large normal 219: COOL NEW ANIMALS (done!!)

Wed May 15, 2019 4:31 pm

and my townblock literally has no cohesion aside from axe/nom

Wed May 15, 2019 6:13 pm

didnt say that rui is town, just saying that bob is scummier...

the vagueness is def scummy but also dont see why rui has to be scumreading sick just because he was on the wizard wagon, she said we should lynch on wagon, not that every player on the wizard wagon should be lynched

on the other side of the coin i think that 1788 is a scummy post because i see that kind of weak unexplained TR as a whiteknight i see from scum a lot trying to avoid wagon hopping/looking opportunistic

Wed May 15, 2019 6:16 pm

i compromised on wizard and wanted bob over sick

can we let me have my top choice for once or

Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am

In post 1941, Skygazer wrote:every time i read a post SRing buj/nero/axe/nom i just feel more and more this is going to be a definite town loss

why is it that as soon as i post this the game goes further into shit mode

Thu May 16, 2019 2:13 am

nero is my strongest non clear townread so uh

Thu May 16, 2019 2:16 am

nero literally said he thinks bob is scum? just wont vote him for some reason?

Thu May 16, 2019 2:19 am

In post 2000, rosterfoster wrote:Oh yeah Sky do you think the FL kill gives Bob town points? Because your original vote there was based on FL scumreading him I think?

bob is scummy regardless of FL's read there and i dont think i wanna delve into night kill analysis when there are 3 scum left still, all who could've seen an FL post about them and been like ya i wanna kill FL now

Thu May 16, 2019 2:19 am

In post 2003, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 1956, Nero Cain wrote:I mean Bob being scum isn't impossible. I agree with you that he's been opportunistic and hasn't really been offering original opinions but the guy is new and new players are just gonna seem scummy, idk.

Bob needs to post a full reads list with reasons why when he gets on.
This is not saying Bob is scum. It’s fence-sitty which is scummy.

hmmm. i misread that post

Thu May 16, 2019 2:20 am

feel like nero has been playing to his usual town self tho tbh

Thu May 16, 2019 2:21 am

i cant really see roster's path to victory as scum including the soft defense of bob either regardless of bob's alignment, he'd either want to mislynch townBob or distance from scumBob here

Thu May 16, 2019 2:23 am

maybeeeeeeee?

i need to reread tbh

Thu May 16, 2019 2:34 am

could you imagine if i was scum thatd be hilarioussssss

Thu May 16, 2019 2:41 am

roster's town
nero around the same level

i think we lynch bob/rui/eevee/amn today

Thu May 16, 2019 2:42 am

VOTE: rui

since i guess no one fuckin wants to go for bob rn

Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 am

helping a friend finish her move in stuff so probs wont be around too much for the rest of the day

Sat May 18, 2019 5:39 am

i think lynching one of the three masons before lylo is the mechanically correct play considering it's auto if they're scum gambitting and if they're town they're way more likely to be mislynched tomorrow if they're all kept alive and we reach lylo tomorrow

Sat May 18, 2019 5:55 am

so it's either exactly

axe/nom/performer

or imo three of

amn/roster/bob/eevee

with nero almost certainly being town here

Sat May 18, 2019 5:56 am

does scum amn just like come in and try to lynch a claimed mason right off the bat? probs not?

VOTE: axe

Sat May 18, 2019 6:23 am

UNVOTE:

a single disloyal friendly neighbor doesn't make sense in terms of set-up spec tho

i feel like the more likely scenario is this is friends and enemies with a twist considering i've seen schadd talk about that game in reviews before

Sat May 18, 2019 6:27 am

viewtopic.php?f=123&t=76884

like i played in this game and i happened to stumble upon the review for it today

it wouldn't surprise me at all if schadd was doing the friends and enemies with a twist thing again and i'm the twist

that feels much more likely than mountainous + 1 vaguely useless role

Sat May 18, 2019 8:01 am

tfw there are 3 dead players that have posted more recently than bob

Sat May 18, 2019 8:41 am

In post 2087, NotAnAxehole wrote:Unless there are significant plausible PR claims today lynching claimed masons is absolutely ridiculous

hard agree w this

Sat May 18, 2019 9:32 am

which order did you check them in

Sat May 18, 2019 9:33 am

In post 2092, Skygazer wrote:which order did you check them in

this is very important before we continue the claims

Sat May 18, 2019 9:44 am

where did roster fakeclaim mason??

Sat May 18, 2019 9:45 am

oof ig i just missed eevee

why do i have to be so impatient

Sat May 18, 2019 9:50 am

actually after seeing the crumbs i can safely assume that the order she listed is the order of the checks

i used my thing on nero last night so eevee is confscum for not detecting motion

VOTE: eevee

Sat May 18, 2019 9:53 am

the order she listed matches up with the day opening softs she talked about

Sat May 18, 2019 9:56 am

In post 1341, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 1336, Flavor Leaf wrote:Roster, Nomnom, Eevee, Bob, sickofit

I believe have 2 scum, possibly all 3.

