Newbie 1937 | Maths | Over

Plotinus · Post Post #0 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:48 am

Newbie 1937 | Maths

Hello. In this game I'll be showcasing cool math/programming stuff.

Moderated by Plotinus

Original Playerlist:

1) peekay
2) zeebu
3) simond
4) pema22
5) teddyHasACult
6) wolfcub
7) TTTT (SE)
8) Robbnva (SE)
9) LuckyOtter (SE)

Spoiler: Game Reveals (9)

Spoiler: Spectators (3)

Events5 - Jocus Aevorum replaces peekay, ClearlyClarity replaces simond, Imperator replaces teddyHasACult
6 - Day 1 begins
229 - Eggs replaces wolfcub
635 - Robbnva is lynched, Night 1 begins

637 - Day 2 begins
779 - TheKingInYellow replaces Jocus Aevorum
836 - Dongempire replaces zeebu
928 - Imperator is lynched, day 2 ends

930 - TheKingInYellow is killed, day 3 begins
1058 - pema22 is lynched, day 3 ends

1060 - Eggs is killed, day 4 begins
1074 - ClearlyClarity concedes
1076 - Game Events, links to game threads

Plotinus · Post Post #1 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:57 am

Rules

Inspired by Equinox's, Glork's and Ether's rulesets.

important bit

Day 1: up to 10 days, Day 2+ up to 7 days, Night: 48 hours.
Majority lynches
36 hours before prod, 24 hours before replacement, 24 hour weekends
Bah posts allowed (limit: 1, free of game related content)
I have some unusual rules about animated GIFs, tiny text, and prodging. Scroll down for details.
Don’t be a dick

Follow all site rules.
Mod colour
– My mod colour is
grey
; don't use it.
Behaviour
- Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
Don't talk about ongoing games
- You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
Animated GIFs
- are of the devil, but they are permitted behind spoilers if clearly labelled as such.
Tiny text
- is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
Provable randomness
- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
Claiming scum
- by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
Cryptography
- is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.
Confirmation
- You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days
- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
Activity
- You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
Vacation/Limited Access
If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
V/LA
in bold in the thread like this: [
b]
@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
[
/b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
Prodging
- A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Voting
- Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Plotinus or
Vote: Plotinus
. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
v]Plotinus[
/v] to vote and [
uv]Plotinus[
/uv] to unvote.
Lynching
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
Twilight
- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
Night
- Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Reminders
- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
Notes PT
- Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.
Play to win
- this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!

Plotinus · Post Post #2 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:57 am

Newbie Setup

2d3 (as designed by Cabd):

	A	B	C
Mafia	Mafia Roleblocker	Mafia Rolecop	Mafia Goon
Row 1	Town Cop and Town Neapolitan	Town Cop and Town Tracker	Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2	Town Jailkeeper and Town Doctor	Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker	Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3	Town Cop and Town Doctor	Town Neapolitan and Town Doctor	Town Tracker and Town Doctor

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by

one mafia goons

and

five vanilla townies

appropriately, to create a

2-mafia

and

7-town

setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.

Mafia Roleblocker

action takes precedence over a

Town Jailkeeper

action should that apply.

Mafia can communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: Full Setups

Spoiler: Role PMs

Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a

Town Jailkeeper

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a

Town Cop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Town

or

Mafia

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town NeapolitanWelcome!

You are a

Town Neapolitan

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are

Vanilla Townie

or

Not Vanilla Townie

. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a

Town Tracker

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a

Town Doctor

.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Goon

.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Rolecop

.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.

Vanilla Townies

and

Mafia Goons

will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a role cop in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a

Mafia Roleblocker

.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You and your partner share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional PT, located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.

The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Plotinus · Post Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:57 am

Introduction and Tips

Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)

Key Concepts and Tips

Activity

Try to check in at least once a day.

Besides the activity requirements listed in the moderator's original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone

plays

. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta

Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.

Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!

While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!

As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.

That's okay!

Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.

Have fun!

