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Why is my townness connected to yours?In post 568, Creature wrote:
If I flip town do you promise to locktown Delta and LUV?In post 536, Blake Belladonna wrote:It's just Creature and LUV though. They know they can't win without lynching me this game.- TDC
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That is the same statement with different words.In post 575, Creature wrote:
Based on gamestate. Like, wouldn't be surprised if there contained no scum in it.In post 574, TDC wrote:
Why is my townness connected to yours?In post 568, Creature wrote:
If I flip town do you promise to locktown Delta and LUV?In post 536, Blake Belladonna wrote:It's just Creature and LUV though. They know they can't win without lynching me this game.- TDC
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Alright,
first off, reading this in one swoop is a pain
Saudade appears to be a level A shit poster, so I will need to rely on people who have played with him before to say whether this is more shitty than usual.
Buying MJL's claim.
nom probably town.
Not sure about Cheeky.
LUVs defence of MJL post-claim seemed a bit over the top, but nothing that really worries me.
Really don't like Blake
- the whole "I am so good in this, you don't want to lynch me or we are doooooomed" is super annoying. I'm not sure whether she is really that pretentious or if this is just a very poor appeal to emotion.
- the interaction with skitter is super weird, I can totally see where nom is coming from on this and thought the same thing while reading. Could easily be scum trying to distance, going a bit too far and panicking. The coordinated push for creature is pretty weak.
- why would you hope for me to be sane (which I interpret as a player who posts and plays in a coherent way), as per your "PoE" I am highly likely scum and you need to lynch me?
skitter: I need you to explain why a) Blake vs. LUV contains scum b) you are voting creature instead of one of them
- skitter looks bad due to the blake think (see above)
- I also didn't like how she went after nom in the beginning. Voted nom, strongly sided with MJL (maybe not quite as strongly as LUV), but the attack on nom seemed more like testing the waters than real to me. Other than saudade, nom seems to be someone who might be lynched quickly.
No clear opinion on creature from his posts, but the way his wagon is composed, I would think town for now.- TDC
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In post 261, Blake Belladonna wrote:That's fine.
I really just need a reason to throw Saudade into the strong town pile (I think he's town atm but I'm not very confident in that) and/or 1-2 more slots outside of my current townpool for me to have the game mostly PoEd out, I think.
I will go into the Skitter/LUV dynamic and why I think that's never TvT if I have to, but I'd like to see what the slots in question think beforehand.In post 484, Blake Belladonna wrote:
By the way, this is completely NAI for me, if not a slight town tell.In post 470, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah Ank is weirding me out. She seems too aware of the gamestate/consensus reads and seems to be playing around them.In post 485, Blake Belladonna wrote:As an addition to the above, I have to play this way regardless of alignment.
Town!me needs to play around the consensus because I believe there is scum within that consensus, and I don't have enough credibility to blitz through and remove LUV from it solo.
Scum!me needs to find a way to replace the consensus that exists with one that includes enough potential mislynches to have a shot at winning the game with. This is sketchy if for no other reason than who exactly am I scum with if I'm using this strategy?
If you post something that starts with "I have enough charisma", there is no way to exaggerate.In post 496, Blake Belladonna wrote:Wouldn't it just be easier to just play the town's paranoia instead of doing this song and dance around you specifically?
I have enough charisma to avoid the lynch for day one and you dying would not be weird at all for anybody to make, why play around you specifically and box myself into this in the process when I don't have to?
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I mean my slot was in your 4 player scum short list, so it should be highly relevant for you to find out whether I'm scum (if I understand your skills correctly, this is the missing piece of puzzle to solve the game), so my first thoughts on the game should be highly interesting for you, but instead you just wonder about other people's perception of you.- TDC
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I would appreciate something more explicit. What part of his play crosses from shit to scum?In post 617, CheekyTeeky wrote:Guys saudade is scum can we please just lynch him please. I'm going to be mad if he endgames doing nothing because you all were too busy bickering amongst yourselves to notice he's openwolfing.- TDC
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Why hop to Saudade then? And don't tell me anything about pressure.In post 671, Blake Belladonna wrote:So uh.
I took a step back and rethought my reads out again and watched the last couple pages.
