Micro 877: Liars and Millers

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh but I'm miller can we not lynch me?

[CheekyTeeky]

Also yay!

[CheekyTeeky]

Hmm now to read into Saudade's soul.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey I thought Sausage was my special nickname...how did it spread?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh sorry I meant I'm godfather!

[CheekyTeeky]

Twinsies!

[CheekyTeeky]

I have a meeting in like 24 minutes and then I'll play for real.

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine I'm seriously not a miller.

[CheekyTeeky]

I felt left out :/ sorry.

[CheekyTeeky]

That would be fun! I'm town though so go look at the quiet people or something.

[CheekyTeeky]

Senate?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Skygazer

[CheekyTeeky]

my hobbies inlcude long walks on the beach, mislynching sausgae, and reading about sausage being mislynched

LMFAO

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade town <3

[CheekyTeeky]

cheeky can u write me as town again and whiteknight me from the scary man

I'm going to watch you freak out for a bit while you get hit with sausage.

[CheekyTeeky]

are you going to report me? Mastina ignores me calling her mastie.

[CheekyTeeky]

Alright saudade if it bothers you I'll stop. Just remember it all started when you called me CheekyBreeky.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ew...maybe TW is scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

cheeky: any reason why you claimed miller at a mechanical level or just a whim?
also why ew @ my readlist originally?

I was just joining the fad.
Because it's a scum's readslist.

[CheekyTeeky]

okand how so?

Your read shifts on me aren't working in your favour either.

So your readslist is terrible because you auto-towned NSG and have her above people with far more content.
Also scum doesn't vote NSG but hides behind her. Making the dude that just voted her on this page likely town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah Saudade for once we are

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: the worst

[CheekyTeeky]

Read on Oka Saudade?

[CheekyTeeky]

Who's scum TW? I'm not accepting two reads as a pretend readslist.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like why is NSG town though TW?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ircher soft defending ducky O_o

[CheekyTeeky]

Are you shading 1 of your only 2 townreads TW?

[CheekyTeeky]

Tunnelling people that aren't saudade isn't as satisfying.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh you've finally figured out the Charisma tell.

[CheekyTeeky]

the worst the problem is that you're trying too hard to appear town.

[CheekyTeeky]

i dislike saudade's confidence in tw scum because there is no way that appears this early without some forgery of confidence

and cheeky is just in their to throw support it feels so saudade doesnt seem as crazy for pushing this all balls to the walls

Oka you still don't get me :/

[CheekyTeeky]

ircher but he townslipped spectacularly

Where?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Okapoka

[CheekyTeeky]

TW NSG is not town.

[CheekyTeeky]

tw did you roll scum ):

not this time sry :c you?

ircher but he townslipped spectacularly

Where?

I'll be p surprised if it's not an alignment slip, he clearly hasn't reflected on the setup at all which he being the godfather would require him to do to an extent

What????

[CheekyTeeky]

So because he's ignoring the setup he has town slipped?

[CheekyTeeky]

Did I even think about claiming right? I took one look at the setup went "Sweet mountainous" and I'm sure scum thought that too.

[CheekyTeeky]

But are they going to say in the thread "So I was thinking about claiming correctly"

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: The Worst

[CheekyTeeky]

{Sky, Saudade}
{AzoriusSenate}
{Pine, NSG, Oka}
{TW, Ircher}

[CheekyTeeky]

You only have to read her first post.

[CheekyTeeky]

What are you talking about?

[CheekyTeeky]

oh that popcorn one? Did we end up winning?

[CheekyTeeky]

I would say that too if I was in someone's scum list. You're allowed to not like my reads but it helps more if you give me your own take on things.
Like what do you think about sky so far?

pedit Gooo Reck! I had him so pocketed XD

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine I'll stop posting. GLGL

[CheekyTeeky]

I love you guys. Even if you're scumbutts.

[CheekyTeeky]

Can I see a tunnel just so I know you're town oka?

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmao it'd take more than that.

[CheekyTeeky]

Maybe she knew we were just pressuring her.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Ircher

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like hard defending sky which is weird.

[CheekyTeeky]

TW is still intensely scummy to me.
Oka, NSG, Pine need more content.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oka explain why we're lynching millers to me.

[CheekyTeeky]

{tw, skyg, sausage, nsg,

cheeky

} = millers
{pine, ircher, oka, cheeky} = nonmillers

{senate}



senate hardclaim, cheeky's more detailed explanation later

Senate you need to claim bruv.

[CheekyTeeky]

If I had to choose between TW/NSG I think you'd know where I'd go. Techically TW should be voting sky based on his reads.

