Scummies Nominations 2019

Celebrating the Best of Mafiascum
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Post Post #36 (isolation #0) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:36 am

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In post 35, the worst wrote:
In post 29, brassherald wrote:
In post 28, Alisae wrote:Oh wait
The award would get 0 nominations

Sorry, there are no fun people left to play mafia with.

Pedit: Best Replacement/White Knight is one of the new awards this year!
I'm just going to award it to the worst myself, then.

Here is your award, the worst.

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How do I nom brassherald's entire account for post of the year? :thinking:
Step 1: Multiquote all of brassherald's posts into this thread.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit
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Post Post #37 (isolation #1) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:36 am

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In post 25, brassherald wrote:Can I lobby once more for a most fun person to play with award?
Go do so in the Title thread. :P
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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:46 am

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Time to submit a bunch of noms. :)
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Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:57 am

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In post 39, schadd_ wrote:can we all agree not to talk about post of the year outside of this thread
nommed for post of the year. :P
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Post Post #50 (isolation #4) » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:14 pm

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Mine too? Is the form in the OP out of date? Should we wait to nom until the form is fixed?
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Post Post #75 (isolation #5) » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:37 am

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Can we all agree to nominate the ban thread for post of the year?
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Post Post #107 (isolation #6) » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:16 am

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In post 100, Alisae wrote:- invited all of the judges to judge himself aside from 1
But do I really count tho considering I missed the voting deadline? :shifty:

Unless I'm not the one, in which case Ali's being mean by saying I don't count.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #7) » Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:49 am

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Nomming ali and relly for community contrib, btw.

Feel like that's a category where we should aim for a shitton of noms :)
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Post Post #117 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:25 pm

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But I wanted to be a whtie knight. :sad:
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Post Post #120 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:37 am

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I'd like to semi jokingly nom viewtopic.php?p=10829790#p10829790 for post of the year. As it contains all of the other nominations for post of the year, and will continue to do so, it is clearly the best post.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #10) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:02 pm

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In post 122, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think it’s better to have too many noms than not enough.
+1

Although I disagree with doing something for the sake of getting an award.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #11) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:06 pm

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In post 122, Flavor Leaf wrote:The sheer fact you replaced into 28 games warrants a nom.
Actually, something like this would be a decent community contrib nom, imo. Finding replacements can be hard, and someone who did that much to help game integrity deserves the recognition.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #12) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:22 pm

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You think tw does his job? I thought he was mostly around to make friends and get kidnapped by those friends.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:25 pm

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Oh, also, speaking as someone who dropped the ball epicly on judging the scummies last year, I felt there was a lack of options when it came to Paperback Writer and Best 3p. The noms we had were good, but I feel like there definitely could have been more noms. So... Nom those things.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:35 pm

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I feel awkward weighing in here, but I will say that A. I see FB's point (and agree to the point. It's way cooler to replace in and defuse a tense situation than to replace in and immediately win the game for town) and B. I think I'd prefer not to win if that means there are more people replacing into games.

I do support changing it to a body of work though.
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Post Post #175 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:02 am

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In post 164, Varsoon wrote:If I run a game called 'Varsoon wins the Scummies'
/pre-in

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Post Post #178 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:25 am

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In post 176, Flavor Leaf wrote:isn’t that what we’re supposed to be sifting through and thinking about when it comes to us Nomming then?
Honestly? No. We shouldn't really worry too much about validity when nomming imo.

To the rest though, I 100% agree.

100000 Shit tier replace ins < 1 Stellar replace in sure.

3 Good replace ins > 1 Great Replace in.

I don't think anyone's arguing that we should have tw keep track of the number of times each player replaces in and just auto-award the scummy to whoever replaces into the most games. I definitely think that someone who consistently performs well as a replacement and replaces in 10 times should win over someone who dives wholeheartedly into a single game, even if their impact on that one game was bigger.