If not all 3, 1 is in Performer/Nero/Rui/Kid, probably the ladder half.

I guess gotta just narrow down now.

What are some reasons to town read any of those players of the 5
im pretty sure nom is town tbh. personally uh i think bob might be the best one of the five lemme check smth

In post 1913, EeveeLution Army wrote:nerfed is probably town

In post 2076, EeveeLution Army wrote:nero is probably town

Sat May 18, 2019 10:10 am

hard disagree with you

axe has led us off of a cliff and at the day before lylo with no flipped masons, lynching a claimed mason would be the 100% correct play without set-up spec point towards the mason claims being true

Sat May 18, 2019 10:13 am

thats fair

Sat May 18, 2019 10:20 am

i do feel like in this case leaving 3 masons alive is def a trap set by scum when everyone wants to lynch one of them

im just saying in other games id def lynch the masons because surviving to day 4 after making it so obvious that u two were masons that ppl were literally calling you masons in-thread on D1 is sus

Sat May 18, 2019 10:20 am

what a run-on sentence wrow

Sat May 18, 2019 10:25 am

thats exactly why i voted axe before realizing that there were no other claimed PRs and that schadd has flirted with the idea of friends and enemies with a twist before

Sat May 18, 2019 10:35 am

axe eevee is confscum

Sat May 18, 2019 10:41 am

eevee claimed motion detector and they claimed they investigated nero last night with no motion but i used my thing on nero last night so their claim is a lie

Sat May 18, 2019 10:51 am

if nero acted or someone acted on nero she wouldve detected motion but she said no motion last night even tho i acted on nero

Sat May 18, 2019 10:52 am

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... n_Detector

Sat May 18, 2019 10:55 am

In post 2137, nomnomnom wrote:you'd rather we verify the guilty then? Fairly sure kidamn is 100% scum but I'm not too hung up on the order here.

id rather lynch a hard guilty then a player that could (very unlikely) flip town

Sat May 18, 2019 1:06 pm

i dont have the energy to throw a hissy fit rn

Sat May 18, 2019 1:30 pm

In post 2158, Nero Cain wrote:Although, the thought occurred to me that since Sky doesn't give me a FN (since I'm town and she's disloyal) Evee wouldn't pick up the motion which would make this a false positive and if you and Nom are really masons then scum is in

KidAmn
rosterfoster
Performer
bob314i

oh shit ur right

UNVOTE:

also thatd mean nero is conf town if eevee isnt lying

Sat May 18, 2019 1:31 pm

performer is a mason tho

Sat May 18, 2019 1:31 pm

which means its like amn/roster/bob/eevee

Sat May 18, 2019 1:33 pm

motion detector is such a fakeable claim tho i feel like and dont see how she arrives at the level of confidence shes arriving with with the softing based on those, esp with three scum left

Sat May 18, 2019 1:33 pm

i could swing over to amn over eevee now tho

VOTE: amn

Sat May 18, 2019 1:34 pm

In post 2164, Skygazer wrote:motion detector is such a fakeable claim tho i feel like and dont see how she arrives at the level of confidence shes arriving with with the softing based on those, esp with three scum left

i feel like i murdered this sentence

Sat May 18, 2019 1:43 pm

In post 2027, rosterfoster wrote:Since I don’t think I should be putting Performer in my POE (it’s extremely obvious btw unless I’m wrong), that is my POE.

In post 2030, NotAnAxehole wrote:@Rosterfoster you're right.

I guess you can hammer and we can close out this PoE one by one.

In post 2146, NotAnAxehole wrote:Confirmed town at 100% certainty (due to the conflicting data from Skygazer and eevee - this is either SvS or TvS - probably the latter)

NotAnAxehole
Nomnomnom
Performer

50/50:
Skygazer
Eevee

50/50
Nero Cain
Bob
Kidamn
RosterFoster

i mean its fairly obvious by now

Sat May 18, 2019 1:47 pm

In post 571, Performer wrote:agreed. that claim complicates things but I won't get into it at this point, because it might help scum.

I want to see sky's catchup tonight as well as FL's (I have not been townreading his predecessor).

i had a mason read on perf since this post actually since axe/nom were super obvious masons or setting up a mason fakeclaim and it just became more and more obvious over time but decided to do some distancing yesterday by putting perf in my PoE so he wouldn't eat a night kill as mason

but then roster kinda spelled everything out for everyone after that

masons not dying yet makes me feel like scum isn't putting in any effort/paying attention because it's been **really** obvious to me

Sat May 18, 2019 1:54 pm

you think scum me kills three players townreading me over 3 obv masons?

