X X X && Wolves: T D X X X X X

Because irrelephant has decided to accuse me of traitor posting, let's logic that out.

For there to be a MAFIA traitor this game, There needs to be a T1 (7~5Ts) < T2/T3 (0~4)Ts.
As we can already see, even the worst case scenario of T T T T C D D still puts mafia in T2.
This makes a mafia traitor PHYSICALLY impossible.

There can still be a werewolf defector in the game, but again: worst case scenario (T (T T T T) D X) we need only 2 more wolf letters worth of information to PoE a werewolf defector.

Do you guys NOT SEE how many tricks we can do?
Like.... *sighs*

OK, you can go back to null -at worst- for now. I dunno why you'd be posting this if you're scum, but I am not quite sure I'm on top of the game and I certainly don't expect ALL my reads to be spot on.

[Almost50]

And please guys- don't make me spoonfeed AND spoil any more thigns.
I already really don't like giving up this much info.

The main argument against the mass claim is we'd be exposing whatever we have left of PRs. Don't forget we already lost a Guardian AND a JK, so we could be exposed to at least one side's kills if not both.

[Almost50]

VOTE: A50

This better be the duck!

[Almost50]

So Mafia are tier 2 or 3 and WWs are tier 1 or 3, and with one side guaranteed not to be tier 1 it must be 3:3.

Umm why can't we be tier 1? #suspicious

Scum Drunken claim???

VOTE: Titus

@Vort: See? We don't need a mass claim to lynch scum today. (Just get them drunk).

[Almost50]

Say what do u think of phantom of the elephants?

I already gave my reads. Are you reading my posts?

[Almost50]

Ok A50, hi

And hello to you.. again.

[Almost50]

Can I interest either of you in a nice Dunn wagon?

Mate, my slot's vote was stuck om Dunn since before I joined the game and it never went anywhere. Why do you think me rejoining it will make a difference now? Dunn is not interacting anyway and he has this gift of staying in the shadows without being questioned about it.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Dunn

So that dave's intent means something and Dunn -hopefully- at least claims.

[Almost50]

So Vork was indeed crumbing defector. Good to know.
That makes WWs Tx5/Tx6 (Tier 1), and this means the Mafia are Tx3/Tx4 (Tier 2).
Actually the Mafia are CDDITTT precisely. They have a goon and a Roleblocker/Role Cop left alive.
The WWs are D?TTTTT or DTTTTTT with one Basic WW left alive.

I can only deduce Davesaz isn't a WW (both skitter & Vork were wagoning him at the start of D1) and that Irrel may or may not have tracked Titus to a kill (if he did he didn't want to claim but kept pushing there for some time).

If Titus is Mafia then she can do her VCA in private and shoot the WW anyway. My worry though is if she's not, as then we need to find all 3 ant-town slots ourselves.

More later

[Almost50]

just a reminder skitter irrationally hard defended vork so he was more likely shot my mafia than woofers

That's a brilliant observation, Ducky! And here I was thinking the Wolves would shoot someone crumbing traitor knowing they are the team with the traitor!

[Almost50]

Yeah, I'm scum and I'm doing my setup analysis because I've got nothing better to do!

Yell me something.. am I the Wolf (that shot his own buddy knowingly after having pushed him for being a traitor), or am I Mafia (who has been begging the Wolves to shoot them for seemingly knowing there is a traitor "on the other side")? Like, I had a feeling we still had a TPR and I was trying my best to eat the bullet in their stead, but the dumb wolves (no offense) specifically shot the person I was trying to protect by accusing them of being a WOLF! I don't even know what they gain from shooting the Tracker (since he couldn't have tracked their kill anyway), and now we know we have no more TPRs that can catch/protect against the Mafia.

[Almost50]

So basically, I am too important to kill but to unsorted to live? I can deal with this read atm.

Basically I want you to try your VCA magic and catch the lone wolf for us today, so we can save the town a NK.

6-2-1 now.. 5-2-1 with a mislynch, 3-2-1 is the worst case scenario tomorrow
6-2-1 now.. 6-1-1 with a Mafia lynch, 4-1-1 is the worst case scenario tomorrow
6-2-1 now.. 6-2-0 with a WW lynch, 5-2-0 is the worst case scenario tomorrow

The difference is 4-1-1 becomes a TOWN LOSS if we mislynch (i.e. it's actually MyLo), while 5-2-0 gives us another mislynch before LyLo

[Almost50]

And I don't even care if you're Mafia here. It is still i8n your best interest to lynch the wolf lest they shoot you or your partner tonight.

