open 759: house party (compleded)
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We (we use 'we' but mean 'I;' little known fact, the Vengaboys have been a singular entity since 2006) haven't had much of a chance to catch up yet (what can we say, we like to party...).
However, we have some reads that are astoundingly similar to our predecessor's reads. For instance, we're townreading the following players:
Golden RASpberry
Inbred Lannisters
RedPanda
You could say that we're townreading these players so hard that we want them in our room (our party room?).
It seems that duppin is already partying (good for you! We like to party too!) but our read there is slightly less strong than the above three.
A case has been presented against Edgar Allen Foe! It's a very good case. We went ahead and modified a little song of ours to present our first vote (granted, it's the same vote that our predecessor Skygazer made, but we like the dramatic effect of the song!)
Thank you for listening to our song!
VOTE: Edgar Allen Foe- Vengaboys
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We're going to start off by isoing the best bird in this game! That's right, we're talking about...
PenguinPower!
This penguin isn't a normal penguin; he's spending a significant amount of his energy trying to get invited to a party!
Spoiler: This Penguin likes to party a bit toooo much...
Next up, we're going to look at the amount of fluff-posts he has and compare that to other games he's in. We feel like he's fluffposting a lot more here than his townself, but we just want to go and verify that at some point today. Additionally, we remember him complaining quite a bit about fluffposting in another game we've seen him in, so we want to go check that out. Stay tuned!!- Vengaboys
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After reading PP's iso again and crosschecking it with other games he's played in, we don't think there's that much different in terms of surface level stuff. That being said we feel like he's quite a bit more fluffy here and we still think that his attempts to push himself into a party with two people we know are town (HK/ourself) and one slot we think is town (GRASS) makes me think he's been pushing an agenda. We're going to do a littttttle bit more digging around there but we think that he's below null at the moment in terms of our reads. So, for the people we have reads on so far:
{GRASS, Lannisters, RedPanda}
{duppin}
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{PenguinPower}
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Eh
Weird progression
Lynch bait
Potential lynch bait?
More lynch bait, I don't really like these one-liners tonallyIn post 952, PenguinPower wrote:
Why does Nancy's view strengthen yours?In post 929, Hell Knight wrote:If nance thinks he’s obvscum and we think he’s scum, let’s vote here
I literally copy/pasted Kirari's suggestion...In post 929, Hell Knight wrote:I think he was buddying us when he proposed us for the party
Like...wut?
Fake fake fake fake.In post 929, Hell Knight wrote:And I fell for it
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The paranoia here feels like a weird shade/kind of agenda-yIn post 2218, PenguinPower wrote:HEAL: Golden RAS
Pocketing successful.
I have to say the addition of RAS to duck makes me uberparanoid I’m not going to be able to correctly read the slot but...oh well.
We feel like tw has town-told a ton before the replace-in and is continuing to town-tell after RAS joined- Vengaboys
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To sum up PP, he looks very similar to his town-meta on the surface level but there's almost no gamesolving until maybe halfway through and that consists of just him pushing lynch bait/reacting to scum reads on him/asking questions that I find emptier than his usual questions (additionally his questioning here feels more like pushy whereas his town meta questions feel like he's genuinely trying to sort stuff out)
Idk, I feel like I could definitely be wrong here but I feel like PP has high scum equity especially when you consider how hard he pushed for himself to be in the party.- Vengaboys
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Can you expand on this?In post 2301, Golden RASpberry wrote:He's positioning himself the way he does unconsciously as town including before my replace in.
Possibly. I get that way sometimes which is why I asked you.I think a lot of the stuff you're concerned about is a little confbiasy?
I mean I voted anime person and even hammered Baezu. But I feel like lynch-baity wagons can still be scum driven. I mean, just look at where PP decided to hop on the wagons:I think biting down on lynchbait isn't inherently scum indicative. I voted anime person too before RAS townread her.
Hell Knight (4): Yumeko Jabami, Fuscosco, Kirari Momobami, PenguinPowerYumeko Jabami (5): Skygazer, Uncle Bob, RedPanda, PenguinPower, Titus
I don't really like those votes at all in terms of wagonomics. It feels more like shifting with the strongest wagons rather than just accidentally SRing lynchbait.Hell Knight (7): Yumeko Jabami, duppin, Edgar Allan Foe, Inbred Lannisters, PenguinPower, Kirari Momobami, Titus
Fair point.Hell Knight/Baezu-head infamously has ~dat wolfy tone~ so given PP has been busy irl I think she's a natural scumread via tone.
Define "shows an agenda?" Like I think him pushing for the house-cats/pushing for himself to be in the party could very well be agenda-y, I feel like him wagon-hopping in the way he did could also be a sign of an agenda to score an easy mislynch or something. That sounds kinda conf-biasy after typing it out. I'm not really seeing any strong town motivation from him anywhere though. Have you or RAS seen any?Do you think there's anything that shows like a scum agenda/mindset in his approach to the game? Or are you kinda just not seeing strong town motivation?
Personally I'm just not super-sold on bob/Titus, at least not as much as I am on EAF. How confident are you two on your 3/3 solve?- Vengaboys
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I know you vaguely ig? Not too many games played together? How long have you been on VLA? I think a lot of what I said applies to D1 stuff but I'm struggling to remember how long you've been on VLAIn post 2305, PenguinPower wrote:Who are you?
