Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[RadiantCowbells]

L0 if this filps town I'm speedlynching you tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

L0 if this filps town I'm speedlynching you tomorrow.

wait why

the way he's dealing with this is incredibly fake. doesn't feel like he's really sorting. feels like he knows or's alignment and is tryign to spew himself town.

[RadiantCowbells]

actually yeah I think that applies regardless of what or flips

VOTE: Liger_zero

leggo fuckhead

[RadiantCowbells]

going to quickly reread and make sure I still feel this way but I'm pretty sure I will

scum eventually slip up in a long game like this

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

What has he done that made you do this? The fact that dann voted him?

I need a reason for why you pulled out of or.

he knew they were flipping town and were gonna get lynched regardless of what he did. so he went full "hey look how town I am" mode.

after reread I stand by this read. going to case this either tonight or tomorrow.

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Does ddr actually call me scum when I am practically begging him to give me reasons to townread him? Is that a scum move? Or reactionary town move from someone being pushed and see me as being manipulative.

That says to me that he is town and I am on the wrong wagon.

so apparently you think you were being towny yes

why is him misreading you as scum towny

as scum wouldn't he want to keep your lynch open?

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Liger why am I town

I think you're literally the only player in the game who hasn't been paranoid of me at some point

i'll give you a hint

[RadiantCowbells]

L0 or push could be tmi yeah

maybe we lynch DDL first?

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VOTE: or just in case i wasn't already

[RadiantCowbells]

go away rc your reads blow
or you're scum
bop kicks in sooner or later

sorry why would I not lynch you for this post

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

see you guys tomorrow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Btw I feel like there's a huge contrast between this and literally any of my scum games and I really don't like that you're talking about lynching me if you clear everyone else then clearing slots for stupid reasons

[RadiantCowbells]

Enter & DDL

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I feel like scum is going to be people who were in the original, day 2ish Poe pool but who have had replacements that have proceeded to power play while townies have gotten complacent and let their town standing fall

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not good at

Whatever this is

And apparently no one else is either

[RadiantCowbells]

L0 mostly tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Really confused as to how you'd say my D2 onward is townier than my D1

[RadiantCowbells]

It isn't a question of locktowns
We cannot lynch everyone I consider not locktown
Maybe if we didn't lynch Bujaber for no reason

It's a question of what 4 lynches wins us the game more of the time than any other

[RadiantCowbells]

By the way serious question

Do you agree that it's really unfair for me to have to try to decipher whether bullshit like DDL calling me scum for pushing on him is scum? I feel like I don't deal well with people who aren't sorting me in good faith and when people respond to me pushing on them by saying fuck you you're scum you need to be lynched how am I supposed to reevaluate that

[RadiantCowbells]

Like people say that being an IC sucks

But I would way rather sort people who have to treat my push as in good faith than have to deal with NO you're pushing me you're scum

[RadiantCowbells]

I think my tendency to get in 1v1s is closely linked to people taking my pushes in bad faith

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if Shoshin pushes someone they do that immediately assume she's scum and instigate a 1v1 they try to convince her that she's wrong. Etc. It's fucking stupid.

[RadiantCowbells]

No I'm saying that when I push someone they just assume that I'm scum and make it their God given mission to kill me

[RadiantCowbells]

And it usually isn't

Except when it's me

[RadiantCowbells]

i've given up on being paragon.

can we just lynch someone

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't want to lynch formerfish

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: or

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btw if i was still fully invested in this game and playing off of my reads i'd be driving a lynch on liger js

[RadiantCowbells]

it's not a policy lynch

i find it really disillusioning how you're getting mad at him for making a scum motivated play as opposed to getting worried that it makes him scum

[RadiantCowbells]

liger feels like he's playing to spew himself town rather than anything else

he's also trying to get towncred for not supporting this wagon while not actually preventing it.

[RadiantCowbells]

so if you think that i'm making a play that essentially sets me up to lynch or than you as scum, why aren't you doing anything about it?

[RadiantCowbells]

i have literally no idea how anyone in this game is generating their reads

pretty much any time someone says i read x for y reason i want to scumread the absurdity of the reads but i'd be voting everyone

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't feel like i'm playing the same game that anyone else is playing

[RadiantCowbells]

pretty much yeah. do you want me to go through each of them individually?

