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In post 1911, u r a person 2 wrote:so those walls feel to me like svs~~~~~
How on earth was Exilon vs. Ausuka SvS LOLIn post 1913, Exilon wrote:like, wtf urap2?- Detective Pikachu
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This is like... weird to me? We lynched scum back to back 3-4 which for a town is pretty good.In post 2466, Egix96 wrote:
In the sense that I've managed to outrange scum!Egix? Yes.In post 2465, Detective Pikachu wrote:Would you say you feel proud of your play this game?
But in the sense of being happy with how things have turned out this game? No. I feel like I should have done more to prevent Sasha from being lynched and if I had gone with my first instincts we could've lynched the scums much sooner.
More than that, let's think about your play this game:
-You defended Sasha d1, you eventually mislynched Rui but w/e
-You pushed Ausuka starting day 2 and were the front of the wagon to do so, starting that wagon basically as soon as I replaced into the game
-You got Ausuka lynched day 3
-You lynched Skygazer day 4
-Then you mislynched Exilon day 5
Like... you have almost no wrong pushes. That's wild. In the two games you mentioned as your strongest, town lost, and you spent most of each of those games aggressively pushing town slots. This game, you have passively pushed two mislynches but also correctly lynched two scum. Frankly your play this game far outshines either of those two games you mentioned. I frankly don't understand how you aren't ecstatic with your personal play this game even if you do get lynched in lylo.
Like you're arguing you have gone outside your scumrange but I don't see how, but I am very much concerned that your reads accuracy this game is so far above average that it's rather jarring. But on the other hand, you have also spent almost none of this game pushing a scum agenda. For that matter, you've spent almost none of this game wildly flailing around.
The problem is that tonally, in your town games you seem more reactive, more likely to reflect, and more likely to be on a different track. This game your affect feels very flat. But the problem is that most of your logic through pretty much the entire game reads very pure. You basically push no mislynches.
Like if you compare your play to URAP's this game, I would personally be blown away if I was being scumread over him since he spends so much of the game apparently pushing scum agendas. He aggressively defended Ausuka and he set up the mislynch on Exilon in the context of presenting an "auto" mechanical solve of the game through an Ausuka lynch. Like, if he is scum, from your perspective as town, he has played a wildly wolfy game while you have played an incredibly, shockingly pro-town game... I don't get why you're not like, fired up?- Detective Pikachu
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I feel like pages 75-78 should be discussed in post-game
77-78 is pretty clearly the basis for skitter's strong townread on urap going into the EoD when she exited.
exilon also argues that ausuka's egix case slightly spews him scum, which seems to be what skitter felt as well. that doesn't mean they're right but it's definitely how it read to them at the time.
Like Egix, you said there was a "please stop bussing me vibe" in what we discussed earlier. In either scenario, there were very hard busses in 77-78. Either Ausuka decided that she was at risk of going down and wanted the towncred for a redflip on Scum!Egix or Urap realized that they were going to get swept in lylo unless he seriously reversed courses on Ausuka.
Now, it's important to note here that I was kind of expressing a scumread on urap at the time, which means that urap could theoretically have thought that his push on Ausuka would fail and that if he went down he wanted to make sure that he seriously spewed her town. At the time urap was losing both me and skitter due to his hard defense of Ausuka, so he had significant scum motivation to reverse course and bus.
It's also interesting how both Ausuka and urap basically spend page 77 deciding that exilon needs to be lynched
but it's a serious question whether ausuka/urap s/s theater looks like page 78
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Explain why you've outranged scum!Egix in exactly one post.In post 2466, Egix96 wrote:In the sense that I've managed to outrange scum!Egix? Yes.- Detective Pikachu
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AlsoIn post 2409, Egix96 wrote:
Still drudgin'In post 1598, Ausuka wrote:{aus, detective pika pika} obv
{garmr, bob} i don't really see why scum pulls off this fakeclaim here; garmr wasn't under that much pressure.
{urap, exilon} seem genuinely scumhunty
{gamma, inferno} feel kind of town and i don't have any points against either
Don't be misled by the tiers, he's her top town apart from DetPika and the masons
Did you leave out Ausuka's read on you so I didn't "rule of 3" meme you?
