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[NerfedBuJ]

Look I told you how I feel and who I'm scumreading.

In case I die, bob then nero then eevee should be the last 3 lynches if there are 3 masons and 2 of them are axe and nom.

[nomnomnom]

There's also no cop as stated by the game rules.

[NotAnAxehole]

Town roleblocker is better suited in a game with tracker/cop so that there is negative utility to balance it.

[NerfedBuJ]

Yeah and in a game with halfway decent scum PR hunters the RB gets killed and the mason team is obliterated before they verify each other.

Roleblocker is not the super pro-town role you make it sound.

That's reason number 1 for masons should claim earlier.
Reason numbr 2 is to gain trust of fellow town.

But that's fine you chose option number 3. You want to lynch scum with only your 3 mason votes, so good luck.

[nomnomnom]

Claiming earlier had its downsides. Major downsides.

[NerfedBuJ]

The only point in your favor is that mastina tends to (IMO which is like probably worthless in setups) overestimate the power of scum PRs.

[NotAnAxehole]

Well, if I say there's no roleblocker in the game because of role reasons and no one tries to 1v1 me for it day 2, then there is no roleblocker.

And that's the thing, masons remove the anti-town component of roleblocker... Because mason isn't an active role.

[NerfedBuJ]

Claiming earlier had its downsides. Major downsides.

You blindly followed axe around like you were remote controlled and scum killed neither of you.

You honestly think if axe said "I am mason, therefore I don't believe the roleblocker claim" and then clouded his associatives or even didn't do that much, either of you would have been killed?

Like you think that's what stopped scum? The lack of words being explicitly stated?

[NerfedBuJ]

Put it this way . If you're scum you just win this game now unless we lynch.

So if you're town I'm sorry but this is a terrible time to claim.

[nomnomnom]

What stopped scum is the fact that Axe was this much of a lynchbait that killing any of us was a terrible decision.

[NotAnAxehole]

Put it this way . If you're scum you just win this game now unless we lynch.

So if you're town I'm sorry but this is a terrible time to claim.

Why? I don't see any reason anyone would think we're scum and we've narrowed down the PoE sufficiently that we only lose to scum!skygazer. Like... I don't really see the issue with us claiming now especially with the strong possibility that the wagon could flip on me today.

[NerfedBuJ]

Axe didn't even get close to L-1 and as soon as he claimed nobody wanted his lynch.
That's it. There's no such thing as mislynchable mason. If there are masons in this game they would have been killed.

[nomnomnom]

Axe didn't even get close to L-1 and as soon as he claimed nobody wanted his lynch.
That's it. There's no such thing as mislynchable mason. If there are masons in this game they would have been killed.

And what happened before that? People kept pushing him as a lynch target and as a fraud, and probably scum was very happy to keep someone driving lynches left and right.

That just proves my point. I made my connection clear as a way to show scum that confirming Axe was a really bad idea for them, and they played along.

[NotAnAxehole]

I feel like you're way too flustered about this BuJ You're conf town, we're all on the same team.

[NerfedBuJ]

I am. You made me break Nerfed meta.. this is pure BuJ meta right here taking everything seriously and judging both teams for not playing correctly.

BuJ has impossible standards. He wants everyone including himself to play correctly, to their win condition and have the best team win and have the game be enjoyable. It never happens and a significany portion of the time I'm the cause of my own discomfort so I just stopped playing like that

[NerfedBuJ]

I tried to get you lynched on the merits of my own posting and I failed then I helped you lynch town faster to prove how dangerous you are and it still didn't get you lynched so whatever. I'll count this as a personal loss if you're town and move on to the next game but I refuse to play along with something I don't believe.

[NotAnAxehole]

I tried to get you lynched on the merits of my own posting and I failed then I helped you lynch town faster to prove how dangerous you are and it still didn't get you lynched so whatever. I'll count this as a personal loss if you're town and move on to the next game but I refuse to play along with something I don't believe.

Honestly, the main loss is probably taking a game seriously when it's filled with over 50% lurkers or when it's played on mafiascum. I had no intention of ever taking this game seriously and I'm not disappointed with the result. It looks like we're going to get a win to boot.

[schadd_]

d3 final vote count

RuiRui (6):

Nero Cain, Performer, nomnomnom, Skygazer, NotAnAxehole, rosterfoster

NotAnAxehole (2):

NerfedBuJ, KidAmn

not voting (3):

RuiRui, bob3141, EeveeLution Army

with 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

[schadd_]

RuiRui has been lynched! she was a

vanilla townie!

night 3 starts now and ends in (expired on 2019-05-18 11:15:00). please submit all night actions to me, either by PM or in a private thread where relevant. i will speed up the night if all players tell me they want that

[schadd_]

NerfedBuJ has been killed! he was a

vanilla townie!

[schadd_]

Day 4 Starts!

Vote count 4.0

not voting (9):

KidAmn, NotAnAxehole, rosterfoster, Performer, bob3141, nomnomnom, Nero Cain, Skygazer, EeveeLution Army

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 4 starts now and ends june 1st at 11:35 central US time; in (expired on 2019-06-01 11:35:00)

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[KidAmn]

VOTE: NotAnAxehole

Lynch this now.

[Skygazer]

i think lynching one of the three masons before lylo is the mechanically correct play considering it's auto if they're scum gambitting and if they're town they're way more likely to be mislynched tomorrow if they're all kept alive and we reach lylo tomorrow

[Skygazer]

so it's either exactly

axe/nom/performer

or imo three of

amn/roster/bob/eevee

with nero almost certainly being town here

[Skygazer]

does scum amn just like come in and try to lynch a claimed mason right off the bat? probs not?

VOTE: axe