Sat May 18, 2019 1:57 pm

In post 2173, nomnomnom wrote:That or scum is perfectly aware of the situation. It can go both ways, honestly.

i missed the is in this sentence, i thought "that or scum perfectly aware..." was implying i was scum

Sun May 19, 2019 1:43 am

eevee you need to motion track me

if you detect motion i'll have a guilty, if you dont detect motion i'll have a clear

Sun May 19, 2019 2:30 am

im hoping youre lolcatting there

everybody should tell schadd to do fast night because i wanna get the last two scum and/or lose this game as fast as possible

Sun May 19, 2019 2:37 am

...oof

Sun May 19, 2019 4:31 am

im checking between the non masons, including nero again, including you. if ur scum i dont think i should claim my target here, if theres a roleblocker i dont think we have any clears but i just want a solid guilty at this point

if the masons are real they absolutely need to be killed because otherwise its pretty close to auto and it is auto if ur town i think, so i dont think i'll be NK'd??

Sun May 19, 2019 4:38 am

alright; ill check roster

Sun May 19, 2019 4:47 am

i think eevee is town here because disloyal friendly neighbor + motion detector has some amazing synergy

also im thinking that amn is probably just lolcatting

Sun May 19, 2019 7:19 pm

hi eevee

result?

Sun May 19, 2019 7:24 pm

this is post 2222

Mon May 20, 2019 4:57 am

okay so:

eevee is confscum from my pov because:

we've "cleared" nero and roster, leaving just me, her, and bob as possible scum candidates. I know I'm not scum which means one of nero/roster has to be scum which means eevee is lying about her role

Mon May 20, 2019 4:58 am

i did send to roster as planned

i know its lylo but eevee is confscum to me so:

VOTE: eevee

Mon May 20, 2019 5:05 am

my innos came from eevee's result so you two could be scum with eevee as well

Mon May 20, 2019 5:07 am

as in: if eevee is scum you two aren't mechanically clear anymore even tho one of you is probs town

fmpov one of you has to be scum tho

Mon May 20, 2019 5:08 am

dont buy what?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:09 am

because eevee is conf scum to me; bob is not

Mon May 20, 2019 5:09 am

(bob is almost definitely scum tho but)

Mon May 20, 2019 5:10 am

In post 2247, EeveeLution Army wrote:Isnt bob technically the best lynch and you target me tonight?

w h a t

Mon May 20, 2019 5:11 am

have you um read my iso nero??

Mon May 20, 2019 5:11 am

In post 2251, EeveeLution Army wrote:I dont get how you can say what AFTER you said bob was probably scum lol

because ur confscum to me and checking you would do absolutely nothing

Mon May 20, 2019 5:13 am

roster weigh in please i need to sort you and nero

Mon May 20, 2019 5:13 am

In post 2255, EeveeLution Army wrote:Legit even if i was scum how does that mess w/ YOUR results?

i dont get results...

Mon May 20, 2019 5:15 am

theres no way to verify that ur town or scum through my checks, ive been relying on ur results, considering we cleared roster/nero you have to be lying because the PoE is too small for me rn

Mon May 20, 2019 5:16 am

nero im fucking townreading you

if you lose this game for me i swear to god

in what world is my read on bob "light,

Mon May 20, 2019 5:17 am

how does that role make sense at all

"yeah i recruit scum so i can talk to scum"

Mon May 20, 2019 5:18 am

this is so tilting rn

Mon May 20, 2019 5:18 am

eevee is trying to straight up pocket me when shes confscum to me

Mon May 20, 2019 5:19 am

*i* didnr have innos, eevee gave me the innos with her "results"

Mon May 20, 2019 5:22 am

you said "light" bussing but bob has been my strongest SR since D2 but everyone else basically had bob off the table

Mon May 20, 2019 5:24 am

In post 2274, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2272, Skygazer wrote:*i* didnr have innos, eevee gave me the innos with her "results"
Thats incorrect technically. Only last nights would be. Since you could have been rbed the night before

so what ur saying is i could've been roleblocked, making nero confscum and roster conftown? i think i get it now but...

Mon May 20, 2019 5:24 am

UNVOTE:

Mon May 20, 2019 5:25 am

eevee isnt confscum to me technically, unvoting in case shes town

Mon May 20, 2019 5:28 am

bob is almost definitely scum

Mon May 20, 2019 5:29 am

In post 2282, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2278, Skygazer wrote:
In post 2274, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2272, Skygazer wrote:*i* didnr have innos, eevee gave me the innos with her "results"
Thats incorrect technically. Only last nights would be. Since you could have been rbed the night before
so what ur saying is i could've been roleblocked, making nero confscum and roster conftown? i think i get it now but...

