Mini Normal 2080 ft. My Cats [Game Over]

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Or maybe we should go on the slot you've allowed to let run the game and control everything you are doing in the open blatantly without any of you questioning it.

Just maybe.

i'm not voting there today, and i've siad that multiple times now

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sorry :/
not trying to be annoying
not going to vote someone i think is town tho

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don't like his push on shoshin rn
i don't really know how to read him
i could switch to urap rn i think too
not really vibing flubber rn

also i think i townread everyone off of the major wagons

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If that's really how you play as town... it's just going to be the revelation that you are someone that has a fairly chaotic and unstable mindset. But I just think you're scum from how you acted earlier. Self-preservation and self-serving on top of these things just make my intuition rise up. Also that cop claim. It just cannot be. I refuse to believe it. I'll accept being wrong about this because of how strong I feel about this.

just look at one of her towngames

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If that's really how you play as town... it's just going to be the revelation that you are someone that has a fairly chaotic and unstable mindset. But I just think you're scum from how you acted earlier. Self-preservation and self-serving on top of these things just make my intuition rise up. Also that cop claim. It just cannot be. I refuse to believe it. I'll accept being wrong about this because of how strong I feel about this.

just look at one of her towngames

Does she really play like this?

Either way we cannot let a spot like this take a leadership role. Impossible. We need a town leader that has a strong standing and can make good decisions and rational judgement, not someone that contributes to a chaotic collective mindset. This is going to lose town the game.

yes, she does, and i don't think scum!her can fake it
everything about her tone that you're pulling out is characteristic of her towngame

it's annoying af but she actually does have above average reads (not as good as she claims tho imo, i think she over-exagerates; she's def wrong sometimes)

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just look at one of her towngames

Why is her town game a good way to read her but my towngames are not a way to read me?

i don't really know what your towngames look like, i've never played with you before

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I think we have played once but FMPOV it feels odd that you are using meta to defend Sho but not even considering my meta here.

because i don't know ur meta nearly as well .... why is this odd exactly

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@nom well now you're aquanted with town!shoshin

i don't know what else to say, this isn't flipping scum, you'll see at some point when she flips that town!her can have a blatent agenda just like the one you're pointing out

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VOTE: urap

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skitter, I know you think I'm scum, but you're wrong and I'm not gonna fight with you over my alignment again like last game. That whole thing we did I think is part of how my reads got so far off track. table me for now and lynch flubber please

if flubber flips green i'll probably tunnel you

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Vanity wagons with less that 3 days on the clock are awful and you know it.

Consolidate.

ya i know
i'm expressing my dislike for the gamestate rn

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just want to emphasize this ^^^^

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anyways salad have u ever rolled scum onsite?

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No, not even the one post noodle game.

i don't mean this in an offensive way but i'm kinda getting the vibe that you may be trying to dumbtell a little bit

or like playing up the 'i'm new!' card as a reason to fly under the radar or not be scumread

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My reads feel rand / only slight above rand to me right now tbh

I'm feeling better about there being at most 1 scum in top 4 than that there's 2 in bottom 4

i think it's urap or salad

i'm not really feeling scum!flubber rn

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and please nobody hammer without a claim etc

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Im drunk

the whole drunk posting thing I THINK is nai but if it is AI it's scum-indicative

no it isn't

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Hell no we are not dropping a D1 lynch on salad

Goodness gracious can we please use our time more productively than that

VOTE: urap

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Not lynching today: sho, skitter, DP, nom, cinnamon

this is actually p good

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And your reads are quite good too, Skitter. I hope you don't think I'm taking away from anyone else's reads by saying mine are good. I sheep people I trust more often than you might think. I just wish people sheeped me more when I'm confident in the read.

i dont' think ur taking away from anyone else's reads by saying urs are good
i sometimes feel like you tend to remember the times you were correct and kinda forget the times you were wrong, or like de-emphasize them
sort of

and you come off kinda strong and i can understand why it would make it hard for some people to work with you

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What ever happened to BlackVoid? That guy had top tier reads as well, disappeared after that American Presidents game though.

idk
he's legit one of my fav players but he hasn't been around isnce then

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is there a reason we can't wagon urap or ... ?