[RadiantCowbells]

ok

can you gather your reads into one place so i can talk about them without spending time going through your iso

[RadiantCowbells]

btw i have never had a town player accuse me of being awful town as opposed to scum in the way that liger_zero does when he's accused me of an opportunistic play.

[RadiantCowbells]

what if it's a shitty birthday party

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ank whats your formerfish read

[RadiantCowbells]

you need to talk about the reasons

because i'm referring moreso to the fact that you say "xyz makes this person town/scum" and i'm like how is that even AI

[RadiantCowbells]

\o/

[RadiantCowbells]

ok

can you gather your reads into one place so i can talk about them without spending time going through your iso

Yeah

Ank/RC/Rei 95% town
Creature at 90
Jingle/xtoxm at 85
Dann at 80

DDL/FF isn't a scum team
Dann/FF is likely not a scum team

Liger is probably town

DDL is possibly scum
Max is possibly scum
FF is possibly scum
Vedith is possibly scum

Ank is town because keeping up the effort she has and the confidence she has is difficult for her as scum
Also she has high standards for herself so her failure after pushing Buj against you and myself means that her response to Buj flipping town makes sense

Rei is likely town because I can follow her thought process mostly, she maintains a relatively conversational tone that's difficult as scum, the only reason I fear she might be scum is too many town reads but I can understand that this game

RC is an entirely different beast

Creature is likely town due to his conversational tone and his ability to continue to scumhunt and try even when the game feels mostly won

xtoxm is likely town due to the fact that everyone else grapes voted for is town and his interaction w/ grapes doesn't feel like SvS

Jingle is likely town because he does try enough to keep us on a certain track, he doesn't seem to be trying to get town cred, he reads differently from 8-ball

Dann is likely town because to maintain the effort he has this game and the tone would be difficult as scum

Liger is likely town because getting off the mcqueen wagon yesterday at tend of day only to jump back on it removes really any sense of town cred he might have gotten from being off the wagon and opposing it, althought I guess he could have gone back on for fear that someone else would be lynched instead

Vedith might be scum because he's absent when he's needed, he often comes in, shares enough to get mildly town read and disappears

DDL is possibly scum because he can't maintain a solid thought process throughout the game and the only reason people seem to be TRing him is due to recent AtE

FF is possibly scum because I was never particularly convinced on Alisae - ey only once really made any attempt at a push and then it was never much at all, some of the ways he says and does things makes me uncomfortable but over all that slot has done relatively townie things. Unlikely to be scum w/ DDL or Dannflor due to interactions

Max is possibly scum because I haven't really seen enough investment to make me thing he's solid town

totally disagree with xtoxm
jingle ok
Liger_zero everything that you say here is stupid. he jumped off mcqueen to let someone else put it through then got back on when it wasn't happening fast enough.
like it literally goes in the opposite direction that you're saying.
vedith is town for other reasons
DDL ok sure
FF ok sure
Max ok sure

[RadiantCowbells]

liger has been playing to be townread in a way that no other player in this game has.

VOTE: Liger

[RadiantCowbells]

hey we might actually win this

[RadiantCowbells]

creature put your vote back down

[RadiantCowbells]

no longer l1 creature

[RadiantCowbells]

creature wanna know a secret?

you were townreading me this game because i wasn't pushing lynches
you're scumreading me now because i am pushing lynches

you only townread me when i'm not actually trying to influence the game. so, fuck off.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's...a bad defense, but whatever.

it's not a defense, it's a fact.

[RadiantCowbells]

how often do you not scumread me

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this is the first game in a very, very long time that you haven't scumread me. and you're coming back to scumreading me. so.

[RadiantCowbells]

if you continue to queue into games as a player with a known scum game, you either choose to be lynched constantly or you choose to take a hard stand and be willing to make enemies in doing so.
2032 you just ignored my slot at best. certainly didn't defend me. 2063 i had powerlynched widely townread scum and had a protect claimed on me after a no kill. congrats on that tr

[RadiantCowbells]

it's a cycle for me where I try to be nicer, get mislynched constantly, get fucking sick of it and decide to be more of an asshole, stop getting mislynched as much, but feel bad and start trying to be nicer agin.

[RadiantCowbells]

you know the game I was referencing where I powerlynched widely townread scum D1 and had a doctor claim a save on me after a no kill?
two townies tried to keep me in the lynchpool. one of them freaked out and said the lynch had to be between the two of us on D2. this isn't imagined.

