BTE: Boon Wars - Attack of the Colognes

[Alisae]

VOTE: Nero
lynch the shit player so we don't lose kthx

[Alisae]

The the only time I actually enjoyed playing with you was when you didn't get a chance to post and Enter put down 4 votes and you died.
I think any other time you're either bad or scum

[Alisae]

Yeah and I was more pro town in the game I was scum then you were

[Alisae]

also lets lie about the amount of games we played together.
Sure.
Do that.

[Alisae]

Actually funny story
you sat on a guilty in that game I was scum

literal gamethrowing in action.

[Alisae]

Subject: NY 208 - Mod PT

Night 4

Nero Cain (MOTION DETECTOR) targets I Am Innocent (VT), succeeds
Assemblerotws (JAILKEEPER) jails TwoInAMillion (MASON), succeeds
AxleGreaser (GOON) kills Smocaine (VT), succeeds

Results

Nero Cain receives result: motion was not detected on I Am Innocent
Smocaine (VT) dies

[Alisae]

wait no wrong one

[Alisae]

Subject: NY 208 - Mod PT

Night 3

Nero Cain (MOTION DETECTOR) targets AxleGreaser (GOON), succeeds
Assemblerotws (JAILKEEPER) jails MathBlade (GOON), succeeds
AxleGreaser (GOON) kills Rhah (MASON), succeeds

Results

Nero Cain gets result: motion was detected on AxleGreaser
Rhah (MASON) dies

here we go

[Alisae]

I'm sorry
I don't want these fucking gamethrowers who all they fucking do is throw every single game with the most awful reads ever and make plays like this
like I'm sorry, I just don't want to deal with it anymore.

[Alisae]

my point is that you should be the day 1 lynch because you're more anti-town then you are pro-town.
It is significantly more pro-scum to keep you alive then pro-town.

[Alisae]

I wanna lynch scum, not town that’s playing poorly. That’s still a town.

What makes Nero town this game???????

[Alisae]

lets seee...no. b/c even if my reads are wrong (which they aren't always) I'm going to be EZ to read so getting rid of town Nero d1 is a no.

I do not trust you to put down the correct vote in LyLo, and I don't think anyone should, therefore in my mind, you cannot go to LyLo, and you should be lynched before then

[Alisae]

I'm just saying that lynching Nero today will create such an easier environment to scumhunt in its not even funny.

[Alisae]

Subject: Gunner Mafia [Endgame]

@Thor: Hopkirk was the 9th vote on the wagon, and then proceeded to ask lots of questions about the role. If the town was buying the claim he was in the perfect position to say "lets wait a day or two and see what results come up". If the town didn't, he could claim that he was on the wagon. Frankly, this is more scum than town, and you're writing bollocks. I would like you to explain what's so town about the vote, because where I'm sitting it looks like a classic late vote for town credit. Speaking of, I would honestly say I expected a lot more from you based on past play. There's a joke about "when thor's play is bad, thor isn't town" and... it's not very funny.

For tomorrow, Tchill has shown his true colors. Vote him he shows up and posts. No attention, he lurks. He claims he's bad at town, but he's also bad at scum, and this is bad scum.

Nero Cain is one who is hard to read. Honestly, digression time. When he joined the site he was like 14. In that time I've seen many players grow from bad to good, or from bad to okay, or from bad to interesting. Inbetween being a teenager, and being an adult, Nero Cain is still the same shitter he was 9 years ago. It's like he never grew up, never learned anything, and never improved. He's one of the most anti-town forces I've ever seen. I

think

he's scum, but I'd like to emphasize he's hard to read just because he always plays like this. He claims to be angling for the achievement "Lead a lynch on groupscum". Whether or not it's true, it's telling in nine years he's never once accomplished that (and he won't in this game either, no matter what his alignment is). So... feel free to kill him, it's pro-town.

Now, we have time for a Hopkirk wagon, and we could end the day with a scum lynch. Or we could end the day with a town lynch. But what's toxic here is the people lurking until "they had no other choice". Some of those are most certainly scum. The Worst is a good choice for lurking scum, but he might be lurking town. Chickadee slot is a crapper - quick wasn't great, but his replace out felt town. He realized no one was listening to him, and quit in frustration. So town. Unfortunately Chickadee is just dumb, but don't let stupidity get in the way of a town read on that slot.

Don't let Spiffeh slide with as little as he's been contributing.

[Alisae]

wow you trash talked my setups that were memes
good on you

[Alisae]

I bet you feel so good about yourself for talking shit about my meme setups
I'm proud of you

[Alisae]

wow you had one good game
amazing
to bad the 9 other games you played like shit

[Alisae]

ok but elli was town in gunner and he carried gunner so that doesn't count cuz elli cheats

[Alisae]

Fire help me policy Nero

[Alisae]

I'm alright

[Alisae]

ngl I rly like ep 1

[Alisae]

alright how about this

say I if you don't want to take the game seriously because its multiball.
That way we can prove we're the funner thread

[Alisae]

I'm offended and triggered you think I'm scum

[Alisae]

the only good star wars movie is episode 1

[Alisae]

now this is podracing

[Alisae]

do it you washed up

pussy

Chewbacca

[Alisae]

do it idgaf its multiball
I just hope FA Is having lots of fun right now

[Alisae]

I don't want to play in a mutliball game either dude
I get it.
Lets just shitpost the whole game

[Alisae]

like I genuinely see no reason to care its multiball, we shitpost and do nothing for like, 3 days, and then we lynch in the pool of the lowest posters, thats how multiball goes.

