Mini Normal 2071 (Game Over!)

[Garmr]

Also I may be wrong but isn't this a 13 player game so their should be 3 scum not 2.

[skitter30]

well i think that claiming odd-night kinda parallels the fact that i'm even-night, and she did claim it before me so i'm inclined to believe the modifier

i know; i thought i remembered an 11:2 game but i was mistaken, it was 9:2, sorry

[Garmr]

well i think that claiming odd-night kinda parallels the fact that i'm even-night, and she did claim it before me so i'm inclined to believe the modifier

i know; i thought i remembered an 11:2 game but i was mistaken, it was 9:2, sorry

Tbh from my point of view I know bob is town and I been dropping mad hints since day 1 we were the same alignment. So we have 1 ic and 2 masons. It's unlikely you are both town it's even possible you are both scum and town only has a ic and 2 masons.

[Detective Pikachu]

I feel like this is the second time skitter has tried to dumbtell

But can urap/skitter be 2/2?

[skitter30]

No, i didnt try to dumbtell, thank you

And no, this isn't what me/urap look like as svs

[skitter30]

Also i would be *shocked* if nrg ever passed ic + 2masons as the sum total of town poeer in a 13p game

[Garmr]

No, i didnt try to dumbtell, thank you

And no, this isn't what me/urap look like as svs

I've noticed most of your defences this game is I'm not that stupid.

[tris]

VC 3.02

Ausuka (2):

Exilon 1741, Egix96 1785

Garmr (1):

Ausuka 1737

Egix96 (1):

u r a person 2 1797

Not Voting:

Garmr, Gamma Emerald, u r a person 2, bob3141, skitter30 1789, Detective Pikachu 1808

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-06-02 15:00:00)

[u r a person 2]

idk i might just be in conspiracy-theory land
but ic + odd night nea + even night det vs 2 scums feels the most balanced way of spreading around the power to me idk

what about this same idea, but also scum!egix, making it 10:3

because that's my favorite world.

I'll go back through ausuka early tomorrow morning before work

[Garmr]

Sashaddin (5):

[u r a person 2 159, Ausuka 162,

bob3141 180

, Exilon 360,

Garmr 456
u

r a person 2 (4):

Inferno390 79

, skitter30 398,

RuiRui 484, Sashaddin 501

RuiRui (2): ChannelDelibird 174,

Egix96 233
Exilon (1): High Risk Gamble 24

Not Voting:

Lil Uzi Vert 538

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2019-05-03 20:00:00)

Notice here that the out of the 3 wagons urap2 has the most townies on it the only person to vote Urap2 is skitter. there must atleast be one scum on the sash wagon at this point.

RuiRui (7):

ChannelDelibird 174,

Egix96 233, u r a person 2 638, High Risk Gamble 754, Exilon 771, Ausuka 800,

Sashaddin 850

LYNCH!

Sashaddin (4)

:

bob3141

180, skitter30 742,

Garmr 748, Lil Uzi Vert751

u r a person 2 (2):

Inferno390 79, RuiRui 484

Not Voting:

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

This is a lynch notice the amount of confirmed townies on the rui lynch compared to the sash lynch. This shows rui lynch was heavily scum pushed. The only way that there is scum off the wagon is if it is skitter.

Sashaddin (4):

Gamma Emerald 1541,

Garmr 1546, bob3141 1547,

Ausuka 1606
Egix96 (3): Exilon 1043, u r a person 2 1455, skitter30 1497
Ausuka (2): Egix 1270,

Detective Pikachu 1615

Garmr (1):

Sashaddin 860

Not Voting:

Inferno390 1030

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

There's a lot of unconfirmed people on this egix96 slot while only gamma emerald and Ausuka are on Sashaddin. There is at least one scum on the Egix slot.

VC 2.FINAL

Sashaddin (6):

Gamma Emerald 1541,

Garmr 1546, bob3141 1547

, Ausuka 1606, Exilon 1686, u r a person 2 1725 LYNCH!
Ausuka (3): Egix 1270,

Inferno390 1638, Sashaddin 1648

Egix96 (2): u r a person 2 1455, skitter30 1497
skitter30 (1):

Detective Pikachu 1646

Not Voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Skitter and Urap tick most of the boxes for scum. Through vote count analysis. The question is were they looking for a mislynch day 2 or bussing egix?

I feel like this is the second time skitter has tried to dumbtell

But can urap/skitter be 2/2?

I can buy it with skitters and urap voting together day 2 and urap being against a skitter push.

After the vote count analysis aus may be town.

[u r a person 2]

Notice here that the out of the 3 wagons urap2 has the most townies on it the only person to vote Urap2 is skitter. there must atleast be one scum on the sash wagon at this point.

must? lol certainty

[u r a person 2]

This is a lynch notice the amount of confirmed townies on the rui lynch compared to the sash lynch. This shows rui lynch was heavily scum pushed. The only way that there is scum off the wagon is if it is skitter.

hrg is also basically confirmed at this point because ausuka, just sayin

[u r a person 2]

oh i guess must isn't a stretch from your pov, my bad

[u r a person 2]

tbh, a lot of those vote counts become easier to read once im confirmed town

from any perspective but mine im probably a decent lynch. I'll take that one for the team if I can get a guarantee on an egix lynch tomorrow.