[RadiantCowbells]

it's not the past. it's the past present and future.

[RadiantCowbells]

it's going to happen again.

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creature, do you think that I'm scum this game

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there's nothing to

learn

from it, for me at least.

Yes, I do, but I expect your answer to be something like "if I am scum there's nothing you can do", which I can easily see here.

just going to add this to the list.

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i'd be depressed by this game if i hadn't checked out of it a long time ago.

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it was a strong selection by ms. ether

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i want people to deal with good scum players differently.

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OK reiuji

who do you want to lynch

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: FF

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't think ff flip scum

[RadiantCowbells]

but uh

if i'm wrong i agree to give reiuji at least 27 laughing rights

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not going against reiuji

[RadiantCowbells]

That clears me for the record

Alisae never reps out if we were buddies, ever.

First pick for buddy is Maxwell just based off of the fact that if e was going to let grapes go the other buddy might as well be on the wagon too

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Votecount 1.18

grapes(6)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁶⁸⁾, Extrapolated Eagle⁽²²⁹⁾, Prince of Renais⁽¹³¹⁾, Jingle⁽¹⁶³⁾, Alisae⁽¹⁴⁴⁾, Shoshin⁽¹⁵⁶⁾

Shoshin(3)

~ Lycanfire⁽²⁰⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽³⁴⁾, Clemency⁽¹²⁾

NerfedBuJ(2)

~ Vedith⁽⁸⁵⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁴⁰⁾

Reiuji Utsuho(1)

~ mcqueen⁽¹⁹⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ grapes⁽²⁰⁾


Not Voting (3): Gamma Emerald⁽¹⁸⁾, Dannflor⁽¹⁴⁹⁾, Karmeleon⁽²⁶⁾

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

I'm trying out a different way of displaying the post counts. Please let me know if you have any thoughts.

Votecount 1.FINAL

grapes(9)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁷³⁾, Extrapolated Eagle⁽²³³⁾, Prince of Renais⁽¹³⁵⁾, Jingle⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, Alisae⁽¹⁴⁵⁾, Shoshin⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽⁴³⁾, Clemency⁽¹³⁾, Lycanfire⁽²⁵⁾

-- HAMMER

NerfedBuJ(2)

~ Vedith⁽⁹⁰⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁴⁷⁾

Reiuji Utsuho(1)

~ mcqueen⁽²²⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ grapes⁽²¹⁾


Not Voting (3): Gamma Emerald⁽¹⁸⁾, Dannflor⁽¹⁵⁵⁾, Karmeleon⁽³³⁾

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

This was two days apart so unless someone didn't post at all during that time Alisae buddy should have been on the wagon: I think it's just Clemency slot like 80%+ of the time

[RadiantCowbells]

oh no i'm being voted
i gotta play now?
ugh

it's ok just vote shoshin or jingle and you can keep lurking

VOTE: shoshin
allons-y

VOTE: grapes
yeet

Also note that this is literally Clemency first post since Alisae voted

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls no ank

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Man I knew Alisae push on me at sod3 was fucking nonsense but so many people have pushed me in equally moronic ways recently that I just shrugged it off. So again we're going back to how do I find people acting in bad faith when everyone treats my slot in bad faith?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Prince is scum who has me pocketted

If ur town ummm
Ummm
I think you should have died by now?

Idunno
Don’t take my word for it tho

Wait
You didn’t want to lynch shoshin

Sry I was under the impression you wanted to lynch that

Okay carry on

VOTE: clemency

See like if I was anyone else having this shit done to me I can just be like lol yeah that's scum

But this is most of my games

so much fun having to sort obviously bad faith pushes

[RadiantCowbells]

7595 makes me vaguely uncomfortable

[RadiantCowbells]

secret alts help

I think all of my secret alts have better win rates than my main, though.

A lot easier to win as town when you don't get scumread for no reason

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funny thing

my secret alts all get scumread for no reason more than my main

That begs the question whether it's for no reason

[RadiantCowbells]

ROSE is RED
LAMB is YOU
MY LOVE is YOU
Do you love me too?

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I love u too

[RadiantCowbells]

URAP speedvoting was extremely BM

I tried to get him to vote scum duck

[RadiantCowbells]

Can we shortened night after this

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What's your mom's number

[RadiantCowbells]

Max tomorrow if ignition

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For the record I wasn't locktowning FF I just didn't want to lynch the Alisae slot before other slots

[RadiantCowbells]

Okay so I feel bad for scum in the current situation and holding this against them but I don't really feel like I'm obligated to not play to win out of some sort of game integrity reasoning
but I don't think any of those replace outs were scum ever (except Enter whom I know why he left but the slot is town regardless) and with those slots cleared and L0 being town I'm near 100% that scum is one person plus 1 of 2.