[Alisae]

"But Ali, why did you take the multiball game if you hate it so much"
Because FA also hates multiball, someone has to play it, and I want to actually see FA not replace out of a mafia game for once.

[Alisae]

Fire you're still here right?

[Alisae]

Fire I'll pretend I have a red role pm the whole game if you pretend to me my in thread scum buddy

[Alisae]

i was originally supposed to be in this but some poor communication had me placed in other, boon corrected it, thank you boon.

Okay but serious question
can you elaborate on this and why you two picked hte games you two wanted to be in

[Alisae]

wtf????????
why do I have all of the boring people who are off during sleeper hours

thats
so
fucking
shit
I JUST WANNA SCREAM A WORD BUT PEOPLE ARE FUCKING CHEWBACCAS OVER THAT SHIT SO I CAN'T

[Alisae]

i was originally supposed to be in this but some poor communication had me placed in other, boon corrected it, thank you boon.

Okay but serious question
can you elaborate on this and why you two picked hte games you two wanted to be in

the flavor this game was bad, me and shiro played rock papers scissors to see who got this one, and I got it. so I am clearly a winner.

so why was there a miscommunciation

[Alisae]

wow ig I can't press you on this line of conversation anymore huh

offer still stands
in thread scum buddies?

[Alisae]

I actually did get something useful out of it
And ye I will agree to a no bussing pact ;D

[Alisae]

Original Roll String: 1d14

1 14-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

[Alisae]

LUV

[Alisae]

the only good star wars movie is episode 1

VOTE: alisea

you can’t even spell my name dude

[Alisae]

like I genuinely see no reason to care its multiball, we shitpost and do nothing for like, 3 days, and then we lynch in the pool of the lowest posters, thats how multiball goes.

oh sheeeeet, im usually in the pool of lowest posters
is winning the game usually correlated to spamming and shitposting?

if thats a habit that’s usually proven for you specifically, then you’re okay proooooobably, but I’m just saying, that that’s where we should look.
Btw thats 3 rl days not 3 game days but I assume you knew that

Basically the way you play multiball as scum is you don’t want to post because the more you post the higher of the chance that scum will shoot you, and you don’t want to get shot especially in multiball.
And I don’t think I have to explain why thats bad.

[Alisae]

Relly I just noticed that this is probably our first game together.

[Alisae]

Dw
I realize that I’ll only be having fun in this mafia game.

[Alisae]

*siren noises* Hands up Ali, its the fun police, you’re under arrest for trying to have fun

fucking Chewbaccas I swear

[Alisae]

*siren noises* Hands up Ali, its the fun police, you’re under arrest for trying to have fun

fucking Chewbaccas I swear

Yeah I’m watching you.

thats okay just hydra with me, ik i was scum when I said that, but I WAS serious about that.

[Alisae]

No I’m serious
My discord tag is in my sig, literally just tell me a game you want to hydra with me in and I’ll probably say yes.

[Alisae]

Just know that right now
I could not give a fuck about this game and kinda just want to have fun.
But some people here most likely are very anti-fun because they’re fucking Chewbaccas and are going to say “waaah, we have to take mafia seriously and we have play the game seriously because I play to win and having fun is bad waaaaah”

Speaking of which
Relly, what do we do to the no fun police?
Whats the penalty?

[Alisae]

ok but elli was town in gunner and he carried gunner so that doesn't count cuz elli cheats

WHAT HE DOES IS CHEATING IT RUINS GAMES IT DOESN’T MAKE GAMES FUN

[Alisae]

VOTE: Aristophanes

Aris doesn't like to play scum. Joan prefers scum over town, so...

This is true and an assumption I rely on in this sort of setup. It got me through Revenge of Camn and a couple other games iirc.

However I did not employ said strategy in this instance, mostly because no scum pm was available to us.

Dude ur town period end of convo
You don’t have this mentality when playing mafia
You don’t

You would rather let Yume have fun and play mafia and let Yume decide who gets what PM because ur a nice person.

[Alisae]

Just know that right now
I could not give a fuck about this game and kinda just want to have fun.
But some people here most likely are very anti-fun because they’re fucking Chewbaccas and are going to say “waaah, we have to take mafia seriously and we have play the game seriously because I play to win and having fun is bad waaaaah”

Speaking of which
Relly, what do we do to the no fun police?
Whats the penalty?

I think anything outside of the geriatric ruleset counts as a penalty

dude that shit is old news.

[Alisae]

But some people here most likely are very anti-fun because they’re ... going to say “waaah, we have to take mafia seriously and we have play the game seriously because I play to win and having fun is bad waaaaah”

por que no los dos

because when ur town in multiball literally nothing is in your control and its impossible to scumhunt because scum are also scumhunting
Multiball sucks.

[Alisae]

Like day 1
Day 2
There is no playing to win

Multiball and Dayplay aren’t things that go together since Multiball is night focused and ruins dayplay completely.
We might as well just throw Dayplay out of the window early to mid game.

[Alisae]

Like day 1
Day 2
There is no playing to win

Multiball and Dayplay aren’t things that go together since Multiball is night focused and ruins dayplay completely.
We might as well just throw Dayplay out of the window early to mid game.