[Exilon]

I do think Ausuka is capable of giving Gamma a fake clear.
That just makes Gamma's alignment (when based on Ausuka claim) WIFOM for me

[skitter30]

No, i didnt try to dumbtell, thank you

And no, this isn't what me/urap look like as svs

I've noticed most of your defences this game is I'm not that stupid.

It annoys me a lot when people decide my actions stem from stupidity or incompetance. Idk if it's a defense so much as I'm kinda annoyed that someone would think I would fake dumbtell ... and do it badly

I see ur other post but it's the sort if thing i need a pc for - after work

[skitter30]

tbh, a lot of those vote counts become easier to read once im confirmed town

from any perspective but mine im probably a decent lynch. I'll take that one for the team if I can get a guarantee on an egix lynch tomorrow.

Actually i don't think scum says this ^^^^

[skitter30]

I don't scumread enough people really

[skitter30]

I do think Ausuka is capable of giving Gamma a fake clear.
That just makes Gamma's alignment (when based on Ausuka claim) WIFOM for me

Why do u think she might fo that

Also exilon doesn't make sense with egix i'm pretty sure

Like the possible number of svumteams is pretty small rn

[skitter30]

idk i might just be in conspiracy-theory land
but ic + odd night nea + even night det vs 2 scums feels the most balanced way of spreading around the power to me idk

what about this same idea, but also scum!egix, making it 10:3

because that's my favorite world.

I'll go back through ausuka early tomorrow morning before work

Ok, why are bob/garmr fake-claiming masons here, and not some other permutation of scum - remember this seems to have been decided in like pregame if they're doing this

And, again, ic + odd night nea + even night detective is not enough against 3 scum

[u r a person 2]

I just read ausuka's iso. I guess she could be scum, but if you take away the overexplaining bit, her entire D1 thought processes seem pretty reasonable to me, and they seem like scum hunting.

I'd really rather not lynch a potential pr on the day before they get another check, either. Why would we not wait? If she is town, scum has to choose between killing her tonight to stop the check, and mislynching her tomorrow after the check.

If she's scum, we get the wifom of her 'check' before lynching tomorrow

Egix, on the other hand, I see no reason to wait on.

[u r a person 2]

and skitter from a setup perspective, I'm not sure how likely I think it is that detective is real over nea in this instance. nea is a stronger investigative, with an earlier check. the idea that the only investigative doesn't get a result til start of d3, most likely gets a worthless result, and then doesn't get another result until d5 seems really really weak. It's barely better than getting just the ic + masons. It's basically a named townie that can't confirm themselves in MOST instances, because you're unlikely to EVER hit the person who made the night kill.

so a pure setup spec argument here just isn't resonating

Let's lynch egix for his scummy play

[u r a person 2]

moral of the story, vote egix with me, even if it means you have to bus.

I'm not voting ausuka today.

[Exilon]

tbh, a lot of those vote counts become easier to read once im confirmed town

from any perspective but mine im probably a decent lynch. I'll take that one for the team if I can get a guarantee on an egix lynch tomorrow.

Actually i don't think scum says this ^^^^

I agree with this take.

I do think Ausuka is capable of giving Gamma a fake clear.
That just makes Gamma's alignment (when based on Ausuka claim) WIFOM for me

Why do u think she might fo that

Also exilon doesn't make sense with egix i'm pretty sure

Like the possible number of svumteams is pretty small rn

Actually thinking about it, in a Scum!Ausuka scenario Gamma is much more likely to be scum. I don't think she had many viable targets to use as results for a fakeclaim; going for anyone else still alive would be extremely dangerous (e.g. If she cleared skitter for being a VT she'd be hanged on the spot), but Gamma she can safely clear if he's scum with her. Obviously Egix is not a choice.

As for dead people maybe she could argue a CDB or Inferno investigation, but then post 1602 exists. I explicitly asked her what her strongest townreads were. She couldn't even bother placing High Risk or Inferno there, and even her justification ("I didn't want scum to know I had a clear on person x") is extremely weak here because she listed a bunch of different people and she could have easily TR High Risk/Gamma there without any risk to him (it's not like the guy was lurking, he was posting a lot of interesting content imo).

[u r a person 2]

I'm not even sure that the premise, that IC + odd nea + even detective vs 3 goons isn't balanced. It actually seems kind of in line with one shot FV (with multitasking to get him mislynched) + 1 shot loyal neighborizor + vig vs a goon and a follower

1 real check, 1 vig which is only somewhat pro town, and a named townie with a role that nearly ensures they get mislynched is pr

relative power doesn't feel that off between the two games

I'm also not convinced that gamr couldn't have started planning this the moment bob made his first post which was so yikes I basically gave it a too scummy to be scum read