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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:23 am

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VOTE COUNT 1.6
u r a person 2 (5):
teacher, Nero Cain, Saladman27, NerfedBuj, Vorkuta
L-2

Vorkuta(2):
Dunnstral, nomnomnom
teacher (1):
Cinnamon
Cinnamon (1):
Vorkuta
skitter30 (1):
Detective Pikachu
nomnomnom (1):
u r a person 2

Not Voting (3):
skitter30, EvilDeanius, Flubbernugget

With
13
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7
to hammer.
Day 1 ends in
(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)


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- skitter30 has not picked up her role PM but is also v/la until Tuesday 6/11. She has until Tuesday EOD to confirm before she gets replaced.

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At work, so no flavor today :(
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:24 am

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In post 241, Vorkuta wrote:do lumberjacks do that with chainsaws
o_0
Such wk/chainsawing

Where are my "bad arguments"?
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:24 am

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right so im just gonna spill what I've been thinking. Its prob wrong anyways so...
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:25 am

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You are trying wayyyyy too hard to find reasons to vote people, and at a first glance of your playstyle this might pass as just "something you do" but this is so gross I am willing to vote this out of the game. This is scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:27 am

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I don't need reasons to vote people, especially in D1.
Neither do most people on site (due to uncontested naked votes being status quo)

Plus this is scumhunting and mafia 101
wagons -> associations -> finds -> hops on & off -> flips -> VCAs
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:28 am

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In post 254, Vorkuta wrote:I don't need reasons to vote people, especially in D1.
Neither do most people on site (due to uncontested naked votes being status quo)
Yet you've given extensive reasons to do so. That's contradictory and that's exactly why you're scum.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:31 am

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*sighs*
At least I provide people the courtesy of giving them solid reasons that will form my initial scum case on them

It's 100% pro-town as you can see my thought processes/logic (unlike anything you've done this game) on most of the players in the game.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:33 am

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In post 256, Vorkuta wrote:*sighs*
At least I provide people the courtesy of giving them solid reasons that will form my initial scum case on them

It's 100% pro-town as you can see my thought processes/logic (unlike anything you've done this game) on most of the players in the game.
You can't claim at the same time that you don't need to provide reasons to push people, while reaching this fucking hard to justify your vote on someone.

It's not pro town, you're giving completely two different signals that contradict each other. On a fucking D1 vote.
I'll also pass on the non-necessary shade :igmeou:
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:36 am

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That was in response to:
In post 253, nomnomnom wrote:too hard to find reasons to vote people
-I don't need reasons
-HOWEVER, even though I have no obligation to, I
generously
give people some so that they don't "o_0 y u scumread me nooo"

My thought process and play-style is quite pro-town, even though it doesn't explicitly need to be, as the alternative is a naked urap2 vote without any ATTEMPT to read the slot
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:37 am

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In post 258, Vorkuta wrote:My thought process and play-style is quite pro-town, even though it doesn't explicitly need to be, as the alternative is a naked urap2 vote without any ATTEMPT to read the slot
You are LITERALLY proving my point.

Just get this lynched.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:38 am

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You have a bad faith style going on but I can see through your bullshit, it's not going to work this game.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:40 am

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In post 257, nomnomnom wrote:It's not pro town, you're giving completely two different signals that contradict each other. On a fucking D1 vote.
How on earth am I proving this?
I'm saying that "I'm not obligated to BUT I will anyway"
The 2 signals are not mutually exclusive, but COMPLEMENTARY

Remember the prior slight shade thrown at you for failing to explain your leaps in logic?
Now you're proving MY point :cool:
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 261, Vorkuta wrote:I'm saying that "I'm not obligated to BUT I will anyway"
The 2 signals are not mutually exclusive, but COMPLEMENTARY
The literal definition of LAMIST but yeah I'm just having "leaps of logic" lmao

okay bud
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:44 am

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You took one harmless and valid explanation to "you're reaching too far" and are blowing it way the fuck out of proportion.
Your reasoning and thought process for trying to push this is disgusting.

Also HYPOTHETICALLY- "ok fine, yes, I contradicted myself, oh no, I see the error of my ways, please guide me to the light"
How does that make me scum?
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:46 am

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In post 263, Vorkuta wrote:You took one harmless and valid explanation to "you're reaching too far" and are blowing it way the fuck out of proportion.
Your reasoning and thought process for trying to push this is disgusting.
I don't see harmlessness and a valid explanation, I see justified opportunism.

I'll gladly do everything in my power to get you lynched today for this monstrosity :wink:
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:46 am

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In post 200, ofrhz wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.5
u r a person 2 (2):
teacher, Nero Cain
teacher (1):
Cinnamon
Cinnamon (1):
Vorkuta
skitter30 (1):
Detective Pikachu
Vorkuta(1):
Dunnstral
NerfedBuj (1):
nomnomnom
nomnomnom (1):
u r a person 2
Nero Cain (1):
NerfedBuJ

Not Voting (4):
skitter30, Saladman27, EvilDeanius, Flubbernugget

With
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alive, it takes
7
to hammer.
Day 1 ends in
(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)


Game Notes:

- skitter30 has not picked up her role PM but is also v/la until Tuesday 6/11. She has until Tuesday EOD to confirm before she gets replaced.