I mean it's very hard to gain control of the early game as any alignment in multiball
but as town we can at least lynch a scum, causing that scumteam to prioritize hitting scum over town so that the scumteams are even

Its significantly easier to play the game with flips.
I’m just saying, its hard to gain control of the early game.
Its hard to lynch scum day 1 as well.
Also lynching scum isn’t AS important tbh. I mean its always important, but there’s always a chance that a scum can die over the night because Multiball is bullshit. So scum can always die during the night.

I’m just saying, there’s a line between fun and competitive. When you are more competitive, you are less likely to have fun and more likely to be frustrated.
Thats no fun and nobody likes that.

Like, Multiball isn’t a normal mafia game
And I don’t think treating it like a normal mafia game is ever smart because you get more punished for being wrong.

[Alisae]

Just know that right now
I could not give a fuck about this game and kinda just want to have fun.
But some people here most likely are very anti-fun because they’re fucking Chewbaccas and are going to say “waaah, we have to take mafia seriously and we have play the game seriously because I play to win and having fun is bad waaaaah”

Speaking of which
Relly, what do we do to the no fun police?
Whats the penalty?

Did you get into the game with the mindset of shit talking everyone? I didn't suggest policy lynching you or anything, I said if I'd give a read for a deep wolf it would be you. But way to act so emotionally after a simple affirmation You're attacking yourself.

did I trigger you?
That was meant towards people who want to not have fun and would rather scumhunt over shitpost.

[Alisae]

Like
Having fun means you’re not worried about doing well.
Where as playing to win means you are worried about doing well.

I want to have fun because there is no reasonable way to worry about doing well when you’re put into the swingy clusterfuck that is multiball.

[Alisae]

I mean
If you want to win, you’ll lynch Nero Cain.

[Alisae]

I play to get better at the game. Find issues with that?

Yeah actually, you could have picked literally any other game that wasn’t multiball to do that because multiball isn’t normal mafia.
There are 2 mafia teams
They both want to find each other
And they both want to kill each other
So they will be genuinely scumhunting
Which means they are way more likely to look town if they are scumhunting
Which means they are more likely to get shot

So an easy way to not get shot by the other mafia team is to not post because one scumteam will be obsessed with finding the other that they’ll shoot in their own reads.

[Alisae]

Like insomnia, the cold truth to multiball is that multiball games don’t make you better at mafia, they’re a colossal waste of time and quite frankly, they shouldn’t even exist.

[Alisae]

If you want to get better at mafia
Switch games.
This isn’t a threat or anything.
The other game has a really great playerlist with a lot of really strong players and thats a really good environment to get better in.

This on the other hand, is the exact opposite of an environment that’ll make you better as a player.

[Alisae]

The other game has a really great playerlist

We have Worm, they have Easy. They're both fake Doctors. It's evenly divided IMHO.

The playerlist is a shitshow
And its multiball, which also makes it a shitshow
I’m just embracing the fact that this game is 100% a shitshow by playing for fun

[Alisae]

Ngl
I could vote insomnia for 170

[Alisae]

VOTE: insomnia

[Alisae]

Don’t care about pronoun usage
Never will
Do what you like

[Alisae]

Yes
This game is multiball

[Alisae]

Btw ausuka town
Ari town

Easiest townreads in my mafia career.

[Alisae]

Nothing to give here because shits boring here
Plus its multiball, generally to play the game you need to wait for something to *happen*

[Alisae]

Btw ausuka town
Ari town

Easiest townreads in my mafia career.

Yeah I'm
fine with these being real reads I think

you’re not going to see scum say “wait this is multiball?”
Like, they’re just not going to fake it because they’ll think they won’t get cred from it.
Its most likely coming from people who genuinely have town role pms.

[Alisae]

wait this is multiball?

I would push you but I genuinely think no one would give a shit if I did so I’m not going to.

Its not like I’m going to change A50’s mind so...

[Alisae]

I don’t like how condescending you’re being to me right now its scummy
I don’t like you called me out for being triggered when I’m actually really triggered atm. I was going to write about how I’m not triggered, but I am most certainly triggered and I hate the fact that you’re saying I’m triggered to justify what ur doing. Its actually really bothersome and not town.

[Alisae]

Btw ausuka town
Ari town

Easiest townreads in my mafia career.

Yeah I'm
fine with these being real reads I think

you’re not going to see scum say “wait this is multiball?”
Like, they’re just not going to fake it because they’ll think they won’t get cred from it.
Its most likely coming from people who genuinely have town role pms.

I'm prepared to retract these later though if we ever see a scum role PM that doesn't mention multiball

im not.
Those are players who definitely prefer town pms to scum pms.

[Alisae]

Part of that read isn’t you being easy to read
Its mostly I just understand how scum think and scum just don’t play ignorant
Or atleast do it truthfully
Like I genuinely think that its a comment that town is way more likely to make then scum is.

[Alisae]

Also the best alignment is the permanently banned alignment
But thats hard to rand that so...

[Alisae]

Also the best alignment is the permanently banned alignment
But thats hard to rand that so...

?????

wat did I misspeak?

