Mini Normal 2073: ~ramblings~ (game over)

[Flavor Leaf]

Roleblocker was never discarded. Even if you’re town, I think there’s probably a Roleblocker still.

We just went through an analysis stating giving scum a roleblocker would underpowered town.

Well, I think that’s wrong.

There’s a mason, a loyal FV, a disloyal FV. Scum NEED something like a Roleblocker.

A full Roleblocker is probably too strong for town, but it’s all just WIFOM.

Or an Ascetic.

Which again, I have already brought up.

Why would the mod have two town roles that do the same purpose?

Yet you were pushing a a Complex/Simple combination for scum having the same thing?

I literally claimed first.

And I don’t bus. This setup’s basis is the Disloyal/Loyal FV pairing. With complex to disrupt. It’s for fruit WIFOM.

I also have a proven meta that I don’t bus, so if you think I needlessly push Vorkuta like I did, you’re scum. Simple as that.

It looks like you’re trying hard to set me up for the day to allow a partner of yours, probably Skellen, sweep until end game.

I see a bit of “scum is underpowered” whine with you too.

[Flavor Leaf]

You pushed DEB, and I shot that down. That means you HAVE to go for me, out your partner, or get every single other player on DEB.

[Flavor Leaf]

You pushed DEB, and I shot that down. That means you HAVE to go for me, out your partner, or get every single other player on DEB.

This wasn’t entirely correct. Almost every town member has to join up. 1 doesn’t have to.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve literally just been sitting here waiting all day for scum to pull the trigger and commit to a push on me.

Sky
DEB
Unah
Zulfy
Titus
Skellen

Is where I’m at.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: DEB

Kinda here atm. I want to see scum's move tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Deb’s town because he’s VT and super inactive.

He was also being setup as today’s mislynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Scum are always out to get me.

I WIFOM scum so hard.

Vorkuta is flipped scum which means I was hard on scum’s radar.

Unah’s got town equity because I’ve never seen him not interact with me a lot when he’s scum. He always tries to like talk me into something or seeing something his way when he’s scum.

He tries to pocket me. He hasn’t done that here. Unah’s town. He did this on HitAlt vs me as well.

Then I shot him in the face with my Vig shot.

DEB hates VT, and I don’t see him setting up literally anything. He barely knew what was going on the last day phase.

Scum are in You, Zulfy, Skellen.

Unless I’m next level pocketed by Unah.

[Flavor Leaf]

Unless I’m next level pocketed by Unah.

This is actually possible, but like...yeah. I’m not gonna get out of that, but I’m aware that it could be happening somehow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Deb’s town because he’s VT and super inactive.

He was also being setup as today’s mislynch.

Deb being town because inactive?

Also, how was he being setup? Scum cannot predict my VCA. None of these slots have that level of familiarity with me.

This sounds like grasping at straws.

Yes. You do sound like you’re grasping at straws.

Creature’s death and yesterday.

Why are you conveniently forgetting about previous days?

[Flavor Leaf]

If you’re pushing me as scum for “grasping at straws”, I can put together a more elaborate scum case as scum than I can as town, because I go very tin foil like flip floppy non committal when I’m town.

So that falls flat.

I can see townTitus pushing me here, for what it’s worth. I just wanna see other people and their reactions too

[Flavor Leaf]

Why should scum flail or lurk?

I would never flail in that scenario. I might lurk, but I’d never flail. I don’t think that helps them out. They have to play extra careful.

Why does the previous days not matter? I hard disagree with that sentiment as the majority of my town game is connecting the pieces from all the days together.

If something was townie early on, it could retroactively become scummy later in the game when the chain of actions is longer.

I say this a lot, but it’s super true. I’m nearing a solve, but there’s just some WIFOM’y questions within Zulfy’s alignment.

I should probably do more of a deep ISO.

Creature’s death matters. Night kills ALWAYS matter, regardless of if you can figure out why or not. Scum just don’t randomly pick a kill.

[Flavor Leaf]

How am I flailing at all? I’m just countering your posts.

That being said, I never flail as scum, so I’m actually scum casing myself by countering that, but yeah.

It’s just my posting style people think is flailing, but it’s just usually me making counter arguments.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, how is DEB objectively the best lynch when I see him as town?