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Skitter, how sure are you about town Pika? He seems utterly convinced that U2's town in ways that seem a bit unbelievable to me.

V confident

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I know what you're doing DP and shoshin if nero flips town you want go rob me of the credit.

Shoshin does it because of ego.
DP does it because I nailed the scumteam in page 12 and he doesn't want people to know my reads are good.

i don't like this post

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i'm kinda losing my townread on nom i guess

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teacher's defense of shoshin despite him having a scumread on her is just incomprehensible.

y tho

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buj's playing kinda off-puttingly-y but i think he's town anyways

is there really no way that we can wagon urap .....

i guess i'd switch to nero out of all the current options but i feel p strongly that urap isn't town at this point

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i guess i'd switch to nero out of all the current options but i feel p strongly that urap isn't town at this point

I don't disagree with you, but how do you square that with Pika's read? I'm hesitant to question strong townreads from people who seem to have done a lot of meta research.

He also spent most of that lylo (the one he did the meta research for) thinking urap's posting was scummy so (he was town)

I basically see little reason to trust his read over my own

I kinda feel like town!urap would try to engage me more here and try to convince me i'm wrong on him if i was

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What're your thoughts about my Nero analysis, Skitter?

If we can get Nero to town, then U2's the obvious lynch. I don't think it'll be possible to lynch U2 if Nero's an option. There's too much opposition.

i kinda skimmed it, i didn't have a chance to read it in depth
i don't' like the way he's approaching your slot/campaigning for your lynch, it feels kinda unnatural and like he sees a great oppurtunity for a mislynch and is pushing it

i dont' like how he pushed you for being a lurksack as town and since you aren't here you're prob scum, and how he didn't really re-evaluate when i pointed out this isn't true

i don't like how he's complaiginign i'm not using meta to read him while relying on it for you when i have ... zero experience with him while a fair amount of experience with you, so approaching your slots in the same way seems kinda unreasonable and silly

i don't like how he's basically pushing scumteams as you + people who are defending you

so basically yeah i can vote there today too

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idk rn
i'm not even sure they're partners

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I know what you're doing DP and shoshin if nero flips town you want go rob me of the credit.

Shoshin does it because of ego.
DP does it because I nailed the scumteam in page 12 and he doesn't want people to know my reads are good.

idk posts like these i don't much like

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I'd welcome criticism of my play, but this seems really out of place here.

i guess i don't know why you think my reaction was out-of-place

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Idk i feel like it came off stronger than usual

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Skitter, I'm not sure why you don't think that I would take a different tact this game. Last game was the exception, not the rule, when it comes to me town casing myself.

The number of scum reads on me is awful. There are 4 votes on me and more slots in the wings with scum reads? I do not think I am playing such a bad game as to be this scum read, and right now I think scum is trying to figure out if I'm a possible lynch. Make no mistake, I am a terrific mislynch for scum to get D1

A) i dont like most of my other voting options rn, i tjink the only othet semi-viable person i'd be interested in voting rn is nero
B) i'd feel really bad being wrong u but like .... i dont see town!you here at all
C) and you keep suggesting bad lynches for bad reasons, and i dont like your reads at all really

So like ... this is where i am rn

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I dont think i'm votinf flubber unless its like right before deadline

Although now that i thikk about it i wont be here at deadline anyways

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Are you not voting flubber because I'm voting there? Like how are you looking at his iso and saying, "yep, that's town" and then looking at my play and being "nope, not town urap"

it is bewildering to me that this is a thing skitter

No, i'm not voting there because i dont think he's scum, and incidentally the things you're pushing him for are god-awful

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Like, I think highly enough of myself to believe that I'm within my scum range, but I fucking know I'm in my town range so town needs to smack themselves upside the head and reevaluate