[Alisae]

Its ok I still think ur a great person Ari <3

[Alisae]

Honestly
I’m just happy I got to play the game.
Last time I did this kind of thing, I got randed town/scum and it was hosted by mathdino and nsg.
I wanted the towngame because I was doing that with plot and I wanted to scumhunt with plot and learn how plot scumhunts and basically learn how to be a better player from plot
Instead what ended up happening was I played the game for 3 pages, woke up to then find the thread locked and that I was unable to play the game, to then plot getting sick and having to swap, just to be lynched without people really caring about what I had to say (even tho I was really obvscum)

Worst fucking mafia experience of my life.

[Alisae]

Keep in mind
Plot has a VERY unique way of scumhunting which revolves around a making a lot of charts and then analyzing those charts.
The issue is tho thats stopping me from doing this in just about every game I play in is that I’m lazy and actually reading every single post takes effort. I can’t tryhard like that

[Alisae]

I actually just realize that I like to rant about nothing
Its actually fucking hilarious

[Alisae]

my point is that you should be the day 1 lynch because you're more anti-town then you are pro-town.
It is significantly more pro-scum to keep you alive then pro-town.

Maybe his game has improved?

What is the point of this?

oh you’re just adorable
Nero has played for 9+ years
You would think he has improved since then but if GreyICE said he hasn’t (and he has a lot of experience with Nero) then he definitely hasn’t

[Alisae]

{Engima, Ausuka, Relly, Ari, Baezu, Fire}
{PP, FlippyNips}
{Davesaz}
{A50, LUV, Nero Cain}
{Insomnia, Dr Worm}

[Alisae]

I'm just saying that lynching Nero today will create such an easier environment to scumhunt in its not even funny.

So I tunneled you and trash talked your setups, get over it.

Also we are a long way from lylo and we may not even need to get there if the game has been solved.

Welp I'm skimming both of your posts for the rest of this game yayyy
Also inb4 scumteam ^

that other side thinks they have the funner thread. WE WILL SHOW THEM!!!!!

Wait really? 'Cause we have more penguins, more elephants, more statues named Dave, more LUV, and especially more WORMMMMM!!!!
Not sure what they think is fun about their playerlist because I've only read this game but they wrong

alright how about this

say I if you don't want to take the game seriously because its multiball.
That way we can prove we're the funner thread

I could honestly get on board with this till like right before deadline, two serious Boon games is a lot

now this is podracing

lol

who is our other scum buddy

Townslip? Idk the size of the scumteams but I wasn't assuming 3. 3v3v9 would be basically unwinnable for town unless PRs balance it like crazy. So I'd assume it's 2v2v11, in which case Fire might be more likely to be town for basing a joke on the idea of a 3-person team? It's a read, anyway.

ofrhz, u guys aren't gonna have even a tenth of the fun we will have. And at the end your going to request to switch over and I am gonna put a halt on all fun because no fun for u.

so yeah, this means fun war. the fun nerve has been touched.

im your ofrhz for today
my presence brings fun to the yard

is everyone having fun yet

yes

It sounds like this game has a similar setup to fire and ice

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fire_and_Ice

Fire this is my scumbuddy btw

[Alisae]

Okay Fire I told you my scumbuddy who is yours?

[Alisae]

{Engima, Ausuka, Relly, Ari, Baezu, Fire}

{PP, FlippyNips}
{Davesaz}

{A50, LUV, Nero Cain}
{Insomnia, Dr Worm}

Those is yellow haven't even posted yet, so how come PP/Nips are higher that dave already??

PP is town because I don’t ever see him willingly take a scum role pm, he just needs to post to confirm it for me.
Same with nips tbh
Dave because I feel like he wouldn’t willingly take a scum role pm, but I’m not totally sure where as with the names above I’m way more sure they wouldn’t willingly take a scum role pm.

[Alisae]

Btw I just wanna point out that it would be really unfair to town if both scumteams decided to team up and agree to a pact not to shoot or lynch each other and just shoot town until it was a scenario that would make it so there would be a joint win
Because that is a really stupid rule thats in boon’s rules.

[Alisae]

But that like
Requires a scum to reach out to another scum
In the main thread
And then for that scum to pick up on it and agree to it
And then for town to not notice that at all

So yeah, thats not happening.

[Alisae]

I’m sleepy I’m going to bed goodnight

[Alisae]

Alisae is SCUM. He couldn't have maden it any clearer than he did with 247 & 248. These posts are an explicit invitation for the other scum team to work with Ali's team.

you quite literally do not have a brain if you believe what you’re saying but ok

[Alisae]

But thats ok I think my posts were made to separate the smart people from the people who will blindly follow the logic of “I BLATANTLY SCUMCLAIMED”

Also makes it easier to scumhunt so ig I can say that ur like
Definitely town

[Alisae]

But i mean hey
I’m in the playerlist with the bad players
So get me fucking out ig

[Alisae]

I mean
If you want to turn on your brain and think why would I signal as loudly as possible, then be my guest

[Alisae]

But like ur really bad so I don’t think you know how to turn your brain on.

[Alisae]

LUV you can interest me with an unvote
You’re significantly better then this

But then again, I’m not actually sure about that.

[Alisae]

Like
Why

are

You voting me dude
Ik 2 people genuinely believe I Scumclaimed, 1 is just following that logic because they don’t know what else to do, 1 is insomnia

And then theres you
So like
What are you doing?

[Alisae]

Either way
Because this is the playerlist with the bad players, I want to say that playing for fun results in you getting lynched because so many people
A. Don’t like to have fun
B. this particular playerlist is braindead.