And yeah, arguing that body of work makes it all about quantity is pretty :thorface: as well. It's not like we just hand Don Corleone to whoever wins the most scumgames in a year.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #17) » Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:43 am

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In post 182, mastina wrote:"Pshaw! You judges are lazy. If *I* was a judge, then I'd
actually do all the work
also be lazy!"
FTFY :P
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Post Post #199 (isolation #18) » Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:58 pm

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In post 198, Almost50 wrote:Can we re-fight WW I? It'd be interesting to see how the world would be if the Central Powers won it instead.
Roughly spherical and consisting of the same matter and energy. :shifty:
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Post Post #204 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:12 am

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In post 146, Alisae wrote:Like, I'm kind of interested in reasons why ywall replace into games, because I really do not think the first thought is "I'm going to be the hero that saves this game and makes it enjoyable again."
1. It's easier for me to get into a large if there's a backlog of things to look into, so joining on a later day > joining from the start.
2. Frequently, games that I'm interested in are popular and I'm not the kind of guy who checks the signups threads regularly.
3. Playerlist is a key factor for whether I want to play in a game, and if I replace I know I don't have to worry (as much) about someone joining after me who I decide I don't want to have to deal with.
4. As a mod, I've had games where finding replacements is difficult, and that sucks. I can consistently be, at the least, a warm body that talks.
5. I tend to read games I'm not in because I don't have time to play as many games as I'd prefer to be able to. Frequently, this means I'm already caught up and provide minimal disturbance in the game tempo.
6. It's good for the site.
7. I rarely say no when asked to replace into a game.

Not all of these are equal and they're definitely not in order of how much they impact the decision, but that's pretty much all of my reasons.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #20) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:30 pm

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Pretty sure you guys are high and that game never happened. :shifty:
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Post Post #222 (isolation #21) » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 221, Firebringer wrote:that is a really good nomination though, even though i think the setup is really scum-sided it was really a scum stomp if you examined day play.
FWIW, I don't think it's that scumsided, just strong-presence-sided.

And, yeah, nth. Much as I'd like to say we'd have caught them given enough motivation, we wouldn't. And they had some pretty obvtown slots to contend with and get lynched too.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #22) » Fri May 17, 2019 3:38 pm

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Having not read the game in question it seems like all of his good play there was specifically non mechanical, other than the scum lover spec, so I'm not sure Master Strategist fits at all.

I'm also reluctant to reward fakeclaiming guilties as town, although perhaps that's less awful in context.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #23) » Sat May 18, 2019 10:04 am

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I would support changing Master Strategist to be both alignments or making a similar scum award. I'm not sure profii's would fit because it ended up backfiring and getting him lynched, compared to say xtox from the same game convincing town to give him a vigshot, successfully hiding it, and then negotiating his way out of a damning fakeclaim in order to prevent a town autowin by shooting, vigging, and roleblocking all at the same time to slip an incredibly tight noose setting Nero up for the win.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #24) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 257, Boonskiies wrote:He nominated himself for Kodak Moment...really?
Quick, FL, nom this for post of the year.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #25) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:32 pm

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Wow, actually a lot of tainted noms.

Antinom:

RAS Moment of brilliance and Kodak Moment BooneyToonz X
awestfie Hannibal Lecter BooneyToonz XI


Scumteam Goodfellas in BooneyToonz XI maybe? RAS was part of it in a hydra, but maybe we should just remove him from the nom and let the rest of the team stand on their own merit.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #26) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:43 pm

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In post 264, Alisae wrote:(But if someone in thread does fix it for you, I’ll update it)
Is this permission to make it worse?
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Post Post #269 (isolation #27) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:45 pm

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In post 266, Creature wrote:The scumteam nom is tainted considering one of the members knew everyone's role probably.
Just reading the description, it sounded like the only additional information was one of the 3rd parties. If the team deserves the nom, don't punish them for being associated with a bad apple.

That said, I'm just going by the description from page 1.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #28) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:10 am

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I think the best way to get over this is to spam this thread with scummy nominations. Go out there and do things worth being nommed for, dammit. We all know I'm too lazy to do it.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #29) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:17 am

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Nommed Boon for CC for the BooneyToonz games, the discussion page, and his efforts to add to the innovation of roles both in his games and in people who use his rules.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:21 pm

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In post 305, the worst wrote:If Enter copypasta doesn't win I'm rioting
If Enter copypasta wins I'm rioting.