In post 1598, Ausuka wrote:{aus, detective pika pika} obv
{garmr, bob} i don't really see why scum pulls off this fakeclaim here; garmr wasn't under that much pressure.
{urap, exilon} seem genuinely scumhunty
{gamma, inferno} feel kind of town and i don't have any points against either
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Here's round 1!
Scenario: It's day 2 and there's no scum flips. One of these two exchanges is scum/scum theater, and the other is town pushing scum! Canyoutell the difference?
Here's the first exchange on DAY 2 between Ausuka and u r a person 2!
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And here's, just a page later, an exchange between Egix and Ausuka right after Detective Pikachu reps into the game!
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Round 2: It's day 5!
Here's Egix voting Exilon!Here's u r a person 2 voting Exilon!
Can you decide which one is scum?
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Round 3: It's day 4.
One of these two is a bus! The other is town voting scum.
In post 2143, u r a person 2 wrote:pika, bob, garmr still town
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VOTE: sky
because her informed revelation is untrue.Can you decide which is which?
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~~~Bonus round -- ROUND 1!~~~
Here's Egix interacting with Almost50, having no significant read on him or interaction with him until eventually soft bussing/distancing!
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And here's Egix on HRG/Skygazer in this game!
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Wait, Jim, can we see those last two again please?
Do Egix's abrupt read changes indicate s/s bussing/distancing?
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~~~BONUS ROUND 2 -- U R A Person 2 EDITION~~~
Here's u r a person 2 talking about "auto" play as scum!
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And here's urap in this game insisting the game is auto over 10 times!
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Does urap avoid commiting to solving through reads as scum when presented with a challenging mechanical situation as scum?
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~~~SUPER VCA BONUS ROUND~~~
Here's literally the only EoD lynch that u r a person 2 and Egix were not both on the same person! Boy VCA sure is helpful, just like NKA~ :3 :3 :3
Is u r a person scum for hammering Sashaddin when I basically said not to do that? Has he been consistently acting out a scum agenda?In post 1731, tris wrote:
Or is he town for directly opposing the preference of the IC?
Were all three scum on the lynch wagon both day 1 and day 2?
Is Egix town for pushing Ausuka on day 2 over Sashaddin?
Or is Egix scum for his push on Ausuka being so forgettable?
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Is Egix town for calling out a read against three loud, vocal town that he doesn't understand?
Or is u r a person 2 town for making a complex townread on Bob that separates scummy behavior from iioa posts that can look scummy at a glance?In post 1063, Egix96 wrote:In post 987, Garmr wrote:Bob is town.In post 991, Inferno390 wrote:Yeah Bob is town here.
Whatever you three are seeing, I'm not seeing it...In post 1006, skitter30 wrote:i think bob is town
In post 75, u r a person 2 wrote:72 comes from town I think.
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Actually can I come back to thisIn post 2478, Detective Pikachu wrote:Round 3: It's day 4.
One of these two is a bus! The other is town voting scum.
In post 2143, u r a person 2 wrote:pika, bob, garmr still town
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exilon, sky, egix
VOTE: sky
because her informed revelation is untrue.Can you decide which is which?
I had suggested that there could be a gated doctor
Why did neither of you think that Skygazer would be trueclaiming (even if scum) that she was informed {functionally that I was BP}
Also can we take a moment and appreciate how insane Skygazer's claim was in retrospect
Also why do neither of you respond to the explosion posts that happen during this day? The only thing weirder than day 4 is the fact that one of you didn't realize Exilon was incredibly town for the nature of Sky's push on him
Like URAP you thought BOTH insane 1v1s with Exilon were s/s? First that massive fight between Ausuka and Exi, and then Skygazer trying to fake-catch Exi in a quasi-mechanical guilty since he actually just inferred I was BP? Like what did you actually think happened at the end of day 4?- Detective Pikachu
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In post 2276, bob3141 wrote:Atleast if det to look back he gets more info- Detective Pikachu
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Egix can I also ask you about the development of your bob read
>You didn't think Sasha voting for bob made Sasha scum, but you don't really say your read of bob
>you call out three people on bob being town
>...but say you would vote gamble over bob
>then agree bob can be 'misguided town'
>and then vote Ausuka in part because of her bob read
>then, even though you're townreading bob enough to vote Ausuka because of him, you ask bob why... he's townreading you?