I don't want to get hasty in assuming L0 so I'm holding onto further commentary b/c I'd like to see what psyche does from here but otherwise I believe this is solved

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i would also recommend the other players present refrain from pushing solves and what not until psyche at least has had some engagement since that slot is the only lose condition fmpov

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Votecount 1.FINAL

grapes(9)

~ Reiuji Utsuho⁽⁷³⁾, Extrapolated Eagle⁽²³³⁾, Prince of Renais⁽¹³⁵⁾, Jingle⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, Alisae⁽¹⁴⁵⁾, Shoshin⁽¹⁶⁵⁾, NerfedBuJ⁽⁴³⁾, Clemency⁽¹³⁾, Lycanfire⁽²⁵⁾

-- HAMMER

NerfedBuJ(2)

~ Vedith⁽⁹⁰⁾, DrDolittle⁽⁴⁷⁾

Reiuji Utsuho(1)

~ mcqueen⁽²²⁾

Prince of Renais(1)

~ Xtoxm⁽²¹⁾

Extrapolated Eagle(1)

~ grapes⁽²¹⁾


Not Voting (3): Gamma Emerald⁽¹⁸⁾, Dannflor⁽¹⁵⁵⁾, Karmeleon⁽³³⁾

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2019-03-19 22:19:59)

also i just wanted to point something out. at eod1 we all agreed that the wagon was clean and then we ended up lynching 3 slots off the wagon. mcqueen we all agreed was town d1. alisae we all agreed was town d1. buj we all agreed was town d1. this idea that there

had

to be scum on the wagon was really really stupid given that we didn't lynch a single slot that actually resisted the wagon

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm town. if game is solved, don't make me read it. would like to be walked more cleanly through the solution logic though.

i mean, i didn't do a write up because I assumed that scum would at the very least want to kill the replacements even if they had been fine keeping me alive.
regardless you're going to need to read at least something.

[RadiantCowbells]

also maybe now people will stop speculating that I'm you Tohru

[RadiantCowbells]

psyche can you read the first day (58 pages)

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't think the answer to that question is relevant. they would or would not be circumstantially, i don't even remember who was on that wagon.

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I'll relook when I have time to

I think it would probably be more productive looking for town than scum

i led 2 lynches by hunting scum. i flipped 1/2 scum.
you guys looked for town and then lynched the exclusions and missed three times.

[RadiantCowbells]

who are your town reads?

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that is the second question

[RadiantCowbells]

I've had weird flu like symptoms for a while and it sucks

[RadiantCowbells]

noting that i actually didn't remember until i read the circumstances and remembered that i was very sick the night of the 30th and the lynch happened before i recovered.

[RadiantCowbells]

you're one of two potential scumpartners

[RadiantCowbells]

i have enough respect for FA's scum play to not call her literally never scum

but i don't think it increases our chances of winning this game to lynch jingle at any point before endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

we're not lynching max btw

[RadiantCowbells]

And congratulations, you came to the same PoE I just did, but without your name in the lynch pool.

This minus max
.

[RadiantCowbells]

No actually

The only lynch based off associatives was McQueen

It's ok Max I got you

[RadiantCowbells]

we mislynched because everyone was searching for deepwolves and bussers instead of lynching the people who actually resisted the wagon.

[RadiantCowbells]

-vedith +DDL

[RadiantCowbells]

i would bet against that from saudade.

[RadiantCowbells]

i don't think he reads games he's in

[RadiantCowbells]

did he read the posts that he made though

[RadiantCowbells]

ok

i think the correct play here is to hedge on max and try to lynch whoever is most likely to be his buddy in the lynchpool

i guess i'll read for that now

[RadiantCowbells]

the people who led all the shitty lynches are no longer in the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

the game was solved a while ago but people insisted on hunting for bussers and deepwolves instead of lynching the scummy slots.

[RadiantCowbells]

DT/Dannflor
Xtoxm
DDL

[RadiantCowbells]

DDL is town.

doubt it

I don't understand what you mean here

We hit whoever in the lynchpool is most likely to be MP's buddy

[RadiantCowbells]

you should be reading all of those slots. they are interesting.

