open 759: house party (compleded)

[Inbred Lannisters]

2451 is literally how to be good at town.
Also pls note Titus has gone from mechtalk and intent to lynch outside the party to shading everyone in the party....

Yes, because changing the party was 100% proscum. I stand by what I said. Just like I stand by day 1 that two random even parties was best.

Spoiler:

~T

You want me to elaborate why the two random party setup was best? Or how changing the party is proscum?

Sure but let me get my lobotomy first, kthanx.

~T

[Golden RASpberry]

HEAL: Nobody.

[Titus]

2451 is literally how to be good at town.
Also pls note Titus has gone from mechtalk and intent to lynch outside the party to shading everyone in the party....

Yes, because changing the party was 100% proscum. I stand by what I said. Just like I stand by day 1 that two random even parties was best.

Spoiler:

~T

You want me to elaborate why the two random party setup was best? Or how changing the party is proscum?

Sure but let me get my lobotomy first, kthanx.

~T

Playing with comments like this is really unenjoyable. Tell me whichever head this is and I will limit playing any mechanically intense setups where logic is involved. I get groups can decide on suboptimal options and I can lose a debate. Yet this is just abusive.

[Inbred Lannisters]

Or how changing the party is proscum?

I don't think RAS' inclusion to the party makes much of a mechanical difference if he's scum, since they could endgame with a Party NK across the border.
I still think Coalition strategy > Random Party, but that discussion's not fruitful now.

-Joff

[Titus]

I play this for fun not to be berated until I am miynched or town lose due to the inability to follow basic logic because it's not touchy feely.

[Golden RASpberry]

Playing with comments like this is really unenjoyable. Tell me whichever head this is and I will limit playing any mechanically intense setups where logic is involved. I get groups can decide on suboptimal options and I can lose a debate. Yet this is just abusive.

It's equally as unenjoyable to have a scum team try to win while in auto-lose, yet here we are.

[Inbred Lannisters]

Titus, think about it - the mechanical paths for a scum victory are the same if RAS is scum, as at endgame it doesn't matter if RAS is outside the party or in it to make the final, game-winning (for scum) Night Kill. Adding him to the party is +EV if he's town though.

I'd be happy to debate strategies post-game mathematically, but right now what's the point?

-Joff

[Titus]

Or how changing the party is proscum?

I don't think RAS' inclusion to the party makes much of a mechanical difference if he's scum, since they could endgame with a Party NK across the border.
I still think Coalition strategy > Random Party, but that discussion's not fruitful now.

-Joff

But if you felt I believed it but was shouted down, wouldn't that change how you feel about me?

[Inbred Lannisters]

It's equally as unenjoyable to have a scum team try to win while in auto-lose, yet here we are.

No, GRas. Even if she's scum, let her try.

-Joff

[Inbred Lannisters]

But if you felt I believed it but was shouted down, wouldn't that change how you feel about me?

Not much, because that never really factored in to

why

I'm scumreading you.
If you want to lead a lynch in the House, who would you go for?

-Joff

[Titus]

Playing with comments like this is really unenjoyable. Tell me whichever head this is and I will limit playing any mechanically intense setups where logic is involved. I get groups can decide on suboptimal options and I can lose a debate. Yet this is just abusive.

It's equally as unenjoyable to have a scum team try to win while in auto-lose, yet here we are.

No matter who the scum team are it is not auto lose. You said it yourself, two scum can try to create paranoia in the party.

Yet, if you ethically and honestly felt you caught the entire scumteam day 2, wouldn't you enjoy the squirm?

[Golden RASpberry]

It's equally as unenjoyable to have a scum team try to win while in auto-lose, yet here we are.

No, GRas. Even if she's scum, let her try.

-Joff

Her only path to victory is getting our lynched slot before she or Uncle Bob gets lynched, and that's never happening. Duck & I both believed this was going to be a concede overnight so it's not about "letting her try".

It's just a matter of time until the other players show up and vote her. There's no amount of trying that will get her out of this situation.

[Golden RASpberry]

Yet, if you ethically and honestly felt you caught the entire scumteam day 2, wouldn't you enjoy the squirm?

I'm enjoying it, but this is a waste of F'n time.

[Golden RASpberry]

...our slot lynched*...

EBWOP.

For the record, I'm not trying to be rude or belittle her for trying, but FMPOV this is only dragging the game along for no reason.

[Titus]

But if you felt I believed it but was shouted down, wouldn't that change how you feel about me?

Not much, because that never really factored in to

why

I'm scumreading you.
If you want to lead a lynch in the House, who would you go for?

-Joff

Gras.

1) He advocating adding himself to the party.
2) Changing himself out for EAF gives him the cred to survive.
3) He was added to the party without resistance
4) GRAS has had no scumhunting posts after being the hydra, just spamming his theory.
5) You've never felt like scum as a hydra, just loud and wrong.
6) Fusco doesn't feel like the multiball Fusco from my last game with him.
7) Duppin feels like lynchbait but has done more hunting.

[Inbred Lannisters]

Her only path to victory is getting our lynched slot before she or Uncle Bob gets lynched, and that's never happening. Duck & I both believed this was going to be a concede overnight so it's not about "letting her try".

It's just a matter of time until the other players show up and vote her. There's no amount of trying that will get her out of this situation.

Yes, she's the lynch today. But I think it's fine to listen to her treating her as town.

-Joff

[Inbred Lannisters]

Gras.

1) He advocating adding himself to the party.
2) Changing himself out for EAF gives him the cred to survive.
3) He was added to the party without resistance
4) GRAS has had no scumhunting posts after being the hydra, just spamming his theory.
5) You've never felt like scum as a hydra, just loud and wrong.
6) Fusco doesn't feel like the multiball Fusco from my last game with him.
7) Duppin feels like lynchbait but has done more hunting.

I said in the House, Titus. Not in the Party.

-Joff

[Titus]

Bob or Vengaboys

[Titus]

Her only path to victory is getting our lynched slot before she or Uncle Bob gets lynched, and that's never happening. Duck & I both believed this was going to be a concede overnight so it's not about "letting her try".

It's just a matter of time until the other players show up and vote her. There's no amount of trying that will get her out of this situation.

Yes, she's the lynch today. But I think it's fine to listen to her treating her as town.

-Joff

If you really feel like this, then I'll go to sleep and wait for whomever will actually listen to what I say.

[RedPanda]

Titus do you not think EAF flip helps duppin fusc and ibl against gras?

[Titus]

Titus do you not think EAF flip helps duppin fusc and ibl against gras?

No. Not at all. Gras would spam he'd get all the credit and people would believe him.

[Inbred Lannisters]

If you really feel like this, then I'll go to sleep and wait for whomever will actually listen to what I say.

You do realize that whatever you're saying now is guaranteed town!speak once you're flipped, right?
I think you're the best flip, and if you

are

town then I'd love your inputs going into the next day.



-Joff

[Inbred Lannisters]

Think of this as a twilight discussion, I'm all ears. Let's go through House reads..?

-Joff

[Titus]

If you really feel like this, then I'll go to sleep and wait for whomever will actually listen to what I say.

You do realize that whatever you're saying now is guaranteed town!speak once you're flipped, right?
I think you're the best flip, and if you

are

town then I'd love your inputs going into the next day.



-Joff

Great, so what about me being town makes me correct?

That's what GRAS or any competent scum would say. She's insane. That's why she was lynched.

My argument dies with me.

[Titus]

Think of this as a twilight discussion, I'm all ears. Let's go through House reads..?

-Joff

Tomorrow. Not doing this at 2:30 AM.