Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

[chennisden]

VOTE: Rich

Sorry, but I've got to kill your slot

[chennisden]

VOTE: Jungle

This is not exactly an RVS vote.

[chennisden]

I didn't realize this is multiball? I guess I should take a look at the setup.

Feels fake

[chennisden]

My townreads for now are Chemist and Dave.

[chennisden]

Chemist is trying to get us out of RVS, thats all I have rn

[chennisden]

Skitter seems like she's tryharding at the game; whether this is proficient town or tryhard scum (which I presume I'd be if I rolled scum this game), I am null on for now.

[chennisden]

Tryharding this early seems town for now. We'll see when there's context

[chennisden]

Chemist is trying to get us out of RVS, thats all I have rn

Nvm I am way less confident on this

[chennisden]

I didn't realize this is multiball? I guess I should take a look at the setup.

Feels fake

Is that your only reason for the vote?

VOTE: Chemist

Hi

It's the only "tangible" reason

the rest is gut

[chennisden]

Persivul I know you powerwolf, but I think this vote is still good.

[chennisden]

PP is a townlean, with what little I have to work with.

[chennisden]

Chenn, what're your reads?

That post from BuJ was really, really bad.

[chennisden]

Persivul is town.

[chennisden]

Intent to hammer.

[chennisden]

I think this will fall scum.

[chennisden]

I think Fusco and chem are both scum.

VOTE: Chemist as this is the better wagon.

[chennisden]

I swear I will not be happy if this dies.

[chennisden]

yeah and yeah

Fusco is indeed scum but we can deal w/ that l8r

yeah i'm kinda getting that vibe too honestly

me three

[chennisden]

The "I know I'm town now" feels weird but Chemist is probably the best place for my vote as of now.

[chennisden]

In hindsight this makes a lot of sense.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Persivul

[chennisden]

Much more confident sheeping Shoshin

[chennisden]

Chenn, why have you been so absent?

School

[chennisden]

^ As for in game reasons it should be apparent by the end

[chennisden]

Like, we just caught scum and youre asking if its a pressure vote?

I think I could mainhunt with this quote but I don't want to, nor do I think it would be appreciated.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Persivul

no can we not dismantle this wagon please

actually you're right; chemist is just scum

VOTE: chemist

we can deal with persivul and fusco tomorrow

[chennisden]

I still think Chemist is scum today, and he's done nothing to change that.

[chennisden]

Claim please.

[chennisden]

UNVOTE:

because i seriously cant trust someone not to lolhammer rn.

[chennisden]

VOTE: rosterfoster

[chennisden]

Read this ISO and you'll agree.

[chennisden]

I'm going to insist on not lynching Chemist today.

Could this be Shoshin/Chemist in the same team?

[chennisden]

Roster/Fusco are way worse than Chemist rn

[chennisden]

idk Shoshin

Who do you wanna lynch?

[chennisden]

I ISOed you for votes but forgot Jungle placed the vote

[chennisden]

also i doubt persivul can get lynched today

[chennisden]

skygaze, ducks, shosin, persi, skitter
chenn

davesaz, creature

baezu, chemist


Ill have time to do a little more. maybe vork?

actually these are some good reads

[chennisden]

You saw the rappin' gone
Falsely put at rest
But I'm gonna have some fun
At my own behest

[chennisden]

like ill compromise on persivul

but roster scum

[chennisden]

I think I'm townreading fusco now.

[chennisden]

Chennis is nullscum unless he has a really good reason why he dropped his chemist scumread in favor of a roster lynch

My reason is roster is more scummy

[chennisden]

Like if we have to compromise on chemist, fine.

[chennisden]

By strongarm I mean trying to sound all assured and strong. IDK what word is best.

I have past experience with town Pers. He;s just spewing his thoughts though - that comes from town.

I wasn't reading the thread too closely so I only really had conviction in my Chenn read.

I like how you've responded in this RT-ish thing though so consider yourself in my townpool.

VOTE: Chennisden

I was gonna start dropping my scumread but nope

[chennisden]

Are we fine with a Chemist lynch if we dont find more scum?

[chennisden]

if we dont find more scum?

Seems unlikely
There’s something like an 80% chance of six scum, 20% chance of four. We should be able to find another scum

well why dont we lynch it

[chennisden]

shoshin, help me derail this wagon quick

[chennisden]

like i know this is multiball

but please NOT today guys.

[chennisden]

^ what he said

[chennisden]

ty, finally

[chennisden]

lets wagon this

[chennisden]

PP can you defend yourself?

[chennisden]

Against getting lynched

[chennisden]

I don't particularly TR Penguin but man that wagon was so opportunistic scum

[chennisden]

Pongwin is scum, let's just do this.

