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[Vorkuta]

I already know that if she flips scum, you must be scum with her. Voting her is a death wish from you. It will never happen. I don't expect it anyway.

and here I thought you cooled down and could be reasoned with

like ffs let me at least catch up and find out who's on the wagon so I can try and look for things
this was literally done in the time that I was offline so what the hell

[u r a person 2]

@shoshin were you scum reading nero for his early push onto cinn, or did you have him as town for a time?

I'll just take you at your word because I don't want to go look but if you were town reading him, then why is him pushing you now so much worse than that?

[Shoshin]

Yet you're still voting me. Where are you reevaluating? You seem to be talking to me with an agenda: prove Shoshin is scum. Where's the genuine attempts to sort me based on probability & facts?

It's exceptionally improbable that my play in this game comes from scum me. I said I'm capable of it but I'm not even sure about that.

I mean, even if i were scum, there would still be town who think you're scum so I don't really think this whole "whoever town reads me is town" stuff is a great way to keep your 99% rate

but the day is not going to end while we chat and you seem to answer my questions while you've got a wagon on you which is a nice change of pace =P

The whole "whoever town reads me is town" thing isn't how I'm sorting the game, it's how I'm sorting you specifically. We've had an extensive interaction that I haven't had with others. I expect more from you than others because of this. I don't apply general principles to anyone. I treat each player on their own terms, and in your case, I expect a change in your read.

You didn't answer my questions, by the way. Why are you dodging them? No answer for them, or intentionally withholding information from me for some pro-town purpose?

[Vorkuta]

Can someone post a VC or just who's on the shoshin wagon while I scroll back?

[Shoshin]

VOTE: nomnom

I'm just trying this on for size, let me know if it makes my butt look big

No, not today please. I'd like you to bracket Nom for today. Please join me on Nero or join Cinn on Flubb. We need to be working together if we're going to have any sort of meaningful counter wagon to myself.

[Detective Pikachu]

Pretty sure? it's still l-1

[nomnomnom]

I already know that if she flips scum, you must be scum with her. Voting her is a death wish from you. It will never happen. I don't expect it anyway.

and here I thought you cooled down and could be reasoned with

like ffs let me at least catch up and find out who's on the wagon so I can try and look for things
this was literally done in the time that I was offline so what the hell

I'm a psychic.

Well, not really, but I already know what's gonna happen.

Take your time reading this, but I already know what's going to happen

pedit: shoshin is l-2

[Nero Cain]

@Nero

You're ignoring the vast majority of evidence to push an entirely made-up story that I lurk more as town than scum. Would you do this as town?

It wasn't something I was ignoring b/c it's no something that I was aware of and thus it's impossible for me to ignore. But its not why I'm pushing you now so you can take your manipulative pressure point statement to the dead thread.

[u r a person 2]

You didn't answer my questions, by the way. Why are you dodging them? No answer for them, or intentionally withholding information from me for some pro-town purpose?

Uh I really didn't mean to dodge a question which one

[Detective Pikachu]

Pretty sure? it's still l-1

pedit: shoshin is l-2

let's not vote unless people are sure of the VC just fyi lol

[skitter30]

so i kinda skimmed but didn't read carefully

pretty sure everything nom is scumreading her for is a personality-thing, and not actually an alighnment thing

i don't think she posts like this as scum and i don't think she fake-claims cop as scum

she's almost for sure gated in some way tho

it also kinda makes sense that she was trying to hype me up to make me more likely to be nk'd if she's a cop, but tbf, i think she would do that as just vt as town too

i'm going to read through now but if anyone has something they want me to address like now requote it or whatever

[u r a person 2]

Pretty sure? it's still l-1

i think it's l-2

[Shoshin]

You didn't answer my questions, by the way. Why are you dodging them? No answer for them, or intentionally withholding information from me for some pro-town purpose?

Uh I really didn't mean to dodge a question which one

It's in the post you responded to.

