Mini 2074: Madness at Port Arthur (Game Over)

[Irrelephant11]

If I have reason to townread Clarity later (like, say, her extremely towny reaction and/or claim after getting wagoned right out of the gate this gameday) then skitter sure would look scummier
I’m losing my townread on you, voting Clarity who might be town is 0% dangerous for town!you
My spreadsheet actually told me scum was you/Clarity and I didn’t want to believe it, maybe I should have

[Chara]

i'm not sure of who else i want to discuss. most of the playere who actually have content out are pretty tied into the alignments of these two, and also Smile associations.
i have a pet scumread on Succinct, but they haven't done much to go over. it's full gut.

[Chara]

If I have reason to townread Clarity later (like, say, her extremely towny reaction and/or claim after getting wagoned right out of the gate this gameday) then skitter sure would look scummier
I’m losing my townread on you, voting Clarity who might be town is 0% dangerous for town!you
My spreadsheet actually told me scum was you/Clarity and I didn’t want to believe it, maybe I should have

and now you're trying to scare me into voting Clarity with you?
it's not "dangerous", i don't vote players unless i have a reason to. you asking me to isn't a good enough reason.

you're also not helping me with skitter, but i understand why because wanting to vote the player you're actually scumreading makes much more sense than deciding to go along with somebody else.

[Chara]

it's not "might", it's, "i think skitter is scum and you're asking me to vote someone who's never scum if she is."
why the hell would i, elephant?

[Irrelephant11]

If you’re town you’re being annoying
VOTE: skitter

[Chara]

i could say the same to you.
VOTE: skitter

[funkybike1]

VOTE COUNT

6 of 11 votes are required to lynch.

skitter30 (2):

Irrelephant11, Chara

Not Voting (9):

ceejayvinoya, Persivul, Fuscezu, tris, ClearlyClarity, RCEnigma, insomnia, skitter30, Succinct

Deadline is in (expired on 2019-06-04 15:30:00)

[Irrelephant11]

Lol you weren’t even voting skitter?
And for the record “my townread asked me to” is a STELLAR reason in the game of mafia to place a vote on someone who you basically just said you scumread

[Irrelephant11]

I think scum might just be two of Clarity/CJ/Succinct

i'm not townreading any of this pool (and scumreading Clarity a bit), but i looked at skitter's behaviour around the tris and Smile wagons last night and didn't love it.

[Chara]

i said that before i remembered that they can't be scum together.

[Irrelephant11]

But like, it feels like pre-skitter-flip you’ve entirely lost your scumread on Smile because of a certainty skitter will flip scum
So unless you have a guilty on skitter your play re/Clarity has stopped making much sense to me as town

[Chara]

Lol you weren’t even voting skitter?
And for the record “my townread asked me to” is a STELLAR reason in the game of mafia to place a vote on someone who you basically just said you scumread

no, i realized that after you voted. we all make mistakes.

and i don't really want to talk about it anymore. we can argue in post if you want. to be honest, you keep saying "Chara and CC could be scum together" and yeah, it does make me lose trust in your read there. considering i had absolutely no reason to bus Smile when i did if i'm scum.

[Irrelephant11]

Someone uninformed with the reads

A is town
B is scumlean
C is scumread, but never with B

Shouldn’t get pissed with A asks them to vote B - votes can move you know

Pedit: I’m trying to regain my townread on your slot because I thought I townread you pretty strongly, which is why I’m still arguing

[Chara]

But like, it feels like pre-skitter-flip you’ve entirely lost your scumread on Smile because of a certainty skitter will flip scum
So unless you have a guilty on skitter your play re/Clarity has stopped making much sense to me as town

i'm assuming you mean my scumread on Clarity? which, for the record, amounted to "she seems really nervous" and literally nothing else.
while with skitter, i hated her tris wagon, you made a good point how she was avoiding the Smile wagon, and her paranoia of me given i gave her a blanket townread and

barely

explained why wasn't good enough for me.

pedit: i don't want to argue about this anymore.

[Irrelephant11]

Like I’ll be real transparent and say I like you and your playstyle and had some moments last gameday I thought I really read you strongly town so I *want* you to be town but your play regarding Clarity is confirming the evidence-based Smile/Clarity/Chara team I had on my spreadsheet that I was ignoring because I thought you were town

But you’ve provided no real reasons Clarity is town aside from not being scum with skitter and I don’t get why you insist on not voting her

Pedit: fine
Someone like Percy or tris can decide if I was a chump for joining your wagon when mine made and makes more sense or if you’re still town
I’m feeling to many feelings now

[Irrelephant11]

Without arguing any further about your answer, can I ask one last question?

[Irrelephant11]

A yes/no question

[Chara]

why did i bus Smile in your evidence based spreadsheet?

pedit: fine, ask it.

[Irrelephant11]

Someone uninformed with the reads

A is town
B is scumlean
C is scumread, but never with B

Shouldn’t get pissed with A asks them to vote B

Does this^ ring true to you y/n?

[Chara]

it does. i already said i understand your position.

[Chara]

answer my question now?

[RCEnigma]

Got a couple pages to read, I was redirected to myself last night. Turns out I'm fabulous .

But yeah don't think I vote anyone other than CC today. The way Smile flipped to Fusc when she did seemed like she was trying to get pressure off CC and it backfired down the line. I highly highly believe this.

[Irrelephant11]

Okay
Seems we’re at a stalemate of sorts and I’m not willing to break that for now
No hard feelings if you’re town, I’m sure we’ll get past this uncomfy moment
And especially no hard feelings if you’re scum, you’ve done a great job getting me to back off

I’m gonna exit the thread now I think it’s time for some other voices

Pedit: wait did I miss a question or you still have one?

Hi RCE
Unfortunately Chara has my mind spinning so I’m gonna ignore your post aside from saying I think it’s a good post

[Chara]

why did i bus Smile in your evidence based spreadsheet?

pedit: fine, ask it.

this was my question.

[Fuscezu]

VOTE: skitter

Respecting FL’s dying read