Flub is trying to discredit my scum read on him, but he's scummy af. Look at his handling of shoshin's wagon from before the replacement til his unvote. regardless of shoshin's alignment, it is not a town mindset. Pre shoshin he's all about what other people's reads are on the slot, and never makes a read of his own. post replacement it's based on the mod not modkilling shoshin? He didn't want to have to address shoshin's play

Like i disgrwe with just about everything you've said here, i think it's an ugly combo of shade/misrep/presenting things in a negative light

[skitter30]

And the wagon comp on flubbef is not great either

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Like in a couple of hour, i'm still nominally at work

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But basically his reluctance to lynching shoshin rn is because:
A) of the cop claim
B) how people reacted to the cop claim

So saying that he's read/interactions with shoshin are based on the fact that she didnt get modkilled is like wtf levels of cherry-picking and trying to make him look bad imo

And saying that he's deliberately trying to avoid reading her on play is also ridiculous given he's p obviously having trouble keeping up and is skipping things because the thread size doubled in like two days and he was already falling behind before then

Pedit yeah i'll be back a little later

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VOTE: nero

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Urap i dont think anything you brought out in flubber's play on the previous page is scummy

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Like even the psuedo-cop thing i dont think comes from scum

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I'm not even sure if scum is busing flubber hard right now tho mate. I'm living in a world where there is likely (possibly? not sure where i'd put the exact percent) 0-1 scum on flubber

Like why do u think this? I think there's at least one, if not more, on him rn

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Well i dont like thr other options so ....

I'm also baffled by the townreads on salad

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I'm kinda getting the vibe that he may be relying on the newbie card to skate by

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Urap i dont think anything you brought out in flubber's play on the previous page is scummy

Like even the psuedo-cop thing i dont think comes from scum

Can you help me understand why its more likely to come from town than scum?

.... cuz scun doesnt fake-claim cop that way because they're exasperated and then immediately retract it (esp after someone actually bought it!)

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My point is that i scumread like half the wagon

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Like on some level i'm confused that we seem to be playing like two different games ...

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.... cuz scun doesnt fake-claim cop that way because they're exasperated and then immediately retract it (esp after someone actually bought it!)

oh I thought you were calling the mod would have punished shoshin thing a psuedo-cop check. Why isn't that vote scummy?

I don't see why that's out of an average scum range. like at all. Especially the part in parentheses. like of course scum would retract it there if they weren't planning on actually making the claim

the only question is if scum would make the joke and like, why not?

Idk i dont really have a strong opinion on flub's shoshin vote

For flubber's cop thing - it came from exasperation at being wagoned and how shoshin was being wagoned - i dont think scum get annoyed that a cop claim is getting wagoned really to the point that they lolvlaim cop to express their frustration

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Okay now I'm thinking skitter could be scum. But it relies on me being wrong on teacher because the sheeping her reads he did like at least 3 times never comes from a scum partner I think.

Just seems like she's been doing more complaining about gamestates, confusing reads, weird posts, and wagons than the normal level I would expect from town!skitter.

Cuz thr gamestate is crap and i'm getting frustrated because i havent wanted likr any of the major wagons over the past couple of days

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Idk i dont really have a strong opinion on flub's shoshin vote

For flubber's cop thing - it came from exasperation at being wagoned and how shoshin was being wagoned - i dont think scum get annoyed that a cop claim is getting wagoned really to the point that they lolvlaim cop to express their frustration

none of this makes sense. it doesn't make sense that you don't have an opinion of that vote. it doesn't make sense that you buy his exasperation over the wagon after being on the wagon as he was. How are you reading the game this way I don't understand

I can see town!him and scum!him making that post. I dont know which is more likely

I dont get ehy i wouldnt buy his exasperation over the shoshin wagon. I dont know offhand what wagon he was on at the time he made that post

And like i said i dont understand like anything you're saying this gamr

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i guess i'd switch to nero out of all the current options but i feel p strongly that urap isn't town at this point

you feel strongly that urap is scum but you are voting me instead of urap?

