The Mystery Box Of Silver 5: Clash of Cash death grips

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so let me know when RAS makes a vote so I can sheep him ty

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Hi.
I'm a town fakeclaimer.

I win if I get everyone in the game to believe my fakeclaim.

Btw I'm a VT.

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btw mastina's role isn't acutally real
if it was real, schadd would make it so she couldn't claim her real role, since just claiming that ur a town fakeclaimer isn't actually fakeclaiming and going against the spirit of your role.
The fact she claimed that she was a town fakerclaimer makes her claim fake.

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Yeah Aramis is probably the last head I would have guessed to post first to this game, pretty funny

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Egopost!

~ Pichu

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This early game is pretty universally terrible

~ Pichu

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I'll catch up eventually when something more interesting happens

~ Pichu

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Meanie

~ Pichu

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Hi, head number two is Blake Belladonna.

I already altslipped this account like a noob.

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I'm still going to be lazy, though.

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Chickadead slot

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Why?

Spite. (Not at the duck)

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7 was posted before RASGate, mastina

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Who are you saying 20 is town for voted when that's his opening meme, he does it every game

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oh I guess you were towning an egopost too so you're just shitposting

ok let me know when mastina arrives in the game

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ok let me know when mastina arrives in the game

Does a readslist count?

the worst
Old Dogs
The Three Musketeers
Vengaboys
Chemist1422
Gamma Emerald
Voted
NotMySpamAccount
Fuscosco
Wh4t
KidAmn
Toogeloo
ZZZX
Chickadee
ElevenThirty
Vorkuta
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Because you can have a readslist!

I won't believe this is your readslist until you have self-published 'my readslist: a monograph to its history' to kindle and insisted everyone buy it for the 17th time

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What we drinkin porthos? I got a bad taste in my mouth and I wanna wash it out

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dude I fuckin love card games

what we playin?

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On principle. I actually had to throw out a game to him.

I think I had like 5 games tossed today due to that fuckface

I'm already drunk

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let's do it

explain the rules while you shuffle

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VOTE: Chickadead slot

this is kind of scum. Coupled with the lack of omgus from when pichu was voted by this slot before

What?

~ Pichu

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i think i might just sheep ank on mastina

She's probably town.

~ Pichu

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I'm not actually sure, I think the differences in approach I have to her across alignments are likely subtle enough that I don't realize the differences myself. I also only have one game where this is relevant from the past three or so years, so that obviously doesn't help.

I don't think she's too much of a worry early on either way, so I'm fine with townbinning her for a while regardless.

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Vorkuta

~ Pichu

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I've also been assured that Ramcius is a troll, so maybe his openwolfing isn't actually alignment indicative.

~ Pichu

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Timeshift IV (mini theme) is my only recent scumgame with a town mastina in it. Reading through the Mafia PT of that game might help give you an idea for how I'd probably look to approach her in that specific alignment configuation.

I'm voting for Vorkuta because he's my strongest scumread. He's playing the game to try to look town, not actually being town. The way he's dancing around the topics of the game is indicative that he's well aware of what's going on at any one time, but he's using that to try to look helpful to the town rather than actually moving the game forward. Posts 25. 52, 96, 107, 172, and 297 are the biggest offenders of this, especially the posts where he discusses what town should be doing, but then proceeds to do exactly none of it.

~ Pichu

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It is quite cool, isn't it?

~ Pichu

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I wouldn't care.

~ Pichu

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Because I have a feeling that we are still in RVS. I hate RVS.

I also don't want a lynching wagoon to be created after 4 day mark so if the possible lynch turns towny/ claims a powerful role, we have time to think about another wagoon.

Why do you think we are in RVS? My vote is very much a serious vote.

~ Pichu

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I wouldn't care.

~ Pichu

Why?

Why would I?

~ Pichu

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Did anything interesting happen while I was gone?

~ Pichu

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My vote is entirely serious.

~ Pichu

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Timeshift IV (mini theme) is my only recent scumgame with a town mastina in it. Reading through the Mafia PT of that game might help give you an idea for how I'd probably look to approach her in that specific alignment configuation.

you're one of the heads of the latrodectus hydra?

i'm p sure you're town here, i think

Yes, Latrodectus is my hydra account with Akarin.

How can you be so sure off how little I've posted so far?