Lynching scum is the best lynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your path just allows scum Zulfy or Scum You to win.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m very aware of how it sounds, but it’s exactly what’s happening.

He flips VT, then what? This is essentially a PL. should I just allow it to happen when I feel like my reasoning for town reading the slot is correct?

Like I get why you’re pushing him.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think it’s Unah/Titus

[Flavor Leaf]

Zulfy being scum throws a wrench in that, I guess.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why go Sky over one of Skellen/DEB?

If no fruit is seen on Skellen/DEB, then the team is confirmed not to be any combination of said target, Unah, and Titus unless there is a roleblocker

So i guess that doesn’t actually clear, but it’s the best course.

The worst part will be the WIFOM of Zulfy lying about whichever results.

[Flavor Leaf]

But an Inno confirms a non pairing of target/Titus target/Unah Titus/Unah unless there’s a Roleblocker.

Even if there is an rb, i expect them to be gated.

I’m leaning Titus/Unah, so if that gives us an inno, it probably settles that.

And if Zulfy gets a guilty we have a 50/50 chance of figuring out if he’s lying or not

[Flavor Leaf]

Can’t tell if Zulfy is distancing from DEB or not, or if he’s trying to set DEB up as scum...

I want to start leaning the ladder, though, because I really think DEB is just town.

I really don’t see a world where one of Titus/Zulfy isn’t scum tbh.

I was leaning towards Skellen/Unah, but I feel a lynch would have happened by now.

I guess Unah’s been mia, though. Idk if that’s scum indicative. It might be.

[Flavor Leaf]

We already had Una last night, and Titus the night before.

It’s Zulfy/Una, Titus/Una, Titus/Skellen, or Zulfy/Skellen. If I didn’t see DEB as town, then DEB/Zulfy would be the front runner.

Why do people not see that if they aren’t town reading DEB?

[Flavor Leaf]

I think we kill Skellen, check DEB.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because then we have confirmation in a Roleblocker or Zulfy lying.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Skellen flips scum, that just eases my Vorkuta-Skellen interactions, and I think the final scum is probably Titus in that scenario.

[Flavor Leaf]

Fuck. Unah knows how to pocket me. Check that sig.

VOTE: Skellen

@Zulfy - Targeting DEB.

[Flavor Leaf]

That feeling when you wanna town read Una because they didn’t mention you enough, and he always interacts and tries pocketing me, but you wanna scum read him because he didn’t mention you enough and you think he’s trying a new tactic.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean, in theory, Skellen/Deb are he only unchecked players.

It could just be Occam’s Razor and it’s them, but yeah, i think they’re both probably town and it’s Titus/Unah.

[Flavor Leaf]

We got 4 of us here? Wow okay.

[Flavor Leaf]

If Zulfy or Una is scum, they’re waiting for someone else to join on before they do.

PEdit:

Well, ninja’d.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor who are you targeting

Skellen or DEB. I have no preference.

[Flavor Leaf]

More curious as to which of the 2 you’d pick.

Una, you here?

[Flavor Leaf]

Meh. I think Titus is scum and I still get a bad feeling about it.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Titus

Una disappearing after we talked about this makes me feel like I’m right with my solve.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think I expect this to go through until right near deadline, if even then. We’re gonna end up random lynching someone

[Flavor Leaf]

We’re at an impasse. Literally any case we make on anyone here is WIFOM.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like I said, Titus, Una is my solve.

[Flavor Leaf]

That actually wasn’t in response to you, it was in response to Una.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think Skellen is scum, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'll hammer Titus if it's the only viable alternative to Skellen today.

It’s Titus or Skellen today. I guess in theory DEB’s an option, but we make him talk tomorrow.

[Flavor Leaf]

Now we wait.

[Flavor Leaf]

With the way you and Una handled the Titus wagon?

I thought Una as scum would kill me last night, but Una also has a tendency to wanna try and keep me alive.

Una/Zulfy is the solve.

[Flavor Leaf]

My best guess is there’s a gated Roleblocker who blocked me when I targeted a scum. Any town that was targeted I didn’t need to be blocked.