I mean we did say our plan. Scum could have killed me or someone else. And not used rber on you to hide

not killing the masons would've spelled suicide for scum

i also think if there is a roleblocker it'd be x-shot because otherwise it'd be prettyyy unbalanced

Mon May 20, 2019 5:31 am

eevee's role definitely would make my role more useful and i don't think scum would gain much at all from having a motion detector against me since they'd literally know when i visited them

Mon May 20, 2019 5:32 am

but considering i have to find the one town in [nero/eevee/roster/bob] and i've been TRing nero and roster for most of this game im aaaaadnfs right now

Mon May 20, 2019 5:34 am

In post 2291, Nero Cain wrote:also, I really like even #'s and a roster/bob scum team gives us a nice even 8 vts.

um

Mon May 20, 2019 5:36 am

god nero i think you might be scum here

Mon May 20, 2019 5:38 am

why are even numbers better than odd numbers in terms of the number of VTs tho

Mon May 20, 2019 5:38 am

In post 2295, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2289, rosterfoster wrote:I mean she might not have it - it’s just like a nice clue from the mod to claim it.

Also Eevee why weren’t you on Sky all nights?

When did sky claim?

i full claimed on D2

Mon May 20, 2019 5:39 am

i feel like roster could be trying to pocket me

Mon May 20, 2019 5:39 am

pagetop

Mon May 20, 2019 5:41 am

In post 2301, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2293, Skygazer wrote:god nero i think you might be scum here
What did me pointing out that a roster/bob scum team (and that there'd be 8 vts if I'm right) make you think I was scum?

i mean there's 3/4 of a chance ur scum anyways

but it sounded like u were trying to justify roster/bob because 8 VTs makes more sense which is ???

Mon May 20, 2019 5:43 am

um no?

Mon May 20, 2019 5:45 am

like nero is my strongest TR but I need to do some heavy reread because the way he's approaching lylo here is ??? and he has a 3/4 chance of being scum

right now i'm tied for eevee/nero as last town

Mon May 20, 2019 5:47 am

In post 2309, rosterfoster wrote:Eevee town for you is literally ONLY if scum have a RB.

I know I’m biased here but how likely do you really think that is?

oof thats true

Mon May 20, 2019 5:47 am

In post 2310, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2307, Skygazer wrote:because the way he's approaching lylo here is ???
What do you dislike about it?

you scumreading me

Mon May 20, 2019 5:48 am

In post 2310, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2307, Skygazer wrote:because the way he's approaching lylo here is ???
What do you dislike about it?

your tone feels off to me

your tone always feels off to me tho

but some of the arguments ur making r just ???

Mon May 20, 2019 5:49 am

eevee just fuckin disappeared after i unvoted her huh

Mon May 20, 2019 5:49 am

In post 2316, nomnomnom wrote:Weren't you tring Nero two minutes ago?

a lot is going on

Mon May 20, 2019 5:51 am

nero is more likely to be town than eevee considering eevee being town relies on the existence of a role blocker

that reminds me of like the dead thread for the last schadd game where he said the more unlikely claims are probs gonna be scum

Mon May 20, 2019 5:53 am

schadd 2027 wrote:in practice something like multitasking roleblocker is just uncommon and from a probabalistic standpoint sky can only be town when that is the case - i think brian didn't play unlike a roleblocker here but he would have made more effort to point out this probability if he were such

granted the chances of there being a RB is higher than a multitasking RBer but eevee being town relies on the existence of a roleblocker so um

Mon May 20, 2019 5:53 am

roster pushing eevee over nero makes me wonder tho

Mon May 20, 2019 5:55 am

In post 2326, Nero Cain wrote:I also stated that you look like a Bob partner for lying that I was against voting Bob to try to make me look like a Bob buddy.

i wouldnt say i lied, just that i had misremembered how things were

the chances of me straight up lying as scum about shit like that is extremely low because i know it's an easy way to get called out for a misrep

Mon May 20, 2019 5:58 am

wait so even if roster is "clear," eevee still has to be scum in any scenario?

VOTE: eevee

im thinking eevee/roster/bob

Mon May 20, 2019 6:00 am

In post 2341, EeveeLution Army wrote:Sky relist all targets

nerfed/roster/nero/roster

Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 am

In post 2344, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2339, Skygazer wrote:wait so even if roster is "clear," eevee still has to be scum in any scenario?

VOTE: eevee

im thinking eevee/roster/bob
So roster is both clear and scum ggf
rosterfoster wrote:I mean I know one (or somehow both) of you/Eevee are scum.

FYPOV I think it depends on whether there’s a scum RB.

nah if ur scum then roster isn't clear anyways

ur clears just can't be true if ur town

Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 am

also why would eevee ever target a cleared player on night 2???

Mon May 20, 2019 6:02 am

In post 2349, EeveeLution Army wrote:Hmm. Wait. Than sky is. Ugg now im confused. Cause that makes nero roster and sky confirmed....

