2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

[Lavender]

Just freakin got on and we have 20 pages already, I'm not reading through that.

[Lavender]

I can barely tell players in the game from players not in the game. This is the exact mayhem I expected! If someone could summarize the pages that would help.

[Lavender]

From the first 5 pages that I skimmed, nothing useful? It hurt too much to read.
PE: As long as they didn't die in the game, sure.

[Lavender]

I mean why though roster?

[Lavender]

I mean I'm not either, just reading ISO's of people posting rn.

[Lavender]

What is the deadline btw? I can't find it.

[Lavender]

Ehh...do my posts sound scummy? Well the reads I've seen keep calling me scum..so maybe?

[Lavender]

Speedlynch is basically hammer, not very helpful to town IMO.

[Lavender]

Nonsense, a scum lynch is always good!

A scum lynch is def good, but a town lynch gets you lynched too...

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

You're not even in the game though...

[Lavender]

VOTE: Lavender

Let’s do this NOM^3

Stop making wagons, then saying they're a joke, and jumping over to another wagon.

[Lavender]

@nom I want more info except 'scum tone' to get a lynch for me. Tell me what scum tone there is and explain.

[Lavender]

Lavender is typing like a player that clearly did not want to roll scum this game and is shaking every single post. Easiest newb!scum tell ever.

And you sound like a sad town/scum member. Tell me where I'm shaking will ya?

[Lavender]

Okay back on the more serious topic at hand.

Will try to get people to stroke my ego this game especially people in positions of power. I WILL get mith to post here!

Why is it so important to get mith to post here?

[Lavender]

lmao

lmao at actual questions is scummy.

[Lavender]

Post game cred if both ^ are mafia

You're dead no post

kidding

[Lavender]

Okay back on the more serious topic at hand.

Will try to get people to stroke my ego this game especially people in positions of power. I WILL get mith to post here!

Why is it so important to get mith to post here?

Imagine the founder of the site telling me i'm the best. My life would have a little more sense you know?

Yes i'm lonely

Same goes for admins and mods obviously.

Sounds boring, the founder is just a person. Unless they are a robot I suppose.

[Lavender]

Post game cred if both ^ are mafia

You're dead no post

kidding

I'm not dead, RedFlavour is.

I see, got it.

[Lavender]

VOTE: Lavender

While I'm here, why?

[Lavender]

You obviously don't get the ego rush that is to get people with colored names to call you good at this. Amateur.

I'm no amateur. You yourself called me newb. Stop correcting yourself.

[Lavender]

why

more like

How???

How what?

[Lavender]

it's okay it was more of a jokepost because you're probably very confused people caught you as scum this early, in a game with constant shitpost no less

anyway yeah, will let the thread fill with more shitpost. I will get those egostroking posts.

Hey did you know? Evading questions is scummy, I have asked you many, barely any answers.

[Lavender]

the truth needs no explanation when it's on plainsight!

Congrats you're post 666, those that stroke your ego? Anyways, its not truth, it is opinions, opinions need explanations.

[Lavender]

Oh wait I'm post 666.

[Lavender]

That first 0 post always messes me up.

[Lavender]

Just vote me I'm scum by your own logic.

That's true VOTE: Nomnomnom

[Lavender]

good girl/boy/plant

all according to plan heheheheeehebnebnyeb

Plant, you should have said, "All according to the keikaku"

[Lavender]

actually no I missed the bigger joke...

Ahem

all according to PLANT

thank you im here all day

Don't you have a life?

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Is it just me or did the font not change at all?

The font changed for me when I checked.

[Lavender]

But why though? And why nest your vote between two non-players voting?

i voted lavender because i thought their first post was a wolfy pop-in; like they were making excuses for not scumhunting (while not reading the shitfest is plausible i'd expect town to, like, look at some ISOs and make some sort of attempt)

i'm not going to not vote because one non-player voted before me. i think it's pretty obvious from my play so far that i haven't been trying to blend in this game.

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[Lavender]

now that the truth is just
a rule that you can bend
you crack the whip shape shift
and trick the past again

the clash at demonhead - black sheep

votecount 1.09

3 players voting for rosterfoster (Who, Wagonomics, Jingle)
3 players voting for Pine (mastina, PenguinPower, rosterfoster)
2 players voting for Lavender (Ausuka, nomnomnom)
1 player voting for mastina (hated)
1 player voting for PenguinPower (ofrhz)
1 player voting for nomnomnom (Pine)

3 players not voting (Titus, EeveeLution Army, Lavender)

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

mod notes: hey everybody I have my first full day at a new job today! and by full day I mean it's part time so it's still not a full day, but, like, wish me luck

..I was voting nomnomnom.
Anyhow good luck with that job.