I guess Zulfy/DEB never got checked, but I still think DEB is town based on the VT claim/attitude.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah. One

[Flavor Leaf]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79544

He did post heavy Day 1 then lurk out the rest of the game

[Flavor Leaf]

Yea I can dig it. I can virtually read the mafia PT already with FL and Vork discussing with Easy Bake shitposting out of nervousness

Why does Vorkuta make me lose my conftown status then?

[Flavor Leaf]

And it's either scum!Boon, or the scumteam are arrogant enough to leave him alive until this point.

They had two conftown slots to deal with tbf

Lol, @Zulfy defending his night kill choice.

I still think I should be conftown because of SS’s fruit, but yeah. Vorkuta made sure that didn’t go through.

[Flavor Leaf]

Nah, Vorkuta has zero reason to ever target me as scum complex FV.

I had already claimed at that point.

[Flavor Leaf]

You skated by on a Day 1 claim and went along with targets, and you chose Skellen, who if town is probably conf town too, but Zulfy/Skellen has some equity, and I don’t necessarily think SS did target him, but I digress.

I thought Skellen was really townie yesterday, and DEB’s VT seems genuine.

It’s Zulfy/Una, and y’all just knew never to claim fruit ever.

[Flavor Leaf]

Una is town.

You've been claiming I'm scum for a long time without ever really pushing a wagon on me

This is a misrep. I actually haven’t.

I’ve said you could be scum, and I have been going over the possibility of every slot, not just yours, so I don’t know why you’re only bringing that up.

You went from DEB, to Skellen, to Titus yesterday, if I remember correctly. You were trying to get any mislynch you could except yours or Una’s.

[Flavor Leaf]

Something has never beaten my scum game, and he doesn’t misread me when I am scum.

Something saw that I was town.

I don’t even understand what youre saying there?

You’re claiming that I made sure that my partner’s fruit didn’t go through? You realize Vorkuta sheeps me relentlessly when I’m town, right? Why wouldn’t that happen if we were scum together. Vorkuta was making sure I didn’t get town read all game, and scum knew my fruit didn’t go through to SS because you knew he was town.

And because of Vorkuta’s role, they knew he was a PR, so you killed him off to get town cred for Vorkuta and you knew for a fact he was town PR.

He was also town reading me, and you can’t have SS and FL townblocking.

[Flavor Leaf]

Creature also called you out as probably being the Dr. Dolittle of this game, meaning an early claim that you coast with, but just late scum.

This is very similar to when DDL was killed off too, as the second scum dead.

Also, he pushed Skellen/DEB as probably scum, so you killed there to frame them, and that’s why you went after DEB yesterday for a bit then Skellen.

And then Skygazer saw you were scum, so you killed there.

Tbf, you’re right. They were mason.

I bet Una wanted to kill me anyways.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’ve said you could be scum, and I have been going over the possibility of every slot, not just yours, so I don’t know why you’re only bringing that up.

You haven't

I spent most of yesterday pushing Skellen, not you, and I then went on stating I thought the team was Titus/Una, so yes. I haven’t.

This is blatant misrepping.

[Flavor Leaf]

So yes, I have* auto correct.

But yeah, I was pushing Titus/Una yesterday. And you guys got the Titus lynch you wanted.

Scratch that, you got the Titus lynch you needed.

Look at Una’s hammer.

I felt it there. You 2 were just waiting for me to open up to voting here so you could push me as a mislynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would titus flip change my Una read?

I don’t ever think I’m wrong on both of my reads this late in the game, and they were both associative and individual reads.

VOTE: Zulfy

Who’s my partner then?

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m 100% positive that Zulfy/Una is the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

Una’s been trying to make sure I’m setup to be mislynched and has been trying not to do his normal scum tells when playing against me, DEB wanted my blood when I even considered him as scum, and Skellen I was pushing wasn’t conf town based on I think vorkuta just faked SS’s fruit.

Vorkuta completely played to make sure I was setup for a mislynch this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Intent to vote, FL?

Titus wagon was an absolute panic wagon. No planning went into it. Not the best scum alley of rationalization to go down through

Only scum want the intent here for projecting.

Random guessing gives me 50/50 chances at hitting scum. And I town read DEB and Skellen, so yeah.

There’s no need to Intent for me because there’s no chance scum wins off this because you and Una are the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

Intent to vote, FL?

Titus wagon was an absolute panic wagon. No planning went into it. Not the best scum alley of rationalization to go down through

I disagree that there wasn’t planning on it.