Because i recognize that there may be some universe where i'm tunneled on him

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How did she even win a best scum scummie?

Nero's immediate go-to for any pressure on him is toxic AtE. I've seen way more toxic AtE from scum lately than from town.

Yeah i didnt really feel the need to respond to that

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I'll be back again later

Pedit yep

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VOTE: skitter

she's calling urap scum and im on p91 and there's a 4 votes on urap so she votes a smaller wagon that se's not as cofident on? WTF is this?!?

This will be fun

A) you realize this doesnt have a chance in hell of going anywhere today
B) me and urap make .... no sense together, voting him after me because its more likely to go thru and we're partners is ridiculous
C) i'm starting to think his flubber scumread is real (but really wrong) - i dont think he confidently tells me i can scumread him tomorrow on a flubber greenflip knowing that he'll flip green while pushing him this hard

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Why does a town skitter, that's scum reading urap not join the growing urap wagon?

I started the growing urap wagon and made it a thing ffs

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The nero wagon is also like entirely peopke i townread

I think i'm staying here now

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I think I'm getting lynched here LOL

already gave my reads so

Well i guess it finally clicked for me so

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I'm noy sure it will

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I think I'm getting lynched here LOL

already gave my reads so

Well i guess it finally clicked for me so

@urap this means that at some point in the last five minutes or so you went north of the null line, and no i don't know think i can articulate why exactly

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Huh, i might know who u are now
Actually i'm p sure i do

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flubber, sho, skitter I bet.

Again, awful

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i have like an hour and hten i won't be around till deadline, just saying

not planning on switching to flubber either

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i mean i guess i would too but i'm not going to be aroudn then to gauge the wagons/gamestate so

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not great

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If she flips cop, I will literally self-vote out of the game tomorrow.

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What if, and I'm just spit-balling here. What if you just link my alignment with shoshin. Like, we lynch shoshin and if she's green, you scum read me. When she flips town, though, I get universally town read

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She didn't flip cop, as I predicted.

She still ate the nightkill, so yeah.

I said the claim might not vve real, but it didnt make her scum regardless, about 12 different times so

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Are you going to self-vote

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Urap quoted that and but i cant find it, that goes for him too

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I mean i just lost all the towncred i was giving you for bravado so

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Can we stop pushing awful lynches now
VOTE: nero

I'm *incredibly* suspicious of like everyone pushing shoshin and everyone pushing flubber yesterday, and the overlap between the two was quite large

So like rn: nom, urap, and nero

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Bbl

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I mean you ignord me pointing out that a fake-cop claim didnt make her scum about a bajillion times so

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I really dont think he is

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How skitter opened today is just simply awful by the way

I wasnt actually yrying to get you to self-vote, and you shouldnt

I wanted to see if your bravafo was real yesterday and if you would be accountable for that

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VOTE: Skitter

I'm leaving this here but I need time to think.

Oh *do* tell

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I kinda wish shoshin wasn't so stupidly OMGUSY.

Her play completely compromised town. It's depressing.

She was obvown, you were pushing her for dumb reasons, which i pointed out

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She can be.

But I feel scum. The way she approached this day 1 was almost prophetic as opposed to "bad town".

No i'm just good at this game and can point out shitty mislynches as they happen

And then i get annoyed when nobody listens to me and i'm annoyed the next day too

And i can show u *numerous* examples of this

Don't blame me for being right

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Skitter, tell me what you're doing exactly right now.

There's something extremely outlandish about how you approached yesterday and I'm starting to think you did this on purpose to fuck town over.

Pushing the cw to the lynch yesterday that was pushrd yestefdat on someone that was obviously going to flip town

Trying to get you to be accountable for bad pushes on other people that were going to push town

Explain exactly where i was being outlandish and how i was trying to fuck town over, i'm sure this will be good

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I'm *incredibly* suspicious of like everyone pushing shoshin and everyone pushing flubber yesterday, and the overlap between the two was quite large

you've pushed me for two days straight now. Do you think people should be suspicious of you when I flip town?