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if the whole point of this gambit was to bait a townie seeming to TMI and getting a mislynch out of it, why does urap speculate about thisIn post 2054, u r a person 2 wrote:unless DP is hiding a modifier
otoh, why did you think it would be me hiding a modifier and not one of the masons?- Detective Pikachu
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In post 2059, Skygazer wrote:ima ask implo tooI like that Skygazer pretended that implosion ever responds to a PM in 4 minutes
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does urap say this if he's informed the IC is bp?In post 2077, u r a person 2 wrote:some town has failed to full claim their role (which is assuming they are just a BAD player)
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you are just a bad player
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Man Ausuka turning out all the stops if this is s/s theaterIn post 2114, Ausuka wrote:
My username starts with a. So does ascetic.In post 2110, u r a person 2 wrote:
did you crumb this anywhere?In post 2106, Ausuka wrote:I'm actually ascetic so there's the second modifier. This should make me confirmed town.
on the other hand, why are you asking about crumbs to the ascetic when ausuka is lolcatting lol
damn if this isn't a post that I really hateIn post 2138, u r a person 2 wrote:
yeah i mean why would you want to figure out why it's auto from your povIn post 2132, Exilon wrote:I havent gotten around to doing the whole math urap2 sorry but doesn't seem like it'll be necessary after this
this is also scum
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In post 333, u r a person 2 wrote:
Why can't I help her along the path? Isn't that what friends are for?In post 332, Inferno390 wrote:Then why would you ask this question?
If skitter wants to sort you, then shouldn’t she be asking you questions rather than the other way around?
This whole last section feels like you spewing Town in an attempt to get skitter to townread you.
I don’t like that.In post 334, u r a person 2 wrote:Oh, it is me spewing town, you're right about that. If you're town, that should be a good thing from your perspective. Why isn't it?In post 336, u r a person 2 wrote:Like seriously. Someone has been asking me to provide content so that they can sort me for days. Now I'm providing content and you're shading it with a scum motivation, but what would the townie thing to do be? Not provide content? You're either tunneled or arguing in bad faith
Actually one thing I think is interesting here is that when Inferno accuses you of spewing Skitter as town in an attempt to get her to townread you, you seem to deliberately misunderstand his argument so that you make it seem like you're spewing yourself town.In post 2423, u r a person 2 wrote:
this is actually just spewing me town?In post 2405, Egix96 wrote:
YGTIIn post 704, High Risk Gamble wrote:So this is where I'm at after the catch up fully.
URA is obvious town right nowand the fact his wagon started is really bad.
I'm feel less like Sash scum with the VT claim and even though VT lynch / scum lynch isn't a bad choice day 1 I don't think Sash flips scum here.
I don't think that URA's wagon was all town either so Skitter, Inferno or RuiRui have 1-2 scum.
The current RuiRui wagon looks all town other than Skitter. Skitter is just looking for a lynch rather scum hunting and their voting patterns/reasons show this.
If it comes to it I'll vote RuiRui over Sash and URA but I think Skitter is just out right scum and it doesn't look like bussing.
VOTE: Skitter
But in this point about Egix, you clearly understand that HRG would have been "spewing you town"
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I mean you're obviously caught scum here. Skitter recognized that your reads day 1 were faked, Inferno got into a 1v1 with you, and your slot was under increasing pressure. Your entire scum team committed to saving your slot by lynching RuiRui and hoping they wouldn't get too much blowback for it, given that a day 1 scum lynch in a setup with no strongman and a bulletproof IC would be almost certainly game losing for scum. You killed CDB as a non-informational kill and to strengthen townreads on both you and Ausuka, even though his townreads on each of you were unreliable and tentative to change.
On day 2 you were so uninterested in NKA that you actually forgot it was day 2. You did some minor distancing with Ausuka, but got off when the new IC came in and asked for real pushes. Then, you hammered Sashaddin when there was no actual risk of a no lynch given that the IC was online and opposing his lynch; all this did was guarantee that I would not push a CFD onto Ausuka, who was one of my top suspects. Thanks to Garmr's hider claim gambit, this also allowed you to kill Inferno, who had been hard pushing you day 1 and was starting to reconsider his townread on you from day 2. This allowed his death to be read as non-informational while actually giving you the chance to get rid of the one person consistently scumreading you.