I hadn't read who claimed what I'm just VT though.

[CheekyTeeky]

It was also pretty funny when you were like zomg did godfather claim which makes me want to townread you but I think you'll appreciate why that's hard for me.

[CheekyTeeky]

I just do Cheeky and it helps me read the game in my own messed up way.

[CheekyTeeky]

Now that's a tiered readslist. Why all the effort on formatting Ircher?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh...I just remembered that I'm the cop that's why I did that Oka.

[CheekyTeeky]

Don't CC me yet scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Pressure voting doesn't work on NSG early.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's a meta read. TW is playing very different to any meta I have of him. He could be genuine about trying a new playstyle and maybe he's just starstruck but like how does he townread NSG straight off the bat?

[CheekyTeeky]

It was zero effort formatting today; it's based off a template I have saved already. Also, I like colored lists.

It seems rather unnecessary. Pretty but like distracting from the point that effectively all your reads are null.

[CheekyTeeky]

100%

[CheekyTeeky]

Nsg doesn't starstrike me! I think I've hit a level of healthy but measured respect for her! ):

Cheeky you didn't need to claim, I already had you as silly town.

I still don't get why you townread her as strongly as you did.

[CheekyTeeky]

There's no NK right?

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh yes?

[CheekyTeeky]

Do you still think Ircher is town?

[CheekyTeeky]

Kind of. TW stop holding your cards so close, what's your solve?

[CheekyTeeky]

I thought about that oka and I think that's too easy.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's a tone read TW which might be diminishing.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'd so vig you for the info if I could TW. I'd be lonely though.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm pinging so hard my brain is a slushie

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade is town don't be scummy.

[CheekyTeeky]

wanna qualify that, Cheeky?

He's a player I can confidently soul read.

[CheekyTeeky]

AS is town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Are you talking about Pine? You have 1 townread on Pine?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sky don't be scum I'll be sad.

[CheekyTeeky]

Not yet tw.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Sky

I'm BoPing your new strat TW.

[CheekyTeeky]

Don't worry sky we catch scum D2 if you're town. There's 1 scum in each pool so it's easier than an normal mountainous.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why does noone ever listen to my saudade reads?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sky saudade is easy to read based on his aggression and intent to solve. He's not a frozen wolf here, he's not hiding behind anyone, overdoing charisma or tunnelling me lol

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: NSG

[CheekyTeeky]

I'd be impressed if this is actually your scum game TW. I don't think I've actually seen scum you?

[CheekyTeeky]

TW/Ircher is still where my heart is ):

Oka you can be town until tomorrow.

[CheekyTeeky]

Overcompensate?

[CheekyTeeky]

Why are you spiteful I'm confused

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh you mean omgusy. Gotcha.

[CheekyTeeky]

You're not scumreading TW?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oka you scumbutt.

[CheekyTeeky]

Boom boom boom boom.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hmm.TW the problem is that Oka is actually a great scum player. I don't think he makes those mistakes as scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

:/

[CheekyTeeky]

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh..>.> <.<

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah ok. But I'm not 100% on it. The two highborns still havent posted.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's so weird having you pitch to me lol.
I'm in no rush, you know how I like to drag it out for the scums.

[CheekyTeeky]

Just pick a read in the millers oka.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm the judge. Order in the court!

[CheekyTeeky]

I heard smaller berries are sweeter.

[CheekyTeeky]

The prosecution rests. Will the defence name their first witness for the stand?

[CheekyTeeky]

But I felt powerful.

[CheekyTeeky]

I hate using this term but she is "frozen" scum

It's the PTSD of that term being correctly applied to you.

[CheekyTeeky]

duck is either tunneling me or scum

if i rebuttle im going to countertunnle

can someone defend my honor

im just a princess

I would like to see this actually.

Same tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmao. Poor sky <3

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey it's bound to happen in reverse just be gentle.

[CheekyTeeky]

Voting town finds other scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

UNVOTE:

[CheekyTeeky]

Well that was disappointing.

[CheekyTeeky]

What made you shift the Ircher read?

[CheekyTeeky]

Your posting seems to assume saudade is town while you make a show of trying to sort him.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah I'm not sold. I think I'd trust her read on sky as either alignment I just can't see why she'd WK sky here hopefully time will tell.

Ircher I scum read because he pretty much made me claim with his fishing. I don't know why town out the too many millers thing. I don't know why scum do either tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

If one of Saudade/Sky/TW/NSG are scum by sky being town my reads default to TW but I'm not 100% on TW being scum. So I'm left thinking NSG or TW.

[CheekyTeeky]

you didnt have to claim you're just pretty

FTFY.