~ Pichu

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i agree he's a hypocrite i dont know if being useless is ai in this gamestate

vort am i your scumread still

I'm scumreading it because of how he's being useless.

If I was scumreading people for being useless, I'd be scumreading 2/3 of the game essentially because of how badly the survivor discussion derailed the game.

~ Pichu

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People are scumreading Voted?

~ Pichu

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My townread on Voted no longer exists.

I'm too tired to do more right now, sorry.

~ Pichu

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I'm offended

~ Pichu

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That wh4t thinks I'm scum.

~ Pichu

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wh4t scum reads:

I'm offended

~ Pichu

I ask what would happen if I scum readed:

I wouldn't care.

~ Pichu

Why different reactions?

I would appreciate an answer to this YVG.

I don't know why he's expecting the same reaction to two completely separate situations in the first place. Obviously I'm going to have a different response to someone scumreading me in general than someone else taking a single post to call two people scumpartners.

If anything, why would they not be different?

~ Pichu

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insomnia, how can I be certain that you are legitimately town this time?

~ Pichu

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i think i might just sheep ank on mastina

She's probably town.

~ Pichu

Should probably check Ank's meta to see if she gives a town read so quickly based on so little evidence, especially on mastina, who I, at least, find hard to read.

But I'm really lazy.

Don't bother, this is not something that you can generally read me by. The reasons, maybe, but not the reads themselves.

My interactions with mastina, on the other hand, generally are much more AI. We have a pretty interesting past on this site, and the way we interact is unique enough that I read her with methods that I don't use with anybody else here.

Regarding my slacking, it's mainly because my other two heads haven't really been around combined with the general apathy of the game. I don't have any strong enough reads to be able to confidently push through any of my scumreads and not enough townreads I can trust in to be able to start looking to PoE the game out. It's one of those weird scenarios where it's incorrect to take a bigger role in the game and also incorrect to stay back and watch what's happening.

~ Pichu

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If its true that pichu is also latrodeucous then they should have a certain tone they take when entering as town, imo. I wouldnt call it foolproof tho.

Is this still valid considering I was originally a hidden head of this hydra?

~ Pichu

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Hi elephant, give me motivation to read stuff ty

~ Pichu

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The only strong scumread I directly remember is Vorkuta being scum.

~ Pichu

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Eh.

RAS specifically wanting to pressure me for my entrance is mildly town indicative but otherwise I really don't even remember that slot at all, or even who replaced into it offhand.

I haven't really been paying much attention to the game lately.

~ Pichu

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Thank you for the convincing argument that I'm wrong.

™ Pichu

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I don't regret that signing fuck up in the slightest.

~ Pichu

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I really want to vote the quad hydra

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Aramis

~ Pichu

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Because my vote looks swell on you

~ Pichu

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And move off my other heads can tell me not to negate neither of them are even paying attention to the thread

It's a win/win for me

~ Pichu

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I don't know what's funnier, the fact that you think anybody in this hydra isn't a troll or the fact that you mangled words almost as badly as I did.

~ Pichu

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I'm sorry, that was more meant to make fun of mine than yours.

~ Pichu

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Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala

This conversation is fun!

~ Pichu

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Good boy, insomnia.

I think pre-noon is probably town.

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Vengaboys

Where are you at chica?

~ Pichu

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Oh wait

UNVOTE: Vengaboys

I keep forgetting that people aren't here

~ Pichu

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Old Dogs is town.
insomnia is town.

ElevenThirty is probably town.
Chickadee is probably town.
Toogeloo is probably town.
zeebu is probably town.

Wh4t is kind of town.
Voted is kind of town.

Fuscosco/mastina/KidAmn - who?
Chemist/Vengaboys/Gamma - sort tomorrow
The Three Musketeers is in don't care land. I want them sorted in some way by day three but otherwise they'll just be noise all game I bet.

ZZZX/Vorkuta are scumreads.

~ Pichu

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eh

Fuscosco can be town too I guess

~ Pichu

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Pichu, why Chica is town? I know, it's easier to ignore our slot than engage us, so I take first step as it seems we have different opinions here

~Aramis

She's pretty clearly sorting compared to most other slots, I get the impression that her questions are meant to do something for her and she's not just active lurking like I am.

~ Pichu

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Wait

Nero Cain and rosterfoster are in that hydra???