You guys just didn’t want DEB/Skellen because you’d be able to get objectively caught out if one of them were killed. You were waiting for Titus and I to go at it, but we never really did.

[Flavor Leaf]

Titus cleared Unah in her mind FL

That’s why I thought she was scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Una - If I’m wrong and you’re actually town, don’t vote me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Una please vote FL it conf scums him

No it doesn’t...lol.

That would just mean both scum are voting me.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Skellen/DEB - you need to get in here

[Flavor Leaf]

Una please vote FL it conf scums him

No it doesn’t...lol.

That would just mean both scum are voting me.

Alright so it doesnt confirmmmm, but it does highly point in that direction

This is a perspective slip.

From your point of view, if you were town, it would confirm me as scum.

The fact you said highly points in that direction means you are looking at things from a scum perspective.

You are caught out scum.

Get THIRD DEGREE BOON’D!

Should have listened to Una and killed me.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact you said highly points in that direction means you are looking at things from a scum perspective.

It actually does the exact opposite.

No, lol.

If you were town and voting me, and Una voted me, and if I didn’t get hammered, I would be conf scum from your perspective.

You said highly points. That is a SLIP!

You are caught scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like me thinking it conf scums you in the first place was cuz I was taking my towniness for granted in my head.

Cuz I forgot I'm not conf town, just confirmed townie to myself. Cuz I'm town.

Town never take their townieness for granted here. As town, half of the other players alive are scum.

You slipped up, and now you’re trying to back pedal.

[Flavor Leaf]

It's either a scum win today or a DEB/Skellen/Una LYLO tomorrow with 1 conftown. We can agree on that at least.

This is a setup to allow Una to win in lylo by not killing me if Zulfy goes down and Una gets to make the “I would 100% kill FL here.”

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think i’ve EVER Said backpedaling as either alignment.

[Flavor Leaf]

Zulfy is constantly misrepping.

I’m actually not 100% positive on that last one, but the fact that I don’t even recall ever saying backpedaling would be just another misrep by zulfy

[Flavor Leaf]

???? One of us is scum bro, the other is town. Otherwise the lynch would have gone through already on either one.

This is a manipulation tactic, and a TMI that means his scum partner Una likely checked in, and was lurking.

This is blatantly untrue because nobody else has checked in, which means you know something that we don’t.

This is a Freudian slip.

[Flavor Leaf]

Remember when he said I'm scum cuz the nipple guy didnt want to play lol.

That’s not what I said at all. I clearly stated that Flippynips probably was active lurking and didn’t post, but thought he checked in, and this got replaced because he thought he had checked in.

This is yet another misrep.

[Flavor Leaf]

Zulfy is playing in a way where all his posts are essentially him trying to convince me that I’m scum rather than convince you guys, which is a common subconscious scum play.

It forces me to go into a defending spree based on his misreps.

[Flavor Leaf]

What am i projecting?

I have barely even been talking about myself, I’ve mainly been explaining why you are scum.

That is yet another misrep.

[Flavor Leaf]

The fact that you continuously come after me shows you are setting up a mislynch because the longer this goes, the towniest you come off of it because you just misrep me the entire game.

You also don’t go in and talk about any interactions. You don’t talk about any vote patterns. None of that, because it shows that you are scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Una - If I’m wrong on you, and you are town, please see that I am town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm coming after you cuz I know I'm town and therefore am sure you're scum.

After I told you that’s how you have to see it

[Flavor Leaf]

?? What do you mean? That’s a slip on your part. You’re caught scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Your posts don’t even make any sense. I feel like you’re just saying random things with semi aggression and opting something bites.

[Flavor Leaf]

There’s plenty of reasons why you’re scum that I’ve posted already. You’re trying to have me convince you that you are scum, but that’s just not how town thinks.

You messed up with the wording of your results.

Your voting habits yesterday mixed in with being the catalyst to get Titus with Una.

And you’ve been setting me up and abusing our combined targets, which essentially puts doubt on my claim, even though i was the first FV to claim this game, and I could never have known Something was Loyal.

Something even gave me the out to say I was just a regular fruit vendor, and he didn’t.

Then I got a fruit the next night, and Vorkuta was waiting for everyone to claim so he could have me unconfirmed. Something Smart is probably annoyed people listened to that.