The next day you began by hoping you could continue your strategy of open wolfing by hard townreading Ausuka and buying her claim. However, when you realized you were losing both me and skitter because of your defense of Ausuka, you realized you needed to initiate some hard bussing since the game was rapidly approaching an auto-loss for scum. Hence you did a massively long-winded write up explaining why ausuka had to be bussed even though this contradicted your own reads and thought processes. However, you still recognized that none of your three slots would win in end-game. Things really went tits up when you were explaining to Skygazer some of the setup so far, and then she fake-claimed without realizing that *even though she was informed I was BP* that I had not actually claimed BP. The intention of this was to create a mechanical bus on Ausuka that would get Skygazer towncred. However, Skygazer messed it up, and then you nearly actually slipped that you knew I had a modifier. Since you realized I still hadn't claimed BP, you felt the need to hard bus Skygazer on day 4, thinking that I would claim before she was actually lynched. To your surprise, the town agreed with your one-post case and then Sky self hammered before her slot could save itself, while also spewing Exilon scum. You realized that if Exilon never got lynched, you would lose, so keeping analysis to a minimum you slightly pushed him day 5 hoping that bob would go back to his initial read.
Vis-a-vis you have been operating with a scum agenda in mind the entire game, whereas Egix is spewed town by his decision to push Ausuka immediately after my replace in and ask for real cases, as well as by his pure, real thought processes throughout the entire game.
Anyone who looks at the previous page and the "Juxtaposition" game must conclude that you are the scum in this scenario.
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Well most of the replace-outs weren't due to this game specifically; Gamma and HRG both siteflaked so those really are truly NAI. And cby was early in a game with a bp IC so I don't see that as necessarily super AI either. I honestly don't think the replacements on the scum slot this game are actually indicative of the overall scumteam's evaluation of their chances.- Detective Pikachu
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I mean there's a variety of my concerns there. The day 1 Ausuka read both skitter and inferno called out as reading as fake, which to me feels like it was partly due to it occurring one minute after your previous post which suggests you more thought you should be throwing out more townreads or it would sound good rather than that you were thinking about it
Both made at 11:01In post 324, u r a person 2 wrote:Ausuka, also town
I so think all three scum being on the day 1 lynch is more frequent if it's due in part to your slot being under pressure
also, the way you switched to 3rd person with skygazer makes me wonder whether you were actually annoyed at her for creating a mechanical bus that guaranteed ausuka was lynched that day; if you are s/s that was pretty clearly unplanned and that may have been your indication you had to continue bussing her at that point
also, inferno starting to say that he was reconsidering his read on you toward the end of his iso does suggest that scum would have had additional motivation to kill there (although he was already on Ausuka so there was already motivation either way).
It would also be a lot easier to believe that the 1v1 with ausuka and skygazer weren't theater if they weren't totally bogged down in the mech POV; neither one is a hard push based on read but more of a "this is the best way to play this and anyone can see it regardless of my alignment." It looks pretty hard to fake aside from that pretty big issue where you don't really need to engage either one on a deeper level because both are basically mechanically necessary lynches.
If you are scum this game, that is basically the narrative I think.
The other thing is that I don't find nearly as many posts by Egix that bother me like I do with your posts. I mean, he does have 1/4th of your posts, so that's obviously one reason there's fewer things that will jump out. It's also that his writing style often feels hokey so things that would bother me a lot from other people ("Looks like we got ourselves a faker") doesn't bother me nearly as much from me from him here. But still, your ausuka townread, buying ausuka's claim, and setting up a mislynch on Exilon all feel really random to me. I guess partly that's just me having looked at Ausuka's claim and feeling like it seemed like bs from the start so you coming in with a "yeah that sounds" right is like ???