[Lavender]

I like how xyzzy doesn't realize that all their viewers are me on different accounts. Dont believe me? watch me post this on my other accounts

[Lavender]

Anyhow, we probably need an updated VC and the time left for this day.

[Lavender]

Eh there’s no deadline. Alrighty, that should be goods.

[Lavender]

love, love will tear us apart again
love, love will tear us apart again
love, love will tear us apart again
love, love will tear us apart again

fall out boy - love will tear us apart

votecount 1.11

5 players voting for rosterfoster (Who, Wagonomics, Jingle, Ausuka, Titus)
2 players voting for Who (ofrhz, rosterfoster)
1 player voting for EeveeLution Army (PenguinPower)
1 player voting for Pine (mastina)
1 player voting for Lavender (nomnomnom)
1 player voting for mastina (hated)
1 player voting for nomnomnom (Pine)

2 players not voting (EeveeLution Army, Lavender)

with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

mod notes: re:1342, I don't see why not. it's not ongoing, so you're not breaking any rules. re:1524, I posted about this in the queue, but I'll confirm here again that the decision to go with these more lax deadline rules was decided upon after the setup was designed, and I didn't take the setup into consideration when deciding to do that.

Am I invisible? I voted noms...

Also a non-player helping that much is shocking and beautiful.
Anyone wanna discuss anything with me?
Additionally, what’s the number of scum?

[Lavender]

nom why are you still voting lavender?

Because they want an ego fix.

[Lavender]

10/52 of roster’s posts are votes, some of them are nonsense, and too many hearts.
Might change to him when my vote is fixed.

[Lavender]

@roster

Why should we Lynch me? Why did you vote me again when you have been pushing Who?

[Lavender]

I've decided to give nomnomnom a pass for now. I highly suspect that she's a SK, but she can be leashed. A good SK acts like a good vig anyway, and should never be allowed to survive to endgame. It will solve itself eventually, and hunting groupscum takes priority.

Still vibing roster scum, and this latest interaction with Lavender in particular feels like SvS theater.

VOTE: Lavender

This is a tree worth shaking.

I’m not a tree.
Jokes aside, if this was SvS it would be completely pointless, there is no valid reason for me to be scum (at least I think so) rosters read (if they even had one) would be pretty weak. While it might increase my town cred perhaps.
It wouldn’t be that helpful either. Basically, doing theatre like this wouldn’t happen,
so it is not SvS theatre.

Lastly, why would that feel like SvS theatre? I was simply asking a read about myself to see why they would vote me.

[Lavender]

VOTE: Who

Please answer my previous questions or I will vote you.

Also, yay my vote is fixed!

[Lavender]

I forgot that I was voting you.

We should you both you and who because you’re both scum <3

That reply was horrendous...what did you even say?
VOTE: rosterfoster

[Lavender]

Why am I still scummy? Because people say so? For what reason? No one has told me and I’m getting tired of baseless accusations.
Should I claim? Idk, but if I live till tomorrow I will absolutely claim, because of the amount of people suspecting me for a reason not given.

[Lavender]

I suspect you because I don't townread you and this game has a lot of very town looking players.

Fair enough.

It's alright I am shooting scum tonight.

Who is scum then?

[Lavender]

Wouldn't you like to know

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[Lavender]

So yeah:

Very town: Jingle, Nom, Eevee, Orfhz

Scummy: Ausuka, Lavender, Who

Remember this.

Tell me your full thoughts on all of these reads, such as why you think they are very towny, or very scummy.
Make it full of details and do not de-rail.

[Lavender]

Tell me your full thoughts on all of these reads, such as why you think they are very towny, or very scummy.
Make it full of details and do not de-rail.

Sorry but I don’t do details. Reads based on huge amounts of information are entirely pointless because they get bloated.

It’s all about whether I see the posts coming from a town or scum mindset and I have made posts with the quotes which show motivations before.

Where are the posts with quotes which show motivations? Can you quote some posts from me and show motivation from them please.