Meaning only me and bob could possibly be scum even with a roleblocjer

even eevee is realizing her claim doesnt make sense now :p

Mon May 20, 2019 6:02 am

In post 2351, EeveeLution Army wrote:Nerfed wasnt clear....?

i cleared nerfed on D2

Mon May 20, 2019 6:03 am

In post 2355, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2347, rosterfoster wrote:Well no both Nero and Bob are scum so there’s still 8VT’s.

But the hardest lynch is Sky/Eeve so that is why why need the masons to look at this from an unbiased perspective.
lol roster wanting to lynch in a 50/50 instead of the 100% is scummy as fuck.

roster is almost definitely scum here

but eevee is conf scum to me

Mon May 20, 2019 6:04 am

In post 2357, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2354, Skygazer wrote:
In post 2351, EeveeLution Army wrote:Nerfed wasnt clear....?
i cleared nerfed on D2
How did you clear nerf? Ypu just said you cant clear people

nerfed said that he didn't receive my friendly neighbor before i had even claimed disloyal

Mon May 20, 2019 6:05 am

whats that one detail?

Mon May 20, 2019 6:05 am

In post 2363, EeveeLution Army wrote:Its weird cause...sky has to be town for the setup to make sense. But if hes town the only scum could be Bob from my pov

eevee confscumming herself to everyone now

Mon May 20, 2019 6:06 am

if eevee isn't lying then you'd actually be clear which isn't possible so

Mon May 20, 2019 6:07 am

eevee is conf scum neroooooo jesus

Mon May 20, 2019 6:08 am

roster is hoping he can survive on bussing eevee probs

Mon May 20, 2019 6:09 am

nom what are you thinking about me/eevee rn

Mon May 20, 2019 6:11 am

axe/nom leading this lynch bodes super well

Mon May 20, 2019 6:12 am

eevee's claim doesn't make any sense without my claim being true

Mon May 20, 2019 6:13 am

it's just roster/bob/eevee and roster/eevee have been trying to pocket me/draw associations to me this whole fucking lylo

Mon May 20, 2019 6:13 am

nero if you can't see that roster is trying to tie me to scum him then what the fuck

Mon May 20, 2019 6:15 am

In post 2391, EeveeLution Army wrote:I proudly will die for town if it confirms sky as scum. Which means its either sky/nero/roster or sky/roster/bob.

THIS ATE

Mon May 20, 2019 6:15 am

In post 2396, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2390, Skygazer wrote:it's just roster/bob/eevee and roster/eevee have been trying to pocket me/draw associations to me this whole fucking lylo

Than why didnt you kill bob with us?

BECAUSE YOURE CONFSCUM

Mon May 20, 2019 6:16 am

In post 2401, rosterfoster wrote:SHE GOT A RESULT D2 WITHOUT YOUR RESULTS

ROSTER STOP TRYING TO TIE ME TO YOU

Mon May 20, 2019 6:18 am

the 1v1 should be decided here and now

everything after that is just lynching obvscum bob/roster for the easy win

Mon May 20, 2019 6:18 am

In post 2406, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2402, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 2399, nomnomnom wrote:You guys need to unvote right now.

Forcing Sky/Eevee today is a townloss.
You really think they’re both town?
Forcing a 50/50 today is incredibly dangerous. It doesn't matter if the masons die, it's just a matter of pushing higher scum chances and see who does what. Then the conftown will have an easier decision by the last day. This is what I believe in.

most of the conftown will be dead by the time it comes to that

Mon May 20, 2019 6:19 am

roster if fucking w me at this point

Mon May 20, 2019 6:20 am

bob is online, if we were both town there'd have been a quickhammer

Mon May 20, 2019 6:21 am

look at "who is online" on the home page

Mon May 20, 2019 6:22 am

In post 2418, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2392, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2389, Skygazer wrote:
eevee's claim doesn't make any sense without my claim being true
Your claim is unverifiable which is the problem to make our minds up in this situation.
You're not going to solve mechanically. One of you is a town PR and one of you is a scum PR.
What if evee just is a weak town invest and sky is just a goon?

Mon May 20, 2019 6:22 am

this game sucks

Mon May 20, 2019 6:24 am

if we go somewhere else today scum will kill either you or axe and you won't even get to make up your mind

Mon May 20, 2019 6:24 am

im so fucking tilted rn

Mon May 20, 2019 6:26 am

UNVOTE:

whatever

Mon May 20, 2019 6:27 am

im done

this is a town loss

sorry i've been so toxic

Mon May 20, 2019 7:07 am

In post 2444, Nero Cain wrote:setup spec wise part of me feels like giving town a weak invest makes more sense than sky's role.

I'm a weak invest role too for the record...

that crumbing feels vaguely town as well.

I did that same sort of crumbing in schadd's 2027 as scum just to set myself up towards endgame without even knowing which role I was planning on claiming. She didn't crumb any sort of role stuff, just results, and her check on buj is ??? because I had already cleared buj.