Obviously there's factors that suggest you're town as well, such as Ausuka's reaction to each of your pushes feeling a lot more like Ausuka's reaction to Exilon's push, and Ausuka basically having a very muted, flat response to each of Egix's votes on her. That and forgetting HRG was scum today which was... interesting, but I know you don't like me mentioning the dumbtells even if they're still part of the overall picture (either way, since some of them do seem to be pushing it).- Detective Pikachu
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Yes, my preference in 5-way was Egix-->Urap. Exilon was my pocket town and that's why I thought bob saying Exilon was his pref was "spicy" since that is the one of the three of you I have been saying was town the entire game. I didn't realize how much bob was ignoring my reads and instead going purely off his discussions with garmr in the mason PT which, I guess I should have played around. That and telling you both to unvote, but basically you had both voted for exilon, he hadn't said a preference between you two, and I was *just* starting to talk about how various people's reads had developed over the game.
Like, skitter and inferno both scumread you early, inferno townread you d2 then died, skitter townread you pretty much only coming out of the mechanical talk coming out of the push on ausuka. She consistently said egix's iso was easily fakeable and was bothered by him being too agreeable , but she also openly admitted that your playstyle was difficult for her to process. There's also certain things I think she was right to scumread you for on day 1 and it's not totally implausible for me that she more stopped scumreading you because you knew an effective set of strategies for manipulating her read of you rather than because she was actually wrong from her day 1 impressions.
Garmr thought that "you deserved to win as scum" which is always terrible omen for town when people start saying it so I kinda just want to throw his reads out the window in my mind
CDB had decent reads but he had doubts about you, even though he had you as town and egix as scum
bob had... almost phenomenal reads this game, he very succinctly summarized the towncase on you and the scumcase on egix in day 5 (which is why I was NOT expecting the exilon hammer), but he also kept saying that he wanted to "go back to his early reads" when his early reads actually included a scumread of you so... yeah that happened.
ruirui also didn't "like your pushes" but he was dead too fast to say more than that
So to be clear, while you have been universally townread by the townblock post day 4, days 1-2 literally everyone in the graveyard at some point said they had concerns about your slot even if you weren't one of their stong scumreads.
And unfortunately VCA and NKA provide me very little information, so mostly what I have from dead people is them saying they scumread you early in the game and townread you later in the game. But for many you were outside the PoE because they believed Exilon was scum. If they knew that Exilon was town, then I have to ask myself, how would they evaluate you vs. Egix.
Egix, if scum, has played a very conventional scum game that is well within his range as a scum player, although he made one very surprising decision (deciding to bus Ausuka on day 2) which is atypical for his scum play. Egix, if town, has played an unusually strong towngame but not an impossibly good one, although he seems weirdly disassociated for how strong his reads have been this game if town. His level of passivity this game also goes very strongly against his towngame, where he tends to react to specific posts and then push slots due to like one thing, whereas here he's spent more of the game sheeping and then sitting on wagons all day.
You, if scum, have done some very impressive theater with Ausuka and Skygazer and have wildly expanded your scum range. You, if town, have spent a significant chunk of the game hard defending Ausuka as a scum slot, until you did a massive push... after the slot was already practically doomed due to me and skitter both scumreading Ausuka.
The problem I'm having is that, looking at the big picture, Egix should almost certainly be scum here. Looking at the broad strokes, Egix is quite scummy. But when I read his iso, he doesn't really scream scum to me, and I can find no shortage of wolfy or questionable posts in your iso. Conversely, Ausuka and Skygazer's interactions with you are much harder to see as s/s than the muted, softball interactions between egix and ausuka. So in terms of broad strategy and associatives, egix is scum every time. In terms of individual posts that read as scummy, you are very scummy and egix... not so much. This leaves me with something of a problem given that only one of you is scum.
If I go to lazy reasoning, then we have wim and dumbtells, which strongly point to you being town. The wim thing is hard to say though, given you getting townread by skitter might have warped your meta in a significant way. But I also don't feel like you really stopped posting just because she started townreading you so... hmm. And the dumbtells could be due to cognitive load from playing as scum and trying to keep straight what you're informed of or not.