[Almost50]

1- I am waiting for Titus to do her VCA before I comment any further. I've done mine and I came up with 3 suspects (Titus NOT one of them)m so that's all for now.

2- @Fuscosco: Titus is NOT a Wolf. I am like 90-95% sure. She's either Town or Mafia. Please unvote for now.

3- @BuJ: My argument was NOT about me doing the setup spec. It was about outing the results earlier. Let me simplify things for you:

"Someone" shot Vork. It can't be Wolf!me because I was -obviously- calling him a Traitor. As a Wolf I must've known the traitor role was on my side, so I most certainly wouldn't waste my NK on him. Agreed?

So, it must've been Mafia!Me, except Mafia!Me doesn't "say it out loud". I mean, forget about baiting the NK.. just consider my motive -as a Mafioso- to shoot someone who was going to suicide if I ever shot his p (or if his p got lynched). Why would I waste my shot on the Defector when I had a better shot nailing the actual Wolf instead?

So, what I'[m saying is I wouldn't have shot Vork as either anti-town alignment. Period. (And you should know by heart whom I would have actually shot, since I couldn't pocket them)

[Almost50]

There's only one Traitor on the Wolves' side, along with the (dead) GF and the living Goon.
Mafia have no Traitor, buts still have a Role Cop or a Roleblocker (one or the other) and a Goon, in addition to the flipped Goon.

[Almost50]

Traitors know their teams right? How many on each side?

We think its 3up and yes, they should

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. The only missing piece of the puzzle is one letter on the WW's side that does NOT affect their formation.

[Almost50]

@Fuscosco: THERE IS NO RECRUITMENT. The Traitor cannot be recruited in this setup. The Mafia/WWs are notified there's a Traitor "out there" but not whom it is. The Traitor/Defector is notified of their main team members. Does anybody read the wiki???

[Almost50]

Mafia have no Traitor

hmmm?

A Traitor and a Defector cannot exists in the same game. They are a "balancing" mechanic specifically if a team is Tier 1 (2 members) and the other is Tier 2/3 (3 members). If both teams are 2 members the game is balanced and the same applies if both are already of 3 members.

[Almost50]

So who is scum here? Take a guess?

If maf have no traitor, who do you think is buds?

I-want-to-wait-for-Titus'-VCA-to-see-if-we-have-the-same-reads/conclusions

[Almost50]

Now nka because why didn't mafia kill chenn

Why would they waste a shot on a 1-shot Cop who has already used it up?

[Almost50]

@A50 thoughts?

The major difference between our reads is I could see Creature as either anti-town alignments the way he's playing. He has been away for great chunks of the game.

Other than that, I think Baezu is my #1 suspect for a WW, and if I let go of my paranoia about you then I agree Fuscosco would be my #1 Mafia read, followed by -again- Creature.

I thought All of dave, DDJ & Chenn were town already, so my lynch pool was in Creature/Titus/Baezu/Fuscosco, but I think I can exclude you for now, so yeah.. well done.

[Almost50]

Do you think ddj irrelephant and baezu are the scums?

Irrel is DEAD. He was a Tracker. I can't believe you ISO'd the MOD and didn't see THAT, so you're right back in the suspects pool, my fair lady!

[Almost50]

Why is ddj in your town pool? Where is Irrelephant11? Does Fus early vote before the guilty change things?

Because I kinda can read both heads to a good degree of reliability
He's DEAD in N3
I have no idea about his meta (don't recognize the name) but what's to stop anyone from voting their scum p for distancing at the start of the day?? I mean, the guilty hit there.. tough luck, but it apparently worked. *Shrug*

[Almost50]

Oh and Creature not likely mafia due to d1 vote on foster. He's not likely ww due to being Skinner's neighbor vote on the PP wagon d1

OK. You do your VCA different than I do mine. Creature doesn't follow any rules though, and I didn't read D1 myself.. but OK. So, Baezu it is then?

[Almost50]

Seriously, what benefit does scum!me get from FoSing the dead townie?

To insinuate you didn't kill him (you wouldn't forget whom you shot, right?)