You pushed two people who flipped town. Do yoh think people should be suspicious of you after flipping yown?

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*after pushing town

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Skitter, tell me what you're doing exactly right now.

There's something extremely outlandish about how you approached yesterday and I'm starting to think you did this on purpose to fuck town over.

Like really, explain how stopping a mislnch on obvtown and then trying to stop the bad mislynch is trying to fuck town over, i mean really

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No i'm just good at this game

my pm says you aren't though. Well if you are town. if you are scum then it's just decently good play to tunnel town.

I mean apparently you arent either id you're town given yesterday so

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Skitter, tell me what you're doing exactly right now.

There's something extremely outlandish about how you approached yesterday and I'm starting to think you did this on purpose to fuck town over.

Pushing the cw to the lynch yesterday that was pushrd yestefdat on someone that was obviously going to flip town

Trying to get you to be accountable for bad pushes on other people that were going to push town

Explain exactly where i was being outlandish and how i was trying to fuck town over, i'm sure this will be good

Shoshin was in no way obvtown.

Are we playing the same game???? hello????

I explained how like a billion times yesterday, dont be revisionist

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@skitter you know, I just think this is what's happening:

either you're scum

either the scums are just parroting what you're saying because it's convenient, and that's what I need to analyze right now

in both cases it's really bad and you REALLY should be reconsidering your position on a few things. This is just straight up bad.

Explain where scum are parroting what i'm saying - if what i said is correct why us this a bad thing?

Why should i reconsider my position on anything ... if i've been proven right multple times over

I nominally have work so later

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Skitter, what do you think of Buj?

Probably town, if so his reads arent great

@vork i'll try but again diff timezones/work

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The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

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I'll just be rereading your interactions with people and the way people react to you. Remember when I said you were a good tool to analyze things about how scums are afraid of you when you roll town? If you are town, what you said influenced what scums did day 1. I am 100% sure of that statement. This is how we solve this game.

So yeah, reconsider your position and understand my POV here.

Explain why nero is town, otherwise you're hust repeating something that means nothing to me

I'm sure i influenced the game, sure. I fundementally disagree that i'm providing space for scum to hide or to push shitty mislynches

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The part where everyone stops voting shoshin to push votes on Flubb, Nero and URAP. We ended with Flubb/Nero as lynchpool and I am like 80% sure Nero is town here, so as I said day 1, what you said and what you advocated for not only made us have a town lynchpool, but also allows scums to come up with a really good night. This is just bad for town.

Explain why nero is town here ... the fact that there was a 2person lynchpool but it ended up on someone who flipped town makes me think the other person has p high scum equity, esp when they tried/did lynch both peopke who flipped town

Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

The nightkill.

I dont get it

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Like if nero is town explain to me what i'm not seeing

prob b/c you are blind.

Also that "Nero has to be scum b/c Flubb wagon" is a false dichotomy

I mean i dont know that there has to be scum in that pairing, surw, but i do know you repeatedly tried/did try to lynch town so

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Remind what your read was on flubber yesterdat?

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Fine, but i want it to be known for the record that i'm incredibly suspicous of both nom and nc and of how they're defending each other

VOTE: urap

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Nom I'd be careful after you saw the shoshin flip. You were this confident about shoshin too.

I was also right about Shoshin.
I knew she wasn't cop, and she flipped VT.

I just think Skitter is the lynchpin to the scumteam this game.

Again, that's baseless

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And you ignord me pointing out that if the claim was fake it wasnt ai

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If i'm going to drop nero for now can you drop dp ... i'd literally bet the game on town!him rn

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Skitter has voted vork, me, dean (b4 shoshin), flubber, and me. that's 3 confirmed town. And I think Vork is p likely to be town. her saving grace is some teacher votes she retracted but her reads seem god awful.