[chennisden]

I also don't like dave's slot but that's for tomorrow.

[chennisden]

If roster or PP is next I'm down for this.
VOTE: chemist

[chennisden]

Anyone scumreading roster is someone I'm townreading.

[chennisden]

If roster or PP is next I'm down for this.
VOTE: chemist

Is it my absence or something else? I ask because you had a townlean on me (at least stated) until the flashwagon started.

And...you're voting with me.

Scum has incentive to scumhunt in multiball, so you could be S voting W.

It's because of your reaction to the wagon

[chennisden]

Scum would either want to keep rosterfoster alive because

1) easy scum (OTHER scum team) lynch for later, away from potentially your own buddies

2) he's their scumbuddy

therefore everyone on this wagon is town.

[chennisden]

The wagon on you, PP.

[chennisden]

I am legit confused at this point.

My reaction to my wagon changed your townlean on me because scum would want to keep roster alive for the two reasons stated so everyone who voted me is town?

No, those are two separate things

[chennisden]

People who voted ROSTER are town

[chennisden]

Let's kill Chemist now please

[chennisden]

Roster can be dealt with tmrw, creature.

[chennisden]

I fucking told you guys.

VOTE: rosterfoster

I am one-shot cop and I got MAFIA!

[chennisden]

VOTE: rooster

shitty scumhammer was shit

Fusco town!

[chennisden]

Let's do this

I had a 1/2 chance of actually GUILTYING scum.

And I got that chance.

[chennisden]

(I would've gotten inno if he was wolf :/)

[chennisden]

Friendly reminder before we lynch this that a werewolf defector can be a 1-shot cop
Not that I'm really scumreading chennis at all anymore, just feel like it's necessary to say setup possibilities because reading the setup is not a thing everyone does

I get guilties on mafia and innos on town/wolf/godfather

[chennisden]

Roster is INDEPENDENTLY SCUMMY.

I have a GUILTY on him.

Can we get more votes on him? Please?

[chennisden]

Elephant you have to believe me. What makes his claim more valid than mine? He’s a role cop for sure.

I'm not scummy as fuck.

[chennisden]

If I fake a guilty I'm scumclaiming. Do you understand that?

[chennisden]

yawn

[chennisden]

guys, we are going to use HURT tags to HURT who we have an interest of lynching tomorrow

[chennisden]

except for roster since he's scum

[chennisden]

We kill Roster first, obviously.

[chennisden]

HURT: Dunnstral

[chennisden]

Hey roster, work with me to find Wolf. Town will lynch them tomorrow if you find any.

Cheers.

[chennisden]

ok but thats not an excuse not to kill roster

[chennisden]

oops i was on the wrong page

[chennisden]

Elephant you have to believe me. What makes his claim more valid than mine? He’s a role cop for sure.

that he claimed first, yes
also

Because I wouldn’t want to give too much setup information to scum.

Like if (in the world where Chenn is town) I suddenly stopped pushing Chenn and crumbed something that would be enough. Why would it help town to out?

feels like you know chenn is town

Friendly reminder before we lynch this that a werewolf defector can be a 1-shot cop
Not that I'm really scumreading chennis at all anymore, just feel like it's necessary to say setup possibilities because reading the setup is not a thing everyone does

I get guilties on mafia and innos on town/wolf/godfather

yes I understand, I'm just saying your claim, even if true, doesn't make it impossible for you to be a werewolf defector

meant to quote this

[chennisden]

who, roster?

[chennisden]

he has claimed.

he claimed that he's the town cop and I rolecopped him and "stole" by fakeclaiming.

[chennisden]

alternatively he has claimed mafia

shrug

[chennisden]

issue with that is that you outed first.

yeah exactly.

[chennisden]

i think we can just kill roster now.

dave next or smth

[chennisden]

meant dunnstral :/

[chennisden]

any other guilties should out lest they get nked.

and we should MC

Friendly reminder before we lynch this that a werewolf defector can be a 1-shot cop

OK chennis- what EXACTLY are you and what is the nature of your guilty on rooster?

im a town one shot cop

i used my shot on rooster

[chennisden]

You can laugh and vote the wolf.

I can’t believe they choose me to fake a guilty on though. I was easy mislynch bait for later.

I mean you can rest easy that if your claim is in any way true chennis will eat tomorrow's lynch

did either of you crumb your roles

i didnt crumb

didnt want to eat NK

[chennisden]

hey vorkuta

if you want to stop italian-claiming

vote roster with me

[chennisden]

If Wolf killed Shoshin then Shoshin might've been on wolf.

