Frankly, I would pit myself against Saudade too, but it's really just as simple as trust Blake, Skitter, and as a result, me. I actually do not need to flood the thread with reasons to make you think Saud and LUV are scums because not only are they apparent, but the fact of the matter is that the townmeddling will actually win here.
I have nothing else to say. I win or lose with these two here, even if they are dead.
In post 2067, MaryJoLisa wrote:You, Nom nom, may possibly be the voice of reason. But you're also the least trustworthy person in the game right now. So I'm going to need to think long and hard about how awesome your game solving skills really are, and whether or not you're actually coming from a town position and not a scum position.
I know that. I am simply carrying Skitter's and Blake's gamesolving with me, which is what I wanted from the start. As long as you believe in our collective sorting skills, we cannot lose. If you do not trust me, trust Blake and Skitter with their reads. I did this to prove a point. It's better to have someone leading everyone, rather than 3 good solvers that do not listen to each other.
Saudade just locked himself if he really is scum. You have to understand how illogical it is to believe I am bussing my partner, yet not voting the guy if that's what he thinks. It's as simple as that.
I don't think about games during the two day scum-plotting period. So I'll need time to comb through the thread. If you're relying on my vote, be thinking in terms of days not hours.
All 3 town need to vote the scum here. If Saudade is not throwing as town, it means that he never busses LUV here. So I need to convince both of you and TDC to just be trustful of our collective game solving. And you'll see what I say is true in the long run, so, again, I'll leave you to it.
In post 2080, Saudade wrote:Did you have these posts pre-made and pre-written in a text file?
I'm not going to bother responding to you, it's just going to feed town's insecurity about me being alive, when they simply need to trust Blake and Skitter instead. If they can't trust two flipped townie's solving in favor of a guy that tunneled on two townies? We are doomed anyway. So it doesn't matter.
Don't listen to this guy and focus on what I told you. It's Blake and Skitter's game solving at play here. Trust them or lose together.
I did so to confirm myself that I was not being tricked, and that instead, this was town blake pushing her solve. I knew that as long as we could carry a unique push together, that we literally couldn't fail.
In post 2085, TDC wrote:First of, sorry Blake that I was unable to reconsider you. I should have tried.
I will happily have saudade mock me for this if he is town.
Nom: Why am I suddenly conf town for you?
You weren't. But Saudade just locked himself in a corner here, which confirms the LUV and Saudade pair. He backed himself in a corner. He basically slipped when he said I was bussing my partner, yet decided to vote me.
Again, all of this is really simple if you consider that all I am pushing here is Blake's and Skitter's solve. If you do not trust them, by all means vote me out, so we can all lose together. But if you trust in our collective solving, then the only answer here is LUV.
Your "I'm skitter and Blake talking from the grave" routine is really rubbing me the wrong way. Also, you shouldn't maybe read how Blake thougt about you before the hammer.
It rubs you the wrong way because it comes from me. But you can see for yourself, go back to day 1, and Skitter/Blake had a collective LUV scumread, yet did not push him, which was my initial paranoia moment. If they trusted each other then and voted LUV, we literally would have won day 1. It was a matter of trusting each other.
Day 2, I had to hammer blake to see if her solve was coming from a town member or if she was pulling one on me. Turns out she was not. She still believes LUV is scum. Nothing changed from day 1.
So really. Go back through this game and reread it carefully. This is not about me anymore. I laid my cards on the table. That's all I have here.
In post 2091, TDC wrote:I don't see why saudade should not vote for either of his solve.
He never solved anything. He pushed cheeky hardcore, then when she revealed herself as mason, he pushed the creature lynch, then tunneled on me. There was no solve. He is not even pushing for his """""LUV""""" solve despite it being there all game long.
Blake Belladonna has been lynched. She was a Vanilla Townie.
It is now Night 2, which will end in (expired on 2019-06-04 15:15:15).
This was infuriating and I can’t even say I feel remorseful. If you’re still following along Blake, communicate better. I still have no clue as to why you were scum reading me and you made no attempt to address my concerns at all. Also please refrain from playing hero in your future games.
In post 2059, nomnomnom wrote:And I know you do not trust me, and that's alright. This isn't about me anymore. I am the voice of Blake and Skitter. If I am genuinely wrong on this last vote, that means that they failed me and that they should have listened to me from the start. If this goes through, well... the blame is more on my side, but it was a game of my trust that was being played with.
In post 2060, nomnomnom wrote:The mafia doesn't realize this, but they actually have lost if this is correct.
VOTE: LUV
This is the vote of Blake and Skitter. If you are town and want to reach F3, this is the vote. We'll know if this is wrong if this is followed by a quickhammer, and at this time, we can classify as a colossal town failure because despite having a townmeddling of 4 people we could not do anything with it. That's all I'm going to say.
I’m going to need you to step off the ledge here and unvote. It’s MyLo. While Saudade is caught scum, I have no clue who his partner is and I’m not sure if I’m going to have time to figure it out by myself before another collapse.
Skitter and Blake are fairly decent players and I know deep down you’re truly feeling like Cheeky was yesterday. Scared. Scared of being wrong. Scared of letting down not only players you admire and respect, but also care about.
The reality is that they were wrong on Creature and they’re wrong on me. I’m not the easiest reads but I can tell you I’ve been in this scenario more times than I can count. All I ask is for you is to make your own judgment and help me look at Mary Jo and TDC one more time.
In post 2076, nomnomnom wrote:Frankly, I would pit myself against Saudade too, but it's really just as simple as trust Blake, Skitter, and as a result, me. I actually do not need to flood the thread with reasons to make you think Saud and LUV are scums because not only are they apparent, but the fact of the matter is that the townmeddling will actually win here.
I have nothing else to say. I win or lose with these two here, even if they are dead.
In post 2085, TDC wrote:First of, sorry Blake that I was unable to reconsider you. I should have tried.
I will happily have saudade mock me for this if he is town.
Nom: Why am I suddenly conf town for you?
You weren't. But Saudade just locked himself in a corner here, which confirms the LUV and Saudade pair. He backed himself in a corner. He basically slipped when he said I was bussing my partner, yet decided to vote me.
That doesn’t make me scum. That’s just Saudade being Saudade.