Mostly gut, having to do with their cautious approach here. They both feel like they’re trying play cleanly, be present without attracting negative attention under the cover of so much static. More stalking lion than charging wolf.

I’ve seen town Eevee play similarly before (most recent LN to finish), which is why I think this is worse for Who than Eevee.

Nom I think Pine is town, pls shoot Lavender

If you really are town, you are really gonna regret saying this.

[Lavender]

Assuming nom follows through and shoots me, here are my reads:

Scum: Lavender, one of {Who, Eevee}*, one of the lurkers {mastina, Penguin, Titus}. SK nomnomnom.

Town: Ohfrz, Jingle, Ausuka

*Both seem a little scummy, but my gut says not together.

Same question to Roster, in depth reasons why you think they are scum/town.

[Lavender]

I suspect you because I don't townread you and this game has a lot of very town looking players.

This but also Lavender's posts just kinda suck.

Where do my posts suck? This would be a good learning experience if you do tell me.

Votecount here?

Roster is being lynched if I read correctly.

[Lavender]

|.o) Roster can answer me question please?

[Lavender]

I don’t give in depth reasons for these things.

Like I fundamentally disagree with the view that it is possible to give a huge case on someone. I gave reasons for some of my thoughts earlier.

Mastina is town because (contrary to what people think) she struggles to fake anger and she has anger here.

Alright, in your last answer you said you find motivation for town/scum, may you quote some of my posts and tell me what motivation you see there?

[Lavender]

Since I survived 1st night and said I would claim.
My role is, Town jeep+MeMe Winner, basically if jeep and MeMe post once in this thread, town automatically wins the game, only If I am alive to see it happen.

[Lavender]

VOTE: Lavender

I've decided to give nomnomnom a pass for now. I highly suspect that she's a SK, but she can be leashed. A good SK acts like a good vig anyway, and should never be allowed to survive to endgame. It will solve itself eventually, and hunting groupscum takes priority.

Still vibing roster scum, and this latest interaction with Lavender in particular feels like SvS theater.

VOTE: Lavender

This is a tree worth shaking.

I’m not a tree.
Jokes aside, if this was SvS it would be completely pointless, there is no valid reason for me to be scum (at least I think so) rosters read (if they even had one) would be pretty weak. While it might increase my town cred perhaps.
It wouldn’t be that helpful either. Basically, doing theatre like this wouldn’t happen,
so it is not SvS theatre.

Lastly, why would that feel like SvS theatre? I was simply asking a read about myself to see why they would vote me.

Hey Pine, never answered my question. So yeah, how you feel knowing it wasn't SvS theatre?

[Lavender]

Yeah N_M is definitely Town.

Intent to hammer at or around 4PM EST.

(expired on 2019-06-11 14:00:00)

I buy the commuter claim, just not the alignment. Commuter is absolutely a reasonable role to give scum when there's a vig/SK in the mix.

Intent to hammer.

I'm comfortable not having access to my power N1, I don't have a good target for it. Ofrhz, did you ever get yours activated? Should we spend time getting an NPC to summon someone?

Also bit late but, you should probably bold your intent to hammer messages. To make them more noticeable.

[Lavender]

Since I survived 1st night and said I would claim.
My role is, Town jeep+MeMe Winner, basically if jeep and MeMe post once in this thread, town automatically wins the game, only If I am alive to see it happen.

Could you explain your town motivation for claiming VT in a game that is already effing loaded with flavorful fits-the-game-theme-but-it's-actually-a-VT so that we lose the 0.7 power roles we have to scum NKs?
Because I already have some ideas about why you would do it as mafia and am catching a whiff of why people seem to want to lynch you.

I never claimed VT, nor did I soft at it.

[Lavender]

Unless I misunderstood your question?

[Lavender]

Obviously you agree with that as I'm seeing no effort to instant win the game, you're just objecting to my wordplay and turn of phrase on it I guess.

I’m sorry but, I have no idea myself who jeep and MeMe are, no idea where they are, and when did I ever object? I responded with an answer.

[Lavender]

Your VT claim is nested in that post MeMe and jeep both is just a never ever.

No it isn’t? I didn’t know that Jeep and MeMe is a never ever. I just said what my role was.

[Lavender]

Are you actually not an alt, cause like.
I've been assuming your an alt.

And most people bored enough of their main accounts to make an alt would have heard of at least jeep.

I think? Or am I just old?