So yeah, yay video games ig

[Alisae]

Why scum do it all the time?

they don’t, you just have your brain off 24/7

[Alisae]

Okay I’ll stop
I just wanted to get the message across that people are playing with their brains off

[Alisae]

Fire you never told me who your scumbuddy is btw

[Alisae]

But now I kind of feel bad

Why do you feel bad?

Just do. I hate seeing Alisae upset like this regardless of alignment.

I just want to let you know that you shouldn’t feel bad because I had fun

That involves getting lynched by [redacted because fire told me to stop being toxic]
But I still had fun

[Alisae]

VOTE: LUV
Also ur definitely scum on my wagon

[Alisae]

Alright I’ma go make some food and get high and then come back when I’m stoned I wanna have more fun before town decides to lollynch me

[Alisae]

why are u townreading almost50. All he has done is monkey business?

I really liked 110. I felt it was a useful contribution to those who may be unfamiliar with the players he listed. It looked aimed to encourage them to have some sort of frame work to read us. I think that’s more likely to come town at the time since nothing was really going on.

the only issue is that everyone is familiar with each other.
Like I get the demographic of the post you feel like its targetting, but who specificly do you think it targetting?

[Alisae]

I don’t really think it’s useless. I didn’t know Baezu and Dave preferred playing town. I now can keep that in mind while reading them and any of their past games.

I feel like anyone could write that and you would be suckered into tring it

[Alisae]

btw hi I got my weed
food is cookin

[Alisae]

Alright I’ma go make some food and get high and then come back when I’m stoned I wanna have more fun before town decides to lollynch me

Since when did you start smoking weed?

Mid Jan of this year tbh.
I used it as a way of dealing with stress.
Then I realized it worked and then wondered if it could help me have fun in mafia games again.
I came back to mafia trying it and I started to have fun.
So I kept smoking ever since and enjoy mafia more.
If I realize that if I just try to enjoy mafia.
The only thing that truely stops me from having fun in mafia is randing scum because I try so hard to win that it becomes stressful and makes me panic and not enjoy the game anymore.
I actually hate playing scum, its legit never fun because for someone like me, who has a lot of issues making sure that I have to be liked all of the time, when I get wagoned like this I lose my fucking mind.
So I only play to have fun now.

But I'll still vote and want to lynch nero cain in every single game I play with him because he's not fun and he's bad.

[Alisae]

why are u townreading almost50. All he has done is monkey business?

I really liked 110. I felt it was a useful contribution to those who may be unfamiliar with the players he listed. It looked aimed to encourage them to have some sort of frame work to read us. I think that’s more likely to come town at the time since nothing was really going on.

the only issue is that everyone is familiar with each other.
Like I get the demographic of the post you feel like its targetting, but who specificly do you think it targetting?

My guess would be Dr. Worm, Irrelephant, and insomnia based on join date.

Fire after this post?
no
mostly because I genuinely believe that he thought the information was more useful to the playerlist as a whole, but instead realized that he probably just feels good enough to TR A50 for it because it helped him more then it actually helped the players he mentioned.

so yeah, LUV is probably town
VOTE: Insomnia

[Alisae]

its dr worm

FREEBRANGER IS LYING!!

just go with the flow
posts like these will make people actually want to lynch you

[Alisae]

ye
I don't think after these interactions I would be lynching LUV today.

pedit: A50, I think his read makes sense for him from his perspective. You made that post, he in his mind went "I didn't know these players prefered town and I want to feel good about A50 for sharing that information with me"
I'm just saying that such behavoir is like, really risky to rely on, but you're town so its fine ig

[Alisae]

A50
I am having fun but I think your way of pushing me is very not fun to deal with especially considering you're wrong here
but if you wanna talk it out I'm down

[Alisae]

I wouldn't push myself
from my perspective I am never scum

but if you want to know, investigate it and try to figure out why people are performing the actions they perform.
Asking yourself why you think players do this or that takes yourself a long way.

[Alisae]

thats a really good post
my counter to that is I'm a really insecure person who has to make sure I'm liked all of the time, because as a person I just cannot handle being disliked, and I don't know how to seperate this fear of being disliked from mafia games.
Its not something I can really control

[Alisae]

okay see the difference from what you're doing and what I'm doing is if I WAS actually scum and my scumbuddy was very annoyed with how I was playing, they could report me and I could potentially be banned for gamethrowing.

[Alisae]

why are you talking to me like I'm scum?

[Alisae]

why are you talking to me like I'm scum?

Becausw that's what I genuinely believe you rolled in this game. C'mon. This whole thing is about me pushing, voting and casing you as an "anti-town role" (feel better using that term instead?)

no
what would make me feel better is if you investigated me and gave me a chance to change your mind?

[Alisae]

I'm sorry I'm not taking anyone seriously who holds a guilty and then says that they're not horrible.
Pretty sure that flip would have actually broke open the game too

[Alisae]

What makes you think I'm an investigative?

not what I meant

[Alisae]

now I won't get lynched and Ali will.

but real talk, that "investigate meeeee" is just scum crap and should be speed lynched

You don't like the fact that I'm starting to townpost so you're trying to rush the lynch
its super scummy
die
VOTE: nero cain

[Alisae]

See
the difference between you and A50 is A50 asked if thats what I meant, in I did not mean "investigate me with a cop", but atleast he asked
where as you are like "lol he wanted to be investigated by a cop lynch him" and thats really scummy because thats not what I meant at all.