~ Pichu

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VOTE: The Three Musketeers

~ Pichu

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It's definitely going to prevent me from ever townreading that slot.

~ Pichu

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oh by the way

I have Alisae's blessing to burn this slot with fire

~ Pichu

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ElevenThirty is probably town.

off of me or irrel?

Irrel

~ Pichu

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oh by the way

I have Alisae's blessing to burn this slot with fire

~ Pichu

can you elaborate a bit please?

UNVOTE:

That hydra has Nero Cain in it yet it has fewer posts than another hydra with two absent slots and a third that barely cares across all four of them.

And almost all of it is from a single head.

~ Pichu

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It's scum indicative.

~ Pichu

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Boring

~ Pichu

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By the way, a lot of the reason I'm on you in the first place is because I'm struggling to find slots that I can't find anything town in, your slot happens to be one of the few that fits that mold.

~ Pichu

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There's a difference, Katy.

Nobody in this hydra is particularly known for activity being alignment indicative, there is in that hydra.

And no, I ignored the survivor stuff.

~ Pichu

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Alisae afaik isn't even looking at the thread anymore.

~ Pichu

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Ngl I see your hydra as mostly a noise machine, your hydra has three players I expect to have some level of interest in trying to get something to happen in a game this dead and the fact that none of them seem to care about the game at all is at best really ominous and at worst damningly scum indicative.

And no, all Pichu posts are from the same head.

~ Pichu

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I talked to head X and decided it's better for my sanity to cruise through day one in this game.

I'll be looking for a shephard at some point.

~ Pichu

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I talked to head X and decided it's better for my sanity to cruise through day one in this game.

I'll be looking for a shephard at some point.

~ Pichu

Huh, what? Are you saying you're Ank and not 3rd head?

~Aramis

Yes

~ Pichu

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VOTE: 1130

~ Pichu

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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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I talked to head X and decided it's better for my sanity to cruise through day one in this game.

I'll be looking for a shephard at some point.

~ Pichu

VOTE: 1130

~ Pichu

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

~ Pichu

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Pichu does seem kind of townie. I know they asked me if I thought their intro held water.
Old Doggo does seem kind of town.

Wait, I did? Didn't I ask skitter?

~ Pichu

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Ooh pick me pick me!

Is it me?

~ Pichu

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VOTE: ZZZX

~ Pichu

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Prodge

~ Pichu

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Her top town is fucking Ank who didn't do shit at all

what is this wallmart readslist

Gotta agree with this, looking town has been scum indicative for me lately.

~ Pichu

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My lawyer is telling me I should probably point out that I am not scum claiming itt

Thank you for your time, everyone.

~ Pichu

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Is it too late to claim 3p

~ Pichu

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Btw that single post erased any townread I had of 1130

~ Pichu

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VOTE: 1130

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I'd like to know that too!

~ Pichu

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Also, irre, the part that is making me very unsure about sorting you as town is that the thought process you're suggesting that you have right now is that we should be looking to avoid lynching town more than avoiding lynching scum because of a specific very low likelihood scenario existing, which is obviously the case you're considering since you specifically defended that when I pushed on that point.

I can buy wanting to push survivors and can think of a protown reason myself as to why to go that route, but I really don't buy wanting to do so because of the possibility that scum aren't even in play right now. That is legitimately insane.

~ Pichu

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Btw as an addendum, that specific scenario I'm thinking of is one I would expect you to hit at some point, if Port Arthur is any indication.

It makes a lot more sense for a thought process from you than whatever this is.

~ Pichu

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I hope not, I'm expecting Gamma Emerald to hard carry this game.

~ Pichu

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I expect both of them to hard carry too

~ Pichu

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Ank, can we lynch you then? Since even you admit that there's no reason to townread you

~Aramis

Go for it!

I'll even help you by appealing to everyone that I obvtown over time, which I do as scum much more often than as town.

Btw guys I obvtown over time.

~ Pichu

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Staying in character is so much harder when I can't see my own avatar set next to all my posts, what a conumdrum.

-Blake

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~ Pixhu

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I'm pocketed

VOTE: Vorkuta

~ Pichu

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You'd be surprised now that I actually have a scumgame.

~ Pichu

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I don't think I'm all that great at it but I have a rep for it now so...shrug.

~ Pichu

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I'm so proud of what we've managed to achieve today!

~ Pichu

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That post is a good reason to vote Vorkuta btw

~ Pichu

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I feel loved!