I'm still not entirely sure why the scumteam isn't just Creature + Lil Uzi Vert?- TDC
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Please be more specific. If LUV is town, why is Blake scum?In post 664, skitter30 wrote:
a) i don't know how to answer besides saying that their interaction wrt me and blake's entrance and luv vote didn't feel tvt- TDC
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I have tried to go through the Saudade isos, as painful as that is. Maybe he is a bit more committed to his reads as town, but I'm still not feeling anything for his play here one way or the other.In post 675, skitter30 wrote:
oh no, you caught us! whatever shall we do!In post 644, Creature wrote:
Yep, I already had you and skitter as the scumteam.In post 642, CheekyTeeky wrote:For now that's my sister in crime
I can see cheeky tunelling on him like that, but would honestly suggest to just avoid games with him in the future..- TDC
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Why only one?In post 734, nomnomnom wrote:
It doesn't make sense. This is scum reasoning. One of you is scum. And I'll find which one it is.- TDC
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I'm not sure how I feel about skitter town Blake scum right now. The way Blake dropped her like a hot potato when she said he meta changed was strange to me.In post 755, CheekyTeeky wrote:So if one in skitter/blake are town, then both are town?- TDC
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Your read on Cheeky is kind of important. I will accept a one liner.
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Alright. Will need to reread the beginning.In post 818, skitter30 wrote:Town based on tone + progression + how she's pushing her scumreads
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To be honest, the way Cheeky played it is probably far from optimal town play, but I don't see it as viable scum play though, because in a micro they would obv. go down in any mass cliam scenario that doesn't add up. Also I find it hard to believe skitter would try to coach her as she did in broad daylight (the it's not a town tel for me when cheaky initially justified her town read).
Balance wise I'm with Nom, I think we might be looking at three scum here, though not necessarily a group of three.- TDC
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How do you know? We have a claimed Miller.In post 1103, Blake Belladonna wrote:Because scum have daytalk too, TDC. Town also probably has no real power other than the mason pair.- TDC
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Just to make sure we are all on the same page here. This is the post where Cheeky soft claimed Mason (not sure if intentionally)In post 747, CheekyTeeky wrote:Because reasons. That's why.- TDC
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I have a message from skitter, although not sure what the point is, because Cheeky could have conveyed her opinion just as well.
She had a strong town read of mjl and me
Probably town nom
Unsure saudade and luv
Probably scum blake
She thought Blake was trying to pocket her and didn't like the hammer.
She was also still convinced Blake/LUV is not tvt.
There is also a comment about the setup, I will not go into atm.- TDC
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No. But you know one slot who is conf town..In post 1337, MaryJoLisa wrote:Did Skitter tell you to tell me who to sheep?- TDC
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Maybe I'm missing something here. But why is it not blake and saudade?In post 1338, nomnomnom wrote:The only thing I'm trying to work out is who is Blake's partner if she is scum. And honestly my mind goes to TDC and MJL. The other possibility is that it's saudade and that she banks on town losing on F3.
So what I propose is that we lynch blake today. If she flips scum we need to lynch MJL because the miller claim is still fucking around with my mind. If she doesn't, Saudade must be scum in every scenario.- TDC
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Please explain so someone who has essentially no idea about site meta can understand.In post 1346, nomnomnom wrote:Plus now that we have confirmed masons the miller claim seems incredibly more dubious.- TDC
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Why not?In post 1351, nomnomnom wrote: Mason and miller go together as well as apples and oranges. Why put a single miller in a game where there are high chances where masons are likely to be the only REAL power of town? Especially when one of the masons happens to be a mailman on top of that?- TDC
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I think any role with synergies with the masons would be really overpowered, so I don't get the problem.In post 1355, nomnomnom wrote:
Because there is no inherent synergy between the roles? I know that nonsensical miller spots happen but like, it should be obvious as to why these roles don't go too well together in terms of themeIn post 1354, TDC wrote:
Why not?In post 1351, nomnomnom wrote: Mason and miller go together as well as apples and oranges. Why put a single miller in a game where there are high chances where masons are likely to be the only REAL power of town? Especially when one of the masons happens to be a mailman on top of that?- TDC
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No I think you are town. There was a not missing in the post which I corrected in the next one.In post 1427, nomnomnom wrote:He's pushing a Blake/Me team... despite us being blatantly non-SvS....
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