[RadiantCowbells]

at least we're generally agreeing on the scumpool

[RadiantCowbells]

for the record you've given no reads that have deviated at all from where i'm standing now

[RadiantCowbells]

except DDL must be with DT

[RadiantCowbells]

i guess DDL in general

[RadiantCowbells]

Tohru are you who I think that you are?

[RadiantCowbells]

right.

[RadiantCowbells]

clemency/maxwell is the slot that we would be lynching before endgame if we hadn't shitlynched buj or alisaeslot

[RadiantCowbells]

it's still not the worst lynch of the game by a long shot.

[RadiantCowbells]

the 3 lynches are DT, xtoxm, and DDL
gamma becomes Liger becomes Psyche who is spewed 99% town based on the replace out

clemency/maxwell gets the game if they're scum as a reward for town having shitlynched repeatedly.

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it's not a question of what's here it's a question of what's not here.

[RadiantCowbells]

he's my most confident scumread in the scumpool

but i am willing to lynch the other two first

[RadiantCowbells]

ok

i do think that xtox/ddl is more likely than any other pairing so

VOTE: xtoxm

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean he's the buddy

[RadiantCowbells]

and I'm not?

[RadiantCowbells]

and you don't BoP me or think that I'm a top-tier scum player?

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oh okay someone said it i don't have to pretend i don't know

[RadiantCowbells]

i'll gladly hammer either ddl/xtoxm slots btw

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: or

[RadiantCowbells]

1) unless 2 doused players get lynched you don't get another mislynch
2) lol

[RadiantCowbells]

That's L1 btw he didn't hammer

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm pretty sure he's just trying to wifom?

[RadiantCowbells]

lol

What did you think would happen, you'd just cry about me existing and everyone would be like welp lets lynch RC?

[RadiantCowbells]

wait are you scum or not

[RadiantCowbells]

that's really sad.

[RadiantCowbells]

what odds would you give that OR is just trolling us

[RadiantCowbells]

i still think or might be scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: xtoxm[/

This should have been the lynch yesterday btw

Also the fact that xtoxm hasn't been on any mislynches is the opposite of a towntell

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: xtoxm

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Btw this is why you lynch the people doing what xtoxm was doing earlier this game. It's super easy as scum to hide behind a personality conflict and get townread for it. Xtoxm had bad associatives with Grapes and did virtually nothing the entire game and you all townread him for his fight against the man. Disliking me isn't AI but refusing to play the game outside of calling me scum is, and he still did nothing after we wrapped up our spat.

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Also lol @ I townread Dann the most of the 3 when Ankamius is light years out of her scum range, even if he thinks that I'm scum.

Psyche why are you voting me?

[RadiantCowbells]

Also amazing

My pet scumread who no one agreed with me on was scum again.

[RadiantCowbells]

ank do you believe that town!xtoxm's top two scumreads here are you and me? how bad do you think that he is?

[RadiantCowbells]

it's correlated to who had scumreads that they believed in and tried to push them. as opposed to who was sitting to the side keeping their hands clean and setting up the later game mislynches (ie me)

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btw someone is going to come in and say "oh but he wouldn't go after you in lylo as scum that's an invitation to being mislynched"
no that's fucking awful reasoning. he's been setting up this lynch the entire game, then he called me blanket town for a while, then randomly 180ed back to it when there was likely only one mislynch to go if he can claim he wouldn't have stopped pushing on me as scum because pushing on me is more important than winning then he'd certainly go back in for this now that people are turning on me again. scum always do this shit and people always assume that they wouldn't and they get townread for it despite doing nothing. what has Xtoxm done to actually deserve a townread?

[RadiantCowbells]

ank skip to the point where you vote xtoxm.

[RadiantCowbells]

btw reading the game again I tried to lead on Xtoxm basically every day phase since day 1 and it got resisted and derailed every single time.

[RadiantCowbells]

ank you would do the game a favor if you stopped trying to make reads.

[RadiantCowbells]

it really is just maxwell/xtoxm by the way.

[RadiantCowbells]

i tried to lead on xtoxm both day 6 and day 4.

[RadiantCowbells]

Town, don't vote anyone until I've had the time to sit down and read the entirety of the game (at page 270 last I stopped). Will take at least 48 hours.