~ Pichu

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I didn't know you thought of me so highly, insomnia.

~ Pichu

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Why not just do it now then regardless?

~ Pichu

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How so?

~ Pichh

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A scum sweep, yeah, I am already predicting that.

~ Pichu

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I'm literally playing this game solo, pisskop.

Alisae I'm pretty sure has xometely abandoned the game and Head X is too swamped with other things to have much to say about this game.

~ Pichu

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On my part, I've just about given up on the game mostly because something like 1/3 of the game is either mechanically not here or just absent in general and the majority of the rest aren't really doing anything.

Because this game likely has several 3p in it that all have their own agendas, I can easily see this being the case up until the end of the game, because it would be an absolute joke for scum to just kill the only slots actively doing anything and then coasting to victory.

There's nothing for me to analyze and try to solve with, because Vorkuta appears to be deadset on this weird strategy as a response to pressure all game, the other wagon is on somebody I think is just town, and every other wagonee is just as lazy a target... which in a game that has gotten as far nowhere as this one has, is kind of the point of day one isn't it.

Just end the damn day because nothing that anyone is doing is remotely useful to the game, it's a lot more productive to just move on and see what the people who haven't been here have to say.

~ Pichu

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A scum sweep, yeah, I am already predicting that.

~ Pichu

'member, when you were so optimistic, said scums are terrible and town gonna sweep? I 'member, was good times, lot of laugh for me

~Aramis

When did I say that?

~ Pichu

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Oh so you're comparing it to before my hiatus?

I've gone on record a few times (I think) that I believe towns are worse this year than last year on this site. It's really not contradictory under this light.

~ Pichu

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Apathy.

~ Pichu

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you're fine katy, I'm just being bitchy

~ Pichu

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I find it really funny how many people rather kill vork over chick in such a short amount of time and yet people aren't switching?

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Put your money where your mouth is or I'm going to assume that there's scum in this list using this opportunity to distance from scumkuta while also making sure he doesn't die today.

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Vork has not done a single town thing all game and his overall approach is scum motivated.

Worst case? We don't have to try to interpret his WIFOM anymore since we can just judge people by how they handled him instead.

I'm seeing no reason why he shouldn't be lynched already..

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This is an official Pichu cfd,make it happen.

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Don't use the extra day as an excuse to do nothing, just vote Vorkuta and end the day.

~ Pichu

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Chickadee is scum for townhunting and I'm scum for catching scum???

~ Pichu

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I can buy insomnia being scum.

I really want Vorkuta to be the lynch though.

~ Pichu

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Who's the scum that you caught

Look at who I'm voting, I've been scumreading him since I first entered the game.

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Vorkuta

~ Pichu

Timeshift IV (mini theme) is my only recent scumgame with a town mastina in it. Reading through the Mafia PT of that game might help give you an idea for how I'd probably look to approach her in that specific alignment configuation.

I'm voting for Vorkuta because he's my strongest scumread. He's playing the game to try to look town, not actually being town. The way he's dancing around the topics of the game is indicative that he's well aware of what's going on at any one time, but he's using that to try to look helpful to the town rather than actually moving the game forward. Posts 25. 52, 96, 107, 172, and 297 are the biggest offenders of this, especially the posts where he discusses what town should be doing, but then proceeds to do exactly none of it.

~ Pichu

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I don't buy that the mindset I've outlined in 315 and the way he's been handling the pressure on him all game (which is essentially shut down and call everybody that suspects him scum over and over again) comes from anything but a mafia or SK mindset.

I'd expect even a survivor Vorkuta would do a better job of at least looking for who's actually scum on the people that are voting for him or suspecting him in general, but he's just blanketing in a way that suggests he's just caught instead of genuinely looking for who's not town in those pushing on him.

He's done nothing to make pushing him a scumclaim, but that's the only recourse he's given all game.

(hint: it's because he's not town)

~ Pichu

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You've done us a great justice this day, Rhinox. I salute you.

~ Pichu

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Who's the scum that you caught

Look at who I'm voting, I've been scumreading him since I first entered the game.

~ Pichu

And did she flip scum or am i blind

Who are you even referring to?

~ Pichu

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lol 'policy lynch'

~ Pichu

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This game is the equivalent of throwing a book into babelfish a few dozen times on random languages.