[nomnomnom]

maybe i miscounted I'm drunk rn lol

[Nero Cain]

scum is sho, skitter and dp?

[skitter30]

Urap should i be townreading u yet?

I think I'm out of my past scum range, but I've got big plans for my next scumgame, so that range is about to widen significantly at some point =P

What if, and I'm just spit-balling here. What if you just link my alignment with shoshin. Like, we lynch shoshin and if she's green, you scum read me. When she flips town, though, I get universally town read

i mean ... do u still really want to do this?
i'm more confident on town!her than town!you rn

although tbf idk if scum!you says this knowing she'll flip green

[skitter30]

scum is sho, skitter and dp?

this is a god-awful read, no offense

[teacher]

@Vork but again, I'm fairly sure you never vote this.

I already know that if she flips scum, you must be scum with her. Voting her is a death wish from you. It will never happen. I don't expect it anyway.

So why, oh, why, isnt the solution to lynch vork?

Seriously, like if youre so strong on associatives, why not lynch it? At least that way you have covered the chance youre wrong and allowed the cop 1-night, or forced scum to kill the cop.

@Shos: I know your questions are still pending. I will answer them. Had to get my kids down, and now gotta sort through a bunch of crap. But I for one will not stand for the lack of modifier/2d role discussion. If youre scared enough to claim, you claim in full. The modifiers make a difference for how all slots play around your claim.

@URaP - why the jump to not counter? Isnt trading a PR for a scum always worth it?

5th PEDIT - I give up and will read after post.

[Vorkuta]

i'm going to read through now but if anyone has something they want me to address like now requote it or whatever

+1

[Saladman27]

Sho, why are you still adamant that showing us you lurked more as scum in earlier games is ai despite the fact you could have changed your scum meta?

[Detective Pikachu]

VOTE: nomnom

I'm just trying this on for size, let me know if it makes my butt look big

No, not today please. I'd like you to bracket Nom for today. Please join me on Nero or join Cinn on Flubb. We need to be working together if we're going to have any sort of meaningful counter wagon to myself.

yes but if I'm right about nom and you're wrong then I get extra pikachu points

I'm pretty sure nothing is actually happening with nom right now I just want to test my own psyche to see how easy it is to move my vote off her in my own mind. Sometimes I'm subconsciously reading people in a way that's different than my conscious thoughts. It's hard to explain

[Shoshin]

@shoshin were you scum reading nero for his early push onto cinn, or did you have him as town for a time?

I'll just take you at your word because I don't want to go look but if you were town reading him, then why is him pushing you now so much worse than that?

I skimmed his iso earlier & saw what looked like aggressive posts & efforting. I associate that with town Nero, so I just put him in a town pile without much further thought.

When I went through the game more closely, starting on page 1, I ended up having him as scum. I thought his posting was awkward in context, and it felt like he's much less engaged/aggressive than normal for him as town.

His recent push on me is the last straw. Please review how he decides to push me. He's ignoring key pieces of evidence to get me lynched.

[teacher]

@shoshin were you scum reading nero for his early push onto cinn, or did you have him as town for a time?

I'll just take you at your word because I don't want to go look but if you were town reading him, then why is him pushing you now so much worse than that?

She had towned him, but withdrew that around 1250ish (preclaim)

[nomnomnom]

pretty sure everything nom is scumreading her for is a personality-thing, and not actually an alighnment thing

Skitter, please listen to me.

Take a good look at her iso and tell me this isn't a scummy tone.

Tell me this doesn't sound like a completely fake claim.

It's just a fakeclaim. I am sure of this.

There is one thing that I am really good at, and it's sniffing really bad tones out of players. People will always betray themselves with tone in games with me. I can guarantee you this is not a legit cop claim.

[Shoshin]

Sho, why are you still adamant that showing us you lurked more as scum in earlier games is ai despite the fact you

could

have changed your scum meta?

Probability.

Every time you use the word "could," you're talking about possibility.

I'm talking about probability.