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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 1:46 pm

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RedPanda is likely town.

Thank you for that.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 2:21 pm

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The next person who talks about meta theory owes me a drink or I'm voting them. It's hard to find town when everyone pursues the wrong plans.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 2:24 pm

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Meta theory is valid.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 2:25 pm

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I'm having Cab Sav, would you like one?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 2:33 pm

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In post 428, PenguinPower wrote:I'm having Cab Sav, would you like one?
Yes. I'll have a hard lemonade too.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:06 pm

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I think the optimal group size is four, and we should aim to do 4 town over 4 scum. Peanut gallery commentary welcome.

4 townreads if 100% right:

Strong Town Core protected from nightkill and go into phase 2.

4 townreads if X% right:

Scum have to leave the in group alone OR give us a "At least one in three of your townreads are confoscum" scenario.

4 townreads if 100% wrong:

I wish to unsinstall my life thanks. This ironically enough means that scum is forced to shoot "inside the group" if 4, making it the case that a kill inside the group means we lynch inside that group day two.

VS...


4 scumreads if 100% right:

Scum is forced to shoot inside the group, and we lynch within the group.

4 scumreads if X% right:

Scum shoot in the out group most likely. We gain little information?

4 scumreads if 0% right:

Weak scummy looking town is protected, scum shoots within the "out" group and we really didn't gain any info.

If we do 4 townreads; we then know to lynch within the group of 3 if one of the four is shot.

We then completely do different groupings day two so we can start "minesweepering" sort of like people mentioned.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:09 pm

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In post 429, Titus wrote:
In post 428, PenguinPower wrote:I'm having Cab Sav, would you like one?
Yes. I'll have a hard lemonade too.
I only owe you one drink and have no hard lemonade...

your move.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:28 pm

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In post 431, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 429, Titus wrote:
In post 428, PenguinPower wrote:I'm having Cab Sav, would you like one?
Yes. I'll have a hard lemonade too.
I only owe you one drink and have no hard lemonade...

your move.
I bought the hard lemonade.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:29 pm

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In post 430, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:I think the optimal group size is four, and we should aim to do 4 town over 4 scum. Peanut gallery commentary welcome.

4 townreads if 100% right:

Strong Town Core protected from nightkill and go into phase 2.

4 townreads if X% right:

Scum have to leave the in group alone OR give us a "At least one in three of your townreads are confoscum" scenario.

4 townreads if 100% wrong:

I wish to unsinstall my life thanks. This ironically enough means that scum is forced to shoot "inside the group" if 4, making it the case that a kill inside the group means we lynch inside that group day two.

VS...


4 scumreads if 100% right:

Scum is forced to shoot inside the group, and we lynch within the group.

4 scumreads if X% right:

Scum shoot in the out group most likely. We gain little information?

4 scumreads if 0% right:

Weak scummy looking town is protected, scum shoots within the "out" group and we really didn't gain any info.

If we do 4 townreads; we then know to lynch within the group of 3 if one of the four is shot.

We then completely do different groupings day two so we can start "minesweepering" sort of like people mentioned.
This is the second time this is mentioned. I don't think people know what it means.

Poe, what are your initial gut reads?
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:30 pm

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I like Titus for town too.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:36 pm

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In post 434, PenguinPower wrote:I like Titus for town too.
I like you, well at least when I'm drinking.

Can you pick a random name to wagon so we can get some analysis on VCs? Or a scumread. Doesn't matter. I need help to engage. I feel stuck in RVS.

VC please
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:37 pm

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do me!
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:38 pm

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VOTE: Yumeko Jabami
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 3:45 pm

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VOTE: Yumeko Jabami
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:12 pm

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We need to decide on who we is going to the party before lynching some1.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:16 pm

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In post 439, RedPanda wrote:We need to decide on who we is going to the party before lynching some1.
Ugh scummy.

We need pressure to sort if we're not doing lol random.

Otherwise we might as well do a popularity contest and let scum pick due to charisma advantage.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:20 pm

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In post 434, PenguinPower wrote:I like Titus for town too.
Sell me this pen.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:20 pm

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In post 439, RedPanda wrote:We need to decide on who we is going to the party before lynching some1.
This is why you are not a real panda.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:21 pm

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Noone's doing it at random though
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:21 pm

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In post 441, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:
In post 434, PenguinPower wrote:I like Titus for town too.
Sell me this pen.
Can't. Gut.

Also not superstrong.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:24 pm

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In post 443, RedPanda wrote:Noone's doing it at random though
7-7 random is the only way to eliminate scum influence in pool selection. It creates two unavoidable pools. We can lynch those who argue change. Pretty motherfucking braindead. I get I lost but damn. Insistence on town knowing better than random is why we lose so much. Data is always best. Charisma ok when there's no data.

Hell I play mafia to get better at charisma and reading illogical people.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:25 pm

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I know we only have a day but I'll be around tomorrow
My life is mine! I won't hand it over to anyone!
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 446, Mary Saotome wrote:I know we only have a day but I'll be around tomorrow
Well you damn well better respond to my theory because if you don't tomorrow, I'm charging Thursday.

I won't be here tomorrow.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 430, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:I think the optimal group size is four, and we should aim to do 4 town over 4 scum. Peanut gallery commentary welcome.

4 townreads if 100% right:

Strong Town Core protected from nightkill and go into phase 2.

4 townreads if X% right:

Scum have to leave the in group alone OR give us a "At least one in three of your townreads are confoscum" scenario.

4 townreads if 100% wrong:

I wish to unsinstall my life thanks. This ironically enough means that scum is forced to shoot "inside the group" if 4, making it the case that a kill inside the group means we lynch inside that group day two.

VS...


4 scumreads if 100% right:

Scum is forced to shoot inside the group, and we lynch within the group.

4 scumreads if X% right:

Scum shoot in the out group most likely. We gain little information?

4 scumreads if 0% right:

Weak scummy looking town is protected, scum shoots within the "out" group and we really didn't gain any info.

If we do 4 townreads; we then know to lynch within the group of 3 if one of the four is shot.

We then completely do different groupings day two so we can start "minesweepering" sort of like people mentioned.
These are all fair points, and the more I think about it house pets is not necessarily the best strategy. It's a great strategy if there are no deep wolves and we are able to quickly get the entire scumteam (perhaps along with some scummy town players) into the party. But if there is even just one well-hidden deep wolf scum, it breaks the strategy as the game quickly turns into "hunt the deep wolf" as all of the nightkills will be coming from the larger group of un-partied players, which would include all of obvtown players and the deep wolf scum as well. So it forces us to try and hunt down the deep wolf scum before hunting down the non-deep wolf scum, which is not ideal. It also means we will be losing one obvtown player after another until the deep wolf scum is lynched.

If we are going to heal the four towniest slots then we should heal {Inbred Lannisters, Kirari Momobami, Edgar Allan Foe, duppin}. I think our slot in particular is the most likely nightkill target, as Nancy is frequently targeted for the nightkill on night one.

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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue May 28, 2019 4:32 pm

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HEAL: Inbred Lannisters, Kirari Momobami, Edgar Allan Foe, duppin

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