The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

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Chemist1422, Vengaboys, and Gamma Emerald will indefinitely be unable to post in this thread

The actual fuck is this game mechanic?

VOTE: Chemist does anything?

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Also- hi again to Fusco, skitter, irrelephant, Half of the big Hydra, mastina, duck, Chemist, Titus, and Gamma
Nice to meet the rest of you

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I understand everything now, thank you @mod

/s

Right

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So how would we verify this
or keep track of such BS

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noooo waaaaaaaay
I am mind blown by that logic

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~Aramis

= priest = holy =.... uhhh
not roster
not NC
sure as hell not FL?

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Sure let's just completely ignore the remaining players and just lynch Mastina in RVS

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@to all third parties

Anyone who's wincon is not mutually exclusive to mine and volunteers to cooperate has my undying and unwavering loyalty for the rest of the game.

Hit me up

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Smh at all of you

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@shaddmod

Can we vote/lynch those 3 that can't talk?

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lovely to see you as always skitter
*grumbles*

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It worked so well in this other game so I'm hoping to achieve the same level of success

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faking his interest

Even if I were "insert party here", I wouldn't actually understand any of the mechanics involved so I'd be

genuinely

interested anyway

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scum informed

town and not informed

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I'm really hoping that there's at least one townie who can tell us useful stuff like

"I’m an informed Miller who knows there isn’t any Loyal modifiers and there is a total of 4 scum. -Morality"

Or a third party that's willing to spoonfeed stuff to us in exchange for cooperation

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this
VOTE: old dogs

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THANK YOU

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I don't see what the problem is with working with a survivor.
If our winconditions align, there's no mechanical edge to gain by ever lynching them, provided they cooperate with us.

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pedit: our wincons dont align at all (survivor's is to just live) but that doesnt mean we should kill them

Sorry- by align I meant 'not mutually exclusive'

Also wtf who has a "plan for EoD" before everyone even checks into the thread

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Can we stop clogging the thread with hypotheticals?

We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
In the meanwhile, let's townhunt instead of discussing when and how best to lynch the survivor (*smh*)

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Scumhunting with "significant 3p component" is like scumhunting in multiball- townhunting is easier IMHO.

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single, hardclaimed survivor is not multiball

You've uuhh read the description of this game yes?

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The name confusion is going to be real

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honey........ lmao

multitasking is not multiball fsjadlkfjad;slfja;k

Sweetie- you've read this introduction bit right? Particularlystuff like
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=79867
"a scary 3rd party element!!!"
"there will be between 0 and 1 redirection abilities. it is not really role madness. no psychologist"

Obviously there's going to be quite a bit more than our survivor, and I'm assuming that it'd be more productive to approach this game like a multi-ball game rather than a traditional single ball game.

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a) does it concern u at all that you're like ... the only person who wasn't concerned by the survivor claim ? it concerns me. like i like three musketeers; they're pov matched mine like a lot and the way they explained it was townie af. same with zzzx. yours i feel like i can't track at all

a) are we pretending vorkuta doesnt exist or

*waves*

Yeah I'm not at all concerned by the survivor claim and will be opposing all wagons on them provided they don't stonewall the game by refusing to hammer or stuff like that

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to tease you lol

BAD DOG. SIt. Go think about what you've done. No treats for you.

how do u feel about 1130

I have an amazing first impression from their (prolly skitter's? unlike to be irrelephant's) very first post.
I'm not a huge fan of the hardcore mechanical discussion WALLS clogging up the thread especially when not everyone has even checked in yet, but I can't read the hydra without more interactions

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Yep- I love it.

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it was the most ??? sketchy thing that i saw in the first two pages so i decided to vote there

This just gets a default reaction from me for now. Nothing more

i think i'll drop it now;

I buy this and the deescalation

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I'm informed that the scumteam has factional information on the nature of the setup not available to the town.

*sighs*
yes yes very funny

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One which I hard fucking disagree with, mind you, but which exists all the same.