In fact, let's just riot.
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Post Post #313 (isolation #31) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:34 pm

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Someone remind me to offer to judge and then forget to send in my ballot again. That was fun.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:42 pm

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nth, whenever someone gets around to actually adding that category.

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Post Post #330 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:27 pm

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nth insomnia nom. Despite barely being in that game, that was some damn impressive carrying.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #34) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:21 pm

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Or just a leading +
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Post Post #335 (isolation #35) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:22 pm

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So for example, my nth would be
rellyphant
+Jingle
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Post Post #372 (isolation #36) » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:50 pm

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In post 371, Alisae wrote:So yeah, GTKAS and Speakeasy is ok and in fact encouraged
Isn't this explicitly against site rules though?

Like, you'd be quoting from a protected portion of the site into a non protected portion of the site.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:00 pm

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In post 376, SleepyKrew wrote:Just double check with the people involved. That includes necessary or helpful context around the post.
It occurs to me that everyone with access to the Scummies account should have speezy access and the Scummies account has to edit the noms into the OP anyway, so we could probably do protected PotY noms via PM, if the SSC doesn't mind the extra work of validating that the person doesn't mind the post being made public.

I might try my hand at writing up an Ank Paragon nom if I have some spare time over the next week. Def agree that it's deserved, but I feel like I'd need to do some meta diving to justify it.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:04 pm

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Posts 2-6 exist, Ali. :P
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Post Post #385 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:10 pm

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TIL, ali has a really tall computer monitor.

Also, I still say that is the only viable contender for post of the year.
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Post Post #390 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:58 am

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White Knight
8/6/19 Jingle Jjh927 Vengeful Ghosts Mafia JJ doesn't like playing scum. He abhors it. But he replaced into scum in a spot that was frankly terrifying and managed to be fairly universally townread. He kept the game going, infiltrated a towncore very well and had the game well in hand until a vigshot from the dead thread killed him. Now, this sounds like the end of the story, but he then made the most fun of the game happen by manufacturing a slip and turning the game on it's head from the deadthread (players could continue communicating/voting on a vigshot after death) keeping the scum team afloat for a full two phases, nearly winning the game, and drawing even the most demoralized players into a round of nail biting that was easily the highlight of the game.


White Knight
8/6/19 Jingle OSTENTATIOUS Vengeful Ghosts Mafia OST replaced into what was mechanically the lynchpin of the setup, and managed to play two conflicting egos down to the point where town managed to win despite a crazy amount of infighting, no flips, a fake guilty on town in LYLO and a cunning scum gambit via solid play and selective claiming. Not only that, he made was was an otherwise frustrating game bearable for quite a few people and brought back a couple town powerhouses that were on the verge of replacing through sheer force of personality.


Kodak Moment
8/6/19 Jingle The entire dead thread. (jjh927, Dr Easy Bake, Chemist1422, Egix96, Binary Star, Dannflor, Flavor Leaf and OSTENTATIOUS) Vengeful Ghosts Mafia This game was flipless, with the gimmick of the dead thread being able to communicate with the living through one slot and also fully controlling a vig shot. When 2/3 of the scum were dead and the third appeared to be on the chopping block, scum gambited to try for a hail mary pass by 'slipping' a night kill submission for an absent partner (who wasn't a partner at all. Town piled on, correctly caught on and tried to re stabilize onto the original lynch, but scum managed to quickhammer a minute before the night deadline. This happened on page 29 of the dead thread. Almost 50 pages and several phases later, scum nearly took the win off of the back of this play, which absolutely revitalized the game, the player's interest, and remained the main topic of discussion for the rest of the game. And so far, the post game.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #41) » Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:57 pm

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In post 0, Scummies wrote:Community Contributor: This award is awarded to the player who did the most to contribute to the overall health of the site. Maybe this person arranged an in-person meetup to foster community, or maybe they really evolved mafia theory discussion to a new level with their MD articles. Perhaps it's a user who goes out of their way to put on fun contests or events for the site, or maybe someone worked on a cool mafia tool in their spare time. Whatever they did, if they worked to improve the site outside of the Mish Mash or Mafia forums, this is where they belong.
^ This would fit, imo.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:01 pm

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I'm going to claim that I'm going to nominate a bunch of people, forget about it, and miss the deadline. Like I do every year.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:15 pm

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In post 455, popsofctown wrote:
In post 452, Almost50 wrote:Can I nominate someone to be my representative so they can nominate people on my behalf for different categories?
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I don't feel like I have a good sense of who should get nommed for what things.
Real talk?

