Mini Normal 2080 ft. My Cats [Game Over]

[skitter30]

EvilDeanius (4):

Detective Pikachu, u r a person 2,
teacher, Cinnamon

teacher (2):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget (1):

Vorkuta

Dunnstral (1):

Saladman27

u r a person 2 (1):

Flubbernugget

Not Voting (3):

EvilDeanius, skitter30, nomnomnom

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(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)

i'm not sure how good i feel about urap too

[u r a person 2]

What do you think about flubber's ED read/read on the ED wagon?

honestly if he's scum ... why doesn't he just hop on?

doesn't want to be on a bad wagon or doesn't want to bus?

[u r a person 2]

I am fine not waiting with a replacement

this d1 is almost too long for later day rereads as is

[u r a person 2]

skitter30/nomnomnom both look towny to me, and nobody else seems to be concerned with vorkuta, so I think this is a good lynch

What was your skitter read based on at this point?

[u r a person 2]

One of the examples Vorkuta listed has a town miller in it

And it features a town Vorkuta pushing a miller and an ascetic claim all game

And it features a town miller with another power role

Vorkuta does seem different to that game though.

Does anybody else want to read Mini 2070? How come Nero didn't realize that Vorkuta brought up the game he modded that had a real miller in it when trying to show off scum fake claims?

I still don't know how an inconsistency like this ever leads back to a conclusion on alignment

[u r a person 2]

I could see scum!dunn

Nothing dunn has pushed vorkuta for is scum-indicative, and some is probably town-indicative lol

[u r a person 2]

i like his vork read
i also think his 'i don't give a fuck until we lynch this guy' ness is kinda townie

putting aside the vorkuta read, the second one is not a pro-town play style, and I don't know if I can think of a player who plays like this as town, can you?

I mean, we're not talking about just tunneling here. We're talking about what-is-the-point-of-playing nihilism until vorkuta gets lynched

This is probably just scum-indicative

[u r a person 2]

My bigger concern is that other people do seem to have a read

it's not an empty slot mate, why shouldn't they have a read?

[u r a person 2]

Last time we played together you were vt, I was scum, and I tried coasting the game off a scum read on you.

My scum game isn't great but I'm well past having to lurk it out

I'd ask you for the game link, but if I don't remember it, it's probably not hot and really I'll take any excuse not to meta someone

[Detective Pikachu]

yeah I guess we have no choice

UNVOTE:

Gotta be honest nom your tone here feels pretty weird to me

what do you mean by "we have no choice"? I feel like usually you're pretty aggressive with what you think is best?

[u r a person 2]

There's enough content and scum reads on active players that it doesn't make sense to be wagoning a lurker, and I'm not going to fake a read on a slot with such little content like the rest of the town seems to take solace in.

I've asked multiple people multiple times to talk to me about why ED is scum because I'm not going to be able to start brute force looking through the thread for them and have been ignored.

What is your read on ED?

I'd prefer not to lynch the active-towns or the possible-towns-with-great-future-potential, so scum!lurker is a pretty good bet

ED read incoming

[u r a person 2]

Please designate your best player so I may vote them to assert dominance

"I don't even want responsibility for my RVS vote!"

Fits profile of scum!lurk out

[skitter30]

i like his vork read
i also think his 'i don't give a fuck until we lynch this guy' ness is kinda townie

putting aside the vorkuta read, the second one is not a pro-town play style, and I don't know if I can think of a player who plays like this as town, can you?

I mean, we're not talking about just tunneling here. We're talking about what-is-the-point-of-playing nihilism until vorkuta gets lynched

This is probably just scum-indicative

I mean what scum have u seen have that mindset early in the game

[Detective Pikachu]

Please designate your best player so I may vote them to assert dominance

"I don't even want responsibility for my RVS vote!"

Fits profile of scum!lurk out

What bothers me the most about that is that I think we all pretty clearly designated it was skitter and he just did not follow up, didn't vote her, had no interactions

like it's a bravado "I'm gonna fite someone big" post and then he just nopes out of the thread wtf?

[u r a person 2]

I can see Vork's point about the "Don't know how to play this" comment at the beginning, but the rest of the points I don't really get. Adding the WIFOM of it being a modifier can only help us. If somebody scum reads them, the fact that they've softed PR should mean nothing until they make an actual claim.

In post 116, Flubbernugget wrote:
Im drunk

Oh boy, I've been here before.

So he supports vorks push but with a hedge, and then argues against anyone taking the claim into account while making their reads. It's fence-sitting to the extreme

hold on i just got an email and I gotta see if I'm gonna be able to buy dave chappelle tickets or not hold this thought

[skitter30]

What do you think about flubber's ED read/read on the ED wagon?

honestly if he's scum ... why doesn't he just hop on?

doesn't want to be on a bad wagon or doesn't want to bus?

He was one of the cws earlier iirc, he could have hopped on without much suspicion i think

[Detective Pikachu]

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

[nomnomnom]

yeah I guess we have no choice

UNVOTE:

Gotta be honest nom your tone here feels pretty weird to me

what do you mean by "we have no choice"? I feel like usually you're pretty aggressive with what you think is best?

?

We're going to go nowhere if I stay in my little corner and everyone does the same, we're reaching deadline day without a strong consensus or push. What's the purpose of being stubborn here except cause confusion?

What I think is best is having a cohesive mindset. Scumreads aren't worth anything if you haven't convinced anyone and we just look at each other saying "LOOK THAT GUY IS SCUM SHEEP ME ALREADY" if nobody actually follows anyone you know? It's pointless.

[Nero Cain]

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

Why do you think Skitter should?

[Detective Pikachu]

I guess. Just felt weird to me mang.

Shall we form a drum circle and pray to the replacement gods that a replacement chooses the EvilD slot over the 7 other games that need replacements now?

[Detective Pikachu]

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

Why do you think Skitter should?

I feel like urap is like the easiest townread in the game and I don't get why she hasn't seen it given I feel she generally has pretty strong reads

[u r a person 2]

that dude wants 315 bucks for the back of the house =/ guess i'll watch the special on tv

What purpose does PLing a Miller ever have?

What purpose does PLing a Miller ever have?

Annihilates the chances of any scum winning by claiming it.

You can apply that to any role, the only difference is the inability to investigate it.

An investigative role isn't going to be able to check everyone, so you treat it the same as an unchecked VT, lynch them if they're scummy, keep them alive if they're not. Lynching them purely because of the claim doesn't make sense.

Again, this is a scum motivation that allows him to not take a position on the very townie miller claim and keep them in the possible lynch pool

[skitter30]

skitter I feel like you should be townreading urap here, why are you struggling to do that?

Idk it takes a while to get to a townread if he's town and it hasnt clicked yet (ex: tris's game)

[u r a person 2]

Either he is scum's pick for day 1 mislynch

Why would scum pick town!vorkuta as a day 1 mislynch? I mean objectively speaking if you were scum here, wouldn't your mind go towards the more lurk-ish people, where it's easier to make a case on? Because that's definitely easier than to go against a player like vorkuta here.

Because you get the loud/good players out of the way early, so you can mislynch the lurky players later with little resistance. You always try to mislynch/kill those with thread presence early.

Try to find the town motivation where the singular post that they make in a roughly 450 post period is this one, dead in the middle of that lapse. I can't find it

[ofrhz]

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