I’m not an alt, only games I played other than this one were two newbie games.

[Lavender]

Oh...I didn’t know that.
Yeah I’m basically a VT now.
PE: If they clarify yeah.
PE2: ...wasn’t it Inexperienced Challenged in the wiki tho?

[Lavender]

Inexperienced Challenge was a classification for over a decade, the classification was abolished a year maybe less ago. Your first 2 newbie games should have had a few SEs, back before that each game had an IC which has to have more experience and ability to teach than an SE.

It has always been awkward that IC is an abbreviation for both Innocent Child and Inexperience Challenged but now that the latter has been abolished I just greedily enjoy the 10ish character save. It's not too hard to figure out that I must not be referring to a discontinued experience requirement.

Huh, didn’t know that. Alright then.

[Lavender]

Lavender idk if this game was the best segue out of the newbie queue but ms.net is a great website hope you stay

>_< probably not, but it sounded fun!
And it is, I will be staying for quite a while since Mafia is a very fun game \o/

[Lavender]

You guys are spitting out posts faster than I can finish one. Orz

[Lavender]

I guess you're right.

Again the weirder part of that claim is not claiming day 1 which still makes me think that it's a completely bullshit claim to begin with. Any alignment would have outright said that. People have outed themselves for masonries and vig shots, but a person that can make EVERYONE win doesn't? This is a joke.

Plus the outlook that lavender is trying to give here is a newbie that just came out of the newbie queue like, I would expect this kind of person to shout as hard as possible they can make everyone win post 1.

I think someone fed them this fakeclaim and that Ausuka did this to try and get a member of the scumteam as a conftown and a "never vigged" spot or something like that. But again scums must have a roleblocker/doc at this point so I am not really sure what to think of this.
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Let me explain why I didn't claim.
The main reason was simple, to see if they would post without me saying anything, as well as getting scum to kill someone else other than me if they didn't post anything.
I didn't know they weren't active in like 5 years. If I did I really would have claimed outright, since I was basically VT.

[Lavender]

To elaborate on the scum killing me, I thought I could claim Day 2 and get them to post. Which sadly, I can't do as I found out...

[Lavender]

Here's the thing, there are two possibilities at play here:

either you're not lying and you're effectively a "confirmed" slot which is basically useless see I only see you beetlejuicing around which will not win town the game, since every time you post it's self centered and you don't actually interact with players beyond that

either you are completely bullshitting and your partners made you come up with a claim that would not get you lynched ever

so you know

Eh, I do interact. By asking questions, talking to them and stuff. Am I not? I haven't really done anything important though...Ah...how should I interact with players more?

To elaborate on the scum killing me, I thought I could claim Day 2 and get them to post. Which sadly, I can't do as I found out...

but why day 2 as opposed to day 1

i don't buy that you get a role saying "town wins if 2 players post", don't realize that there's no chance of them posting, and then don't claim that day 1 when everyone else is claiming things.
if you were scared of them killing you, they can just as easily kill you night 2 but you had a chance of dying night 1.

At the time I didn't know who they were and didn't know they didn't appear in a while. I also asked if I should claim, because I wasn't sure if they wanted me too. In hindsight I should have been more confident and just claimed.
Not too scared of them killing me anymore since I'm basically useless now. Practically, it would count as a contribution to town if they kill me now.

[Lavender]

Eh, I do interact. By asking questions, talking to them and stuff. Am I not? I haven't really done anything important though...Ah...how should I interact with players more?

You only interact when it concerns you. That's not scumhunting and that's scummy.

I mean, how else should I interact?

[Lavender]

What you said is also a big contradiction with your usual game. I looked at your literal first game when you had a bigger grasp on the game AS A VT. Now you claim you are "completely useless".

This is just a weird departure from what I've seen of you so far.

pedit: look at your first game on here and look at your posts in this game and you will see what I am talking about

I guess I'm really not putting that much effort here...in my first game I could read through everything without getting confused.
In this one I just get confused and unsure of what to ask, that I just react to things pointed at me. In the other game, there were other VT's, but in this one there are so many more active PR's that I just don't feel as I could make 'that' huge a difference. Not really a good excuse to not help fellow townies though...
I'll try not to be as self-centered here and next-time.
PE: Tbh, in my scumgame I was moving a lot and didn't have that much time to mull over the details. Which effected my performance a lot.

[Lavender]

|.o) GG