Also, I think that Roster and Sky going against her hard kinda points to her being town and the game-ending mislynch scum were hoping for. Of course, you could also argue that its a bus but why bus in this situation?

eevee is confscum to me, why wouldn't I be going hard at eevee? Do you see me as the kind of scum player that would just draw blatant associatives between me and a partner? I love bussing, I would never treat roster like I've been treating him this game if we were partners, and by the time I had realized he was trying to set up associatives between me and him it was already too late because I had been tilted and hyperfocused on conf-scum eevee. roster would totally bus eevee in this situation. in lylo, reads don't really matter much to scum, as long as they can manage to push a mislynch at some point. if I was scum with roster and bob i'd bus them like there's no tomorrow for the towncred and hope someone would mess up with an incorrect vote somewhere along the lines rather than go full-tilt like i did

In post 2445, nomnomnom wrote:That's what I'm leading towards right now. There is no interaction between Bob and Roster throughout this game. None. That makes me think they must be scum.

Sky basically screaming at roster for "associating with her" also feels odd, since I didn't see any obvious pocketing.

agree with the roster/bob interactions. Roster is basically trying to force a mindmeld with me at this point, agreeing with everything I say, pushing who I've been pushing, etc, to draw associatives between me and him and imo possibly to try and get me to keep my previous townread on him. I don't think he's been treating me like a partner at all, just trying to make fake associatives between me and him while trying to suck up to me by agreeing with me. A partner wouldn't feel the need to suck up to me at all, and would try to do whatever they can to distance from me rather than whatever it is roster is doing here.

Mon May 20, 2019 7:30 am

go read my play in like literally any of my scum games

if there's anything I'm good at as scum it's making sure there are no associations between me and my partners

Mon May 20, 2019 7:41 am

In post 2454, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2452, Skygazer wrote:

go read my play in like literally any of my scum games

if there's anything I'm good at as scum it's making sure there are no associations between me and my partners
This game is already plenty to read, thank you very much lol
If that's the case I could see scum!skygazer being outraged at being associated with a partner publicly. There are a few more odd interactions between you two this game, but this one strikes me as particularly out there on revision.

the fact of the matter is that in almost all of my completed scumgames i've seen people say "skyg probably isn't scum with [partner]" because I hyper-focus on my partner associations to make myself/my partners look as good as possible. i've had plenty of towngames where scum purposely drew associations with me to get me mislynched, and i feel like that's exactly what's been happening here. you not being willing to do any sort of research on that is p stupid considering just a quick glance would confirm that...

Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 am

In post 2460, nomnomnom wrote:Oh don't worry, I made plenty of research.

I'm actually surprised no one brought this fact yet, that would probably pit you as the scum between you and eevee. So that means that scum probably knows you've made a risky play and that the townies haven't realized it yet.

huh?

Mon May 20, 2019 7:47 am

nom

you can even see i had you and axe pegged as masons from D1

in which world do I kill Krazy (who was townreading me) and FL (who was townreading me) over two obv masons

Mon May 20, 2019 7:47 am

this game is oof

Mon May 20, 2019 7:54 am

i don't not kill PRs just because they're lynchbait, especially something as confirmable as masons

see: me killing scummy A50 in pine because i thought he was a PR

if i had sniffed you out as masons as scum i would've either killed yall or done a better job at buddying yall rather than get paranoid about you or try to protect performer from the night kill by listing him in my PoE

Mon May 20, 2019 7:56 am

can you quote what you're mentioning

Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 am

you and axe SR'd me from D1

like why would i ever not kill you lol

Mon May 20, 2019 8:03 am

In post 2472, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 299, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 297, Skygazer wrote:
In post 294, nomnomnom wrote:Axe is town btw
is this like a "i would never lynch there" level of town?
We're never lynching axe today.

In post 300, Skygazer wrote:UNVOTE:

i think i get it
That's what I'm referring to. Keep in mind that Nero literally said earlier that we were masons.

where did nero say that? i cant remember

Mon May 20, 2019 8:32 am

using my role in conjunction with what i thought was a town MD just makes mechanical sense

can see how it looks nefarious tho

Mon May 20, 2019 8:42 am

so are we voting between me/eevee or

Mon May 20, 2019 8:42 am

should i put my vote back down?

Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 am

fair enough

Mon May 20, 2019 8:48 am

schadd always has those four rules blacklisted iirc

at least in the last schadd game i played

Mon May 20, 2019 8:50 am

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Mon May 20, 2019 8:54 am

Mon May 20, 2019 8:56 am

this game peaked with that post

it was all downhill from there

Mon May 20, 2019 9:00 am

i feel like eevee would be more panicked as town here

and she's only been addressing me this whole time, not roster iirc even with roster sring her and even voting her

i feel like this was a planned bus with the hopes that at least one town would vote me to lead to a qh

Mon May 20, 2019 9:02 am

nvm i misremembered, she did talk to roster a little

Mon May 20, 2019 9:07 am

nero feels like another potential mislynch their team was trying to go for

unless im wrong on nero but i really doubt i am

Mon May 20, 2019 9:09 am

wagon had me as town
FL had me as town
buj literally said that he'd defend me as long as he lives

i feel like the people who are able to read me were killed off to set up my mislynch

Mon May 20, 2019 9:14 am

meh

VOTE: eevee

Mon May 20, 2019 9:19 am

that bird is gazing at something... possibly the sky?

i think it must be a mod hint that im town

Mon May 20, 2019 10:36 am

eevee wasnt confscum to me until amn flipped and perf flipped

Mon May 20, 2019 10:42 am

it still couldve been roster/nero/bob if there was a RBer messing w the nero thing from yesterday so

Mon May 20, 2019 10:45 am

but her alignment was in no way confirmed to me yesterday so am not sure where ur getting that from?

and i didnt even realize that eevee would be conf scum after her nero clear today until someone pointed it out

Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am

thats kind of unfair to me to assume that my logic will be sound correct 100% of the time as town

in this game i also incorrectly confscummed eevee because she would've seen me with her motion detect; in other games ive pushed incorrect conclusions as town but as scum my logic is generally better thought out before i make pushes because ppl like to push me for misreps

Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am

and remember that eevee's claim came at a time where people were basically asking for more PRs to come forward to discredit masons

Mon May 20, 2019 11:00 am

and its responsible of u to consider ur options i guess

i just dont want to lose this by being mislynched

Mon May 20, 2019 12:45 pm

im here, was just workin on some stuff, lemme catch up

Mon May 20, 2019 12:47 pm

In post 2532, EeveeLution Army wrote:panicking as town is unprofessional. since there are more town than scum. panicking as scum makes more sense since you dying is much worse than a town dying

i disagree in lylo with the scum team intact, i feel like this point ur odds feel good enough that u wouldn't get too worked up about being mislynched esp when you consider town you being mislynched loses the game

Mon May 20, 2019 12:49 pm

In post 2534, EeveeLution Army wrote:wait...your reasoning is bad. since why would i kill perf as scum if it benefits you more than me. idk i know this is wifom as fuck but if i was scum we won by just going with ur claim and 'confirming' your target as scum or even killing you and using who you said you targetted?

performer was a confirmed mason, of course he'd be killed, and it's scummy af that ur openly pushing wifom about the night kill. what do i gain for killing FL/Krazy when you were in both of their scum pools iirc?

Mon May 20, 2019 12:50 pm

In post 2544, EeveeLution Army wrote:okay 1] you skipped over the fact i hard townread ax

what does that have anything to do with anything? it feels like ur just throwing a random NAI fact out to score some towncred?

Mon May 20, 2019 12:52 pm

In post 2551, EeveeLution Army wrote:imma wifom again and say none of these nks make sense to me tbh.

hell axe should have been nked n1. it was obvious he was some sort of pr. and even if scum wasnted him as a lynchbait , if his role was strong enough it was riskier keeping him alive.
and neither does the nerfed kill over getting sky out of the way.

i was effectively useless and not cleared until ur claim, buj was conftown. again this wifom pushing is ick

Mon May 20, 2019 12:54 pm

In post 2554, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2552, nomnomnom wrote:Sky's role, if true, doesn't represent any risk to scum the moment she reveals herself, which is what happened.
this brings up a question why did she claim disloyal so quickly? to psuedoconfirm one town?

considering roster of all people had picked up on my claim why wouldn't i just straight up claim at that point

esp considering buj was still doing scummy shit lol

Mon May 20, 2019 12:54 pm

In post 2593, EeveeLution Army wrote:i dont like killing people who scumread me immediately. besides why wouuldnt i kill the powerrole claim in you sky.

because ur trying to mislynch me today

Mon May 20, 2019 12:55 pm

In post 2562, EeveeLution Army wrote:i can sense town probably loses this game. but im not dying before sky.

this is scum hoping to not have another player cleared upon her lynch

Mon May 20, 2019 12:56 pm

i dont think theres any world where scum-me ends up getting run-up on D1 or claims friendly neighbor on D1 of all claims

i know how to dissipate wagons as scum, yet im somehow rlly bad at it as town

Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 pm

i wasnt powerful at all lol i can only get one clear

Mon May 20, 2019 1:02 pm

In post 2089, NotAnAxehole wrote:So, the correct play here is PRs all claim, we lynch the least likely claim. If they flip PR, you know exactly who scum team is at LyLo... They won't though because Masons are the power here.