Oh come on

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Salad has p high scum equity imo

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Buj why is nero town again ...

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I mean if u thought shoshin was actually a cop (who was scumreading), then no, i probably wouldnt have been

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Buj why is nero town again ...

I don't have a better answer than last time.

Game doesn't make a lot of sense with him being scum.
His pushes have been rediculous if he's scum. Like very pro-town and very anti-Nero.

So i guess the tricky part is that i think the game makes a lot of sense if he's scum here

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You tried to get/did get townies lynched

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Uh, no, i tried to stop both those lynches from happening, thank you

Using yourself as proof for me pushing town is obviously kinda silly grom the pov of anyone that isnt you

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like there is no way I'm going to believe that you think town should just let themselves get mislynched and not vote the opposing wagon.

You were pushing it well before it became the opposing wagon

At the very least if you're town here your reads have been proven awful

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I mean i was going to call this out earliet but obviously voting town is mot the same thing as trying to lynch people and it's at best ridiculous to seriously argue that, and at worse is arguing in bad faith

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the entire purpose of a vote is to try to lynch who you think is scum. What's the point in flinging around a vote if you aren't trying to lynch them?

... you are aware that people can vote other people without trying to lynch them, right?

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I mean, there are going to more town than scum in any given game and unless someone has amazing reads you're going to hit town most of the time. Saying that I'm scummy b/c I though a fakeclaimer was scum and wanted to lynch someone else over myself is just shallow and hypocritical.

I mean you also ignored me pointing out that fake-claiming wasnt ai for her so, yeah, i think your push was awful

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UNVOTE:

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Oh i think urap is prob scum too - i unvoted so the day doesnt end too fast

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Like, its a fairly good argument b/c it's not really one I can deny b/c its true that I misread shoshin but it's very very shallow and catch all b/c you could argue that has a misread is scum and lol. Like I could see you using that same argument to just chain lynch. I don't really buy that it comes from 2017 town. I'm just minorly trusting Buj here that you are town and not scum.

Ok

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I mean, there are going to more town than scum in any given game and unless someone has amazing reads you're going to hit town most of the time. Saying that I'm scummy b/c I though a fakeclaimer was scum and wanted to lynch someone else over myself is just shallow and hypocritical.

I mean you also ignored me pointing out that fake-claiming wasnt ai for her so, yeah, i think your push was awful

So she doesn't fakeclaim as scum? What does she claim as goon? At the same time, you are ignoring ppl that don't really want to lynch me. So I mean if I'm scummy for ignoring you aren't you scummy for ignoring them?

I have no idea what she claims as scum, the point is that town!her could fake-claim like that so scumreading her for it is bad

It was scummy because i told you that and you did it anyways - your meta was p bad and it's p obvious i can read her better than you

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is anyone here townreading salad at this time?

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VOTE: saladman

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Also that's l-1 om urap

Please nobofy randomly lolhammer; i'd feel better if someone unvoted

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No it isn’t, Dunn already unvoted...

Sorry, fair, my mistakr

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First Normal game, lynched D2.

I see this as an absolute win!

I mean you have 2 votes on you, this is a bit of an over-reaction, dont you think?

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VOTE: Saladman

I wanna see where this goes.

Why can't we just have an easy dayphase for once

Still strongly support urap, just dont want the day to end too fast

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I'm beginning to think the wagons yesterday were TvT; my reasons for scumreading Nero were pretty meh as well. I'd be looking at Dunn, salad, or urap for a lynch today.

Oh yeah, and this post is pretty bad. It also seems like you're just sheeping other recent opinions here?

Yep

Also happy birthday!

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Does it worry you at all that i'm pushing salad or ...

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Does it worry you at all that i'm pushing salad or ...

If it made me worried I would have said so.