[Alisae]

You know thats not what I meant
but you're not trying to understand that at all
Like, just eat rope.

[Alisae]

and you're only way out instead of actually addressing me like I'm town is to say that its bullshit
You're fucked dude.

[Alisae]

I think you're scummy because you're misrepresenting what I'm saying what I didn't say that at all.

Like A50 had a similar interpretation but he asked if thats a correct interpretation.
While I am trying to tell you its not a correct interpretation, you don't care, and you are just repeating the same point over and over again.

Take your lynch like a man because you actually just threw.

[Alisae]

Also lynching you fucks over your scum team

Multitasking? Nope

Fire won't be able to kill and whatever else tonight so FYPOV its a good idea to try to still be around tonight.

Lynch Alise. Solve the world's problems.

this is literally the most generic post like
ever
you can say this post against anyone in this game
it doesn't actually mean anything
or do anything

[Alisae]

ok, humor me. If you didn't want to be investigated tonight, what did you want?

To be interrigated. To be asked questions. And then to answer said questions. Like how normal mafia games work?

[Alisae]

no
A50 was talking to me. I thought that maybe for a minute, we could talk. I do think he wrongly scumreads me but he's not really change his mind? I can do that, but I don't think anything I say will reach what he says unless he takes a minute and talks to me with the mindset of "maybe this person isn't scum, and if I listen to what they have to say, maybe they could be right."
you were trying to rush my lynch and you didn't really care about what I have to say. You noticed that I might have started to town it up a bit and you want me dead before people realize that. You're trying to shut me up because you want to go into the night phase and see the day end as soon as possible.

[Alisae]

thats a really good post
my counter to that is I'm a really insecure person who has to make sure I'm liked all of the time, because as a person I just cannot handle being disliked, and I don't know how to seperate this fear of being disliked from mafia games.
Its not something I can really control

Being pushed in an online game for being suspicious =/= we hare you, grow up.

its not that ez dude

[Alisae]

@alisae: was your attention with the signalling thing literally just "weed out the bad townies"? if so, it seems like you've already made up your mind that we're all terrible, so why?

A. Spread awareness to Boon’s ruleset that 1-1 = joint win so looking for signaling is a good idea
B. Its significantly easier to look for scum who is pushing you if you put yourself in a very lynchbaity position. If you put yourself in a lynchbait position, you can try to figure out who is genuinely trying to figure out your alignment, while also try to figure out who is scum trying to lynch you.

[Alisae]

k, I'm going to admit that I got over zealous and misread/misinterpreted Ali's "investigate meee" when they really meant "give me a chance to explain myself and let me change your mind." But it's just really weird language anyways. Especially with Fire and A50 actually talking about investigation roles.

A. Its not weird language
B. That discussion with a50/fire happened

after

I made those posts and because I made those posts.

“Ig I was wrong but I wanna push my read anyways since I really need this lynch”
Your read is unnatural as fuck dude and that mindset only comes from scum because town would want to re-evaluate here, or atleast seem slightly interested in re-evaluating after realizing that they were misinterpreting.

Like, lets be clear here.
This is not how town reacts after they misinterpreted something.
If Nero was town, he would probably pause a bit.

Like, I dunno how to explain it,
Maybe if someone asked questions to help me out with my thought process, I could probably explain why that paragraph is just not town
But that paragraph is not town.
It never is.

[Alisae]

I called everyone braindead because I don't get how they thought that those posts were signaling?
Like I actually don't get it.

[Alisae]

But that like
Requires a scum to reach out to another scum
In the main thread
And then for that scum to pick up on it and agree to it
And then for town to not notice that at all

So yeah, thats not happening.

hot take, discussions like this and above are subtle signalling to other scum team

your take isn't hot
and its wrong

[Alisae]

I hate this fucking video game
no one wants to lynch scum

pedit: dude I wasn't told till recently either
can you help me be a good team buddy and help me not be tilted at the video game

[Alisae]

okay but how do I get them to put their votes on the person I want them to vote

[Alisae]

But then the people will vote me

[Alisae]

idk i find it less likely to get lynched when i don't even defend myself. trying to convince other people to vote other people especially if people think ur doing it just to avoid getting lynched will more likely get people to double down.

okay well whats the plan

[Alisae]

I scumhunted
nero cain is scum
whats next

[Alisae]

no
how do I start

[Alisae]

I was having fun when I started playing
then I woke up and I wasn't having fun
how do I go back to having fun
send help

[Alisae]

only if Ausuka promises me she'll carry
you'll carry right Ausuka?

[Alisae]

thats not a promise >_<

[Alisae]

Yes
towniest slot in the game
and they would always take a town role pm over a scum role pm
the second towniest slot in the game is A50

[Alisae]

yeah thats cause we're in thread scumbuddies
pedit: dude he's the towniest slot in the game literally everything he writes is pure.
And he's also voting nero cain
the dude knows what's up

[Alisae]

she
I keep on forgetting that you wanna be refered to as a she ausuka
sorry I'm still used to u being MM4 it takes me awhile im rly slow when it comes to these things

[Alisae]

omg she's town
Like when you're reading her posts I think its really clear that I feel like she's trying to understand hte motivations of players

[Alisae]

ok but she's town

[Alisae]

wait r u saying ausuka is scum?

pedit: definitely scum

[Alisae]

look she's not interested in pushing reads shes interested in the truth
she's solving a puzzle
so she's town
I really think she's town but if you are feelin something really good I'll vote it with u

pedit: oh ok
VOTE: insomnia

[Alisae]

I'm starting to have fun fire

[Alisae]

maybe if I do less pushing reads that no one will ever lynch I'll have fun

[Alisae]

A. why ""SPREAD AWARENESS"" about SIGNALLING?? WHY NOT KEEP SECRET and then EXPOSE SCUM WHEN YOU SEE SIGNALLING??

because by then its too late???????????

