large normal 219: COOL NEW ANIMALS (done!!)

schadd_ · Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:11 am

i accidentally edited this vc to 5.2 and i dont feel like redoing it

nomnomnom · Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:25 am

1216 followed by 1218 is a good argument for a Sky/Roster pair.

ISO · Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:30 am

go read my play in like literally any of my scum games

if there's anything I'm good at as scum it's making sure there are no associations between me and my partners

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:34 am

In post 2447, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1035, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 1032, TheWizard wrote:Most likely, Axe is scum and there's a scum roleblocker. He likely inferred (incorrectly) that there wouldn't be a town roleblocker. Since (in his view) I was a fake claiming townie, I would be an easy lynch.

That is why he doesn't believe my claim, and why he is pushing me.
the existence of a scum roleblocker wouldnt affect the chances of a town roleblocker existing tbh. it would be an incorrect assumption anyway. the way he sounded makes me think hes smth else. i have a theory but im unsure if its a correct one. either way 1 for 1 is fine for town if it comes to it.
Mind explaining why a motion detector wouldn't check Axe in these conditions night 1? You checked me instead.

Im bad and thought he was like an oracle or smth similar.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:34 am

In post 2452, Skygazer wrote:

go read my play in like literally any of my scum games

if there's anything I'm good at as scum it's making sure there are no associations between me and my partners

This game is already plenty to read, thank you very much lol
If that's the case I could see scum!skygazer being outraged at being associated with a partner publicly. There are a few more odd interactions between you two this game, but this one strikes me as particularly out there on revision.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:35 am

In post 2453, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2447, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1035, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 1032, TheWizard wrote:Most likely, Axe is scum and there's a scum roleblocker. He likely inferred (incorrectly) that there wouldn't be a town roleblocker. Since (in his view) I was a fake claiming townie, I would be an easy lynch.

That is why he doesn't believe my claim, and why he is pushing me.
the existence of a scum roleblocker wouldnt affect the chances of a town roleblocker existing tbh. it would be an incorrect assumption anyway. the way he sounded makes me think hes smth else. i have a theory but im unsure if its a correct one. either way 1 for 1 is fine for town if it comes to it.
Mind explaining why a motion detector wouldn't check Axe in these conditions night 1? You checked me instead.
Im bad and thought he was like an oracle or smth similar.

An oracle. In a normal game. On day 1.
Alright.

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:38 am

I mean, i didnt think axe was scum anyway. If you look i hardtownread him late day 1 and early day 2. What i thought he was was irrelevent since to me he was town

nomnomnom · Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:40 am

In post 2456, EeveeLution Army wrote:I mean, i didnt think axe was scum anyway. If you look i hardtownread him late day 1 and early day 2. What i thought he was was irrelevent since to me he was town

So why did you check me again?

ISO · Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:41 am

In post 2454, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2452, Skygazer wrote:

go read my play in like literally any of my scum games

if there's anything I'm good at as scum it's making sure there are no associations between me and my partners
This game is already plenty to read, thank you very much lol
If that's the case I could see scum!skygazer being outraged at being associated with a partner publicly. There are a few more odd interactions between you two this game, but this one strikes me as particularly out there on revision.

the fact of the matter is that in almost all of my completed scumgames i've seen people say "skyg probably isn't scum with [partner]" because I hyper-focus on my partner associations to make myself/my partners look as good as possible. i've had plenty of towngames where scum purposely drew associations with me to get me mislynched, and i feel like that's exactly what's been happening here. you not being willing to do any sort of research on that is p stupid considering just a quick glance would confirm that...

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:43 am

In post 2457, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 2456, EeveeLution Army wrote:I mean, i didnt think axe was scum anyway. If you look i hardtownread him late day 1 and early day 2. What i thought he was was irrelevent since to me he was town
So why did you check me again?

I forget the exact reason. I think i thought you were slightly scummy d1 + random

nomnomnom · Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:43 am

Oh don't worry, I made plenty of research.

I'm actually surprised no one brought this fact yet, that would probably pit you as the scum between you and eevee. So that means that scum probably knows you've made a risky play and that the townies haven't realized it yet.

ISO · Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 am

In post 2460, nomnomnom wrote:Oh don't worry, I made plenty of research.

I'm actually surprised no one brought this fact yet, that would probably pit you as the scum between you and eevee. So that means that scum probably knows you've made a risky play and that the townies haven't realized it yet.

huh?

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:44 am

I honestly didnt think my role would be that useful early game so i wasnt really being strategic with targets

nomnomnom · Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:45 am

I think I have this game solved now. Everything makes sense to me.

I need to see more solving from you guys and to debate with Axe, but I think I know the scumteam for sure now.

ISO · Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:47 am

nom

you can even see i had you and axe pegged as masons from D1

in which world do I kill Krazy (who was townreading me) and FL (who was townreading me) over two obv masons

ISO · Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:47 am

this game is oof

nomnomnom · Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:50 am

Because Axe was the most obvious lynchbait. That's why. Killing me confirms Axe as mason, and that basically would have ruined the dynamic of town, which was continually going against Axe.

nomnomnom · Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:52 am

The fact that both Nero and you made it sure to declare publicly that you thought we were in a masonry means that you are also independent from each other. Scums would have kept it in their thread as soon as someone mentioned it.

ISO · Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:54 am

i don't not kill PRs just because they're lynchbait, especially something as confirmable as masons

see: me killing scummy A50 in pine because i thought he was a PR

if i had sniffed you out as masons as scum i would've either killed yall or done a better job at buddying yall rather than get paranoid about you or try to protect performer from the night kill by listing him in my PoE

nomnomnom · Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:55 am

You bringing it up later in an "implied" way compared to Nero which literally asked us if we were masons is also extremely suspect given your observation happened later. Nobody else mentioned masons for a long time after that. There's a good chance you could have brought it to your PT as soon as you observed it and started discussing whether or not we should be kept alive. And given that Axe lead mislynches? I think you guys decided to wait the last moment to confirm masons. That's what I think happened.

ISO · Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:56 am

can you quote what you're mentioning

ISO · Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 am

you and axe SR'd me from D1

like why would i ever not kill you lol

nomnomnom · Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:59 am

In post 299, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 297, Skygazer wrote:
In post 294, nomnomnom wrote:Axe is town btw
is this like a "i would never lynch there" level of town?
We're never lynching axe today.

In post 300, Skygazer wrote:UNVOTE:

i think i get it

That's what I'm referring to. Keep in mind that Nero literally said earlier that we were masons.

EeveeLution Army · Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:59 am

Sorry to interrupt but i remembered why disloyal friendly neighbour feels familiar. Iirc ive made a cs with a frightened friendly neighbour on my main site before xD.

bob3141 · Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Mon May 20, 2019 7:59 am

In post 2415, Skygazer wrote:bob is online, if we were both town there'd have been a quickhammer

Dont know about you but ive not been in the newyork forum section since this morning when I was looking at my other game.

I tend to leave countless tabs open on my browser simply beacuase i forgot to close them. If you ever see me online it prob just means im afk