Don't listen to RC or Jingle either. They have 0 wolf pelts this game, and we all have good reason to believe that one, or incredibly, even both of them are scum.

Thanks.

fuck you you derailed xtoxm yesterday you don't get to talk.

[RadiantCowbells]

/shrug

i have been trying to kill xtoxm since d2 and town wouldn't let me.

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean i couldn't lynch fumuki despite him threatening to do what would constitute gamethrowing as town in 2070 so i had to content myself lynching his buddies.

ate works altogether too well in mafia.

[RadiantCowbells]

i mean there's a lot of similarities between xtoxm in this game and buki in that one
both essentially played against win condition because of a grudge with me, manipulated that grudge for towncred, and got townread for it to the point where i couldn't lynch them despite being desperate

[RadiantCowbells]

oh yeah alisae slot was probably doused.

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dann do you actually believe that xtoxm comes in here with me/ankamius scumteam
do you think that it's more likely that he's incompetent and basically gamethrowing a game that he hasn't read based off of a meaningless heuristic or that he's scum?

maxwell idk for sure that you're the partner. it seems like the obvious answer to me given that you two have been hard defending each other all game and keeping your hands clean.

but if you're not scum you really need to be voting xtoxm.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Jingle

[RadiantCowbells]

sry dann

[RadiantCowbells]

grapes was super 100% not going to reach endgame and if he's not making endgame there's no advantage to lynching him later rather than sooner.

Good job, RC and Ankamius. Be prepared, for the next 3 months of games that you play, people will point to this game and think about how strong you guys are as scum, and use it to lynch you. Should've gone easier on these guys.

i mean I burned meta for this game so that I wouldn't actually have to tryhard in a game that would be this long lol

[RadiantCowbells]

probably.

[RadiantCowbells]

if it makes you feel better scum didn't enjoy this game very much either.

[RadiantCowbells]

btw if i was town with the amount of people pushing me on D2 I would have pretty much did exactly what I did in terms of not really efforting anymore.
the only difference is I was intentionally baiting that so I could justify not efforting
the solution was actually to not push on me on D2 so that I don't have an excuse for not efforting

[RadiantCowbells]

as soon as people started scumreading me on D2 it made my path to endgame very easy. if I had been treated as locktown D2 and D3 and scum hadn't wanted to ignite me, things would have been a lot more dicey in terms of how I would have had to play. town lost its biggest chance of getting enough momentum to lynch me when scum objectively wouldn't have wanted to ignite me.

[RadiantCowbells]

that said the game was very scum sided and i don't think town had a lot of chance of winning it if any scum players played well.

I wish the Shoshin lynch had been successfully stopped before she replaced

Keeping her around might have helped

i really didn't want to have to deal with shoshin for 6 game days.

[RadiantCowbells]

but seriously massive shout out to ankamius. one of the best scum partners that I think that I've ever had.

[RadiantCowbells]

i think the biggest significance of this game was ankamius's standout scum performance

if single game scum award still existed i would want to nom her

[RadiantCowbells]

/in as hydra with shoshin

[RadiantCowbells]

creature was really impressive

idk how much cred i want to actually give to xtoxm's correct reads given that i feel like the heuristic he used was kind of a crapshoot but he did call double scum and that is worth calling out.

[RadiantCowbells]

i think he deserves a lot more credit for the me read than the anka read which i feel like he kind of arbitrarily drew out of hat and i doubt he would have pursued if i had correctly been lynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

doubt he would have pursued if i had correctly been lynched.

operative phrase.

[RadiantCowbells]

i also doubt that he would correctly read me an unusually significant number of times over, like, 20 games.

but it's not something I'm pursuing for obvious reasons.

[RadiantCowbells]

I love nightless. I'd prefer a smaller nightless game though. Black flag nightless?

[RadiantCowbells]

We would have lynched or killed you, 100%.

[RadiantCowbells]

yes

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey NSG did Awestfie ask for spoilers

[RadiantCowbells]

If he has good reads without cheating he wouldn't cheat though

[RadiantCowbells]

it's a pretty bad feeling when you lose as scum because someone cheated, yeah

glad i avoided that

[RadiantCowbells]

but umm. yeah. i don't think it would have won them the game. spoilers yes, two slots no.

[RadiantCowbells]

that said... in this situation i'm not sure if spoilers would have helped. i think we would have just mislynched him if he went after us as a single slot with spoilers.