[Alisae]

OMG FIRE
when I wrote that post I felt like I was not having fun

[Alisae]

yes

[Alisae]

yeah I think he's scum here as well captain
what do we do?

[Alisae]

/me takes away Dr Worm's drums

[Alisae]

uwu whats this?

/me breaks the drumset

[Alisae]

you can do far worse then take his drumset
but that'll scare him

[Alisae]

<-------- STILL HAVE MY DRUMS!!

CHEWBACCA

[Alisae]

can we do both?

[Alisae]

no, I'm just saying that it makes sense for a scumbuddy that knows his scumbuddy is gonna flip to accuse the guys voting scumbuddy of bussing.

Also you said you weren't town reading Ali so I'm not sure why you are against voting there.

Ok but it also makes sense for town!FB to have this read right? is there any reason why this is more likely considering that?

If you don't have a read on Alisae why are you voting eir voters? It seems you're interested enough to help her not eat a rope.

also couldn't this just be that people on the alisae wagon are scummy independently to him?

He doesn’t have a reason, he’s voting each and everyone of us who voted Alisae except for A50 cuz he has no balls to do that.

FB actually did vote A50
but ok

[Alisae]

also Fire I'm on the last episode of Bebop
FA and I were watching it together but she had to go at ep 25 and I need to finish this stuff now so I just finished ep 25 and about to start on the last episode

this shit
is fiiiiiiiiiiiiire

[Alisae]

he voted A50 it counts

[Alisae]

also Fire I'm on the last episode of Bebop
FA and I were watching it together but she had to go at ep 25 and I need to finish this stuff now so I just finished ep 25 and about to start on the last episode

this shit
is fiiiiiiiiiiiiire

bebop is fire. but have u watched code geass?

NO

[Alisae]

I HAD THE ENDING OF CODE GEASS SPOILED FOR ME BECAUSE I WAS AN IDIOT AND I ONLY HAVE MYSELF TO BLAME
I'VE BEEN STILL MEANING TO WATCH IT THO CONSIDERING I THINK I'LL STILL ENJOY IT EVEN WITH THE ENDING BEING SPOILED TO ME

[Alisae]

Ausuka is the rational town person though
she understands me
I can't scumread that
I can't

[Alisae]

Fire its town
trust me on this
plz

[Alisae]

okay, but go watch code geass.

it'll have to wait a day or 2 but yes
I will

[Alisae]

VOTE: Alisae didn’t vote me or Worm after we signaled to her that we’re scum
So she clearly didn’t actually want to use it to sort

Yes the goal wasn't to use it to sort
you're spot on
I'm confused
why did you think my intention was to use it to sort?

[Alisae]

The whole time Alisae’s been pushed it was scum frustration, which is something coming from this mentality “Yeah, I’m scum, but you guys are fucking dumb for voting me without a reason”.

no its just if people played better like Ausuka then this wouldn't be an issue
but sure dude, whatever you say

[Alisae]

The whole time Alisae’s been pushed it was scum frustration, which is something coming from this mentality “Yeah, I’m scum, but you guys are fucking dumb for voting me without a reason”.

no its just if people played better like Ausuka then this wouldn't be an issue
but sure dude, whatever you say

Take your own advice, jc are you terrible at looking town if you are one. Doing nothing, making snarky comments and avoid making reads.

??????????????
My reads are as clear as day?????????
Like are you real????????
I'm very clear with my reads atm but you're not reading my posts because you just wanna assume that I'm doing nothing because thats just waht you want to believe.

[Alisae]

Like fuck you
you don't actually give a shit about my alignment you just want to lynch me and that was your goal coming into the game on page 1
like fuck you and fuck off

[Alisae]

I'm done having fun I'm making this game a fucking toxic shithole because of fucking shitters scumfuck shitters like insomnia and nero cain that just bully me and bully me and all I can fuckign do to respond is panic because I can't fucking handle being a major wagon because no one wants to fucking listen to me

I'm done and I'm ruining everyone's enjoyment out of the game

fuck everyone
no more fun for everyone

[Alisae]

Like fuck you
you don't actually give a shit about my alignment you just want to lynch me and that was your goal coming into the game on page 1
like fuck you and fuck off

Yeah, I wanted to frustrate you for playing poorly.

you're playing poorly but thats okay gang up on the lynchbait that'll help you win the game

"Alisae's lynch is inevitable"
fuck you go fuck yourself

[Alisae]

I don't know how to get it to people's fucking heads that they're wrong because they refuse to believe they're wrong because there's no fucking reasoning with ywall.
You take a stance and believe in it and then you mentally block out what I say because you don't care about figuring out my alignment you just want to lynch some fucking lynchbait and then blame it on me for playing badly

fuck you

[Alisae]

Like this is why I wish more people were like Ausuka and use their brains and actually be a good fucking player
they don't just see a post and jump to it like dogs to a fucking bone
they think and use their brains
If more people would listen to that or read her posts instead of being like fire and going "but nothing they said seems impossible for scum to fake" then villagers would identify each other more and win more games

but no you want to go lynch someone who tried to bring awareness that signalling could be a thing that scum could do and to look out for it because you thought that in of itself is a signal, which makes no fucking sense because that signal literally told THE ENTIRE PLAYERLIST.