Thank you

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This should be FL

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I'm actually willing to lynch a jester on D1 provided we don't lose as a result

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There is supposed to to be considerable 3rd party.
1 survivour doesn't seem to be considerable 3rd party.

+1

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no tries to solve the game

Hey I'm just waiting for this shit-flinging to stop so we can actually discuss or speculate on the third party mechanic.

I personally think that the 3rd parties (purely based on the way schadd hyped it up early on) are more dangerous to that core!scum is

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cool

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prodging because IRL stuff- will catch up later

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Anyone that scumreads me on D1 is in effect scum claiming.

please revise your reads now and proceed as usual

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This is known as denying the antecedent

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Oh good I can finally post
@Chickadee- imgspoiler for you

Spoiler:

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My assessment of my own performance this game has no connection to the previous statement

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No, it's serious

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*yaaaaaawns*
easy- caught 1 already

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I liked the ZZZX wall
it was a fun read- he can be not!corescum

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insomnia, i think you may be scum

+1

But it's a baseless read so you won't have to entertain it and this push is horrible

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Thank you for scumclaiming as well

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oh man what if I rolled jester this game
*ahem*

No I had IRL stuff to do which put me behind in the games that I'm in
now that I could catch up, it was quite difficult to insert myself into the middle of other people duking it out so I just took mental notes

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Vorkuta what are your reads?

We don't lynch any third parties today (no read on them)
anyone who've clogged the thread with 3rd party mechanics isn't doing it from a 100% pro-town stance (scum lean)
anyone who scum reads me is also a scumlean

the rest are towny

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Oh also 0% chance Vorkuta/zeebu are groupscum together

which orifice did you pull this out from?

Like... neither of us has ever even acknowledged each other and you're drawing associations from where exactly?

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You keep saying this, and it never gets better.

it's just a fact *shrugs*

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I don't think this is ever how scum talks about their scumpartner who claimed survivor who is later going to unclaim survivor

oh lol

ok I get your reasoning
zeebu didn't even check into the game at that point
but you think it's beyond my/our collective scum-ranges to do this sort of exchange
noted

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Hey, I just want to have a nice, simple, boring, and honest game while the third parties go around causing chaos.

Half of this game is some form of "what do we do with 3ps" as opposed to core!scum hunting, and I think that's intentional.

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Hi nice to meet you insomnia

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Quad hydra is fun- I only dislike one head and that's it

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who's aramis

uncultured swine

which one is d'artagnan btw?

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I'm sorry, that was more meant to make fun of mine than yours.

+1

I thought it was tongue-in-cheek mocking his quadruple negative usage in the same sentence

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Oh boy it's the fun one

Papa Porthos- is insomnia scum this game or not?

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I feel violated if that's the case

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Huh did I catch all 3?

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pedit: you caught me (cleverly) in your trap...

ok we can lynch you last

pisskop, are you actually

fuckso

fucksuco

fuscosco?

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Yeah but I've seen alts replace into their mains so I'm asking if this is your thing or not

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this was pretty irritating.

ORZ

Why ask if I was the alt though. Does it change your read of the slot?

Slightly given how I finally have a sense of how scum you plays- gonna ISO you from C9++ and get back to you on this then
Really fitting that was a multiball game

I think vorkuta rolled 3p this game.

you make this assumption after openly announcing that I would cooperate with 3ps?

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I honestly don't have anything but self-meta to rebut this with
like look at how I dealt with awestfie in BTXI: I'm perfectly fine with cooperating/working with helpful 3ps and I don't subscribe to the "3ps are just as bad as scum" trend
ONU UW (such a mafia game) as well

wait those games didn't end well for me wtf

Also I'm sure I'd play 3p better. At least I'll do my homework and see how successful players have done it

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Ok
I'm a survivor
that is town aligned
and can die
and wins if town wins
but im a survivor so please dont lynch or NK me

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would you? I dont honestly know if you consider yourself to be a researcher or not.

but I'm not 3p so I didn't

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oh yeah
why are we completely ignoring the people who can't post in here?