If it made me worried I wouldn't have voted there lol

I mean it's slightly weird to be complaining that my pushes are either coming from scum or giving scum places to hide/push and then ... follow my push

I dont get it

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I dont understand the difference between this push and the prior ones

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So like this doesnt make sense to be as a consistent pov really

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No, not really?
Like you're treating my pushes yesterday differently than you're treating this one, and i dont see why or how this should be

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I mean you're basically saying that if my reads don't match yours ny pushes are either coming from scum or giving scum a place to hide

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And that i should be pushed for both of those eventualities

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That's the conclusion i've come to based off of what you were saying yestefsay and what you're daying now

How am i viewing this wrong if i'm analyzing the game from a bad perspective?

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I dont get it

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skitter

why do you spend so much time engaging with obv!scum
like...
don't make me call this scum theater

Because i'm apparently incapable of letting things go

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@urap i dislike many of your reads and i'm probably voting you soonish

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Idk but his read on you is awful

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I thought the dp read was worse actually

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Would you lynch him over salad?

Me? Yeah

I mostly didnt want the day to end before he had a chance to post so i unvoted, and i felt like salad was a good place to vote in the interim

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urap is just clearly not following this game very well, these reads make that apparent.

This is scum-indicative for him i'm p sure

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I think anyone who today undertakes a meta dive on me will see clearly that lurking out is not my normal scum game or my normal town game, but certainly not my scum game

There seems to be consensus that my reads are terrible. That could be. I don't have time to dig into it again tho

No offense but ur reads arent just bad in like this gamestate specifically - i think they're just ... objectively bad

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and townlean on Cinnamon.

Why?

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I'm not sold on the idea that's going around of bad reads from urap --> scum urap

I mean, this isnt exactly an accurate representation of the reasons he's scum here, that's more like the cherry on top

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The one aside I have on both URaP wagons I have noticed is that both times it felt like Skitter pushed and derailed, though I played a role in that both times as well)

I tend to get antsy when i feel like wagons are building fast

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Buj remind me how ur reading cinn?

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I dont townread him

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Nom, how are you reading cinn and dunn?

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I have no idea how to play this role so I'll say this: part of my role is that I am a miller.

flippynips

So is this true or ...

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I'm actually ascetic.

Is this real?

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Can you simply tell me why urap isnt an ass but is just a townie with real feels

Because town!urap doesnt consistently have awful reads and has more wim to gamesolve

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Like is nomnom scummy or ?

Yes

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no thanks fam

I'll policy wagon you if you dont

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Obvious Question:

Why wasnt nero wagoned today?

I mean i tried ....

I'd be very happy to start that again

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Are you a miller y/n?

That's all you need to answer

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Because your slot claimed it in all seriousness at the start of the game and that's just about the only reason anyone has to townread you

And your pred knows that so if they just spent the whole game usingthat to get townread on false pretenses that is ... actually p gross and scummy

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If you're not a miller then this slot needs to get lynched btw

Before endgame, probably

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HURT: pk

This game has too many scummy people

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Nom is still scummy imo

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I think there's at least one scum on my current wagon + Skitter for what just happened

Uh huh

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A) i didnt vote him
B) i didnt suddenly say you were scummy, i've been saying thay since daystart, remember? This just reaffirmed it

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You keep pushing awful wagons for awful reasons and dont seem to gave learned anything after the shoshin fiasco yesterfay

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I know you didn't vote him, yet you had the same mindset as me, yet you find I am scummy for it? I don't get it.

I'm inherently objecting to the (possible?) Fake-claim, i'm objecting to the fact that if its fake cinn coasted on it to get town-cred for over a dayphase knowing that it was faje

Fake-claiming is not inherently ai (even if its awful), even thlough you keep pushing it like it is

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I'm *not* inherently objecting to the fake-claim

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I have already said that the only way a player like Cinn would come up with a miller fakeclaim is if it was given by a scumpartner.

If u said that i missed it

@pk it was a ebwop

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So maybe that's why i didnt see that then

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VOTE: urap

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Are you seriously complaining that you dislike my reaction ... to a post you didnt write?