[Alisae]

I finished bebop and no
I'm ruining this game
no more fun for anyone because people just want to keep on antagonizing me and being wrong about me and I'm fucking done with it.
I'm pissed off.

[Alisae]

Like when I come play this game I have to worry about people antagonizing me
its not fun
if people are just going to play like that then fuck them they don't get to have fun

[Alisae]

WAAAAH
this AtE is a scum recation
vote Ali they're AtEing like a scumfuck waaaaaaaaaah all of their emotions is fake they're not a human they're scum they don't have feelings they're scum they shoudl be treated as scum forever scum scum scum

oh lets just lynch ali cuz ali is scum

[Alisae]

Acting like a kid is the only thing I can reasonably do because no one would give a fuck if I did anything else
and even then no one is giving a fuck because people just have me permamuted.

[Alisae]

If ANYONE would be paying attention
they would know I have reads
if ANYONE would be paying attention
they would know that I am scumhunting and trying to push reads
if ANYONE would be paying attention
they would know that I am being town

no one wants to pay attention and instead just wants to bully me because they don't want to change their mind or accept that they're wrong

[Alisae]

but instead you just want to lollynch me because I apparently "scumclaimed" when I didn't.
or insomnia who just said that they were going to bully me the entire game and GUESS WHAT
IT GOT TO MY FUCKING HEAD
ITS WORKING

[Alisae]

Can we just vote Nero Cain?
And then that'll flip scum?
And then you'll look at my slot and go "Wow, Ali is so towny" except for A50 who thinks our interactions are theater.
Like, Fire can we just do that?

[Alisae]

i tried to figure out if insomnia was an alt. but i am too lazy to go indepth in this. i skimmed like 2 and half games. This game is way more confrontational than any other game. no idea what that means.

i think insomnia has some weird beef with ali too.

Don’t bother, I’m not.

I have beef with whoever doesn’t play the game and then calls me retarded for scum reading their anti-town behavior.

I'm reporting you for saying that word

[Alisae]

first off I can only describe my play as pro-town except for the parts where I'm fucking freaking out becuase all you've done this whole game is antagonize me.
second off, maybe if you were pushing a read that's not shit like nero cain then we could actually get somewhere.

but you townread nero cain
I don't think I can name things that nero cain did that were actually towny.

[Alisae]

look we just need to unite together and lynch the people who want to keep on pushing me because scum are still thinking that I'm the lynch today.

tbh it could be very possible that I'm just getting beat up by scum and A50 is just town who got caught up in it

but I'm still going to panic regardless because I'm an unrational human being who wants to be liked even by scum.

[Alisae]

Ausuka what do you think I should do?
What do you want me to do?
Just tell me what to do I'lll just do whatever I appreciate your contributions a lot and you're the only person here aside from fire who deserves to have fun.
What do you want me to do.

[Alisae]

ok
im sorry


whats the next step?

[Alisae]

okay let me just ask permission from Fire first
fiiiiiiiiiire
can we lynch Nero Cain?

I think we should follow Ausuka because Ausuka is probably the only person who can convince other people to follow her tbh
she's a perfect town leader

[Alisae]

actually ima just do it anyway
VOTE: Nero Cain

[Alisae]

I'm glad fire that you're a winner in life
I wish I could be a winner in life

[Alisae]

PP can you vote Nero Cain with me?

[Alisae]

I think his push on me is scum indicative.

[Alisae]

LUV vote Nero Cain

[Alisae]

b/c the correct word is interrogation. It is kinda obfuscation.

why should I care about the specific words I'm using?
I'm town and as long as I get my point across I'm good.
Like if anything, I would expect scum to care more about their word choice then town would.

[Alisae]

I think Nero Cain has an out of game grudge on me and is only wanting to lynch me because of out of game influences.

[Alisae]

Like if he's not scum thats the only thing I can think of because if he's town he would have realized that by now

[Alisae]

look im just saying
if he was town
he would have stopped pushing me awhile ago
he didn't
therefore he's scum

[Alisae]

Like I cannot think of why town!Nero would continue trying to push me here
it doesn't make sense.

[Alisae]

your push isn't null tho
if you were town you would have stopped when you were misinterpretting my posts
instead you kept going
so you're scum

[Alisae]

Like I cannot think of why town!Nero would continue trying to push me here

b/c I think you are scum? no, no, I obviously don't think that.

but im not and your wrong and you just refuse to listen to any evidence that proves you wrong because you only want to see things that confirm your belief that you're right

[Alisae]

but when you saw it you kept going
you didn't bother to figure out what I was trying to say you just assumed I was talking about investigative PRs
and you wanted your lynch as quickly as possible to try to end the day as quickly as possible
Like this is scum behavoir here

[Alisae]

here's an interesting question, if you are unwilling to believe that I'm town why should I be willing to believe that you are town?

say we have this conversation
will we actually get anything out of it.

[Alisae]

okay but if I suddenly become willing will you become willing?

[Alisae]

okay who else is scum

[Alisae]

why is Ausuka scum?