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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:04 pm

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can I have wgeurts be my champion?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:25 pm

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Is good a type?
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Post Post #23 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:28 pm

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gogurts is aware and on his way.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:28 pm

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In post 22, animorpherv1 wrote:We should each make sure we're using different types. That would be fun.
I had a birthday like that when I was ~10. It was actually super fun.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:29 pm

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the guy who got psychic won hard.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:44 pm

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how many viable formats are there?
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Post Post #37 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:47 pm

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I specified viable, ani.
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Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:48 pm

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Everyone plays 6 level 1 magikarps format is go!
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Post Post #62 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:29 am

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In post 59, RadiantCowbells wrote:If we play monotype I had the #1 ranking for some time in gen 6
Shit, maybe I picked the wrong champion.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:46 am

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In post 72, RadiantCowbells wrote:Wait are we doing only one person with each?

If so what is left
Only flying. Flying is the only option left.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:13 am

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Seems like it'd make more sense for serious and meme to just be separate tourneys, if you're making a distinction, as I doubt even the best meme team beats a serious team any respectable amount of the time.

With 17 people you have an awkward number for bracketing. I'd suggest random/callout/experience based R1 and tiebreaker based further round pairing. For example, you could Tiebreakers be -> MW -> # Pokemans KO'd -> # Pokemans Unused -> # Surviving Pokemans -> Remaining % of HPs and play until one player has an undisputed MW.

That way, in R1 you get people playing against whoever, but in round two say wogurts crushes RC's meme team with only one Pokeman, RC doesn't end up paired with the winner of the super close battle between the worst and pine where they bitterly fought for supremacy in a pitched back and forth battle. It should correct towards balanced matches more and more as the tourney goes on.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:14 am

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Also, you should switch into Magikarp here.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:20 am

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Not forcing a bracket also means you don't need to aim for specific numbers as well, people can keep playing until they no longer want to play, and you get more overall Pokemans going on.

I'm happy to lend my expertise building a pairing Al Gore Rhythm if you guys want.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:28 am

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I disagree? Like, I doubt it'll come up often (If at all) but if a person manages to wipe a team with 1 pokemon, presumably they've got a scary team.

Similarly, if a person never manages to KO a pokemon, they should be better matched against others who only KO'd 1 or 2, as opposed to the guy who had someone on their last HP on their last pokemon.

Most of the time, the breakers aren't going to change much and the event is decided solely by W/L, but it should hopefully mean more exciting/fair/fun games for everyone.

If there's better stats that are more representative I have no problem editing that, btw. I just guessed based on what I remember of pokemon.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:40 am

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Sample Results for fictitious R1. Round 2 would be HvF, AvC, BvD, EvG, based on the Pairing numbers.


R1 Opponent W/L KO'd Survived Pairing Numbers
A B 1 6 3 10603
B A 0 3 0 300
C D 1 6 1 10601
D C 0 5 0 500
E F 0 1 0 100
F E 1 6 5 10605
G H 0 0 0 0
H G 1 6 6 10606
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Post Post #167 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:04 am

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In post 141, RadiantCowbells wrote:Hard oppose that

Running suicide leads doesn't make your team worse and running the few pokemon that can 6-0 a team (who are generally rather win more and not strong picks) doesn't make your team better.
Actually, if you were playing competitively it would skew the other way (You'd want to play against weaker teams to get more wins, so you'd want weaker breakers unless you weren't going for top place.)

I'm big enough to admit I know very little about what would make decent breakers in competitive pokemans though.
animorpherv1 wrote:Just for the record, if we care about tiebreakers, my suggestion:

1st tiebreak: Total number of single-game wins.
2nd tiebreak: Number of the match wins vs. all tied players
3rd tiebreak: Single game vs. every tied opponent. Most games won wins.Start from the top again if necessary.
The point of having the other breakers system would have been tiered pairing. The point of this would be if play extended past single undefeated player/ties were possible AND undesirable.

I very much doubt you guys are going round robin. :P
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Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:05 am

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In post 176, PJ. wrote:This is a bad idea because what if I think a team is a meme but you think it's not a meme?
This is exactly as much a problem if you're bracketing people based on meme/nonmeme.

Also, wogurts has to win this, he's my champion.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 188, Aristophanes wrote:My teams are usually half meme half real...

Sorry I guess
Half meme, Half real, All Aristophanes ;)

Are you gonna use a tree pokemon to match your avvy?
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Post Post #201 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:24 pm

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Not ambitious enough. 144 or bust.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:07 pm

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Low seeds should pair off and play for fun since there's an even number of byes. :o
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Post Post #284 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:28 pm

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Something tells me I picked the wrong champion.
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