Mini Normal 2080 ft. My Cats [Game Over]

[ofrhz]

VOTE COUNT 1.25

Shoshin (4):

u r a person 2, Flubbernugget, nomnomnom, Saladman27

teacher (3):

Nero Cain, NerfedBuJ, Shoshin

Vorkuta (1):

Dunnstral

Flubbernugget (1):

Vorkuta

Not Voting (4):

skitter30, Detective Pikachu, Cinnamon, teacher

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer.
Day 1 ends in

(expired on 2019-06-22 09:30:00)

Game Notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays

[u r a person 2]

shoshin, if I'm town and you're town, who do you think the scum team is?

[Detective Pikachu]

But if this is cop/miller then has normal queue really started stealing setups from EpicMafia?

[nomnomnom]

But if this is cop/miller then has normal queue really started stealing setups from EpicMafia?

It's a bullshit claim and you know it.

Everyone already knows this claim is bullshit yet they are too scared of committing because they don't want to risk looking like idiots in the rare case this flips cop.

But it never will. Have some confidence.

[u r a person 2]

If I were scum, I never claim cop here, especially not with an open miller claim.

which brings to mind, don't counter claim this right now please anybody

[Shoshin]

shoshin, if I'm town and you're town, who do you think the scum team is?

I'm trying to figure this out.

[nomnomnom]

I just have some trouble processing this.

Everyone begs me to vote ED because "there are no better choices".

Shoshin reps in, makes the scummiest-looking iso ever known to man, I vote there and everyone flakes after a bullshit cop claim.

It's like the universe is mocking me or something. For the second time.

[Cinnamon]

I don't like Shoshin's 'you're bad' argument but that's mostly personal I don't think that's more likely to come from scum than town. I think we need to start looking at other things right now.
For example, VOTE: Flubber I wouldn't mind this

[Shoshin]

I'm going to reiterate why you should townread me:

1. You know for a fact that I townread ED enough to replace the slot, & you know that my reads are trustworthy enough to sheep on this. I was trying to mitigate the risk of signing up for a new game & getting a scum slot, so I was pretty confident on this. More than 75%. Read my post analyzing ED for more on this.

2. I've been far more active & engaged than I ever would have as scum. I've read the whole game carefully (50 pages of stuff I wouldn't have read as scum). I'm trying to interact with players to get a sense of their alignment. This just isn't what it looks like when I'm scum. Is it possible for scum to be this active? Yes. Is it likely? No. Read me based on probability please.

3. There's been no resistance to my lynch. If I were scum, you can bet that there'd be some resistance. At least some. There's nothing. Scum want me lynched, as they usually do. It's unclear exactly how they're playing this out (sitting in the wings or on the wagon) but there's no doubt that scum weren't happy about me replacing a lurker slot.

[Saladman27]

I’m still voting sho but I agree, we shouldn’t hammer her yet. Also, sho, what do you mean no resistance? You called the game ridiculous because you were L-1.

[Cinnamon]

I think you definitely could be bussed here since there has been traction on your wagon but your first two points are valid enough for me to not want to lynch you today.

[Shoshin]

I don't like Shoshin's 'you're bad' argument but that's mostly personal I don't think that's more likely to come from scum than town. I think we need to start looking at other things right now.

I didn't make a "you're bad" argument? I've made an "I'm good" argument but that's about something else.

In terms of reads, anyone who scumreads me is objectively wrong. I know this, so I know that scumreading me is "bad." I understand that you don't know this, but that doesn't make me wrong or make claims of this nature "personal." It's just a fact.

[nomnomnom]

The problem is when you're in a game with bad players or players who don't have the correct level of confidence about their reads.

[Shoshin]

Also, sho, what do you mean no resistance?

If I were scum, I'd have partners to defend me. I'd have partners to help build a counter wagon. I'd have support. There's none of that in this game.

[Shoshin]

The problem is when you're in a game with bad players or players who don't have the correct level of confidence about their reads.

Salad called himself bad. That wasn't anything personal.

[Saladman27]

Bussing is a thing...

[nomnomnom]

hahahahahaha

this is a comedy sketch

[Saladman27]

Nom, who do you think is scum if hypothetically town!Sho is a thing?

[u r a person 2]

2. I've been far more active & engaged than I ever would have as scum. I've read the whole game carefully (50 pages of stuff I wouldn't have read as scum). I'm trying to interact with players to get a sense of their alignment. This just isn't what it looks like when I'm scum. Is it possible for scum to be this active? Yes. Is it likely? No. Read me based on probability please.

this stuff keeps bugging me. This isn't at all how you read to me in bop, and it isn't how you read to me in our early interactions in that newbie and I don't really think you meant to replace out of that newbie. Like, I think you've got to admit that effort!scum is within your range

And since when does shoshin get scared? cop role or not. This doesn't even seem like an alignment thing, I just wouldn't expect it from you generally

[Shoshin]

Bussing is a thing...

Bussing isn't just something scum do. It's something that's calculated. It's done with purpose in specific situations.

[Nero Cain]

in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

VOTE: shoshin

[nomnomnom]

Nom, who do you think is scum if hypothetically town!Sho is a thing?

Teacher.

We never get there though. She's scum. She isn't cop. This is a fakeclaim and this needs to get lynched today.

[skitter30]

I'll be around in like an hour

[Nero Cain]

now the question is who was I wrong about?

[skitter30]

in my limited exp. with Shosin she's a lurksack as town so the hyperactivity means this is prob scum.

VOTE: shoshin

This isnt really true; she siteflakes sometimes but this sort of posting is well within her townrange; idk if she can fake it as scum