~ Pichu

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can someone vig TTM please?

~ Pichu

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I legitimately believe we'd get another scum with both musketslot and insomniaslot flipped.

I'm not buying what either are selling.

~ Pichu

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How so?

~ Pichu

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ngl I don't even remember anything you've done this game before the last like 5 pages

~ Pichu

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Hey skitter what are your overall reads atm

~ Pichu

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Ausuka is in this game?

~ Pichu

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prodge

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So do vengaboys just never get to post or wtf?

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whooooooa alisae came back!!!

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also gamma and chemist should give their thoughts! as well as the vengaboys!

with 6 heads posting in a hood n1 im sure theyre bound to have something useful

They're not listed in the vc tho?

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they are still unable to post

Wtf schadd

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fusco town, somnia maybe 3p

*next reads*

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I actually don't want to commit to reads on mastina or skitter. you wouldn't believe how town skitter would be if she was doing this one thing you won't believe [*clickbait*]

mastina being lynchbaity can go either way but it doesn't make her scum quite yet I think so *shrug*

*next (non) reads*

pedit: hi relly! *hugs* how are you doing? your ladyfriend getting better?

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fusco town, somnia maybe 3p

*next reads*

what page/spot are you referring to here

fusco/piss slot, I'm just doing iso skims rn so... all of it I guess? you have a problem with piss town?

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and ye venga is sky, it's not a hydra

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I'm a Neutral-Aligned Survivor.

I believe this slot when they say they aren't town

Chickadee has permission to flip town, not 100% on that but don't hate the iso at a glance

*next reads*

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We're hard-claiming Survivor.

I think Toog is more likely a real survivor, I believe that this slot also isn't town but I am waaaaay less convinced it can win with town

I think Rhinox might be groupscum

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i was kinda hoping you'd read mastina for me

the head posting right now is not pichu to be clear

I think the only thing this head has done to date is vote RAS slot out of spite

hate day 1, always have, always will lol

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this game feels fake to me and it's hard for me to townread like, anyone

oh yeah day 1 was awful, I feel bad for basically letting pichu carry our slot but thankfully my other games have lightened up a bit now but this game looked really dumb

like schadd, I know the 'put them in the box' thing is like the meme but, really? really? lol

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wh4t might be town but I wouldn't put money on it yet, this just doesn't remind me of their play last time they were scum but this is a weird setup so that might not mean much

Old Dogs is easy town

Voted is ???? -- the amount of pushing on 3 musketeers would surprise me a little bit that this slot then decided to NK them? but I also don't really like almost any of their reads? so... bracketing this off for now

ZZZX -- skitter what did you think of 341?

and I'm like, kinda caught-up ish, lot of skimming, I'll talk to pichu about my reads but I think I'd like to go Rhinox today if the other heads are down with it

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are you claiming it's sk despite no additional kill or groupscum fakeclaiming

I was thinking group scum, non-recruitable traitor, something sorta ballpark of groupscum even if not main faction group scum.

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old dogs what did you think of 341?

unsigned posts from today are not pichu to be clear, I'm Pikachu, just too lazy to sign

also I talked to Pichu and I'm not hearing opposition to VOTE: Rhinox

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341 makes me feel pretty sure that voted/ZZZX is not T/T but I am not 100% sure what that means in this setup, that post bugs me in two different ways though

I don't know it makes ZZZX groupscum unfortunately and I kinda have a shortage of townreads so I thiiiiink it might? be SvT?

kinda thinking out loud here I still probably prefer Rhinox for today

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the structure and feel of the post, unvoting old dogs feels ~not townie~ in the middle of the post before a new scumread has developed, a lot of the linked post comments feel a little bit more like 'reactions' than analysis, the vote on zeebu seems to be disassociated with what zeebu is doing (over-emphasizing the 'greeting tell' that isn't even relevant to large themes anyway but whatever)

I could have it backward though and that ZZZX is right that zeebu focusing on a 'greeting tell' in the middle of the thread is kinda scummy but like... idk I almost think groupscum would usually want a better reason to fake a scumread? maybe even distancing? idk both posts feel really disassociated, weird pair of slots

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RAS didn't replace out, that's when his ban arrived wasn't it?

I think there's no question that RAS slot is not town, the question is whether it can win with town, and I'm not sure it can

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For someone who just talked smack about checking an iso you sure have a hard time grasping that mastina is not a masonizer

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Are there specific posts that ping you from Chicka?