[Almost50]

VOTE: Baezu

[Almost50]

A50 could be scum the way A50 was trying to get everyone off of Dave
I really think persi (now Titus) is scum - more likely mafia than wolf
Last wolf is prob duck

Hold on a second! I'm Mafia

with Titus

????? And it's because I was getting everyone off dave (whom you obviously town read yourself)? And you couldn't find a better Wolf candidate than DDJ (who were voting next to skitter on bth Chemist and Baezu on D1 and again on roster on D2)??

On contrary, Vortuka's vote was more attacjed to skitter (him being the Defector who recognized his team and was trying his best to signal it) and when she was NK'd it became attached to yours.. and you want me to believe it's DDJ over you????

[Almost50]

Hmmm.. now considering Creature more for a Mafioso. I get the feeling he's trying to pocket the Wolf AND keep her alive to benefit from that extra NK tonight. *Thinking*

Or maybe

I am

wrong about Baezu and Creature's the Wolf and he wants the Mafia to shoot Baezu while he performs another kill??

OK..

@Creature: So far you've accused me, Titus & Fuscosco if being anti-town. That should clear both DDJ & dave in your eyes. Right? Who would you want to vote out if us three then? In fact, which of us id the lone wolf?

[Almost50]

Let's see..

IF Baezu is Mafia; her p is in Fuscosco/dave/Creature Wolf is between Titus/DDJ (I refuse to believe this is the case because I think Titus could be Mafia but not Wolf and I TR DDJ)

If Baezu is Town; Fuscosco/dave/Creature have no incentive to defend her as either Mafia/WW, so they should also be Town. Add chenn and you get DDJ/Titus/A50 as the anti-town trio (Obviously this is not the case because -at least- I know my own alignment)

If Baezu is WW; Fuscosco/dave are town, but Creature could very well be Mafia who wants to let Baezu live to get another kill through, but doesn't want to push elsewhere so as not to be too obvious. (Some will object to that logic, I know,, but it's how I think of it). The Other Mafioso should be Titus still. (Explains why he coupled me with her as the Mafia team. If she ever flips he can push for me next, and if he is flipped first he's distanced himself from her enough).

So, I think Baezu is almost confirmed WW by now.

P-edit: @dave: Please read this post and evaluate. We can lynch Titus tomorrow still.

[Almost50]

We don't need quotes anymore. It's how the votes went and why. Neither the Mafia nor the WW have any motive to try to derail a "miclynch" at this point, so Baezu is not a townie by any account. If she was, then she would have been lynched already (and she was @L-1, unless you believe I am Mafia/WW AND so are DDJ/Titus).

[Almost50]

I know it looks a bit clearer from my PoV, but do you SR ALL THREE if us?

[Almost50]

Not being hammered in a non-lylo situation does not mean anything, especially in MB.
If you're trying to base a decision on that, it's a foolish approach.

If you say so. To me I think EVEN IF only one of the 3 scums was off the wagon of a townie and it got to L-1 they would have hammered it (that's unless they are Mafia, they do read her as a WW, and they don't want to lynch her). But maybe not everyone plays like I do (I'm sure they don't) so we'll see..

[Almost50]

I kind of feel like modding soon.

Any good ideas to whet my feet?

If you run this, drop me an invitation to play.

[Almost50]

Here? Or in that game??

I don't really care about how I'm read here at this point. I do believe that once Baezu is flipped I have a very good chance of being the NK, so... *Shrug*

[Almost50]

Shouldnt matter if youll be the nk, rite?

I think it should. I read Titus as a possible Mafioso. I read Baezu as the last WW. Eliminating a NK is far more beneficial to town. Unless you can somehow guarantee Baezu will be shot by the Mafia (in which case you yourself have to be Mafia, and then I won't trust you anyway).

[Almost50]

Let me be more explicit on why I SR Titus: It has to do with Percy replacing out. He knows I tend to tunnel him most of the time. Yet, he used to stay in the games I played with him when he rolled TOWN. He only replaced out as Scum before (in games I played with him). Now he claims he doesn't want to play with me (which may be true) but still I don't think he replaces out as TOWN here. He likely thought I was going to push him anyway, and -if I was a PR- that I'd target him the very first night after I had joined the game.

So, it really doesn't have anything to do with Titus play (although that does support the argument)

[Almost50]

VOTE: Roster

Everyone should post before a hammer, but other than that I'm fine with a short day. We already have 70 pages of material to work with, and anything from roster's buddies will just be wifom now.

I think Titus isn't mafia here.

Are you kidding me? There was an explicit guilty on roster on D2!

