Micro 870: Lynch Happy

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ego

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VOTE: Datisi

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VOTE: no lunch

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guess scam and lacher in no lunch Elsa and Datisi

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let's dance urap

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Datisi scummier than Ico

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Ico's intro is NAI, I feel his contributions are more genuine town than faking activity as scam

Daitisi's intro is forced, her second post is bland/passive

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Feeling this Vex!Urap!Ico interaction is TvT from vibe and with other not commenting or starting new topics, probably scam is just floating along watching teh TvT

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VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

I'm feeling personally attacked RN.

feels SvS

You try and balance a Micro with a Third Party in it next time. Spoil sport.

VOTE: Vex

rude language

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Vex's mech talk is NAI

page 5-6 flailing doesn't feel scam

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why not vote no lunch

who else scam

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guess scam and lacher in no lunch Elsa and Datisi

why these two players specifically? why not any of the other players who havent really talked or contributed in the meanwhile?

They're the scumreads at the time. My readlist goes;
{urap, ico, vex} town
{clem, nmsa} null
{datisi} lacher
{elsa, nl} scam

I don't believe my townreads are off, or atleast it shouldn't be as simple as urap!ico scamteam. Clem is being Clem who's not really pinging scam yet. NMSA is completely null.
Datisi's posts feel a bit too artificial/fencesitty/not-actually-trying-to-solve-the-game. Lacher because PoE Elsa!nl scamteam theory.
Elsa!nl is scummy, will explain.

Ico's intro is NAI, I feel his contributions are more genuine town than faking activity as scam

Daitisi's intro is forced, her second post is bland/passive

care to explain why her intro is forced? im not seeing it

By intuition. Could be wrong, but I felt the post pinged a bit weirdly so mentioned it.

Feeling this Vex!Urap!Ico interaction is TvT from vibe and with other not commenting or starting new topics, probably scam is just floating along watching teh TvT

i had the idea that scum was just lingering somewhere and watching. if thats the case, its either tvt or tvl (town v lyncher)

yes

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

I'm feeling personally attacked RN.

feels SvS

how exactly does this feel svs? this just feels more like rvs banter.

Nothing solid. Just that 1) I scumread both players, and 2) "I'm feeling personally attacked RN" feels like responding to a fellow scammer rather than banter.

why not vote no lunch

who else scam

this feels a bit too eager for my liking. and also, ive outlined that i believe ico is scum and that i believe urap is scum, yet you decide on nl who is one of the townier players in this game, imo? whats your logic on that?

Ico!urap is townread. nl is scamread. Perhaps we could look into eachother's perspectives.

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i think you and ico are mafia together. ico got caught, so youre jumping in to defend him.

wrong ico. if you actually read my posts, youd know im scumreading you for solely interacting with me in your iso. you only interacted with others to joke with them.
im scumreading urap for being so eager to jump to your defense, making a complete 180 in their read of me based off of two points in my 7-8 point argument against you, plus other reasons.

ill reply to other things in a moment, just got up and getting food

Here's where I'm at with the urap!ico case, do correct me if I'm wrong.

- Ico is scum for having the vast majority of his posts against Vex
- Ico hasn't responded much to other's posts, or only minimally.

- Urap is scum for changing their reads by roughly 180 degrees after the Vex!Ico engagement
- Urap's push on Vex is based on weak arguments

Not much time in weekends

I stand by my thoughts, Vex opening so hard on mechanical talk and stuff is the IDEAL place where scum can hide. It's completely NAI and no way to sort him on it. He refused to engage in RVS, 'because we need to get out of RVS asap' is something I strongly oppose and is a scummy move.

After that, Vex is scumreading both players who voted on him 'because only scum would vote him' right?

My argument for Ico is that he's not shading or making personal assaults, but rather being confused about why Vex is being townread solely for mech-talk. The only thing I'm worried about is his "Vex is scum and I I'll fight anyone over this read" line in post 109 because it's slightly contradictive to Vex being NAI/null-scam, but I'm sure he'll clarify that in time.

As with Urap, I townread him. I don't believe this is his scumgame. Here's what I think is Urap's case on Vex;

- Intro ping about mech (rvs-serious vote)
- Unvote on post 27
- Disagreement with the idea of hypoclaiming
- Disagreement on talking spec and meta (revote)
- no longer scumreads Vex off of my case? (unvote)

Taking from Vex's post 134 bolded text;

"give me and everyone else your reasoning why you decided to ignore the rest of my argument"

oh, why did i ignore the rest?

It didn't look townie, but I couldn't in good faith make an argument that it was scummy

some things, i believe, are in both the average scum range and the average town range. That's what we call "Not alignment indicative"

"have a complete 180 turn-around on your read of me and call me scummy based on two points."

Feels like it's just Urap's style to jump around a lot. Likewise he voted me because I didn't answer one of his questions (and unvoted once I did), so I don't think this is scum-indicative of him.

"also, id like you to point out exactly what i have said that is "scum who thinks they've been caught for a bad reason"

TvT who's been focusing on eachother too much. As town genuinely have to solve and make activity, town are more likely to appear scummy eariler than scam, I think. Vex, I believe you're also aware of this. The third statement in post 176 I believe.