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To be clear then, you don't think 1283 is s/s, rather you think it's pocketing?

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I'm more trying to make sense of the logic behind your read of Rhinox

I actually was starting to feel *very slightly* better on him with the interaction earlier but your "anyone on his wagon should be vigged" comment seemed a bit hyperbolic

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Discuss

Every single person that’s on Rhino as of right now should just get vigged imo

I don’t need a fucking case,

So you’ll use my comment as an excuse to stay parked on Rhino despite him being town, is that what you are trying to say?

I get the feeling you didn't actually want to discuss your vote, you wanted to take your viagara and then have some personal time in the thread?

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I can see why you dislike 112, although I thought the bit at the end about the quarantined players wasn't too bad?

I guess my main problem is that my last experience with scum Chickadee was Overkill 2, where she was very disengaged, so her overall activity, even if the individual posts aren't that great, kinda point me toward town Chickadee here. But one game does not make a meta so it's not like I hate your read. Have you played with scum chickadee before?

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Am i correct in assuming you still have us in ?????????? territory Katy?

~ Pichu

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Both players in that hydra are more than capable of holding a consistent thought process as scum, Voted.

~ Pichu

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I think most of the game has no idea what to think of me more than anything skitter.

Which is still amusing to me since my apathy and mood swings are not really from the game itself as much as my general apathy towards the game itself.

~ Pichu

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I don't think you'd struggle too hard to get a real wagon going on this slot if you really tried though is the thing

~ Pichu

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Also Alisae said e'd start playing if we reached like day 4.

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As it turns out, Alisae hasn't posted still.

The posts that aren't me are from Head X

~ Pichu

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Insomnia don't roast me too hard pls, I combust easy

~ Pichu

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How did you get 'sk' out of '3p' in this of all games?

-pikachu

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is this the kool kids klub I dropped in on?

~ Pichu

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uh

real question

what was my read on mastina?

~ Pichu

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oh god I don't even remember

~ Pichu

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what dirt do you have on me creature

~ Pichu

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damn you got me

~ Pichu

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let him dream, katy

~ Pichu

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yeah this has been a firebringer game

~ Pichu

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you got me

I'm nero cain

~ Pichu

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pagetop

~ Pichu

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VOTE: Chickadee

Raaaaaaaawr

~ Pichu

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Have a good night everybody

~ Pichu

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I'd be very happy to be free of this game!

~ Pichu

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Plus we need to hit a point where the slots that can't play at all can... you know, play?

~ Pichu

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Insomnia have you left me already?

~ Pichu

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Man you're so tryhard all day today

~ Pichu

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Do you need a good sleep?

~ Pichu

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Can we shoot wh4t too

~ Pichu

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Lol@thinking I hammered for cred

~ Pichu

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Insomnia I hope you realize that tryhardBlake and trollingBlake are very different and you'd be able to tell when I switch between the two

The hammer was partly trolly partly getustothenextdayffs

~ Pichu

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ooooo we were popular

~ Pichu

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mastina did you fruit us?

~ Pichu

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we got targeted by both!!!!!!

~ Pichu

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btw I'm willing to bet that one of the 3p is the reason those three slots aren't here

~ Pichu

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old dogs is prob scum btw

~ Pichu

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gamestate read says yes

~ Pichu

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that was answering the groupscum in those three slots point

~ Pichu

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3musketeers was a scumkill I'm pretty sure also

~ Pichu

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isn't that strange (:

~ Pichu

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there being no sk? no i fully expected it from the get go

no

3musket being scumkilled n1

~ Pichu

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oh what a shock

it was 1130slot and wh4t that had the worst responses to the nightkill

:thonk:

~ Pichu

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who's scum #3?

who's even still alive?

~ Pichu

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they were obvtown, people are scared of flavor for whatever reason, they were off both wagons

it really really seems like a normal nightkill

no

it was a very odd nightkill

~ Pichu

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the first point doesn't matter because there was pressure on that slot
the middle point is irrelevant because flavor did literally nothing throughout all of day one
the third... I don't understand why it matters at all

~ Pichu

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because we're a designated mislynch and wh4t has been up my ass all game???

~ Pichu

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I only started thinking that today

~ Pichu

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I'm waiting to be mislynched

~ Pichu