Plotinus · Post Post #4 (ISO) » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:58 am

All role PMs have been sent out (in the order of the signup list so timestamps mean nothing)! We will start in (expired on 2019-06-03 18:30:00) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.

The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.

Edit: I edited the start time to be a couple hours later so that daystart will not happen in the middle of this programming competition. Of course, if most of you arrive sooner that we can start long before it begins!

Plotinus · Post Post #5 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:35 am

peekay, simond, and teddyHasACult forgot the mafiascum existed or something. They are replaced by Jocus Aevorum, ClearlyClarity, and Imperator, in that order. Jocus Aevorum, ClearlyClarity, and Imperator have (expired on 2019-06-05 12:35:18) to confirm before I start looking for a replacement. Day 1 will start in a minute as soon as i find something cool for the votecount.

Plotinus · Post Post #6 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:42 am

Official Vote Count 1.00

Problem B was pretty interesting in today's coding contest. I made it out to be more complicated than it was and spent a while writing some pretty complicated logic (that worked, but exceeded the timelimit for very large inputs), but there's actually a trick to it that you can solve a couple lines.

Spoiler: The key thing I was missing

LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Everybody

(0): Nobody

Not Voting

(9): Jocus Aevorum, zeebu, ClearlyClarity, pema22, Imperator, wolfcub, TTTT, Robbnva, LuckyOtter

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-06-13 19:00:00).

Mod notes:

Jocus Aevorum, ClearlyClarity, and Imperator have (expired on 2019-06-05 12:35:18) to confirm before I start looking for a replacement.

Please take a moment to familiarise yourselves with my ruleset because I have some rules you may not have encountered in other games before regarding animated gifs, tiny text, prodging and perhaps some other things.[/area]

LuckyOtter · Post Post #7 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:05 am

VOTE: wolfcub well that was easy

(easy_button.gif)

Robbnva · Post Post #8 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:50 am

ClearlyClarity · Post Post #9 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:58 am

Bye girls!

Jocus Aevorum · Post Post #10 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:27 pm

Hello, VOTE: zeebu.

TTTT · Post Post #11 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:05 pm

In post 9, ClearlyClarity wrote:Bye girls!

confirmed town
never lynch

Robbnva · Post Post #12 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:23 pm

VOTE: clarity

Imperator · Post Post #13 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:31 pm

VOTE: TTTT

That profile picture is hideous. Sorry, but I just don't want to look at it anymore.

Plotinus · Post Post #14 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:47 pm

Everyone has confirmed!

ClearlyClarity · Post Post #15 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:12 pm

Post here now or you will all get died.

Imperator · Post Post #16 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:17 pm

TTTT · Post Post #17 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:16 pm

here now

TTTT · Post Post #18 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:16 pm

In post 16, Imperator wrote:Here

you dun goofed
get died

TTTT · Post Post #19 (ISO) » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:17 pm

In post 13, Imperator wrote:VOTE: TTTT

That profile picture is hideous. Sorry, but I just don't want to look at it anymore.

if it helps..
it's an adult human wearing a giant baby human mask
you shoulda seem it when it was an animated gif

Imperator · Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:36 am

That does help a little bit. Not much though. Now I'm imagining it has a gif.

Robbnva · Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:37 am

It’s even worse as a gif. Truly a disturbing image.

Jocus Aevorum · Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:34 am

In post 15, ClearlyClarity wrote:Post here now or you will all get died.

ClearlyClarity, have you ever played Mafia before? If you have, may I have a link to a previous forum mafia game?

ClearlyClarity · Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:39 am

Just click on my name.

Jocus Aevorum · Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:04 am

In post 11, TTTT wrote:
In post 9, ClearlyClarity wrote:Bye girls!
confirmed town
never lynch

I would disagree based on past evidence, considering that ClearlyClarity RVS lynched in Newbie 1924 and was scum but also did the same in Newbie 1931 and was not scum. It appears in several other games like Mini 2074 that it is typical for ClearlyClarity to RVS lynch, but this is only three games.