If you think it should maybe be borderline nommed, nom it. One of the biggest problems last year was that there weren't a lot of entries for awards, so there wasn't enough competition to judge.

If there's a better person for the award, likely the judges will see that when they do the judging.
gobbledygook wrote:Someone should nominate me for Paragon. :mrgreen:
This is probably the best way to not get nommed for Paragon.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:18 pm

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In post 434, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 433, Alisae wrote:tbh I don't actually know if thats GOTY or Best Setup
i mean i could be stupid but can you specify
Oh sorry, I guess it could be either?

It could be nommed for both right?
I would antinom Best Setup for Jest, FWIW. The game was fun, the players had a blast, and it did exactly what I wanted it to do (MAXIMUM JESTERY CARNAGE).

It's not a good setup.

If someone thinks it's GOTY worthy, :shrug: but while it's a fun meme game I think there are way better options for best setup.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #45) » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:33 am

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^I'm guessing post of the year?

I don't think it can be Kodak since it's not a mafia game.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #46) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:18 am

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Scum is just town with a nightkill, pops. :)
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Post Post #483 (isolation #47) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:52 am

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In post 481, popsofctown wrote:
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October 17,2019 popsofctown Lady Lambdadelta Anime uPick Heart of Shadow Lady Lambdadelta rolled "Role-janitor" a very weak role for a stacked role madness large theme. But she identified it to be at its strongest if a player were to soft or hard claim a role planning to rescind later, and went to use "every part of the buffalo", engaging in a gambit that would be riskier if she didn't also note her role had resilience to roleblocks.
She fakeclaimed masons with another player, identifying a townie that would be interested in a temporary relief from pressure, and the townie corroborated. Then she killed the corroborater (which did not in and of itself imply a desire to hide a lack of mason ability, since all players had multiple abilities) using the role-janitor. She was then "confirmed" town, which won her faction the game.
Nth. Both the concept that scum should be able to win best mechanical play and the nom itself.

Also, you people are terrible. Lynching Dann after he made such nice cat pictures show up in your VCs.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:47 pm

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Nah, he made it up
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Post Post #526 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:40 pm

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I could see it. Don't know enough games to do it myself, but from what I've seen chenscum is formidable.
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Post Post #537 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:34 pm

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In post 528, Oversoul wrote:Nom Volpe14 for Don Corleone. Not only did he fool the entire town into thinking an obvtown slot was somehow not obvtown but he even fooled the legendary scumhunting hydra of Celestial coordinates.

Will edit this post with more info at a later date
To explain Ali's post:

DC is a body of work encompassing multiple scumgames. Also, use the form.

If you want to nom based on a specific game, Goodfellas is more appropriate.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #51) » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:51 pm

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In post 552, Wooper wrote:
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4/11/2019 wooper Alisae (NEPOTISM) Micro 896: Furret’s Bizare Adventure The amount of effort Ali put into this game's flavour was totally awesome. The whole game was told with an overarching stories of (surprisingly) furret's bizarre adventures; flips were done via disconnected scenes starring Captain the Furret, a conditionally-bulletproof town IC. the scenes were cute and funny but most like also the role pm formatting was just spectacular. look at this beautiful role pm featuring wooper!
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Post Post #616 (isolation #52) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:04 pm

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In post 607, Alisae wrote:
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Post Post #672 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:18 am

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Yes. If someone deserves to be in consideration for both awards, put them in for consideration for both awards. The judges will determine if they're the most deserving in each category.
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Post Post #809 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:41 pm

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She's the reason town won Perfect Masquerade.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #55) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:05 am

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In post 887, gobbledygook wrote:Mastina think of the judges :cry:
Yes, please nom more judges to be ineligible from weighing in on categories. :shifty:
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Post Post #892 (isolation #56) » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:15 am

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In post 890, Pine wrote:The Goodfellas nomination, though, I accept graciously. If the judges would like access to our team Discord server, it still exists.
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