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I'm like really lazy and I don't want to go back and quote multiple VC's although it'll prob prove my point better.

So I started the game scum reading urap. (yes, my cinnabunny push was fake and I just wanted to see what happened.)

For awhile teacher and urap were cross voting and sitting on each other with urap only getting off to delay OMGUS his voter.

My initial response was "these guys are scum together"

As you can see teacher is still sitting on urap despite
In post 86, teacher wrote:
Urap
and cinnamon are town.
So he's being shit with his vote.
In post 71, teacher wrote:
In post 52, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 49, teacher wrote:I don't understand why I'm a miller and
something else.
Why’d you jump in?
Why’d you chop it so it looks like me speaking?
this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
In post 212, teacher wrote:Woah, jump from TR to vote is pretty aggro and illogical. Care to explain?
I also did not like his light defense of the urap wagon.

Similarly, I don't like how DP is sitting on an empty slot.

I am p sure that thier/doubters defences will be "its p9! and there's nothing strong to go on." but thats how I feel rn.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:49 am

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In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
You mean the thing where he doesn't pay attention to the game and shows that he blatantly doesn't follow the thread? That's what Bob did by pushing Sky and putting a misread claim in his reasons to do so.

Then again the circumstances were different.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:50 am

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In post 248, nomnomnom wrote:the reach is real
The onus is on you to show how this is "opportunism" and not "genuine scumhunting" as I have already more than adequately defended myself.
You're more interested in trying to get me to "slip up" or catching me in a contradiction than actually... you know... making your point.

Also- does scum!vork just go blazing all out for blood for a miller claim, and after it doesn't attract enough attention immediately I try to gut the next best person? (your former scum read, might I add)
Like how bad/desperate for a mislynch (on D1 when not everyone checked in ffs) do you think scum!vork is?
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:50 am

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@Nero In that game we also were kind of right for the wrong reasons. I was right in the sense that he was not reading the thread and pushing a really shit vote but the justification for it wasn't opportunism but free townie points by bussing Sky.

Do you think this is the same kind of deal here? I feel this is slightly different.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:52 am

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In post 267, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 248, nomnomnom wrote:the reach is real
The onus is on you to show how this is "opportunism" and not "genuine scumhunting" as I have already more than adequately defended myself.
You're more interested in trying to get me to "slip up" or catching me in a contradiction than actually... you know... making your point.

Also- does scum!vork just go blazing all out for blood for a miller claim, and after it doesn't attract enough attention immediately I try to gut the next best person? (your former scum read, might I add)
Like how bad/desperate for a mislynch (on D1 when not everyone checked in ffs) do you think scum!vork is?
I just think you're banking on your loose playstyle way too hard and that the over-justification for your vote was a complete contradiction of your usual demeanor, which is absolutely a scumtell as far as I am concerned. That or just a big contrast with how you are as a person. But I'm banking on scum here.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:52 am

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*sighs*
who is bob, and can I get a link?
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:56 am

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In post 266, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
You mean the thing where he doesn't pay attention to the game and shows that he blatantly doesn't follow the thread? That's what Bob did by pushing Sky and putting a misread claim in his reasons to do so.

Then again the circumstances were different.
I was talking about the time where I edited one of his posts to just include the relevant portion of his quote and he was all like "why you'd do that?!?"

What do you think of my scumreading teacher and DP for being useless with their votes?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:58 am

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In post 269, nomnomnom wrote:that the over-justification for your vote was a complete contradiction of your usual demeanor
Literally anyone can tell you that every time I vote someone or something I can TELL YOU exactly why I'm voting for that player.
Sure the reasons can be shitty (I sheep, or hopping on this wagon, or 'beetlejuicing'), but in no way is this a contradiction from my 'usual demeanor'
In post 269, nomnomnom wrote:absolutely a scumtell as far as I am concerned
Again- do you think I'm that bad enough to "ridiculously slip up like this" on D1?
Those were my meta arguments; now for the logic bit

You haven't shown me how I'm reaching (by explaining what my flaws are in my urap2's case)
You have yet to show me how a contradiction in my words implies that I'm scum. "absolutely a scumtell" is BS
You're just interested in just trying to catch me on a slip- maybe because you're a reaction-testy player (also a playstyle I don't like),

And of course you'll catch me slipping up: after all you scum read me, so every word I write is a scum tell because of course it is
/s

Come up with real arguments
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:00 am

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In post 271, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 266, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 265, Nero Cain wrote:this is mainly for Nom and I know he's not Bob but this IS similar to the same thing Bob did. Could this be a newbie scum tell?
You mean the thing where he doesn't pay attention to the game and shows that he blatantly doesn't follow the thread? That's what Bob did by pushing Sky and putting a misread claim in his reasons to do so.

Then again the circumstances were different.
I was talking about the time where I edited one of his posts to just include the relevant portion of his quote and he was all like "why you'd do that?!?"

What do you think of my scumreading teacher and DP for being useless with their votes?
I literally don't remember that happening lmao

You make a fair point with that I think. I would support a teacher wagon at least. Probably wouldn't support a DP wagon though.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:03 am

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Pika hasn't said anything relevant so far (100% fluff) so idk
Teacher hopefully sorts himself out a bit later
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