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No, you were complaining that i didnt understand your mindset, which you felt was similar to mine yesterday ...
Without actually posting the part where you explain your mindset

I'm not a mindreader, so given that the post you thought existed actually doesnt, how am i being scummy in this context exactly

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VOTE: nero

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an icky defense of urap

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i was, but your defense of him and his wagon is p gross too

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no, your defense is

the wagon is fine

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but it's scummy when I do. More hypocrisy from that slot.

it feels like you're trying to find reasons to the urap wagon

also are you saying u think i'm scum?

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*reasons to defend the urap wagon, sorry

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Ummm, didn't you say that you thought he always had bad reads?

no, i didn't

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how r u reading me rn?

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this reason is almost as junk as Skitters "you wanted to lynch town u r scum!" but I agree with you that she's scum.

so what does this mean ...?

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are you not reading his posts? that's the part i'm confused about ... he said p strongly in the post that you're citing that he's townreading me

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~null town

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i'm p that was him saying that urap is looking for 2 scum on wagon, and one off wagon, and that i'm the scum urap is looking for offwagon

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b/c i'm not as confident on it as i'd like

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i don't know
trying to put it into words ...
his read feel kinda ... political almost? like pandering-y
like i don't strongly feel that he like *believes* what he's saying, if that makes sense

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Skitters got me pretty down. Like I believe what Im saying about my towns, but I still dont have strong scum inclinations (kudos, btw, to the scums).

Nero, w/r/t Skitter, there I was talking about URAPS reads. My own are that skitter is 100% town.

idk
that didn't explain exactly why i'm nulltown
like i don't have words to completely explain why but i will try to figure it out so i can explain it better

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cuz urap's reads were p bad

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huh

that's maybe the towniest thing you've said in a while for me

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day3 isn't lylo for a mini unless it's some crazy 9:4 setup

and again, the fact that cinn used the miller thing to gain towncred, it would be p gross if the slot kept a fake-claim up that long

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You won't catch her as scum by her being bad. You catch her by her being too good and subtly pushing weird things

My general take on skitter is she is a stronger scum scumhunter than as town


Its actually what Im watching you for rn.

It's p easy to be right when u know all the answers

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Ok teacher can be town now

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Ok teacher can be town now

How would a scum U r a person 2 lynch affect your opinion?

He's be scummier for defending him

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pisskop can i interest you in voting nero with me?

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i wouldn't put dp in that list

and salad should be lower

and cinn's slot should be in it too

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no

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i wouldn't put dp in that list

Their play day 2 is atrocious

it's not as good as day1, sure, but i don't think they're scum

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huh

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@dp maybe it's time for you to revisit ur urap read

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Did this game just have a mini stroke altogether

or am i in a simulation and the last page or so was generated with bad flags

why is your view of the gamestate so different than everyone else's ... ?

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Hey Nom, what do you think of my analysis of Nero?

Can you help me understand what makes Nero town?

I don't think much of it, because Nero is not actually a townread of mine. He's a nullread even though this has been fairly similar to how he played as town in the large normal I played with him.

He's fairly belligerent when challenged and will not hesitate to 1v1 people for the sake of going 1v1 against people, which he had done with my mason partner last game. That's why I find the scumread on him for doing this thing here by whoever said that (I think it was flubb?) completely asinine.

I just think NC is a bad day 1 lynch period.

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soooooo when does nero get revisited exactly?

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i'm scumleaning her rn

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i don't think both of nero and nom are scum

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i'm viewing it the other way around

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idk

i just think that nom has more convictions in her reads than nero; i feel like nero's are for convenience

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idk i think the ate could be real ... she def does an ate-y thing as town, she feels more ~calculated~ as scum to m

i don't think they're both town

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I don't even know what's going on in your heads to be frank.

"omg someone defends a player I scumread! MUST BE SCUM!"

Is that actually what you're going for? Because holy fuck

this isn't an accurate representation of what i said

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i dont think nom is scum rn