Creature called you out as DDL 2.0 from CatArt, which we explained what that was, so that’s why you killed Creature over Skygazer on top of that to incriminate Skellen/DEB, who you are pushing as a partner.

You were also on the first lynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

That’s just off the top of my head

[Flavor Leaf]

Votecount 1.21 (Final)

(1) Vorkuta - Titus
(1) Zulfy - Baezu
(LYNCH) Baezu - Something_Smart, Skellen, Creature, Zulfy, Ausuka, James Brafin, Skygazer
(4) Skygazer - Flavor Leaf, HitAlt, Vorkuta, Dr Easy Bake

(0) Not Voting -

With

13

alive, it's

7

to lynch.

Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-05-16 13:00:00)

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Scum is on this wagon. Titus was on Vorkuta which was scum slot. Baezu was on you.

And while you were getting pushed, you just happened to be on Baezu?

This was a Town/Town counterwagon between Baezu and Skygazer, and YOUR wagon is the one that dissipated.

If you’re saying DEB/Myself/Vorkuta is the scum team, then you are straight up pushing that there is no scum on Baezu, which frankly is just not what happened there due to Wagonomics 101.

Skellen-Zulfy are the only 2 people alive who were on this wagon.

Skellen I’m reading as town. You are scum on that wagon.

This does make me a little paranoia of Skellen again, just because I feel like more scum should be on that wagon, but there’s no chance that you are town here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Ausuku and SS both townread me so lynching them would have been idiotic btw.

That’s why you killed them, not lynched them.

They both town read me too, so idk what you’re trying to push there.

[Flavor Leaf]

3308 is you just quoting random posts of mine then not even commenting on them.

[Flavor Leaf]

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=79544

He did post heavy Day 1 then lurk out the rest of the game

This doesn't ease anything. Isn't that basically exactly that what he has been doing this game?

Yeah, that was me essentially saying he did basically the same thing.

It like a “I mean, yes, he is fitting his scum meta...but I still think his early VT claim was genuine.” If that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t think Skellen sides leaning towards town reading me here as scum.

It’s just Una/Zulfy.

Zulfy is even setting up distancing from Una.

[Flavor Leaf]

I personally don’t think Zulfy’s the type of player to fake a guilty over playing it safe.

He essentially did the guilty ploy by trying to turn it on me instead of you.

Him guiltying you, means he has to rely on me not thinking he is scum faking it, which I obviously would have probably went Zulfy anyways after he just magically gets a guilty here.

I believe you brought that up, though

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, Zulfy/Una pounced on that. I saw it somewhat during even, but I doubted it because I thought Titus/Una was the solve and that i was overthinking.

I didn’t think Una was going to hammer.

They really didn’t want you 2 to be the lynch, so i don’t think that ever would have gone through. We’d have ended up no lynching probably, and lost the mason for free, and been in 6p mylo here, which idk if that’s a better spot except we could have no lynched again.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn’t think Una was going to hammer.

You didnt think Una was going to hammer the L1 with hours left in the day?

No, because I thought Titus/Una was the scum team. I’ve said that.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lol @Zulfy’s flailing

[Flavor Leaf]

Lynch Zulfy, I’ll die tonight. Lynch Una. Prosper.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Zulfy - inb4 DEB/Una scum team. LOLOLOLOLLOLLOLOLLOL

[Flavor Leaf]

Lynch Zulfy, I’ll die tonight. Lynch Una. Prosper.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skellen and I are confirmed not a team.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m not empty posting, I’m about to hit 700 posts this game.

This game is just solved as Zulfy/Una

[Flavor Leaf]

And then I went to sleep

[Flavor Leaf]

He’s pushing you and me as the scum team, DEB.

[Flavor Leaf]

Because you were making sure not to say that.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Skellen - I’m not scum, I don’t really have much else to say right now. I’ve said everything

[Flavor Leaf]

It’s you and Una.

[Flavor Leaf]

Idk what that’s supposed to do. You literally put Skellen and I as a potential scum team

[Flavor Leaf]

Yes it is.

I’ve been saying like ALL game I thought one of you and Titus were scum.

How does it make sense to do anything different?

I also town read DEB/Skellen.