Like I feel like you know me but you should also account for the fact that I’m vla in your “second half” assessment.- Vengaboys
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We replaced skygazerIn post 2310, Golden RASpberry wrote:Spoiler: votes atm
unofficial;
Edgar Allan Foe (4): Golden RASpberry, CheekyTeeky, Skygazer, Inbred Lannisters
PenguinPower (2): RedPanda, Yumeko Jabami
Titus (1): Fuscosco
not voting (5): Edgar Allan Foe, Titus, PenguinPower, Uncle Bob, duppin- Vengaboys
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We just saw this!! Wow, this is a very obvious appeal to emotion. At least you got to enjoy a small bit of time partying.In post 2187, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:I mean shit man, minus the fact that I know it's wrong by nature of my role PM that's a pretty convincing case? Fuck, I'd vote me if I wasn't me, based on that case. I accept my lynch, unfortunate as it is. Seems my attempt sot change my playstyle to be less hyperactive just resulted in my stuff turning to shit. Apologies. At the very least let's replace me with Golden within the party, because there's ~0.0001% odds it flips scum.
Let me use the maximum amount of time available to put down plans for what happens when their solve ISN'T accurate and we have to re-calibrate.
And then I'll root? Rot? From the dead PT.- Vengaboys
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Fair enough, we can't say we have a solid grasp on your meta.In post 2320, PenguinPower wrote:
Well if you’re including D1 then you don’t know me.In post 2311, Vengaboys wrote:
I know you vaguely ig? Not too many games played together? How long have you been on VLA? I think a lot of what I said applies to D1 stuff but I'm struggling to remember how long you've been on VLAIn post 2305, PenguinPower wrote:Who are you?
Like I feel like you know me but you should also account for the fact that I’m vla in your “second half” assessment.- Vengaboys
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Good point. Still wouldn't be surprised if she flipped town but I'll probably vote her especially if Edgar flips wolf.In post 2330, Golden RASpberry wrote:Her "not impressed with the hydra repping in and being partied" is like ridiculous. Firstly there is explicitly not town motivation in being annoyed at that. Secondly, I was basically omw to getting healed before RAS got involved. Thirdly she's spectacularly ignoring everything else that happens itt.
I've seen Titus before. Vca is her strong point but she doesn't katsuki shitpost her way through the game until she can vca. She plays a game, and she's playing a wolfgame here.
Has my slot been townblocked yet?In post 2332, Golden RASpberry wrote:We have a lot of clearly town players too :U
I mean, scum lethargy is definitely a thing. Edgar definitely tried to get out of it with some Appeal to Emotion but it didn't really work so if he's a wolf it's not really surprising for him to peace out like this in my onion, especially if he's trying not to spew.In post 2357, RedPanda wrote:I did not want to write this before hearing from yumeko and duppin but since EAF is at L-1, I have no choice.
This is being rushed too much and you guys are missing something obvious.
EAF flipping scum is autowin for town so EAF being suicidal fucks over his partners too. Scum would do everything to protect the scumslot in the party and the only person defending EAF is me.- Vengaboys
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Can you give like a one or two or, if you're feeling adventurous, even a three-liner reason why?In post 2360, PenguinPower wrote:
Town.In post 2356, CheekyTeeky wrote:PP what's your read on Titus?- Vengaboys
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I replaced the user known as "Skygazer," who has a very good taste in music apparentlyIn post 2364, CheekyTeeky wrote:My onion is that you're pocketing Venga. Who did you replace?- Vengaboys
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That's a single line, I'm counting it!In post 2368, PenguinPower wrote:
Nope.In post 2365, Vengaboys wrote:
Can you give like a one or two or, if you're feeling adventurous, even a three-liner reason why?In post 2360, PenguinPower wrote:
Town.In post 2356, CheekyTeeky wrote:PP what's your read on Titus?- Vengaboys
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In post 2372, CheekyTeeky wrote:Some more onions would be nice
Not our style, but this is what Google came up with...- Vengaboys
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I don't really think my slot is in danger of being lynched considering the combined ability of GRASS to correctly read my predecessor. I also very much did not try to push today to PenguinPower, I was just taking a peek because I'm not entirely satisfied with the 3/3 solve and my predecessor seemed to think there was something there to take a look at.- Vengaboys
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that is not the first post i made??In post 2531, Titus wrote:
Project much? This is the first post u made and it's about lynching the second most lynchable slot.In post 2530, Vengaboys wrote:I think notes' focus on very lynchable slots is more likely to come from scum than town.- Vengaboys
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In post 1681, Cabd wrote:
You can try to use your newfound time to go back and elaborate on the reads detail you owed me.In post 1677, PenguinPower wrote:
Need to find a way to get there now!In post 1666, CheekyTeeky wrote:Caymans sounds nice!In post 1683, Edgar Allan Foe wrote:
God fucking damn it I've been so good about it.In post 1681, Cabd wrote:
You can try to use your newfound time to go back and elaborate on the reads detail you owed me.In post 1677, PenguinPower wrote:
Need to find a way to get there now!In post 1666, CheekyTeeky wrote:Caymans sounds nice!
Mine.- Vengaboys
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I'm not an alt!In post 2583, Skygazer wrote:cool alt idea btw- Vengaboys
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I'm planning on playing more on this site it's pretty funIn post 2585, the worst wrote:I hope we get to play more soon<3 - Vengaboys
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