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VC 3.01

Garmr (2):

Ausuka 1737, Detective Pikachu 1749

Ausuka (1):

Exilon 1741

Not Voting:

Garmr, Gamma Emerald, u r a person 2, skitter30, Egix96, bob3141

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-06-02 15:00:00)

[u r a person 2]

@garmr Are you a hider, and if so, who did you hide behind last night?

[Garmr]

VOTE: garmr

Yeah nah place that vote on somewhere actually useful.

1. Exilon town
2. Garmr town according to my role pm
3. RuiRui could be town
4. cbynumber probs town
5. Lil Uzi Vertpopsofctown confirmed town
6. Ausuka i would say town
7. u r a person 2 and u can be a townie too
8. skitter30 town
9. Egix96 I'm getting to lazy town
10. ChannelDelibird town
11. Inferno390 town
12.

bob3141 is town

13. Sashaddin that leaves you


VOTE: Sashaddin

Language shows uncertainity everyone is town but the confirmed town and bob. people with town and no words next to their name is just me being lazy cause i can't think of to many unique ways to say maybe town and I want to hide it a bit.

throw some quick thoughts out there

town in my eyes
Lil Uzi Vert
Garmr(that's me)
Bob
Exilon(because of something he said that may rule him out from being scum with out him knowing about it.)

maybe town deciding
Skitter (mainly for peoples reaction to her than anything she has done herself.)

Cautious of
Egix


Who I think can hang personally-
Channel
Sash

Bob listed under me with no reason becuase I don't need to explain why I'm mason buddies with him.

Also it seems like me and bob are in sync. He is town in my eyes.

His town in my eyes becuase my rolepm told me his town. We are in synch becuase we have a qt.

Here my ideas in case I go:

Town:

Garmr
Bob
Ruirui



Null:


URAP2

Fixed this list for you

Bob listed under me becuase his my mason buddy.

Not really but when I have them I point them out. Through I actually outed masons before this way twice I don't think hat's the case this time.

I knew it's not the case becuase me and bob are masons.

If exilon is doing what I think his doing I think, his being really fucking stupid right but town and should think about his actions. Take it from a townie me also pay close attention to the game notes before pulling that off and have a deep think about it.

right now*

Also if you could not call me stupid that would be great thanks

I don't like those sort of gambles you are thinking about. I know your pissed I called it out but it's better than the alternative. I don't think we should tell the rest of game what you were going to do that way we can keep scum guessing. So lets drop the subject right now.

I'm not pissed, I just didn't come here to be personally insulted

I'm not personally insulting by calling you stupid you I'm saying your action is stupid there's a big difference. Which is why I wrote "right now."

Me trying to shut up exil from outing me and bob being masons. I'm telling him to look at the game notes because in my mind scum would of just remained silent since they could rule out the possibility of me and bob being scum partners.

Pretty much but I still scum read inferno individually. Plus I'm so good my votes basically worth 2 jokes.

My vote is worth two because I have Bob to back me up.

Bob is town.

Me and bob start playing a game to see how obvious we can make it we know each others alignment and how clueless everyone else is.

Looks at the bob votes then looks at the rui wagon yesterday.

I'm the only bob vote.

What's the similarity? The person isn't Sashaddin?

They are both town. I'm really good at picking out lynchable town.

continue playing how obvious we can make it.

I'm completely willing to lynch the other two since they aren't on my town list. I can even pretend to be scum for you while lynching them! I'll make a make pretend Private thread in game, I'll invite another townie lets say Bob, Bob is fun.

Litrally laughing as no one is getting we are the same alignment especially since we vote together a lot.

[Garmr]

If you haven't caught on me and bob are masons partners.

[u r a person 2]

ty garmr

[Detective Pikachu]

Three scenarios:
Garmr/Bob masons
Garmr/Bob neighbors with a mason claim gambit with at least one town
Garmr/Bob scum/scum with mason claim gambit

I don't particularly want to reread garmr again so I might read bob tomorrow morning when I'm fresh. I'd like Bob to emphatically rule out 2 though as I would see a neighborhood based mason claim confirmation as gamethrowing right now.

VOTE: Ausuka while I sleep on it

[skitter30]

i don't really believe that garmr/bob are masons; not in a game this size with an ic
i also don't know if i believe that scum!bob goes along with a mason gambit as s/s

[Garmr]

Why would you shoot the confirmed townie first? There's probably other power roles in the game there could be anything from a doctor, to a watcher or a cop anything. Only a noob scum team would shoot the first night.

Also my manipulation of scum doesn't stop with the hider claim. I planted this seed as well. Because with a IC and 2 masons the chances of another role is likely low and even then it would be weak so shooting the IC would be the best bet.

[skitter30]

eh maybe there's a few things pointing to this to be legit; i'll think about it tomorrow

pedit i'd be shocked if town's power amounted to 2masons + ic in a game this size

[Exilon]

I KNEW IT

[Exilon]

But it only occured to me d2

[Ausuka]

I'm an odd night neapolitan. On n1 I got hrg as vt.

