open 759: house party (compleded)

[Uncle Bob]

Mod - if a party is chosen randomly by you, will it be announced in the thread?

Also you should all HEAL: Bob - it's in the rules after all!

Titus, I'm interested in if you can get the minesweeper approach to work. I couldnt. On that basis, I think early on it would be best for us to vote for strong town reads to be sequestered and later on, and especially when there is just one scum left, we can use it like a second lynch, to hopefully force scum to no kill or be outed.

[Uncle Bob]

I think any plan that involves trying to send townie people in is flawed.

Why? It would be a town win if we happened to create a party of five all town.

[Uncle Bob]

What makes it scummy is the way he doubled back and called attention to it in 14.

Why's that?

[Uncle Bob]

Vote: Yumeko

Her plan is unhelpful.

[Uncle Bob]

Don't like Uncle Bob in post 80... why does my plan being unhelpful even mean I get voted? I don't like the reasoning, or lack of connections between voting for scum and voting because you disagree (it seems scummy)

So explain why you think having a small group there with the option of switching things around later so that group outside the party is a good plan?

If we know 5 town right now, we don't need the party mechanic to win anyway - that's a flawed argument. We don't need to win twice as hard, we need to not lose momentum twice as hard by both being wrong on the lynch and thereby being wrong on who is town in the party

Seriously though, if you can name 5 town right now, and everyone agrees, and they're all town.... we win without the party mechanic. Needless to say that's easier said than done

We don't have to nail it down today.

[Uncle Bob]

I think putting active people in the party is a reasonable idea - I'd lean toward active and seeming townie too.

[Uncle Bob]

What makes it scummy is the way he doubled back and called attention to it in 14.

Why's that?

Hello Schiavetto?

[Uncle Bob]

My understanding: There is only one party, we can add members to it, but can't take them out. If scum have to enter to leave the party to make a kill, they are outed by the mod.

[Uncle Bob]

I think putting active people in the party is a reasonable idea - I'd lean toward active and seeming townie too.

subjective and a common fallacy. eg though, its understandable. id lean towards not making any parties for the early game. but again, its subjective.

Which fallacy?

[Uncle Bob]

Edit:

My understanding: There is only one party, we can add members to it, but can't take them out. If scum have to enter or leave the party to make a kill, they are outed by the mod.

[Uncle Bob]

activity=alignment

That's not what I was getting at, more that it would create a division in the town, between active players - more likely scum targets for a nightkill, and the inactive players, then if an active player is killed, we get confirmation that not all the active player are town, and by keeping the group smaller, we isolate scum more quickly.

[Uncle Bob]

Family stuff this long weekend. Will be back tomorrow.

[Uncle Bob]

Back!

[Uncle Bob]

Whelp! I do now

[Uncle Bob]

Is it bad that I'm a big fan of EAF?

[Uncle Bob]

I dont think putting 'popular' players into the party is good.

I dont think putting 5 players that you cant 100 read or lynch without social dramahs is good

Town

[Uncle Bob]

Red panda injected enough energy into the game that I would not lynch him.

[Uncle Bob]

I'm assuming you're going to say you're paranoid about me because Auro just said he's paranoid about me and right now you're parroting things Auro has said. Since I already know what you're going to say there's no need to ask you about it.

How are you not voting RP at this point?

[Uncle Bob]

Policy lynch KM?

First partner/white knight right here

Who's scum and who's town?

[Uncle Bob]

I'm suffering though the Yumeko, Red Panda stuff at the moment, and probably not reading it as closely as I should, but Yumeko, why do you Mary will confess to thinking that she was quick hammering you?

[Uncle Bob]

I also don’t like your PP null read

PP has made enough posts for people to have a solid opinion on him...I get your reasoning on keeping him in your null pile but it just seems non commital

-bae

Caught up through page 20.

I don't grok how hellknight reads the thread

[Uncle Bob]

Getting on a plane nowish. I'll be back sometime over the weekend to hopefully finish catching up. Monday at worst.

[Uncle Bob]

He a Newbie so I'm a bit biased, and he also likes eaf so...small lean town.

he has a decent amount of experience. maybe not necessarily on site, but he's no newbie.

Well, I've played mafia before, but not online.

Why is injecting energy into the game a reason not to lynch someone?

It creates a game state that I think is probably more favourable for the town, and he totally didn't need to do it.

I mean, she might not. We can wait to see what she says. I think it's notable that she's due for a prod now - possibly because she thought the game moved into the night phase and didn't feel any urgency in logging back on to do anything. That's just a theory though - Isn't it better to ask Mary than to ask me what I think Mary will do?

Is this serious - I mean scum Mary would just lie.

I'll wait for Uncle Bob's replacement to read the game and give us their reads.

You will be stuck with me. I will attempt to sort people faster than any replacement.

I would look into red panda tomorrow- his case on us is shit

-bae

I know hell knight is gone, but I couldn't find a case in RedPanda's posts. Am I missing something?

How did you go from thinking Kirari wasn't scum in 930 to her being your "top scum read" in 1180?

So should me reads not evolve throughout the game?

If I’m scum yumeko, who’s my partner?

A pointless question, I don't plan on doing any pre-flip work

Explain how your read "evolved"

@mod please replace us out, sorry

I want to lynch HK for this.

I am not going to read into them wanting to be replaced.

What about right after being asked to explain something?

I like the Lannister's argument that a Town-hydra-partner is unlikely to shame their hydra-partner, and I also think that it is something that frustrated scum would do.

I am a bit concerned that I asked Kiari a couple of questions and both were ignored - it gives me the sense that she's not trying to read me.

[Uncle Bob]

Unvote

I don't want to be part of anyone's death until I am happy with my reads.