[Almost50]

I think you can exclude chen, Titus and me from being mafia

We may be wolf? Maybe, but we're not looking for the wolf today anyway

You lost me. Please explain why you/Titus can't be Mafia!

[Almost50]

because honestly; my best guess for a Mafia duo would be you + Titus

[Almost50]

So Vork was indeed crumbing defector.

Where?

Not quite sure, for I haven't actually read D1,

BUT

I did ISO skygazer and she said Baezu was signalling being traitor to his team, and since sky flipped Town I adopted the idea. I think she even quoted it in her ISO.

[Almost50]

Love the way A50 thinks there are 9 players alive.

Yeah, brain fart. Disregard (but still think it better to eliminate a faction and save us a death)

[Almost50]

Creature, a Vanilla Townie, has been killed.

I neither understand the kill nor the flip.

Well, the flip is obviously me being wring on my read on Creature, but why him (and not now-conf-town Chenn)???

[Almost50]

Geez! Creature was the only one NOT VOTING on D4. He could have easily been pushed as a Mafioso. The killer must have locked themselves into TRing Creature hard they couldn't flip that read around.

[Almost50]

Why do you think both mafia were on the lynch? This post feels more like you wrote it trying to fit me into a mafia box.

Titus, dave was the only living player off the Baezu wagon. If he is town (or wants to pretend to be town) then it's a no brainer both Mafia were on the lynch. The question is whether dave is town indeed or is trying to clear himself using the fact he was not on the wagon.

[Almost50]

What's unexpected here is that they must have thought I was wolf, which is weird but whatever.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, dave. If that's what you think then you must have me as a town lean at the very least. I was pushing Baezu a -specifically- the lone wolf and I made my case linking him to Vortuka (how Vortuka followed his lad after skitter was gone).

I am not trying to use this to clear myself to the rest of the players though. I am just saying you "treating all 5 of us equally" at this point doesn't make sense. Then again it didn't make sense to me that you'd think Chenn would bus his p through a false guilty so early when nobody knew exactly what to expect from the setup.

[Almost50]

I was extremely unhappy with the lack of actual cases yesterday.

Again, ISO my posts from yesterday. I was confident Baezu flips Wolf, and I did make a case (at least from my PoV that was a good case).

[Almost50]

A50 tell me why you can't be partners with Titus or fusco.

Because I FoS'f them both, I guess? I mean, theoretically I could be, so that's all I've got for you for now.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Fusco

this i can do
VOTE: titus

I think I'd hammer either of these two, and no one else.

[Almost50]

At least its confirmed to me that the team isnt ducks/50

this should read 'the team can still be ducks/50, but not titus/ducks

You just want to keep me as a potential lynch in every narration you can, don't you?

[Almost50]

Was I not clear enough? I said I would "hammer" either of you. I want to see where Chenn (the confirmed townie) and DDJ (my strongest TR) want to lynch (or if they don't want to lynch at all).

[Almost50]

I "think" we're all VTs anyway, but here's to confirm it.

I mean, theoretically we could still have a 1-shot Seer or a Stalker, but I think they would have outed by now.

[Almost50]

We also have conftown. While I am ok no lynching, we should just lynch A50 and Fusco.

Ladies first!

[Almost50]

^See? I'm a gentle

man

monley^

[Almost50]

*monKey

[Almost50]

I want to force A50 to vote Fusco.

Let me get this straight: You think I'm scum with Fuscosco AND you want to "force" me to vote him?? Now how're you going to that? And why would I want to vote him anyway?

FTR, voting Fuscosco proves NOTHING. I think it's Fusco+Titus, you think it's Fusco+Me. So? Either way 2 Mafia are involved in the wagon.

So, without you trying to "force" anything:

VOTE: Fuscosco

[Almost50]

And now I'll prove to you that it's precisely Titus+Fuscosco

VOTE: Titus

And if anyone still SRs me, then I can only say this:

[Almost50]

Scum were in no rush to end the day until PP was wagoned. The wagon was undeniably pure until Fusco got on. Then it dies and Chemist is roped.

So, a purely town driven wagon on scum!me died because my scum p voted me??? Is that what you're saying??

[Almost50]

I'll help ya... if you're so determined to lose...

VOTE: A50

Happy??

[Almost50]

Did I say I was town while I was self-voting? I didn't!

[Almost50]

But good luck finding my biddy, pal!

[Almost50]

That's a hammer. Almost50 was lynched. He was

Spoiler:

Vanilla Town

GAME OVER!