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VOTE: insomnia
I do what I can

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In other news, pisskop has just claimed third party

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inb4 he names hydra heads as well

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wait no is this a joke what the hell why wasn't I warned please don't

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wait is he for real
can I keep

shitposting

solving or is this like "twilight" for me?

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I'm uh... not 3p....
I'm town

Also *looks at your sig*...

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Wait ok I invoke my newbie card

Am I being trolled, or is this literally the end of the game for me?

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wait but doesn't he have to like PM his action to the mod or something?

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*inhales*

No like I'm fairly used to being day-vigged as a joke

but this seems like a game where a day-vig might actually be a thing so I was genuinely concerned for half a second

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am I conf!town yet though?

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oh
ok

so just like a third of this roster
not claiming shit after what you put me through

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I'm too shellshocked to be able to provide reads of any quality at this moment in time.
Plus I'll become more useful in a bit

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I don't know anything about toog, but like a third of the people here view a survivor as our enemy so...

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Guys

the only way I can be a 3P
is if I quote my role PM, break the rules, and get modkilled and turned into a survivor.

Else, I'm town

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mostly just snarky nai

yes- this is town!vork speaking, how may I help you?

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After EoD, they probably get to rejoin the main thread or something

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VOTE: toog
I can do that

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I still do not like the "town read me or else" posts

just wanted to throw it out and see how many people would bite

You talked a lot about scum reading Old Dogs though. Has that read changed? Can you talk to me about it?

In the interest of full disclosure- it was an attempt to gauge titus's (at least that's the head I'm familiar with- they don't sign, so I just assume quite a bit if it is from lawyer = titus) alignment.

I primarily disliked their focus on pure mechanics and semantics and how they weren't trying to look for associations between people.
However that's changed and they can be townbinned

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oh I get how it works now

dayvig: insomnia

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but you scumclaimed so itsk

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I feel sufficiently humiliated, you can stop now

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.....
How is this on me
VOTE: insomnia

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I'm just... expressionless at this point

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VOTE: ZZZXXXX

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mostly just snarky nai

yes- this is town!vork speaking, how may I help you?

VOTE: toog

do this with me

Oh wait no, I literally promised zeebu I'd do this with him sorry
VOTE: toog

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I sheep pisskop

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VOTE: chickadee

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Spoiler:

Ok. I initially went into Vork's ISO because I didn't like the slot.

@to all third parties

Anyone who's wincon is not mutually exclusive to mine and volunteers to cooperate has my undying and unwavering loyalty for the rest of the game.

Hit me up

This felt weird to me, and was the first thing that pinged me.

pedit: our wincons dont align at all (survivor's is to just live) but that doesnt mean we should kill them

Sorry- by align I meant 'not mutually exclusive'

Also wtf who has a "plan for EoD" before everyone even checks into the thread

But then I found this, and following a bunch of other posts that I actually really do like. So I'm putting Vork in my town pile.
(ftw Vork, I still do not like the "town read me or else" posts)

I think there's town motivation behind a lot fo your posts...or at least town win con motivation.


You talked a lot about scum reading Old Dogs though. Has that read changed? Can you talk to me about it? They were one of my earliest and strongest town reads. If it has changed, Don't worry about it.

But I liked ^
It felt solvey and I got townread

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Right

I go on ~24 hour long

nuclear icebreaker trip

donkey cart ride

transsiberian railway stretch

aeroplane flight

so I'm out for a while
cheers

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Guys

the only way I can be a 3P
is if I quote my role PM, break the rules, and get modkilled and turned into a survivor.

Else, I'm town

oopsies sorry for the prod

I already said ^
and we've all agreed that I'm not core!scum

this makes me town so kindly vote someplace more useful

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zzzzzzzz

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Oh man did I catch a scum!toog?

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oh man look at all of these non-town people on my wagon