In post 2090, EeveeLution Army wrote:I mean okay. Im motion detector, ive been softing my actions.

do you not notice how suspicious this claim timing is

i feel like its trying to shift the focus back over to the masons but with eevee not having the courage to openly push things back over to the masons

Mon May 20, 2019 1:06 pm

In post 2603, nomnomnom wrote:Also this is a bit awkward to come back to this but

@Sky you said in 2325 that her being town relies on there being a scum roleblocker. But that can't be possible. She either would have had a positive if you were blocked, or she would have had a "no result" pm if she was blocked. So that means that from her perspective none of you can have been roleblocked.

yeah, i think someone else pointed out something similar too? which is how i reached the conclusion that she was confscum for sure

also roster/bob/nero were all online when i voted iirc and there was no quickhammer

Mon May 20, 2019 1:09 pm

In post 2605, nomnomnom wrote:Honestly... deep inside, I want to believe both of you are scum and you're just fucking around. That'd be funnier than whatever this is lmao

again sorry if im being toxic or anxiety inducing

my anxiety has been acting up a ton w this game and im actively trying not to take it out on anyone after blowing up at the start of day

Mon May 20, 2019 1:11 pm

In post 2608, nomnomnom wrote:Okay let's be real, if Eevee really is scum, why would she claim MD? Like, 3 masons 1FN, that doesn't make sense to have a scum MD. At all. So why would scum claim MD? I'm trying to find a decent reason here.

to pocket me with a claim that makes sense with my role? and just because she claimed MD doesnt mean that she has to be a scum MD
to try to allow for a push back against the masons? a lot of people were saying the masons were confirmed unless there were any more PRs right before she claimed a PR

Mon May 20, 2019 1:15 pm

its a decent fakeclaim when you consider my role

but her actions just dont make any sense which makes me think the actions weren't discussed in the scum thread even tho the fakeclaim was

pedit: you can pocket someone while also leaving them open to be lynched in lylo...

Mon May 20, 2019 1:16 pm

In post 2612, nomnomnom wrote:Okay so you think she claimed MD just to get masons lynched, is that correct?

its a possibility? and i think if roster/bob were active when the claim happened then that push would've happened but it didnt

its also just a decent fakeclaim to make and not hard to disprove

Mon May 20, 2019 1:17 pm

the fact that she was calling people "probably town" in her crumbs makes me think that her fakeclaim was initially going to be stronger

Mon May 20, 2019 1:17 pm

*a stronger PR

Mon May 20, 2019 1:18 pm

In post 2616, EeveeLution Army wrote:then i go and kill a mason confirming the mason. your wifom doesnt work here lol

mislynching a mason is still pretty detrimental to town??? not really seeing ur point, how is two dead masons worse for scum than 3 living masons lol

Mon May 20, 2019 1:19 pm

im not scum with eevee either btw because im not scum at all

Mon May 20, 2019 1:20 pm

and like, other than performer who was killed because he was a mason, look at all of the dead townies that were townreading me

scum systematically killed off the people townreading me so i'd be set up to be mislynched at some point

Mon May 20, 2019 1:23 pm

regardless of my alignment eevee is obvscum here

Mon May 20, 2019 1:24 pm

ill be really frustrated if town loses because i was lynched over obvscum

Mon May 20, 2019 1:26 pm

im stressed too

i probably should stop getting so invested in games

Mon May 20, 2019 1:38 pm

her actions make no sense, her crumbs of "probably town" dont make sense with a role as weak as hers, her claim came at a convenient time, shes openly pushing wifom to get me lynched over her, shes been pretty lurky all game, etc etc

Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm

nero why are you so hellbent on me being scum

Mon May 20, 2019 2:22 pm

nero

eevee is confscum to me

why wouldnt i vote eevee

i even unvoted when nom asked me too but me voting confscum is a no brainer

oof

Mon May 20, 2019 2:38 pm

In post 2646, Nero Cain wrote:but if Bob and Roster were scum and Evee is the only mislynchable townie would you not claim that to vote only her?

Who is scum with Evee and why?

probs bob and roster

i mean i didn't force the 1v1, eevee mechanically confirming herself as scum to me forced the 1v1 lol

Mon May 20, 2019 2:41 pm

maybe not bad enough to confscum urself to everyone but you def confscummed urself to me

Mon May 20, 2019 3:14 pm

heres my plan: we lynch eevee then bob then roster

Mon May 20, 2019 3:33 pm

can i vote eevee twice

Mon May 20, 2019 3:42 pm

i think nero is probably a psychologist, roster a traitor, and bob is a ninja

im a cop btw

Mon May 20, 2019 3:43 pm

nero is the towniest out of the three

Mon May 20, 2019 3:45 pm

or town trying to not lose the game because if nero is town he isnt reading me correctly

Mon May 20, 2019 3:49 pm

how am i putting all my eggs into nero town?

roster doesnt need to be convinced im town seeing his vote so im not bothering with him at the moment if hes town

bob is conf scum with you because if he's town i'd have been quickhammered by now so i dont need to convince him

Mon May 20, 2019 3:50 pm

In post 2701, nomnomnom wrote:@Sky if I told you we're lynching bob today would you do it

yes because bob is confscum considering the lack of hammers on me