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Time to scamcase

With Mr.no lunch, the initial impression to him was town. Being the first poster in thread is bold for scum, as unwanted attention would've likely been brought to him, and his latter posts have been

alright

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So why is nl scam? Well, upon a reread of his ISO, it literally only consists of the lovely initial post, and

alright

. I'd love for people to explain their townreads on nl, as I'll explain my scumread on him.

-Intro is NAI, pinged wifom after re-read.

VOTE: Elsa Jay Everybody should sheep Vex on this.

@Vex, I await with bated breath.

^feels feigned. Vote is SvS but in RVS so probably people wouldn't have taken it seriously.

Vex's opening posts are actually all talk about setup and actions, and most of it is wrong. Vex you seem so unwilling to get into a good ol' RVS, why is that?

Vex is town. Please find somewhere else to focus.

^please clarify. This pings scum coasting and trying to gain townpoints without actually solving.

I do not intend to approach this setup with my usual level of curiosity and enthusiasm. Would anybody be interested in explaining why I am being voted?

^

scumslip?

because people scamread.

Thoughts so far? Ico is definitely acting suspicious ngl. Setup discussion makes you slight townlean for me since I think that sharing that info around (in a setup like this that's being played for the first time - correct me if I'm wrong) helps us more than RVS

Thank you for stealing my two reads.
Iconeum is conspicuously not town. Vex is conspicuously town.

^likewise with post 93

Alright, fair enough
UNVOTE: nl
What makes you suspect urap if I may ask?

I do not see a purpose for unvoting me in 172. Why did you do this?

^first post that actually promotes interaction with and benefits town.

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A collection of nl's

alright

posts so far;

Spoiler: much text

VOTE: Vex Vience
Everybody should sheep me on this.

everyone in this thread so far is town btw

UNVOTE:

I am dubious about whether this is town.
Otherwise, generally I agree.

VOTE: urap2 guess who's here and hasn't checked their role pm yet

Do not do this.

@nl i can explain why i find urap townie in a min if you want
@urap elsas 46 also kinda feels townie, but its a bit of stating the obvious + some faulty logic (imo)

Yes, please.

pleasure to see you again, btw

likewise.

It was not passive aggressive and I do not believe I have been aggressive at all. Why are you townreading me for this?

Really? You were actually waiting with bated breath for setup spec?

Yes, I was excited for this setup speculation. Specifically from Vex Vience.

Iconeum, are you mafia or tp?

Did we?
I work in mysterious ways.

tl;dr why nl is scam;
1) null-posts that don't benefit town
2) speaks of scum/townreads without any further explaination
3) SvS interaction with other scamread (will elaborate)
4) PoE

Here's my interpretation of nl's readlist so far, I would love if he'd clarify his reasoning;
{vex, urist} town
{everyone else} not stated
{urap, ico} scam

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Aus plz claim lacher

no lanch still scam

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Are people willing to post their readlists so far? If not complete readlists, just feelings on Elsa and Austerity would be quite appreciated.

Will case more tomorrow.

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Clemency could be the other scum. 9 posts of which 8 are fluff, and 1 vague statement about not scumreading anywhere

I had sincerely forgotten that Clemency was in the game.
VOTE: Clemency

My mistake. I had thought he suggested u r a person 2 sounded genuine. I withdraw my attempt to reach out.

VOTE: Austerity

VOTE: u r a person 2
I am comfortable resuming voting Austerity, as well.

=/

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I want this nl lynch to go through today. Austerity can be saved for D2 sorting; believe he's more likely to be lyncher than scum.

For N1 cop, here are some suggestions;

{urap, ico, vex} are positive town and don't need to be checked N1 (unless you really want to).
{clem, nmsa} can check these two, but results here probably wouldn't be too reliable. Sort them D2.
{Austerity} I think he's the lyncher, of which will come up as Town result. Don't think it's possible for him to be the lynchee, so a Scum result on him would probably not be miller.
{elsa} Scum result.

Don't have a strict person to check N1, only some suggestions, so do whatever you feel is right.

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plz giv readlist nl

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tick tock tick tock

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Btw, this is just kind of Clememcy's style. He's kind of a meme player, especially the early days, as far as I'm concerned, so it'd be better to sort and pressure him later, rather than having him be D1 lanch.

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Btw, this is just kind of Clememcy's style. He's kind of a meme player, especially the early days, as far as I'm concerned, so it'd be better to sort and pressure him later, rather than having him be D1 lanch.

Sure, but have you read Clem ISO? Do you feel like he's 'just' memeing?

I don't see scum!Clem, feeling he's not that different tonally to the last town game I played with him. I'm not calling him a townread beyond personal bias, just that I won't approve of a D1 Clem lynch. We should have time to case him later, and hopefully he'll give more content by then.

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UNVOTE: I have a bad habit of unreasonable tunneling. Will rereview the thread by tomorrow.

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Intent to hammer

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if nl flips town N1 check urap would recommend

will hammer before dudline unless wagon changes

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spectacular