[chennisden]

^ reads wise not JK wise

[chennisden]

We lynch either Dunn or Persi today, I think it's very obvious who's more scummy here.

VOTE: Dunn

[chennisden]

Dunn or Relly for me

definitely lynching someone who's playing a clumsy positioning strategic game rather than interacting and playing a social game

why do you think Dunn is obviously more scummy than Persi?

Persi has pushed against a mass claim at least

Dunn has done... pretty much nothing good. I am willing to switch to Persi if needed (which it isn't) but I scumread Dunn more strongly.

Also I kinda agree with you on Irrelephant

He's pinged me a little scummy but I've had better pushes (and still think there is a better push, i.e. Dunn) rn.

[chennisden]

Let's not have the obvtowns be the only one voting Dunn thanks

I want to be able to look at wagon composition

[chennisden]

UNVOTE:

Consider my vote proxy on Dunn.

[chennisden]

I just want to force other people to commit to a vote to figure out who is italian and who is dog

[chennisden]

italian is mafia, dog is werewolf

[chennisden]

vork feels italian

[chennisden]

dunn feels scum

[chennisden]

I actually am not too opposed to killing Vorkuta today

He has straight up been scummy af

[chennisden]

Meh Dunn goes first.

[chennisden]

you refused to lynch roster.

you've advocated for an unnecessary massclaim.

etc

anyway; dunn is a better lynch than you and i hope you agree that dunn is a better lynch than me.

[chennisden]

VOTE: Dunn

As long as he isn't at L-1

[chennisden]

hi titus!!

[chennisden]

All you need to know is Dunn is scum

[chennisden]

Also, this got dropped but I noticed it again in the read through...what kind of guilty did you have chenn, can you explain it again?

town 1 shot cop

i invested him

he came up mafia

[chennisden]

Why did you cop roster again? You already seemed confident he was scum

I doubt that you would've lynched him without a guilty.

Yes, I have reads:

Baezu town
Jab leantown
Persi leanscum
Dunn scum

[chennisden]

Chennisden is town.

[chennisden]

I TR creature rn

[chennisden]

Tryharding this early seems town for now. We'll see when there's context

actually my reads werent good

[chennisden]

vork we are not massclaiming.

dunn claim

[chennisden]

guys i really think titus might be scum

[chennisden]

VOTE: Dunn

Same.

Vork we are hitting scum today. We want cross fire. Mass claim deters cross fire even if it gets us scum tomorrow.

[chennisden]

No dude I was on dunn the whole time.

[chennisden]

dunn apathetic scum

[chennisden]

idc about claim anymore

if dunn wanted to live he'd have claimed

[chennisden]

I don't think so

[chennisden]

He's L-1 rn if I counted right

[chennisden]

Wait Dunn's dead?

this feels rly fake

im pretty sure titus flips same colour as dunn

[chennisden]

ur not town

[chennisden]

hey dunn, CLAIM please

[chennisden]

yay titus

[chennisden]

hi

[chennisden]

dunn can die

[chennisden]

Thank you.

Dunn has been really apathetic today and I don't see how that doesn't come from scum.

[chennisden]

Yeah Dunn might as well have scumclaimed.

[chennisden]

Btw this spews ducky town.

[chennisden]

OK, I don't care anymore

VOTE: Chemist

this is hammer I think

This is kinda identical to roster ngl

[chennisden]

Btw this spews ducky town.

or at least it spews him as not on the same ball as dunn

[chennisden]

im a little mad about dunn and was expecting vork to be full scum.

[chennisden]

btw im conf town now

[chennisden]

VOTE: fusco

[chennisden]

titus you can treat me as green

[chennisden]

hmm

[chennisden]

skim pls

[chennisden]

hmm ok

titus i think youre town even if its controversial

[chennisden]

8 people

[chennisden]

btw beazu's nakedvote on foster is not bad

[chennisden]

we aim for scum at all

[chennisden]

I promised a VC last night but didn'tdo one because I'm being kinda neglectful right now and I apologize.

Aiming for an updated one tonight.

goals

[chennisden]

I think Fuscosco's scum btw

Interesting

We both had good takes on scum once and I think it might be true again

[chennisden]

I can accept baezu today but I rly want fusco dead soon

[chennisden]

i dont read titus scum.

[chennisden]

yeah

but im a tonal player

[chennisden]

our pool is titus beazu

[chennisden]

L-1

VOTE: beazu

[chennisden]

Misstated the evidence. Chenn didn't state a townread on baezu. Second, he never stated he was willing to lynch me. Third, you're implying someone who likely has zero ulterior motives is scummy. Unless you are CCing, you should shut up.

