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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:37 pm

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VOTE COUNT 1.12
teacher (4):
Cinnamon, Saladman27, nomnomnom, Nero Cain
Vorkuta (3):
skitter30, Dunnstral, teacher
nomnomnom (1):
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Detective Pikachu (1):
NerfedBuJ
NerfedBuJ (1):
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EvilDeanius (1):
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:38 pm

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i can see buj sincerely believing that policying the miller claim day before lylo is optimal

(i just saw him park on someone he was townreading because they claimed scum so)
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:38 pm

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wow, that was convenient. I vote right b4 a VC.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:40 pm

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In post 515, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 513, Vorkuta wrote:
In post 511, Dunnstral wrote:I did, in fact, read
then you'll see that scum funaki's slot's predecessor fakeclaimed miller as scum AS WELL
Can you point it out?
This whole line of questioning seems bad. What are you trying to gain from this?

Assuming (because I'm not the one who is going to do the meta fact checking lol), that vorkuta linked a game where town fake claimed miller in his links for games where scum had fake claimed miller

Is that alignment-indicative? if so, why? Because I don't really think it is
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:41 pm

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In post 651, skitter30 wrote:(i just saw him park on someone he was townreading because they claimed scum so)
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:44 pm

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In post 540, NerfedBuJ wrote:Just want to say that I am not exactly confident on my vork townread based on him pinging me early on, but this is the first time I'm the one townreading vork and others are pushing him. Usually I am the only one scumreading him. I know it's very anecdotal and a small sample of games but it's not sitting right with me.
Sorry if being dense, but

It's not sitting right with you that the situation is reversed. okay. What does that imply?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:44 pm

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We already know Dunn is dumb, move on.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:47 pm

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In post 545, NerfedBuJ wrote:So it is strange. Either he is scum's pick for day 1 mislynch or he managed to pocket me despite being even more annoying than usual. (No offence vork it's not you it's just how you post)
I don't like either of those options.
I guess you kind of answered it. I think vorkuta is lynchbait this game a lot of the time. I don't know if it's being pushed by town or by scum rn tho.

Is there another option that you would like better? It's weird to say that you think everything points to these two options but that you don't think either of those options are right
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:49 pm

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In post 548, nomnomnom wrote:Again, this is just town!urap like I know him. I know he doesn't like me delving in turbo games because they are meaningless to him but these games tend to exacerbate someone's tendencies in general, and those tendencies is that scum!urap tends to be a bit more shitposty/passive until he is pushed and will go in "URGH" more really fast. I think that's not the case here.

Skitter also implied that his townread on Vorkuta was outlandish and a reason for the scumread on him but like, I've seen urap make pretty outlandish cases before that definitely attracted my attention, and he happened to be town. I don't know.
marathon games are worthless for meta, and this meta read on me is bad. I don't think I make outlandish cases as either alignment?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:51 pm

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In post 557, EvilDeanius wrote:
In post 550, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 545, NerfedBuJ wrote:Either he is scum's pick for day 1 mislynch
Why would scum pick town!vorkuta as a day 1 mislynch? I mean objectively speaking if you were scum here, wouldn't your mind go towards the more lurk-ish people, where it's easier to make a case on? Because that's definitely easier than to go against a player like vorkuta here.
Because you get the loud/good players out of the way early, so you can mislynch the lurky players later with little resistance. You always try to mislynch/kill those with thread presence early.
Why did you choose to make this the subject of your first post after 10+ pages of content?
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:55 pm

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In post 564, nomnomnom wrote:I guess I'll give Vork this point, it's that people only followed Vork's case when Skitter appeared in the thread and made that case despite me presenting the exact same arguments. THAT is strange.
If Vorkuta is town, would you say that makes skitter town?

Like, is it some combination of scum and town following town skitter? or do you think the same thing happens in a world with scum!skitter?
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:56 pm

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In post 567, nomnomnom wrote:tbh that fact alone means that if vork is actually town, teacher is probably 100% scum here. And even then that kind of observation makes me think that it could be an equally good lynch for today.
wait, why
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:59 pm

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In post 571, nomnomnom wrote:When you have two people making the same case but the one that was made later down the road with the exact same argument has a player joining it simply because it actually took off this time, that's scummy. And that's what teacher did here.
??

you were only voting vorkuta for like 50 posts, and teacher had no posts during that time

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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:05 pm

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In post 606, Saladman27 wrote:Cinn was townlean because of the whole vorkuta reaching fiasco
cinn is town because vorkuta made a reachy scum case against them?
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:07 pm

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saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:08 pm

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ok, why are they townie?
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 664, u r a person 2 wrote:saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think
His first set of reads or his second? or both?
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:09 pm

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In post 634, skitter30 wrote:i think i had townvibes earlier on salad, i kinda lost them
i just went in the opposite direction, so... why? =P
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:10 pm

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i mean that's why i'm asking why you like his reads ... to me they read kinda banal and like the reasons were nonsensical/didn't actually explain the read
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:10 pm

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urap do u think i should be townreading u here?
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 pm

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In post 651, skitter30 wrote:i can see buj sincerely believing that policying the miller claim day before lylo is optimal

(i just saw him park on someone he was townreading because they claimed scum so)
I guess. That whole post pings me tho. Like, the idea of rushing a post in the middle of the meeting to make sure your town read gets out there a week or whatever before eod? I see a scum motivation for that, but not really a town one outside of exuberance for playing the game~

I could see scum wanting to make sure they were out ahead of them becoming a consensus town read for credit tho

do you think I'm way off base here?
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:16 pm

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In post 665, skitter30 wrote:ok, why are they townie?
you're asking about saladman, ya?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:17 pm

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i don't really have a strong read on him rn
don't really see the scumread that you're pushing really atm; none of it has been really compelling to me

i guess if i had to articulate a read i'd say ~nulltown but it's not strong

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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:19 pm

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In post 665, skitter30 wrote:ok, why are they townie?
In post 666, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 664, u r a person 2 wrote:saladman reads are pretty townie overall i think
His first set of reads or his second? or both?
oh I see what you guys are asking

I'm talking about the reads he gave in 605-610. He's laying it all out there on request, in fairly short order. Some of them, like the read on nom I think show a townie thought process and solving. There's no immediately identifiable scum agenda outside of trying to get himself town read.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:20 pm

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In post 668, skitter30 wrote:i mean that's why i'm asking why you like his reads ... to me they read kinda banal and like the reasons were nonsensical/didn't actually explain the read
yes, I agree that a bunch of them were like that. Should I expect dramatically more from town!saladman?
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