I'd say I'm still somewhere between 55% Egix scum and you 55% town but you have so many early wolfy posts that I find it very difficult to want to throw down a hammer with those odds. Like your push on sashaddin just reads so gross to me, your townread on ausuka I can't see where you're coming from in the early game, and I really hated the sashaddin hammer, the shade on exilon, and the exilon vote. The "auto" stuff also bugs me. There's a lot of very specific things I don't like in your iso, whereas with Egix its more... "well, he seems to have a very flat affect and is like mechanically analytical whereas his strong town games he links he seems more excited and almost kinda bloodthirsty" so this kinda reads like he can be scum here even though there's no specific post from him that I can easily point to and say "thar be scum"- Detective Pikachu
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Oh yeah, Exilon also thought Ausuka spewed Egix scum which fit his solve anyway, so actually I think the strongest advocate of Egix scum and you town is the guy you lynched yesterday LOL
Exilon was one of the few people on day 1 consistently calling you TvT with Inferno and he was one of the strongest supporters of Egix scum (i.e. 1043)- Detective Pikachu
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idk, I feel like more time I give it the more time there is to evaluate towntells or give scum a chance to slip.
It's harder in 3-way because of the mecahnical lock between you two (kinda why I wanted this to be more how 5-way went so then I could talk with bob directly about things).
Like looking back on Exilon's case on Egix, one thing that bothers me is that 205 and 206 are fencesitting, but they're also 15 minutes apart, which suggests to me that Egix either was really reviewing the games or at least wanted to put on a convincing show of doing so
but Exilon is right that 165 and 167 are weird and the movement to 233 is a bit surprising
I'm inclined to agree that 233 is, on the whole, kinda a scummy post. But it was also the "slam dunk" post that made Exilon so sure on Egix for most of the game but I'm just not nearly as sure as he is.
In comparison, I feel like I understand skitter's problems with you in 196 a lot more. It also bothers me how you twice did the "oh and one more townread" post, first with bob and then with Ausuka as you do in 323 and 324. I can very easily see you repeating that behavior (throwing an extra naked townread after two short reads townreads) to obfuscate your reads as scum post-flip, and I can see that as obfuscating behavior slightly more easily than I can see it as snap reads reactions
It really bothers me that in looking at Exilon's case I can get why he didn't like Egix on day 1 but I also don't feel like it's nearly as much as a slam dunk "this is a scummy post" as skitter's reaction to your Sash vote even though skitter didn't hard scumread you for it just because of that one post
still can keep thinking about bob's arguments, probably keep playing with that tomorrow.- Detective Pikachu
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I can still see 1056 coming from scum very easily, didn't do the town meta review of urap yet and still want to think more about bob's case arguments on egix associatives.
Egix it is not easier to reevaluate you with you basically just vanishing from the thread fyi, we're not like pressed for time but we are over the halfway mark here and I am starting to reach the point even for me that I wanna just hammer you and call it a wash if you do somehow flip town- Detective Pikachu
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I mean, I'm not. The reason I haven't voted yet is that I'm not sure lol. If I was sure then I would have voted by now.
As I said, gamestate and associatives heavily point to you, but urap's iso and individual posts ping me more. I think the associatives weighed more heavily for bob and skitter.
Like, are you scum? I'm probably going to *eventually* hammer you if you're scum, but if you're town there may still be hope. If there is town in your iso there is a chance I will find it but if you're not then I probably just won't. I don't know what else to say.
Like usually in lylo I want to find something like "town never says THIS" or "this comes from scum EVERY time"
but in this game there are things in each of your isos that are kinda concerning, one or two specific posts from urap that bother me quite a bit, and a big hole where I keep expecting to find a really strong towntell from you. the closest I get is your bob post, which unfortunately is wrong but wrong in a kinda townie way (and also kinda doesn't jive well with your read progression), and your push on Ausuka immediately after I repped in which is like, interesting timing to choose to bus, particularly for you given I know that you don't really see yourself as the solo-endgame type
If you're town I don't really want you to just give up hope or stop having fun. Actually I hope you're still having fun as scum too, idk I don't feel like this reads like how you approached 5-way lylo as town in one of those games you linked but this is kinda a diff scenario too. You seem demoralized and out of it which could be because you think you've let your team down as scum I guess? I promise you, you didn't, even if you self-hammered here that would not be letting your team down. you should feel proud of this game regardless of your alignment frankly
you've also been kinda vague on how this game has exceeded your scumrange even though you argued it does
like I COULD hammer urap here for his sasha vote, his ausuka townread, or his exilon shade post ausuka hammer... those are three legitimate reasons to lynch urap this game. But I can't do that when I look at your iso and see like, three words with HRG and that level of interaction basically matches how you play scum.- Detective Pikachu
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