So NSG saying the posting has been silly/stupid assumes that the people spam posting are town right? Otherwise it would be "scummy" or there may be an attempt to look at the motivation behind it. Writing it off casually doesn't really line up with Saudade being the only person she's 'struggling' to sort.

I'm also like disappointed that there is so much real game content around like strat wise this game is a lot easier to PoE. If NSG townreads Sky and TW so far then it follows that she should be voting Saudade, especially since he has no votes and there's no pressure there. What would town be waiting for in that spot?

[CheekyTeeky]

What do you mean TW? That you hard townread her? I didn't get the impression she was going to reevaluate sky?

[CheekyTeeky]

hardclaim miller. on phone and haven't actually read very closely but i'm pretty sure this confs one scum in miller claims

Oh but I'm miller can we not lynch me?

Asking not to be lynched without any pressure feels scummy to me. Whereas northsidegal is just null so far, they haven't really given enough content for me to figure anything out yet.

sorry !!! i just haven't played with you before as opposed to everyone else here

That's a safe response but respectable.

On an unrelated note: VOTE: northsidegal

Azo what happened between these posts?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'd also like an updated read on NSG when you reply pretty please Azosaurus?

[CheekyTeeky]

Half an hour?! Good thing I'm on nightshift.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok well hopefully NSG can clarify her read on Sky. I'm probably going to have to lynch there the way things are going.
TW I'm finally digging your new style.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's like a montage of the wonders of the universe doco.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah unfortunately those are pretty anti-climactic from what I remember.

[CheekyTeeky]

Aww.

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine I'm seriously not a miller.

Is this the truth and 100% the truth?

also, let's face it: the cop is gonna claim miller or not miller as well because 1) they can and 2) they don't want to be outted. So one group will have five because it will include the cop.

[CheekyTeeky]

That's not an attempt to fish. That's me stating how the cop would claim mechanically.

But why would you out that/bring attention to that?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm feeling an Azo wagon coming on.

[CheekyTeeky]

I love collecting NSG shrugs I get one most games.

[CheekyTeeky]

TW I'd prefer to lynch in the millers today.

[CheekyTeeky]

We lynch in group 1 (millers) until we hit scum. Sky > NSG > TW. Then we find scum in group two which should be easier after a scumflip. Pretty much autowin if after I eat N1 NK you all VCA once you've nailed one.

[CheekyTeeky]

The non-millers group are a harder group to read in general so best left until later.

[CheekyTeeky]

Do you agree with the lynch order Saudade?

[CheekyTeeky]

I have a feeling Pine will be replaced. Might be good to wait until then.

[CheekyTeeky]

No but what that slot does is important for later.

[CheekyTeeky]

Harass TW to vote with you.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's scummy to want to lynch outside of the miller pool.

[CheekyTeeky]

Sky unvote you derp.

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade chill jfc.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why are you in such a rush to lynch today?

[CheekyTeeky]

We're finally getting some content and you look like nom tunnelling town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Oka is town which makes me concerned about TW.

[CheekyTeeky]

Day 1 will end on June 21 at 7pm EST.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't think oka tries to get me/saudade lynched as scum early game. He'd be a lot more tactful about his pushes and probably try pocketing us instead.

It's basically too scummy to be scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hmm nsg/senate actually makes a lot of sense

How so? We're both in the miller list. I don't think we can both be scum at the same time just based on simple logic.

Brain fart, I'm definitely not a miller. But I'd still like to understand why you think I'd be with NSG.

Uh wtf mate?

[CheekyTeeky]

Oka you're grumpy as town.

[CheekyTeeky]

Seriously Azor just scum slipped but we stay in Millers.

[CheekyTeeky]

Is this all we're getting from the inactives? Let's have lunch.

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade mebbe he's scum idk why he's tunnelling you.

[CheekyTeeky]

Do you want meat of sky or roast northern girl?

[CheekyTeeky]

There's some bbq but that's largely off the menu.

[CheekyTeeky]

Bbq duck*

[CheekyTeeky]

Ircher if you're town I uh wouldn't do that.

[CheekyTeeky]

It seems too easy.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like that noone is pushing counter wagons is really bothering me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oka doesn't concede as scum and let others dictate the lynches. Sky seems too much like sky to flip scum.

I don't mind lynching sky if it means we move onto the right track.

[CheekyTeeky]

How many votes is Sky on?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Sky sorry bub.

[CheekyTeeky]

I've been lazy this weekend I'll be back to #goodpost assuming I'm not nightkilled

Gross don't take my NK glory.

[CheekyTeeky]

Good I'm not the only one getting goosebumps from TW.