[Flavor Leaf]

Idk what that’s supposed to do. You literally put Skellen and I as a potential scum team

Read the whole post tho

If Zulfy thought I was scum, there’s no point to him saying this trying to convince me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m objectively and essentially mechanically town.

Yeah, yeH, you need your partner to show up to vote DEB, and then Skellen is forced to make a choice

[Flavor Leaf]

Idk what that’s supposed to do. You literally put Skellen and I as a potential scum team

Read the whole post tho

If Zulfy thought I was scum, there’s no point to him saying this trying to convince me.

This is the sneaky shit he keeps pulling. I'll find more examples of it, if you say some stupid shit I'm gonna reply with the answer to it.

I’m not even gonna deny that, but I do that as town. It’s my Third Degree Boon.

[Flavor Leaf]

I catch scum up with it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like if you READ THE WHOLE POST then you know I know he's scum, that accusing reply is inane.

I mean, you don’t. And it’s clear. And yet you still chose to keep skellen as an option.

[Flavor Leaf]

LOL I can't quite tell if this is the scum team bussing each other super hard to throw us on one of them and not the other, if Zulfy has been caught and is flailing, or if Flavor has been caught and is (input word that means flailing but in like a good way, not the way Zulfy is).

Teams are confirmed either you and I or Zulfy/Una basically at this point.

For me to be scum, you have to be scum, or game would be done by now.

I feel like Una’s lurking out waiting for Skellen or DEB to switch votes.

[Flavor Leaf]

Deb, he’s just scum trying to get you to trip up so Skellen votes you.

[Flavor Leaf]

About damn time

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m town so, pretty sure this flips scum unless DEB/Una trolled

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m just kidding.

[Flavor Leaf]

I just got nervous, haha

[Flavor Leaf]

Gg scum.

Really shitty to draw it out like that tho

It wasn’t purposeful.

Una just didn’t show up, lol

[Flavor Leaf]

We didn’t have daytalk.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wanted to fake guilty Something Smart and then have Vorkuta counter my guilty on him.

That was my plan from Day 1.

[Flavor Leaf]

I thought I was screwed when Vorkuta claimed Multitasking Complex Fruit Vendor Doctor.

I thought of that Night 1, but that’s like a total Flavor fakeclaim, but at the same time, it seemingly fit.

Una and I melded well and just ended up bussing Vorkuta. I generally don’t bus, but I felt it necessary, tbh.

DEB was the biggest issue for me because he was never not gonna scum read me. Luckily we created a gamestate where it made sense for you to push DEB and myself as a team, so he would go you over me.

I thought he still might switch over to me, which is why I had to win over Skellen like I did Day 4.

I also thought I was a little too consistent, which is actually a scum tell of mine, I feel.

[Flavor Leaf]

I wanted to kill SS a night 1, and do the gambit on Ausuka, but we decided to swap it.

Day 1, the three of us circled around Ausuka hard in different directions. Ausuka even mentioned something felt weird, and that was why.

The all 7 town on baezu was nice, with Vorkuta, myself, and Una right on Skygazer right by each other.

[Flavor Leaf]

To be fair, the result thing on your part didn’t matter too much because Vorkuta was a FV, so you would have legit seen fruit either way for the early stuff.

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I’m glad that Una and I just kind of mindmelded on everything.

I felt like it was Una the last game I played with HitAlt, but Una denied it, so I just stopped thinking about it, but like nobody else would meta me the way he was.

Una and I barely communicated with each other directly through this game, but I never really felt the need to have to explain anything to him and vice versa. We both worked with Vorkuta, though, and both chose to bus without holding back.

Glad our first scum game together was a Hit.

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That’s my 3rd scum victory this year.

I’m spent.

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Glad our first scum game together was a Hit.

I already buried that alt.
Also - now you know who gave you your sig.

I already knew who gave you your sig.

They counterout each other.

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Dr Easy bake ain’t undefeated anymore

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Oh, yeah, Never was gonna leave Creature alive, even if there weren’t any masons.

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I really don't understand how anyone managed to arrive at the conclusion that Vork was scum and Boon was town.