I thought with weak hider, that this setup had a theme of 3 clearing prs and maybe a scum one. But with 3 conf from gamestart my role seems really weird.

Bob, if this is a lie please say so.

@skitter: the urap line was just a joke.

[Detective Pikachu]

Why did it feel like you were softing protective for most of day 2?

[Ausuka]

I don't know!

[Ausuka]

If people.thought I was protective why was I almost lynched?

[Detective Pikachu]

VOTE: skitter30

i think her recent play has been decently scummy and i don't want to be wagoned to a claim here, so with consideration to how detective pika pika has skitter as a sr and how the wagon seems much more likely to form than if it was on bob. obviously if bob is being wagoned i'll switch back but.

why are garmr/bob scum? neither were particularly in danger of being lynched iirc.

Pedit: I'm not wrong in what I'm doing.

You softing tpr is literally the only reason you weren't lynched, that was the main reason that I didn't derail Sashaddin onto you. I wasn't sure I'd have time to evaluate your claim in the time we had left. I'm still kinda grossed out by that lynch but I wasn't confident enough in you to lynch you through what was obviously going to be a tpr claim.

I don't get why you are still alive frankly, it was super obvious you were planning to claim tpr. But I guess there's a lot of wifom with the stupid inferno kill so meh.

[Detective Pikachu]

Like, New York setups have been pretty stacked at times but neap+IC+masons feels like a bit much.

Gamma's gotta feel nice knowing there's a 0% chance he's today's lynch though.

[Ausuka]

The first was a tpr soft yes. Second was not.

I agree with you and that's why I'm not really for the mason claim.

I'm prob still alive because scum thought (probably correctly tbh) that I could be lynched through my claim.

[Detective Pikachu]

Spoiler:

I don't know if I' explaining well enough here.
Garmr surviving the night makes me think he has a lot of % of flipping red, because If he is town I don't think CDB was a better kill over Garmr.

sasha are you scum after all

The logic is very flawed as well. Why would you think garmr not being nk woudl make him mafia?

That's what I tried to explain 3 times...

If I were mafia I'd kill town!Garmr first.
Scum!Garmr survives because he can't be killed he's mafia.

LUV has a good point too though. But my first thought was about Garmr being suspect for susrviving the night.

Ok but what makes you think scum's view of the game is the same as yours is? You'd kill garmr but that seems very based on your own perception of him as a player and I can't understand why you're saying that everyone else would do the same thing.

VOTE: Sashaddin

Ok so I'm much more comfortable here than on Garmr and there's no suspicious behaviour that I think I should try and build a new wagon on. I don't fully understand where scumreads on Garmr are coming from: the wagon so far is Sashaddin's vote which is really :v and Inferno's vote which is based on this:

God I don't want a last minute lynch on a spontaneous wagon.

God I don't want a last minute lynch on a spontaneous wagon.

why not tho

1 sash is going to flip scum.
2.less information than wagons that have been going all day.

Unless you wanna lynch inferno?

Given that the only “spontaneous wagon” going on is UR2, this reads suspiciously like scum worried that his partner is going to get lynched out of nowhere because the wagon he’s been pushing falls apart. Plus saying I should be lynched, especially when widely townread indicates to me that he’s scum that wants to get rid of me.

I think this is really shaky reasoning too: sure he says it's scum that's worried his partner gets lynched but... nothing seems to indicate that's actually the case. It's a possibility but nothing makes it more likely than Garmr just being town who doesn't want urap (a non-scumread) to be lynched over Sasha (a scumread.) Additionally if Garmr really wanted rid of Inferno he'd probably do it over the Night phase rather than try to lynch one of the hardest players in the list to lynch.

Otoh Sasha seems quite likely to flip scum for reasons I stated yesterday+the way he's using the kill to push Garmr here feels really wrong. I probably should've kept voting him yesterday lol, although chances are we would've lynched ruirui anyhow.

If you died night 2 town knows you have an inno on HRG how exactly?

[Ausuka]

Why would I die n2? I thought the chances were literally 0, even before claims.

[Detective Pikachu]

Scum neapolitan is a much safer claim for scum to make than masons with their buddy with no investigative role outed.

[Detective Pikachu]

Why would I die n2? I thought the chances were literally 0, even before claims.

You could have been lynched?

[Detective Pikachu]

Scum neap vs IC + 2 masons isn't like particularly outside the range of the logic of normal setups but I don't want to lynch you for your claim either exactly, I just don't see a lot of evidence in your play to support your claim

you basically say nothing about HRG

[Exilon]

I just want Ausuka to actually scumhunt at this moment considering all her SR's have been thrown out the window except for one which is probably just a fallback bus target
But she's conveniently not doing so, what a conundrum!

[Garmr]

I KNEW IT

I actually thought you might of figured it out day 1 tbh. But then I got paranoid around your slot day 2 and thought you'd kill me.