[CheekyTeeky]

UNVOTE:

[CheekyTeeky]

So I'm worried about you guys lynchung the right nonmiller as we only really get one shot at that if we don't lynch the correct miller.

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade I'm lynching even though I think she's town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't think he knew as we all assumed Saudade was voting you.

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade I'm lynching even though I think she's town.

Let's not lynch people we think are town.

I'm countering his Oka tunnel.

The millers are a point of PoE. It'd be nice to get scum with the first lynch though.

[CheekyTeeky]

What's up with Ircher vanity voting btw

[CheekyTeeky]

Azor what events made you reconsider? Can you walk me through your read shift on sky?

[CheekyTeeky]

TW/Azor? Idk. I need to look at those associatives.

Lol poor sky.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh what's going on?

[CheekyTeeky]

Azor how do you forget you're not a miller?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: TW

Lol saudade

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh what's going on?

IDK what's going on with you? I'm soul reading this game at the moment, I think if I get too caught up in finding a logical fallacy in a drunk person's logic then I'm completely failing my job as town.

I don't even know what this means.

[CheekyTeeky]

That's fair psyche. No more fake votes sausage.

[CheekyTeeky]

Azor how do you forget you're not a miller?

Good question. Best answer I can give you is that I have been so caught up in the sorting of players into different categories I forgot which one I was in, in relation to NSG.

It's easier to think you're the godfather who forgot what category they should go into.

[CheekyTeeky]

Occam's razor has it's place.

[CheekyTeeky]

Its*

[CheekyTeeky]

You could also say I care so little about which category I fit into because I'm TOWN. Town shouldn't really care about which category they are in, whereas scum would be HYPER interested in appearing town.

Yes that crossed my mind but If I'm a miller, I know I'm a miller - It's not a role that's easy to forget.
If you're solving like you're claiming you are then you should always know where you stand in relation to others in the PoE.

If I was nonmiller then I would know there's 1 scum in 4, if I'm a miller then I know there's one scum in 3.

It's not a typical scenario where town can forget their role naturally.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lol was that early game or like today Saudade?

[CheekyTeeky]

He posted that today which seems too late. He's been engaged enough to know better tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

More confident than on the rest of you pretend goons.

[CheekyTeeky]

Have you changed your mind on Sky TW? What's making you question the read?

[CheekyTeeky]

We can still lynch NSG.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why are Oka/Sky svs?

[CheekyTeeky]

Nsg is like 3rd or 4th best lynch today tbh

List your preferred order.

[CheekyTeeky]

Look you can't wolfy poppins a derp hammer and keep pushing the same suboptimal play TW.

[CheekyTeeky]

Lmfao oh man TW just tried to check me.

[CheekyTeeky]

How am I being unpleasant??? This is like the most mild I've been in a game ever.

[CheekyTeeky]

Your argument and AtE can kiss my ass TW. I'll come rip you up when I've regained some sanity.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oka you there?

[CheekyTeeky]

Saudade I don't know if you remember the weird toneshift oka did in your SvS game or if you remember him pushing for sub optimal lynches. Like if town voted on the wagon instead of off we would have caught you both but he managed to weasel around that. I'm seeing a replay of both the weird toneshift and the weaselling.

I'm fine if we lynch sky but y'all have to promise to keep lynching from the same group until you hit scum. Don't let anyone change that even if you townread them.

[CheekyTeeky]

In simple english. Stick with the plan.

Anyone who is a miller should be wanting to lynch a miller claim because it's 1 in 3. It's not rocket science.

[CheekyTeeky]

....

[CheekyTeeky]

It's like stupidity morning or something.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not anyway inclined about him. Why are we lynching outside the millers?

[CheekyTeeky]

Millers: nsg, tw, sky, saudade
Non millers: azo (he forgot lol), ircher, oka, Pine
Cop: me.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ircher do you not understand how weird it is for a miller not wanting to lynch in millers?
From their PoV there's 1 in 3.
If I'm covering for a cop in the nonmillers it's better if we don't lynch there.

[CheekyTeeky]

You can wait until I'm confirmed before lynching in nonmillers. It's incredibly suspicious that y'all can't work out what's optimal here.

[CheekyTeeky]

Scum will narrow down nonmiller pool. We lynch in millers.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well done you. You realise that scum aren't going to shoot the miller claims right? Think a little bit ahead.

[CheekyTeeky]

Whatever pool you lynch from you need to continue lynching from. I guess you could let scum out themselves in either. I just don't feel confident that there's anyone explicitly towny in the nonmiller pool to guarantee you hit scum before scum win.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think anyone who thinks they can read Oka is delusional.