Like, yeah it was a weird play as scum/scum... but Vork clearly understood the ramifications of his claim. There's no reason he would ever pass up back-to-back mislynches on me and Boon if Boon were town

To be fair, this also requires Vorkuta to have to actively push that, which as town, I don’t think he would have gotten me in that scenario because he’d have to actively convince people that i would essentially be killing myself just to kill you instead of just me killing you off during the night.

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Una and I were goons, and we had no daytalk.

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I also don’t think anybody could have actively argued that, especially because I really don’t think Vorkuta and I had scum/scum interactions as I legit felt I was arguing with him for a good amount.

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Who’d you target the night you died, SS?

Vorkuta targeting me was the backup plan in case someone obviously got your fruit.

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I don’t believe town played poorly at all besides DEB’s vote maybe, but at the same time, I had been setting that up for a couple days now, and the hardest part for me in this game was DEB coming to vote me anyways, so my plan was to get Zulfy to go against DEB as hard as I could.

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Yeah, I feel ScumVorkuta actually tries to pocket us both rather than attempt to mislynch us.

Last time he got screwed.

@Vorkuta - I wanted to figure out a way to tell you not to claim that, I think I did the Vorkie thing, but it worked out. We already decided to bus.

I think it helped us a lot with your flip, though.

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Idk. I still think ScumVorkuta would have done that if we were T/T.

At the very least, I don’t think that’s a hard WIFOM case for me to create and get people believing within the game.

@Vork - I think you played the twilight correctly. We won without losing another member, and Titus cleared Una from being scum.

I think Una and I had association tells, but even if we were TVS we would have had those based on obvious planting between the two of us against each other.

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The play played out exactly as it did in my head, and Vorkuta claiming to Fruit me made a big separation in general that protected from pushing us as S/S ever.

I guess I didn’t really try to figure out ever exactly who you targeted because frankly it didn’t matter too much.

We had Vorkuta to claim who he gave his fruit to to counteract it, and if nobody else claimed it, then I thought there was a good chance one of us were targeted.

I claimed it, so I wanted to really believe that i got it, so Itunneled myself into that.

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not butthurt not butthurt not butthurt not butthurt

also uh.... why did half the cast replace out?

To be fair, most of the replacements happened Day 1, not gonna Count Una.

I wanna read the dead pt. Was it poppin or nah?

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It’s complicated enough where I could have spouted NAI bs to WIFOM counter it, at the very least.

Vorkuta was doing the play, and didn’t even understand it.

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Una brought up claiming Loyal FV. glad that didn’t happen.

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Also @Bins can you release my confessional please

Mine as well

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so zulfy for realz this time

What was your result PM "verbatim"?
Or was this kinda not really normal?

Well, to be fair, we asked about it prior to any of that happening, and had it covered no matter what way it went.

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Yeah, that was something. I thought you were going to be like a Tracker or something.

In my personal thread, I looked into your stuff a lot, and thought you were trying to get me to retract my disloyal FV for a regular FV, then turn it on me like you tracked me, or something like that.

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I mean, you’re 1-1 now

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Fair. Haha. I thought about retracting when you gave me the out, but since we had a plan for that exact thing, i just thought it was safer to stick with.

It was kind of funny because we go over it very precisely in the PT the night before because we won’t be able to coach at all if it came down to it, and then stated “none of this matters if he isn’t a PR”

Then you claimed the fruit, and I was like, “well, here goes”

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Gg. Thanks for modding Binsy.

I liked the rambles, I’m gonna do one of those eventually now.

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Do we know when we’ll get the dead pt?

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What a ride

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No, not really. Creature was never gonna be mislynched regardless, he was always being planned as the next night kill.

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Yep.

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Good reads. I liked Vorkuta’s saltiness.

@Something - Seems people forgot that it doesn’t matter to just scum read me, you gotta get me lynched.

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Day 1 we also gaslighted you pretty hard. You were like the focus of all of our conversations, and we were coming at you from different angles.

And then we were aware of Titus VCA, and we did the same, and legit went crazy Moonlogic to ever shut her down if the need came.

I guess we didn’t explain that stuff to Vorkuta too well, but Una and I have been waiting for this moment for years to be scum together.

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Haha, you replaced into the slot I was in a do nothing 1v1 with and I couldn’t just flip flop on it, and couldn’t let you town run the place.

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I tried killing you Night 1, but I lost that fight in the scum thread.

I wanted to do the gambit on Ausuka, haha