Lastly, my comments about your baezu "read" being a non stop defense of him is separate from chenn entirely.

exactly what i was thinking

my further comments:

1. I pointed out baezu's nakedvote was not AI, not that i TRed them
1.5. reads change
2. titus is in lynchpool because she's been voted, not because i SR her??

[chennisden]

the motivation for 2689 btw is really townie

[chennisden]

beazu dave looks so m/m

[chennisden]

also dave can replace fusco in the list of "people i want dead"

[chennisden]

dave looks like damage control

[chennisden]

i said her NAKEDVOTE was NAI, not her

titus wagon this with me

VOTE: davesaz

[chennisden]

and if you want to wagon me go ahead

good luck getting it to pass though

[chennisden]

VOTE: baezu

[chennisden]

I'm fairly certain beazu flips some shade of red anyways

[chennisden]

You can deal with titus later

[chennisden]

PP not wolf

[chennisden]

aka A50

[chennisden]

^ this

[chennisden]

mm i dont think hammer is bad.

[chennisden]

People still think skitter v percy as scum theater?
It was fake because skitter was scum. I just don't understand these wolf!titus reads.

-BuJ

mm same

[chennisden]

ya

[chennisden]

yay

[chennisden]

ok

[chennisden]

ok

HOW AM I NOT DEAD

[chennisden]

D4?

[chennisden]

I promised a VC last night but didn'tdo one because I'm being kinda neglectful right now and I apologize.

Aiming for an updated one tonight.

goals

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May 18, 2019 | 1:00:00 PM Chicago Time.

Titus – 2/5 –

Baezu,

Fuscosco

Baezu – 3/5 –

DuckDuckJab, Titus, Almost50

Creature – 0/5 –

Fuscosco – 1/5 –

chennisden

davesaz – 0/5 –

DuckDuckJab – 0/5 –

chennisden – 0/5 –

Almost50 – 0/5 –

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No Lynch – 0/5 –

Not Voting:

davesaz,

Creature

Mod Notes:

I did it! =D

[chennisden]

Yayaya I got a pagetop and kept it for the VC without editing powers! What a good night! =D

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Deadline: May 18, 2019 | 1:00:00 PM Chicago Time.

Titus – 3/5 –

Baezu,

Fuscosco, davesaz

Baezu

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DuckDuckJab, Titus, Almost50,

chennisden

[L-1]

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chennisden – 0/5 –

Almost50 – 0/5 –

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Not Voting:

Creature

Mod Notes:

Byee Zeus is V/LA as noted above.

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chennisden,

Fuscosco -

LYNCH!

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chennisden – 0/5 –

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No Lynch – 0/5 –

Not Voting:

Creature

[chennisden]

I will never understand the Creature NK.

[chennisden]

Titus were you drunk N3?

[chennisden]

Or sober?

[chennisden]

More likely drunk. It was a friend's birthday. Why?

This NK feels like it was done drunk

[chennisden]

Dunn was impure as fuck

honestly from that I feel tonally DDJ has scum equity

[chennisden]

lol

[chennisden]

If fusco titus arent both scum then fusco should be the scumfuck

[chennisden]

Once again the pool is A50 fusco titus

dunn and DDJ is never a scum team, DDJ is town, and dunn is townish

[chennisden]

and I do not prefer titus

so idk it might be good to have a50 vote fusco

[chennisden]

A50 - we have enough info to lynch today

[chennisden]

fusco i think is towny

[chennisden]

I want to force someone to vote fusco or titus

[chennisden]

my advice is to treat ddj as conftown btw

[chennisden]

alright guys. we are mass claiming

[chennisden]

one shot cop, guilty on roster

[chennisden]

meant dave

[chennisden]

Alright, I want

Fusco -> A50 -> Titus -> Dave -> DDJ

[chennisden]

a50/fusco

[chennisden]

dave when you get back if you wanna just confirm our towncore

and decide who the scum are

[chennisden]

I want to force A50 to vote Fusco.

[chennisden]

In that case we can confirm some stuff

We only lose if A50 and Fusco are both not scum and I don't think DDJ or Dave is a deepwolf

[chennisden]

fusco wut r u saying rn

[chennisden]

cool there are no deepwolfs

[chennisden]

If Titus is town the team is A50 Fusco

If Fusco is town the team is A50 Titus

Therefore from A50 PoV team is Fusco Titus

[chennisden]

If both are scum then both are scum

[chennisden]

I see no reason Fusco is NOT scum.

For today we should treat {chen dave ddj} as conf town.

[chennisden]

Can I vote Fusco

[chennisden]

actually maybe dave should vote fusco to clear my lingering doubt

[chennisden]

dave vote fusco pls

[chennisden]

fine a 50 first